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Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 2:55pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: On nairaland,nothing else interest me more than people who pray to a Jewish idea of god. I think is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. I have seen some ex Christians set free from the blackmail you call religion. Funny thing is that a white girl actually introduced me to nairaland by default. It's actually popular than you think 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 2:57pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
cckris: Of course you are. But how did you become a christian? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:00pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: Oh really? The idea of GOD is a serious issue that needs to be addressed? Why is it so serious and what is the essence of addressing it? I thought that the idea of GOD was fabulous and trivial to atheists? |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by cckris: 3:05pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes:Entertaining you isn't part of Christianity. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 3:08pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: The poorer a society is the more religious they become. Christianity itself is an excuse to remsin poor, because it doesn't support creativity. The idea of a god brings fear and look at how Nigeria is today. "There is god o" even on national tv. The amounts of churches you have is more that schools. You rely on the Jewish god to solve solvable problems. Religion makes you your own enemies. Too many churches, yet number one criminals in Africa. god does not exist. It is hard for a black man to accept this fact. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 3:09pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
cckris: Christianity is like Tom and Jerry cartoon. It's not real but yet funny 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:13pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
lepasharon: If He doesn't then why all the rage against someone who does not exist? 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:13pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: Can you empirically prove that belief in GOD makes a nation poor? Is USA's motto not "IN GOD WE TRUST"? Are you against the Christian GOD or are you against the idea of gods? Can you prove that Christianity doesn't support creativity? Can you prove that the idea of GOD brings fear? And fear of what? Can you prove that Christians make no attempt at solving problems in the society? |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:19pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Ifenes, critically evaluate how the acceptance of the non-existence of GOD can solve any of the major problems facing Nigeria today such as: corruption, epileptic power supply, hunger, diseases, kidnapping and economic recession. 1 Like |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by yorhmienerd(m): 3:21pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:You just made my day. Kudos! HardMirror EyeHateGod Seun attention needed |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 3:33pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Gold Oil and Diamond of course. Can you see the pyramid of Egypt on their currency? Think again Mr. They know exactly who their god is and it's not the imaginary one in the sky Are you against the Christian GOD or are you against the idea of gods? Can you prove that Christianity doesn't support creativity? both There was never a Christian god. The idea is a scam and blackmail to keep you obedient. And your 10 commandments is a proof. You cannot question god neither can you think for yourself. The story of the garden of Eden is proof the Christian god( fabricated god) don't want humans as clever as him. Which actually meant the elites who composed the bible want knowledge far away from the majority. Oyedepo rides a private jet paid for by his poor members. Can you see how the pyramid of the society works? Can you prove that the idea of GOD brings fear? And fear of what? The fear of god protects your pastors from you. Religion is anti- anarchy. It stops the poor from murdering the rich. Can you prove that Christians make no attempt at solving problems in the society? Define a true Christian 1 Like |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:40pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: You have not answered my question: is there any empirical proof that belief in the existence of GOD causes a nation to be poor? GOD blessed America with gold, diamond and oil. The argument of the Egyptian pyramid further proves that America believes in a god, whatever it is. You even admit they know their god. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:46pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: How is the idea of GOD a blackmail? To keep me in obedience to what? Can you point out who the 10 Commandments ascribe obedience to? How did you know that I don't think for myself? I choose not to commit adultery: does that mean I don't think for myself? You said that the Christian GOD does not exist: how can He not want me to be as intelligent as He is? Can an unborn baby not want me to be as small as he is? What knowledge does the Bible want far from me? |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 3:46pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: The mind once set free will begin to function well. Once the mind is free creativity sets in. Buhari said "change starts with me". Do you know what that means? It means to change the situation I'm in, I will need to change my approach to things. Prayer for Nigeria is now a national anthem. 250 million people praying every day without change. Relying on a god that never answers . repeating the same pattern that doesn't work will give the same old results Rather than pray of go to church, why not sweep the roads, organise sanitation,promote unity within all tribes, do sports, relax at home on Sunday's, turn noise making churches to charity homes where you donate money to help power supplies like Nepa. The money in the accounts of the churches alone is enough to repair roads, generate power supply etc. Don't forget the church building is not the church, the people are. Deeper life alone have the means to repair all the roads in Lagos state. The people's money are in the churches bank accounts god is the reason Nigerians have not butchered all their pastors. 7 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:52pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: The fear of GOD protects me from committing sin and it makes me a good citizen of my country. Yes. Religion is anti-anarchy. Anarchy is demonic. On the other hand, atheism supports anarchy. So didn't even know who a Christian was and you concluded Christianity is the problem of the society? Well, read the Bible and see who a Christian is. Then you can judge whether Christians are the problem of the society or not. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 3:59pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: I suppose the minds of atheists in Nigeria are free (from who-knows-what). How has creativity manifested in the lives of atheists in Nigeria? How has atheists changed the situation in Nigeria? Can you prove that Christians only pray for Nigeria and do not contribute their effort to its progress? Name one single nation in the whole that atheism has helped and critically evaluate how atheism helped them. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 4:02pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:What would you not do to avoid hell fire? Can you point out who the 10 Commandments ascribe obedience to? Is that not your lists of dos and don'ts. You wanna tell me you are in the time of grace? How did you know that I don't think for myself? I choose not to commit adultery: does that mean I don't think for myself? Why do you pay tithes and offering? How do you feel if you skip 3 Sunday classes in a row? How do you feel about the picture of a man nailed to a cross advertised in churches and Christian books? How do you feel about women being degraded by the bible? Call the filthy, unclean etc ? You said that the Christian GOD does not exist: how can He not want me to be as intelligent as He is? Can an unborn baby not want me to be as small as he is? I. You do not have evidence this god is real. 2. You are not aware even aware of the passages in Genesis that says" man have become like us, let's go down and confuse their language". Why would a god do that? 3 you cannot use an unborn baby to explain anything here. Let's focus on your god. 4 you do not think is an art of terrorism to invade others, kill their women and take their land as written in the bible? His intelligent are you if you don't think that's wrong? What knowledge does the Bible want far from me? That you are yourself God. In the sense that what you reverence/ worship is what you really are. The houseboy who had no clue he is the Master. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 4:03pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Answer the question..... Who is a Christian ? |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 4:07pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Athiesm is only a disbelieve in god. Atheism won't help much. But a critical thinker has a better chance to survive, maximise opportunities, make researches, utilise knowledge to better is world. People who believe in gods see no need to improve the planet since they think jesus is coming preparing a place for them. 3 Likes |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:07pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: Can you prove that Christians don't sweep roads, organize sanitation or promote unity? And how can relaxing at home on Sunday mornings help the situation of Nigeria? Do you mean Christians should use their salary to build roads and provide electricity? If Christians choose to pay offerings to GOD, how have they dwarfed the progress of Nigeria? |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:39pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: I obey the commandments, in obedience to GOD. I obey GOD not man. I pay tithes and offerings because GOD instructed me to. My Pastor did not instruct me. I worship on Saturday, the Sabbath of GOD. I feel bad if I miss church, because I missed GOD's blessings. The Seventh-day adventist church doesn't create and publish pictures of a man on a cross. I feel grateful to GOD for the death of Jesus on the cross because it delivered me from sin and made sure my share in GOD's kingdom. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:47pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: You too don't have evidence GOD is not real. GOD confused the language of man because of rebellion. GOD visited retribution on the heathen for their rebellion. He destroyed them (His creatures) for disobedience, just as I would smash my phone on the ground for misbehaving. GOD will still soon destroy all the ungodly people. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by wolesmile(m): 4:54pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
adjoviomole: Bro, I am the OP. And on the contrary, I am a Muslim. A devoted, Sufi Islam practitioner. I look beyond ordinary layman meanings to all chapters and verses in scriptures, no matter the religion. I tend to take things of the spirit esoterically. You hardly see me condemn other people's faith, cos my Quran chapter 109 verse 6 teaches me that "Your way is your way, and my way, mine" That holy book also make me realize there is no compulsion in religion. But bro, I have watched in dismay, the way Christians on this thread attack Islam and anything Islamic. You all put up holier than thou attitude, like you have the best of religions. If we start opening both our scriptures chapter by chapter, verse by verse, I pray you still have enough faith to believe in your Bible. And if you want to get down with me on this, we have just one version of the Quran. I'll give you different versions of the Bible to compare, not the differences in grammatical compositions, but complete alterations in some controversial verses to suit the purposes of the writers. 1 Like |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 4:56pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: I am not GOD, and I cannot presume to be GOD. This quote really betrays you atheists: Atheism appeals to human pride and ego. Atheists delude themselves that they are gods. Why would atheists believe that one is what he/she worships? What logic is more inadequate than that? Now, if I say I worship Obama as my god because he became a president of USA, am I Obama? or can I ever be the president of USA? Therefore I am not GOD. What of those that worship flying spaghetti? Are they spaghetti? Why did you quickly ascribe GOD's exalted position to me? Would you still tell somebody that worships a cow that he is what he worships? Doesn't it show that atheism is simply rebellion to Jehovah? It becomes obvious that atheism is born out of hate for Jehovah and it uses appeal to human pride and ego to delude its apologists. 1 Like |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:07pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: If atheism won't help much, why do you atheists behave as if it is the antidote to the problems of the world today? Can you prove that Christians are not critical thinkers? Further, is lack of belief in gods=critical thinking? Who said believers in GOD see no need to keep, maintain and improve our GOD-given earth? |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 5:07pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: I have proof your god is not real. The christian god is a combination of all gods. Osiris,Ra,Horus etc These gods allegories surrounding the story of the Sun. Even Jesus,the Sun of God. Jesus and his 12 disciples illustrates the movement and relationship of the Sun and the signs of Zodiac.. But Christians think Jesus was real. No he wasn't You are not paying offering to god,you are paying to an organization. How much have your benefited from your years of offering donations? 1 Like |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 5:08pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: If religion helps,how come poor countries are mostly religious. The less you think of god the more you think of yourself |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:14pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: So, according to your logic, the poor countries are poor just because they believe in GOD? How did you conclude I don't think of myself? Furthermore, how can "thinking of myself" help Nigeria? You're right in a way though: I think of others before myself. Christianity upholds humility. 1 Like |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:19pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: You believe in zodiac, osiris, ra and so on, yet you claim you're an atheist? I thought atheism was lack of belief in gods? According to atheist logic, no god ever existed. If osiris never existed, how can you use it to prove anything about the Christian GOD which you claim doesn't exist too? I give alms too. I never think of benefitting from what I give out. Giving is a Christian virtue. |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 5:21pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Critical thinking makes you question the unquestionable. Isn't your god unquestionable? Nigeria is in this state due to poor reasoning,reliance on god,blaming witches and wizard etc 3 Likes |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by ifenes(m): 5:26pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: You are funny. I studied(not worship) Astrology/ in school,so its was easy for me too see where the Sun turned into God. Horus(rising sun),Osiris(sun-set) The Sun walking on the water(remember jesus?) Listen,I'm off to the gym......chat soon 3 Likes |
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:29pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ifenes: LOL. So questioning GOD is critical thinking? The same critical thinking you said will be of benefit to Nigeria? Why would Nigeria question GOD for disease and poverty? How did GOD put Nigeria in this condition? And how can questioning GOD solve Nigeria's problems? How has reliance on GOD caused poverty to Nigeria? |
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