KingEbukasBlog:


[size=16pt]Atheist leaders killed over 200 million people in 100 years . From your statement as per the emboldened text , you support the mass killings of innocent religious people because you see it as a right decision since atheism was the animus . [/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

Such wickedness !!

cc : Winner01

you wan start?
A war/rebellion started by christian initiatives...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
best estimate 20---30m killed
highest estimate(inclusion of other factors of war) 100m killed...


Are you happy now?

DoctorAlien:


Show us where the Bible endorses killing.

1) Capital Punishment Crimes:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)


2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons:

Kill Brats
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)


3) Murdering Children

Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

winner01:
The Bible does not endorse killing.

And stop mentioning people like Alan turing or Mark zuckerberg like they share your stupidity. These people dont go about telling people they lack a belief in God.
Do you want us to lack a belief with you?

@ bolded

1) Capital Punishment Crimes:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)


2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons:

Kill Brats
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.
When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)


3) Murdering Children

Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

adoyi8:
The Bible also has a good record of people that kill and accords respect to them. The bible endorses killing but atheism doesnt. The only connection i have with anybody that calls himself an atheist is the fact that we dont believe in God. any crime he commits and the punishment he receives for it is his own cup of tea. why do you leave out other Good atheists like Alan Turing etc he spent their lives serving humanity

alan turing--father of computer science(atheist)
steve jobs--brain behind the ''apple'' company(atheist)
bill gates--''microsoft''(atheist;an agnostical one)
mark zuckerberg--''facebook''...(sworn atheist)
the killings led by christianity...
www.nairaland.com/3355430/evil-nature-christian-god-genocidal#49525544
and their democides when in power
www.nairaland.com/3355430/evil-nature-christian-god-genocidal#49525666


couple that with their love for hell...
And the number of people that have walked planet earth...
And tell me who advocates killingg...

KingEbukasBlog:


That's a good question . I mean there are myriads of testimonies of people whose lives changed for good because they accepted Christ . They are so happy in Christ and everything . What can atheism offer to those people ? Hopelessness , loss of any sense of purpose of life , depression , and the illusion of being logical and intelligent of course .

secular humanism?

raphieMontella:

you wan start?
A war/rebellion started by christian initiatives...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
best estimate 20---30m killed
highest estimate(inclusion of other factors of war) 100m killed...


Are you happy now?

The Taiping Rebellion was a civil war . Its called Taiping Rebellion or Taiping Civil War . Hong Xiuquan- the warlord- simply used religion to rebel against the Manchu Dynasty - a dynasty founded by the Manchu clan Aisin Gioro . Hong Xuiquan was a Hakka Chinese leader , the Hakkas were another ethnic group in China .

So its obvious , very obvious that Hong Xiuquan used Christianity as a tool to wage war against the clan who was in power at that time .

honourhim:
Atheism simply defined is unbelief in the existence of a creator. After that what happens next?
I mean how does this put more food on my table than i already have?
How does this add to the academic qualifications that i have already acquired?
How does this add to the success i record in my career?
How does this add more cars and houses to me?
What has atheism to offer me rather than for me to be running around like a rabid dog and screaming- "there is no God, there is no God"?
Belief in God is not a burden to me rather its my joy, my peace, my courage, my strength and my everything.
Since all that atheism has to offer me is unbelief in God and a sense of false intelligence, then it is worthless and a waste to me.
I dont have time for such a waste.

Other christians can add their own.

Not that what you just said is wrong but i just want to tell you to get knowledge, because when you do you will realize there is more to life than choosing sides with either Christians or atheist. Get enlightenment that sit here and argue.

honourhim:
Atheism simply defined is unbelief in the existence of a creator. After that what happens next?
I mean how does this put more food on my table than i already have?
How does this add to the academic qualifications that i have already acquired?
How does this add to the success i record in my career?
How does this add more cars and houses to me?
What has atheism to offer me rather than for me to be running around like a rabid dog and screaming- "there is no God, there is no God"?
Belief in God is not a burden to me rather its my joy, my peace, my courage, my strength and my everything.
Since all that atheism has to offer me is unbelief in God and a sense of false intelligence, then it is worthless and a waste to me.
I dont have time for such a waste.

Other christians can add their own.

Glib lip service: "God is not a burden to me rather its my joy, my peace, my courage, my strength.."

You let slip what you really value, earlier -- nothing spiritual. They are "food on your table", "academic qualifications" (presumably to enhance the food on your table), career (presumably to enhance the food on your table), cars and houses.

You are a materialist, first and foremost.

KingEbukasBlog:


[size=14pt]The Taiping Rebellion was a civil war . Its called Taiping Rebellion or Taiping Civil War [/size]

but mao's great famine was not/is not because of dictatorship?

Taiping rebellion...
christians and christian initiatives huh?
So?

raphieMontella:

but mao's great famine was not/is not because of dictatorship?

Taiping rebellion...
christians and christian initiatives huh?
So?

I modified my post . Read it again .

raphieMontella:

alan turing--father of computer science(atheist)
steve jobs--brain behind the ''apple'' company(atheist)
bill gates--''microsoft''(atheist;an agnostical one)
mark zuckerberg--''facebook''...(sworn atheist)
the killings led by christianity...
www.nairaland.com/3355430/evil-nature-christian-god-genocidal#49525544
and their democides when in power
www.nairaland.com/3355430/evil-nature-christian-god-genocidal#49525666


couple that with their love for hell...
And the number of people that have walked planet earth...
And tell me who advocates killingg...

Steve jobs and Bill Gates are not atheists.

KingEbukasBlog:


I modified my post . Read it again .

yep...but
the instigator is a christian..
Likewise the case of stalin,mao and the likes..(atheists)


although atheism is not political and christianity is not in link with ''dynasty''

KingEbukasBlog:

Steve jobs and Bill Gates are not atheists.

agnostics...ironically atheists... Steve jobs rejected christianity outrightly...

EyeHateGod:
Am in Nigeria not in Rome!

lol

raphieMontella:

yep...but
the instigator is a christian..
Likewise the case of stalin,mao and the likes..(atheists)

although atheism is not political and christianity is not in link with ''dynasty''

Atheism is political - communism is proof .

Christianity is not political in anyway .

You need to understand the story . The warlord's subterfuge was simply creating his own version of Christianity to lure fanatics mostly from his ethnic group to overthrow the government .

I want you to think .

1. Hong's soldiers were up to 1 million and they were mostly from his clan , the few others were from minor ethnic groups .

2. Hong was interested in overthrowing the Qing's dynasty - the clan in power .

3. Hong claimed to be the brother of Christ . Seriously ? Don't get me started on how he "discovered" he was Jesus' brother

4. Hong added his own books to the bible as the war progressed .

5. Historians describe Hong as ostensibly Christian . Look up the word "ostensible"

So claiming the war was fought for a religious cause is ludicrous . Hong used Christianity as a tool to grow his army and overthrow the Manchu Dynasty , also called Qing Dynasty . You don't need to be a genius to figure that out .

Hahn,

Your ignorance of the Bible and its teachings is contagious. I know you don't know what "theocracy" means. Even in secular states, criminals are executed for certain crimes.

Anyway, please show me where the Bible allows humans to take life of their own freewill.

hahn:


There is a large percentage of lives of Muslims whose lives have also changed for the better after accepting Mohammed. Does this mean that Islam is the true religion?

We are not talking about Islam , we want to know what atheism can offer people whose lives were changed by Christianity .


Nice try by the way .

adoyi8:


First your definition of atheism is wrong. Atheism is not unbelief in a Creator, it is unbelief in a god or gods. How does Atheism help you?
Imagine a Muslim wearing a suicide vest because he believes that he will go to paradise after killing innocent people,
Imagine a Jehovah witness Husband denying a blood transfusion to his wife because his god says its wrong then having to raise his children without a mother.
Imagine the poor Nigerian woman selling things in the markets only to give 10% of their earnings to a pastor who is way richer than them.
Atheism helps you to make the right decisions

Suddenly you ve changed the definition of atheism. Story story.
You need to sought out with Muslims to know why they kill. I 'm not a muslim. I dont read their quoran so i dont know whether their quoran commanded to kill.

On the issue of JW only them can explain that to you.

Pastors who embezzle church fund are doing it out of their greed not out of bible instruction.

And you foolishly decided not to mention the important role that christianity played in bringing missionary schools in Nigeria/Africa.
You failed to mention that christianity brought orphanage homes to us where motherless babies are taken care of.

You failed to mention many things that humanity benefits from christianity.
. And you foolishly ended by telling us that atheism helps you to make right decision. So unbelief in God helps you to make right decision? You really sound stupid. So the missionaries that brought mission schools to us here did not make the right decision since they were not atheists ? Receive sense.

Meanwhile what i wrote in the op is about me and my question is what else can atheism offer me in this life than i have gotten already? Absolutely nothing. Just the no-God madness.

KingEbukasBlog:


We are not talking about Islam , we want to know what atheism can offer people whose lives were changed by Christianity .


Nice try by the way .

They can think for themselves. They do not have to rely on a book filled with savagery, barbarism and lies to live their lives.

They can depend on themselves instead waiting on an incompetent non existent god to solve themselves.

They can rely on reason to solve their problems instead of blind faith.

Instead of blind belief, they will rely more on logic and reason. They will be motivated to research and learn for themselves instead of believing everything their pastor or anyone else for that matter tells them.

They will not have to pay 10% of their income to the enrichment of fraudulent pastorpreneurs monthly. They can use this money for their families instead.

When they are ill, they can go to a hospital and not reject blood transfusion like in the case of Jehovah witnesses thus innocent people will not have to die.

They will be more patriotic. It is shameful seeing Africans claim they are descendants of Israel.

They will not have to live their lives in fear of witches and wizards. They will also not go around labeling everyone witches and wizards. Especially innocent old women and men in the village.

Innocent children will also escape the torture that Christians dish out to them simply because they are suspected to be witches.

They will work hard to study instead of expecting angels to come to their aid in the exam hall.

They enjoy freedom from hypocrisy.

etc

Now, since this is about disbelief against belief in god, you can now answer my question since I have answered yours

There is a large percentage of lives of Muslims whose lives have also changed for the better after accepting Mohammed. Does this mean that Islam is the true religion?

I dey wait

How atheists and skeptics and infidels dig into the Bible in search of non-existent loopholes:

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheism is political - communism is proof .

Christianity is not political in anyway .

oh yes it is...the christian democides prove this

You need to understand the story . The warlord's subterfuge was simply creating his own version of Christianity to lure fanatics mostly from his ethnic group to overthrow the government .

what about stalin
he wanted to be the ruler of all nations so he jumped on communism and thats why he even eliminated his communists friends(so long he felt they were planning to overthrow him)

btw what do you mean by his version of christianity?
Sda's observe the jewish sabbath...does it make them non-christians?
Jehovah witnesses take jesus as man and not God..are they non-christians also?
make me understand you

I want you to think .

1. Hong's soldiers were up to 1 million and they were mostly from his clan , the few others were from minor ethnic groups .

so??
In the biblical days...
Twas only ''israel''(one country) God knew..

2. Hong was interested in overthrowing the Qing's dynasty - the clan in power .

stalin was obsessed about power too

3. Hong claimed to be the brother of Christ . Seriously ? Don't get me started on how he "discovered" he was Jesus' brother

paul claimed to speak under the power of jesus...
Paul never met jesus during his physical ''earth-days''..
So??

4. Hong added his own books to the bible as the war progressed .

divine revelation..
We have many versions of the bible sef presently...so?

5. Historians describe Hong as ostensibly Christian . Look up the word "ostensible"

historians describe stalin as a ''dictator''...

Ehen??

So claiming the war was fought for a religious cause is ludicrous . Hong used Christianity as a tool to grow his army and overthrow the Manchu Dynasty , also called Qing Dynasty . You don't need to be a genius to figure that out .

okay then how is the ''holodomor''(man made famine) done by stalin to ukranians for wanting independence an atheistic cause?

Cc kingebukasblog come and explain...

raphieMontella:

oh yes it is...the christian democides prove this


what about stalin
he wanted to be the ruler of all nations so he jumped on communism and thats why he even eliminated his communists friends(so long he felt they were planning to overthrow him)

btw what do you mean by his version of christianity?
Sda's observe the jewish sabbath...does it make them non-christians?
Jehovah witnesses take jesus as man and not God..are they non-christians also?
make me understand you



so??
In the biblical days...
Twas only ''israel''(one country) God knew..

stalin was obsessed about power too

paul claimed to speak under the power of jesus...
Paul never met jesus during his physical ''earth-days''..
So??

divine revelation..
We have many versions of the bible sef presently...so?

historians describe stalin as a ''dictator''...

Ehen??

okay then how is the ''holodomor''(man made famine) done by stalin to ukranians for wanting independence an atheistic cause?

Cc kingebukasblog come and explain...

What the heck man ?! I don't understand your response one bit . Am I talking about Stalin or Hong ? Apparently , you just mentioned The Taiping Rebellion without knowing the story . I thought you knew the story !!

Mtcheew , you atheists are just funny !

Just like the other day , CoolUsername mentioned Confucianism and Taoism and I thought he understood the tenets of those religions . Turned out he knew nothing and was just making senseless arguments .

You guys should just stick to your lame God does not exist arguments and stop mentioning topics you have little or no knowledge about !

KingEbukasBlog:


What the heck man ?! I don't understand your response one bit . Am I talking about Stalin or Hong ? Apparently , you just mentioned The Taiping Rebellion without knowing the story . I thought you knew the story !!

Mtcheew , you atheists are just funny !

Just like the other day , CoolUsername mentioned Confucianism and Taoism and I thought he understood the tenets of those religions . Turned out he knew nothing and was just making senseless arguments .

You guys should just stick to your lame God does not exist arguments and stop mentioning topics you have little or no knowledge about !

chill bro..
you equate communism deaths to atheism as the ''cause''...


Saying atheism is political...i wonder when/how ''disbelief in God'' became political...


M just going by your logic sire...

KingEbukasBlog:


What the heck man ?! I don't understand your response one bit . Am I talking about Stalin or Hong ? Apparently , you just mentioned The Taiping Rebellion without knowing the story . I thought you knew the story !!

Mtcheew , you atheists are just funny !

Just like the other day , CoolUsername mentioned Confucianism and Taoism and I thought he understood the tenets of those religions . Turned out he knew nothing and was just making senseless arguments .

You guys should just stick to your lame God does not exist arguments and stop mentioning topics you have little or no knowledge about !

Every single source calls Confucianism and Taoism none theistic, whether. Ancestral reverence is not theism. Don't be a half-wit, read sometime before declaring you've one an argument.

Or do you mind Mahoning the ND names of the gods of those religions?

CoolUsername:


Every single source calls Confucianism and Taoism none theistic, whether. Ancestral reverence is not theism. Don't be a half-wit, read sometime before declaring you've one an argument.

Or do you mind Mahoning the ND names of the gods of those religions?

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or what

CoolUsername:


Every single source calls Confucianism and Taoism none theistic, whether. Ancestral reverence is not theism. Don't be a half-wit, read sometime before declaring you've one an argument.

Or do you mind Mahoning the ND names of the gods of those religions?

That snippet was for Toaism . Confucianism obviously deified their ancestors .

All you do is accuse people of having no arguments while what you do is to read the first paragraph of Wikipedia and rush into conclusions .

KingEbukasBlog:

.

Those gods you talk of only represent cosmological or philosophical notions, such as life, good and bad.

You built a thread yourself for spiritual atheists who believe in supernatural forces. Didn't you?

KingEbukasBlog:


That snippet was for Toaism . Confucianism obviously deified their ancestors .

All you do is accuse people of having no arguments while what you do is to read the first paragraph of Wikipedia and rush into conclusions .

I noticed that you couldn't even bring out any source that you felt could buttress your point considering Confucianism. Filial piety isn't the same thing as deification, considering that I'm the Han dynasty, Confucianism was the preferred religion of scholars. Your point is not.

CoolUsername:


Those gods you talk of only represent cosmological or philosophical notions, such as life, good and bad.

You built a thread yourself for spiritual atheists who believe in supernatural forces. Didn't you?

Have you ever heard of the Jade Emperor and his creation myths ?

CoolUsername:


I noticed that you couldn't even bring out any source that you felt could buttress your point considering Confucianism. Filial piety isn't the same thing as deification, considering that I'm the Han dynasty, Confucianism was the preferred religion of scholars. Your point is not.

Stop falsely representing my views .

The doctrines of Confucianism are centered upon

1. Ancestor worship which is the veneration of the deceased ancestors whose spirits are believed to control the fortunes of the descendants.
2. Filial piety

Like I told you , the Confucianists deify their ancestors though not explicitly mentioned . They pray to them with the belief that can control their fortunes . Personal gods in different cultures across the world play the same role !

Come on my nigga ! Why you dey like this na ?!

@ CoolUsername :

The only difference between the Taoists gods and other gods is that the abode of the Taoists' gods is within this universe