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Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 11:12pm On Sep 09, 2016 |
Rich4god:bros, what you said here makes no sense with regards to the ops at all. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Jay542(m): 11:14pm On Sep 09, 2016 |
plappville:Cos certain people use hijab doesn't make them Muslims. Mia Khalifa claims she's a Muslim and is still amongst highest paid pornst~r and she uses hijab to act her pornogr~phy, does that make her a Muslim or she's just acting? If them Boko haram are Muslims, I wonder why they're bombing mosques equally. All these people are just actors and impersonators, nothing more. I'll suggest you do a deep research about the Isis and the rest of the so-called Islamic terrorist group. Study their attacks. Go on YouTube. Read more on Osama. Read about American Government and westernization. If you've used more than 20G of your data on this, then you're getting there. If not, then there's no point for this. Go in-depth about this terrorism if you really want to know about it and go with a neutral mind. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by aminusanti(m): 11:18pm On Sep 09, 2016 |
HMZi:Ok |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 11:38pm On Sep 09, 2016 |
aminusanti:Aminu, Since you find it hard to accept that verse as a parable, i think the plausible thing for you to do is to point to where Christ put that verse to practice. How many Sinners who opposed him did he condemned to death and actually killed like muhammed did? The same scenario, two judges, two different judgements. 1. A woman was caught in Adultery, she was brought before Jesus, She was to be judged and condemned by Jesus, but instead, Jesus says to her, "Go and sin no more". 2. A woman was caught in adultery, was brought to Muhammed, she was to be judged and condemned by Muhammed, Muhammed said, " Go ahead and stone her to death". Same case, different judgements. why do you fight so much even wen the facts are so glaring? Aminu, you don't have a case. 2 Likes |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 11:42pm On Sep 09, 2016 |
raphieMontella:you lie. You are hunted. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 11:46pm On Sep 09, 2016 |
aminusanti:Ah, but why does Muslims keep shifting the goal post wenever it suits them? Muslims tell us that Eloi Eloi Christ Cried out on the Cross he was calling allah. on the other hand, Muslims say, the man on the Cross is not Christ but a look alike. what shd we believe biko? Aminu, how does what you angrily posted here proof that Jesus killed people and commanded his followers to do same? calm down, you are getting angry, just relax. there's no need to get hysterical 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 11:56pm On Sep 09, 2016 |
aminusanti:If one pays xlose attention, it will be clear that Muhammed didn't write all of the Koran. people like Anas Bin Malik, Abu Bakr probably wrote part of it and inserted Muhammad's name therein to make it look koran. There's a book Titled, "Arabs, Christians and Jews". When you read that book closely you'll doubt that muhammed wrote the Koran as the Muslim claim. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by raphieMontella: 12:29am On Sep 10, 2016 |
analice107:what did i lie on/about? |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 2:03am On Sep 10, 2016 |
raphieMontella:You lied in that, you said, you are comfortable with your Atheists stance. But You don't realize how fidgety you appear here on NL. Your insecurity almost makes you violent. If face to face you can hit someone. You are fighting so hard to convince yourself that these things are what you want them to be, and you are having a hard time keeping still, because deep down you know they not what you want them to be. this here shd be your attitude. Me, for one, do not believe in reincarnation, and not for once will u see me bantering those who believe in it, Never. It's stupid for me to. That's how i see it It simply doesn't exist. That's it. I move on. But you? Check how frantic you are, how angry and hysterical you are against this none existing God. Am beginning to get concern that some folks need to have their heads checked. No offence. 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Demmzy15(m): 6:51am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Jay542:Mai khalifah is an Arab Lebanese Catholic who grew up in America. I wonder why you'll all prefer to speak without knowledge! |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Demmzy15(m): 6:59am On Sep 10, 2016 |
analice107:Jesus lived in Palestine which was ruled by the Romans. According to the Roman law, the punishment for adultery isn't stoning to death so therefore Jesus has no right to command such punishment. The Jews clearly knew this and they wanted to trap Jesus, its what we call "head I win, tail you lose". If Jesus said "don't stone her" they(Jews) would quickly proclaim, I thought you were the Messiah, savior of the Jews and yet you can't uphold the law. If Jesus says "stone here, he'll be in trouble with the Roman authority because he's neither a judge nor an official of the state. So Jesus was caught between this two dilemma, he also being a smart person, commanded the one without sin to cast the first stone, that was how he defeated them! Read your bible well, if it was in a Jewish state, that woman would have been stoned! 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Jay542(m): 7:00am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Demmzy15:The idea is about what she's portraying. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Demmzy15(m): 7:01am On Sep 10, 2016 |
analice107:Please could you give us a source for that allegation about Abubakar and Anas inserting into the Qur'an? |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Demmzy15(m): 7:03am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Jay542:Who? |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Jay542(m): 7:14am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Demmzy15:Mia. Even on her Wikipedia, they wer not sure. They had used the word "She claimed her family is Catholic" let's not derail the topic sha. All I'm saying is people tend to think she's a Muslim more than any other religion. Cos she acts with hijab. 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by aminusanti(m): 7:52am On Sep 10, 2016 |
analice107: The way Bible was corrupted, altered, edited, revised, or tampered with, the Quran is free from all that which if you sincerely analyze u will surely know is true. your above probability claim got no single proof and i can't sell these warnings from our creator to ur assumptions. [b]"Surely, We have revealed the 'Zhikr' (Quran), and surely, We will preserve it" 15:9 “No falsehood will come to it, in the present or in the future; a revelation from One who is Wise and Praiseworthy.” 41:42 "This is an honorable Quran. In a protected book. None can grasp it except the sincere. A revelation from the Lord of the universe" Quran 56:77-80. "Indeed, it is a glorious Quran. In a preserved master tablet" Quran 85:21-22. “O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) making (things) clear unto you, after a break in (the series of) Messengers, lest you say: “There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner.” But now has come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner. And Allah is Able to do all things. (Quran, Surah Al-Maida:19)” “Do not exaggerate about me as was exaggerated about ‘Eesa ibn Maryam. Say: the slave of Allah and His Messenger.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6830.) And if he (Muhammad SAW) had forged a false saying concerning Us (Allah), We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might), And then certainly should have cut off his life artery (Aorta), And none of you could withhold Us from (punishing) him. (Quran, Surah Al-Haqqah:44-47) [/b] Prophet Muhammad was the first to write down the Quran revealed to him and when he died , the whole Quran was completely written, although not in one book, but rather on pieces of woods, papers, palm leaves, bones…etc. It was the first Khalifa, Abu Bakr who collected the Quran into one book. The manuscript on which the Qur'an was collected, remained with Abu Bakr and then with Umar (the second Khalifa), and after him, it remained with Hafsa, 'Umar's daughter and one of the Prophet's wives. There's a book Titled, "Arabs, Christians and Jews". When you read that book closely you'll doubt that muhammed wrote the Koran as the Muslim claim.shed some light here from the book u read lets see whats putting u in doubt 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by raphieMontella: 8:34am On Sep 10, 2016 |
analice107:is this your idea of a joke? Or u just wanted to say something? actually..i think youre the insecure party here...seems we are shaking your faith...huh?? did the ''holy please try and make sense... Warrisdis why do u preach to muslims? Et all? like i said... Spider man doesnt exist..and theres no ''law'' on earth that prevents me from insulting spiderman...no matter the amount of persons who believe he saves nyc... is this the holy spirit talking? Or your confused state? i begin to wonder if this holy spirit who's supposedly in devout christians is even there at all. Why dont you ask him? Or it? |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Demmzy15(m): 10:15am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Jay542:So you really think acting pornography with hijab speaks anything? Hijab isn't just about covering the hair but the whole body except the hands and face. According to a documentary I watched, the performers want their fan to visualize their imagination. I hope you can get my point; you can have performers dressing as police officers, does that mean they're police officers in real life? You can have some dress as Catholic nuns, but does that mean they're really nuns? You can some dress as doctors and prisoners, does that mean they're so in reality? It's no, that's why they're called actors/actresses! Hope you grab? 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Jay542(m): 10:26am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Demmzy15:I get your point perfectly and I totally agree. But Critics won't get your point. They say they're acting about what is happening. They won't care that they are trying to visualize their fantasies. Hope you grab my point? |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Demmzy15(m): 10:31am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Jay542:Yeah, I do and thanks for understanding! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Jay542(m): 10:33am On Sep 10, 2016 |
Demmzy15:We are all learning sir 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by aminusanti(m): 11:15am On Sep 10, 2016 |
analice107: What fact are u taking about pls?? You people are completely confused. let me put it for this way for any lay man to understand the confusion you people are in [b]One of the most common claim made by Christians is that Jesus never killed anybody. They often always bring this up against Muslims as if to show that the prophet Muhammad was a bad person because he killed people. Before refuting the myth that Jesus never killed anyone, we must also expose the Christian double standard and the Christian weak line of argument. If Jesus is great, and the prophet Muhammad is bad because he killed people, then so is Moses, and so is David. The OT shows us a lot of battles that both Moses and David took part in, and both these men killed a lot of people, including women and children. Yet when we show this to Christians, they simply ignore it, or try to justify it. Yet what is most inconsistent about this is that if the prophet Muhammad kills people in battle or war, the Christian goes mad and starts screaming out 'false prophet! Such inconsistency from the Christian only exposes the Christian's deceptive character, and shows that these Christians dont have no holy spirit in them. Now let us go back to the main topic, which is refuting the Christian propaganda lie that Jesus never killed anyone. As you all know, Christians always make the claim that Jesus is God, they claim that Jesus is the same God of the OT. So basically what we have is this: 1- Jesus is God 2- Jesus is the God of the Old Testement 3- Christians believe that the OT is the inspired word of God 4- The OT is authentic to the Christian 5- The God in the OT is Jesus So since Jesus is the God of the OT, we shall now look at the God of the OT ordering the KILLINGS of many people. if you need those verses i can proceed putting them here but if you say he is a different GOD then explain this to us plss Jesus pbuh said: "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have NOT COME TO ABOLISH THEM BUT TO FULFILL THEM. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished." (Matthew 5:17-18) It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled. "Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.'" (Matthew 23:1-3) We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish rabbi's) were following it. So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death. You would prefer to propagate the LIES of the Roman Hitman who killed the early Christians - the one whom you term Saint Paul - and the rest of us term - an Anti-Christ. Paul's new laws were a slap to the face of Jesus' teachings. NOW TELL US IS WAS YOUR GOD JESUS A PACIFIST? [/b] 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 12:06pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
aminusanti:Just see how you are shifting stance? Just sit back and read what you typed see if it makes sense. 1 Like |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 12:35pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
raphieMontella:Hug yourself Child, Life is tough for the blind and dead brian. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by aminusanti(m): 12:52pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
[quote author=analice107 post=49224408] Ah, but why does Muslims keep shifting the goal post wenever it suits them? Muslims tell us that Eloi Eloi Christ Cried out on the Cross he was calling allah. on the other hand, Muslims say, the man on the Cross is not Christ but a look alike. what shd we believe biko? Aminu, how does what you angrily posted here proof that Jesus killed people and commanded his followers to do same?I ain't angry mr man/woman IS JESUS GOD? IS HE THE GOD OF MOSES? IS HE THE GOD OF OLD TESTAMENT? IS OT AUTHENTIC TO CHRISTIANS? WHO ISSUED ALL THOSE KILLING AND VIOLENT VERSES IN THE BIBLE? and if you want to talk about crucifixion i can prove it to u even d bible declares that Jesus was never crucified? |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 12:52pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
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Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 12:55pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
Demmzy15:Demzy Pick the Book i posted and read, wen u read that book you'd see stuff in the koran that happened long after Muhammed had died. How did those events found their way into the Koran? Muslims with lies. 2 Likes |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 12:58pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
Demmzy15:So you are implying that Since Judea was occupied by Rome, The Jews practiced the Roman laws and traditions? hahahahahahahahahahaha. What a man or boy you are. in trying to pin your lies you come out as stupid. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by aminusanti(m): 1:37pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
[quote author=analice107 post=49237066] You keep talking about this corrupt Bible wen u cant show us the original, wait, do u think that wen u repeat this lie over and over it becomes truth? So pathetic. I wish i can post a video here showing the 27 Different Arabic Koranic versions i guess u know nothing about, but i don't know how to post Youtube videos. There are 27 versions of Koran. my Bible has never been abrogated but over and over, the koran keeps getting abrogated. As we speak the council of Islamic studies can just decide to abrogate a part of the koran and that will he it. But you close your eyes to that but shout about corrupted Bible. i swear you made me laugh so hard after reading ur crap above =)) trust me even your fellow Christians will laugh at you by saying 27 qurans..i am laughing in hebrew hahahaha..pls help me with the link of the youtube video let me watch those 27 quran or just get us some major changes (verses) that shows the difference. my guys u are really outdated i just knw, even by chance u never come across any christian critic that ever mentioned something close to this rubbish u are posting here. As for Bible of course dozens of evidences prove the bible's corruption by Bible writers and it can't be reliable which is already mentioned in the Holy Quran. if u need those alterations, corruption and editions i can post them here. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 1:56pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
[quote author=aminusanti post=49238435][/quote] You can only laf because am not able to post the video here. what am i even saying? Even if i post the video here, u'll still deny it. If Muhammed were to he alive today and he hears the Gospel and turns to Christ, You muslims will deny him and say he was never a muslim. Its actually a waste of MB talking to you. You are dead. |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by analice107: 2:00pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
[quote author=aminusanti post=49237061][/quote] oh yeah? He was never crucified yet he cried out My God, My God why has thou forsaken me? The same passage you yourself quoted? Ah, Muslim. Oya, show me where the Bible said Jesus was not Crucified. Islam has eaten your head ooo. 2 Likes |
Re: Open Question For Muslims And Christians. by Demmzy15(m): 2:11pm On Sep 10, 2016 |
analice107: Just as how when the British began ruling Nigeria, our system of government changed. The north which ruled by Sharia ceased to continue. The Jews engaged Jesus similarly about the issue of taxes, they wanted a way to trap him in between the authority and the law. hahahahahahahahahahaha. What a man or boy you are. in trying to pin your lies you come out as stupid. Empty barrels make the most noise, I'll appreciate it if you can stop making noise and disprove what I said. 1 Like 1 Share |
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