rvp20182:
All these based on cooked GDP figures from Nigeria stats office. Middle class is living in house that has basics - electricity, water, sewage, broad band, with a car or two, fridge or such household goods, with kids going to good schools, with maybe holiday or two, with bank account, shopping in supermarket and malls, probably owning the house they live in, earning at least some decent salary (maybe 500usd at minum)..living in decent secure neighberhood...that is MIDDLE CLASS. Nigeria cooked stats is NOT middle class. Nigeria on electricity metric alone means there is no middle class in Nigeria...you have what 10 hours at best electricity...your fridge is probably dead if any....you mostly shop in corner shop...you kids go in some worse schools..insecurity everywhere...Nigeria is warzone...it cannot boost of any middle class. If it did....consumer goods companies would be rushing there...

South Africa has Africa biggest Middle class (Not Nigeria - unless you trust cooked figures). Kenya has decent middle class.

What middle class is there in Nigeria...when it's formal mall space is so tiny? Where do Nigeria middle class shop ? Kenya is second only to South Africa in formal retail (malls & stores) where middle class shop- who are so far ahead of everyone?What middle class is there in Nigeria ...when private spending data from super-markets shows they got no money to spend...unless Oil goes back to 100 dollars.

Nairobi has the highest available retail space in malls across sub-Saharan Africa in a development that has kept rent in the high-end shopping centres stagnant over the past two years, a survey shows.

Knight Frank Africa in a report highlighting real estate trends in the continent says Nairobi retail space in malls stood at nearly 500,000 square metres, far ahead of other top cities like Kampala (170,000 sqm), Lagos (150,000 sqm), Addis Ababa (60,000 sqm), Dakar (170,000 sqm) and Kinshasa (170,000 sqm).
South Africa has about 23 million square metres of shopping centre floor space, compared with three million square metres in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa.

“Outside of South Africa, the Kenyan capital Nairobi has the greatest volume of modern retail floor space in sub-Saharan Africa, and it continues to be a development hotspot,” said the survey.[i][/i]

rvp20182:
Middle class is not just some figures.If you don't have electricity - you're not middle class. Leave alone shopping mall. You see you can cook data - but you cannot cook manifestation of poverty or middle class. So Nigeria can claim to have 20% people earning 20 dollars per day - but where are those people living, shopping, school, vacationing - where is the middle class family of 2-3 happy kids ?.

South Africa is middle class - and you can see it with you naked eyes. You don't need cook stats or charts.

rvp20182:
And Dangote is north-man that nobody wants to say.

theenchanter:
oga, take it easy.... u guys are the ones measuring dick with Nigeria, the guy's not interested in the bullshit, he's just posting his pics.

kikuyu1:


Pls tell me any Dangotelander; HOW THE HELL ZIMBABWE IS ACTUALLY ABOVE YOU ON THIS LIST??! By the blood of black Jesus in the name of Amadioha htf is that even possible??
But you continually manage to miss the obvious. Anyway Kenyans and other intelligent people will draw logical conclusions

NairobiWalker:


Yes, there is a steady supply of electricity in Garissa villages. I like the fact that you guys have to go to the remotest villages of Kenya to make a favorable comparison with yourselves.....lol.

NairobiWalker:


Yes, I know igbos are hardworking and smart. That's why only igbos know the truth - that Kenya is way better than Nigeria in everything just like the Igbo who opened this thread. The rest of you who are arguing against it here are the idiots of Nigeria.

NairobiWalker:


They might be the smartest in Nigeria but they definitely won't fit in the civilized society of East Africa.

nwoke37:


On this, your logic baffles me... I wonder how war-zone Nigeria produced the richest black man in the world

In Colombia malls are more common than in Argentina but the latter is richer and more developed. The UK has more malls than France or Germany but they are similarly developed... go figure

I don't understand how a person with middle class income is not classified as middle class just because his government(because of corruption) has refused to provide constant electricity for its citizens...
Moreover this middle class person because of his income can afford to buy generators to provide for the deficiency.

It's just like saying a rich man isn't rich because his government doesn't provide 24/7 electricity...

rvp20182:
Kenya is massively investing in infrastructure that will only make it second best to South Africa's world class infrastructure pretty soon. There is ongoing tarmacking of upto 30,000kms of low seal tarmac
Dongo Kundu by-pass Mombasa

Nowenuse:


I told you to show me one ancient city built by Kenyan Somalis since you claim that they are black too and you are showing me one by portuguese.

It seems like we are having a lack of English language comprehension here. Maybe we can switch to swahili.

Besides, Nigerian muslims rode on camels, donkeys and horses down to the middle east as was common in those times. Where is the River between West Africa to the middle east that you want them to sail?

Can you show me the influence of Portuguese culture among Black Kenyans?
Nigerians interracted with Portuguese from 1485 to the extent that portuguese words found their way into our languages. Lagos is the portuguese name for Eko and many more.

Show me that of black kenyans.

frer8:
Lamu,which dayes back to the 14th Century!

Nowenuse:


Yeah, but the nakedd dancing and jumping masai and other stone age tribes fit well into East Africa. I can see your definition of civilized.

Nowenuse:


KiberaWalker, In your little slum mind, you think you can manipulate Nigerians against each other on this thread right?
The person who opened this thread is not an Igbo person mind you.. He is an Ijaw person.

Nowenuse:


So, how come little India is not regarded as a 100% electrified country if all the villages in the remotest parts of Kenya are connected?

rvp20182:
Kenya is massively investing in infrastructure that will only make it second best to South Africa's world class infrastructure pretty soon. There is ongoing tarmacking of upto 30,000kms of low seal tarmac
Dongo Kundu by-pass Mombasa

Nairobi's Eastland (lower middle class)
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbYYZ_NXkAIc1Fn.jpg:large[/img]

frer8:
Lamu,which dayes back to the 14th Century!

Nowenuse:


Lamu was an arab-swahili ancient city.
I said a Kenyan Somali city!

NairobiWalker:


You're the ones fighting each other No-ones-anus. You're the ones who called Igbos propagandists here. I'm just playing along. Take your gay ass elsewhere will you? I am told Obade-foolish loves licking a gay a.nus.

68816419:

And you think ours is not far better than this ?

NairobiWalker:


You're an idiot. Go back to school. Swahilis are bantus. No-ones-anus kabisa.

Nowenuse:


Can you show me where I myself has called Igbos propagandists? Hahaha KiberaWalker is now pissed off.
Why are you so pissed off? Cos we called you KiberaWalker? Is Kibera not part of Nairobi? You should be proud of it!
At least Kenya leads the world in something, the largest Slum in the world

Nowenuse:

Now I see why you Black Kenyans love white skin so much. Your ancestors were brutally dicked by dirty desert arab/indian men which gave rise to the greatest thing you could ever lay claim to (swahili)

SHAME!

Nowenuse:


Yeah, Bantus who were fuckedd front and back and civilized by Arab & Indian men Why is their culture more middle-eastern than Bantu?

Besides, have you given up on your Somalis so early?

Now I see why you Black Kenyans love white skin so much. Your ancestors were brutally dicked by dirty desert arab/indian men which gave rise to the greatest thing you could ever lay claim to (swahili)

SHAME!