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Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by winner01(m): 9:42am On Oct 01, 2016 |
HardMirror:Police men are real, thats why we dont spend our lives trying to disprove their existence. He made perfect sense. |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by HardMirror(m): 9:48am On Oct 01, 2016 |
winner01:So how is hell real? Why fear something imaginary. When I was a little boy I lived in fear of imaginary monsters in the dark. Now I know better. Why live in fear of what is imaginary I ask again 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by winner01(m): 9:49am On Oct 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:There is nothing abhorable about this. Christ made himself a sacrifice for our sins. We make sacrifices everyday of our lives for the things we want to accomplish. It all makes sense. The shedding of the blood of Jesus (God the Son) is the only blood that could take on the sins of the world and thus marked the end of sacrificial animals. It does not need to make sense to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by malvisguy212: 10:03am On Oct 01, 2016 |
Immorttal:All religion talk Good about jesus christ, if you don't subscribe to religion, than focus on what jesus teaches, this is the first step you need to take. Thank you. |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by ValentineMary(m): 10:16am On Oct 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212:I can also say u read it with little understanding. |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by winner01(m): 10:21am On Oct 01, 2016 |
HardMirror:The key word here is "imaginary". You need to have infinite knowledge of all things to make such assertion. As for fear, im at loss on why some atheists emphasize this. I and many other people i know do not talk about hell as much as we talk about heaven. I look forward to heaven, i rarely think about hell talkless of fear it. The Bible itself teaches to fear God and not hell. The fear of God "Yirat Adonai" in the real sense means reverence for ones Creator. Its like saying I fear my father. I take care of him now but i revere him. There are portions of the Bible which reads "and he greately FEARED the Lord". This means serious reverence. Not that he fears the idea of God. The contemporary meaning of fear now is what we cant attribute to scriptures. Fear itself is not a bad motivator. Im yet to see a real student of psychology among you atheists. The other day one tried to explain to johnydon22 how humans are naturally selfish, he was greatly misunderstood, and humans really are. Fear can be a motivator to reach a required goal. Other forms of motivation are wages, promises, promotion etc Many humans fear the law else they will be dancing to the tune of their animalistic desires. Some men want to rape that lady they cant get but for the law, some men want to rob that bank but for the law afterall our leaders are corporate thieves etc. The fear of losing someone might motivate you to engage in an action. Fear might hinder your children from engaging in certain activities because of what daddy and mummy would do if they try it. Fear is a part of our daily motivations. I wonder what all this fuss about fear is. |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by Immorttal: 10:21am On Oct 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212:it will interest you to know that the three religious characters i admire so much are Budha, Jesus, and Confucius. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by HardMirror(m): 10:35am On Oct 01, 2016 |
winner01:Heaven is also imaginary 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by winner01(m): 10:44am On Oct 01, 2016 |
HardMirror:It does not matter what you say. |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by hopefulLandlord: 11:01am On Oct 01, 2016 |
HardMirror:you killed his long rigmarole of a post in one sentence 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by honourhim: 11:06am On Oct 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Heaven is imaginary to you and your cohorts but very real to us. Nothing makes you wiser than us. You atheists have a false sense of seeing yourselves as being more intelligent than us. You can continue to massage your no-god mantra with this false sense . We are not moved. |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by reallest(f): 11:52am On Oct 01, 2016 |
malvisguy212:U can do better dan dis,i said its true ACCORDING TO UR BIBLE |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by reallest(f): 11:53am On Oct 01, 2016 |
honourhim:Dats good for you |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by honourhim: 12:16pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
reallest: Yea God is good. |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by HardMirror(m): 1:43pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
honourhim:What is your evidence that heaven is real 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by HardMirror(m): 1:44pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Lol When u go build ur house 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by HardMirror(m): 1:45pm On Oct 01, 2016 |
winner01:Thought as much no evidence for the imaginary heaven |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by udatso: 12:13pm On Oct 06, 2016 |
malvisguy212:For future reference |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by hopefulLandlord: 7:42pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
HardMirror:soon o! |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by HardMirror(m): 10:38pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:I gbadun this my brother. Baba Landlord in the making |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by hopefulLandlord: 11:01am On Nov 30, 2016 |
HardMirror:Hehehehehehehehe |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by hopefulLandlord: 9:25am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Very insulting |
Re: Attributes Of The Judeo/christian God An Insult To Itself? by oaroloye(m): 1:57pm On Feb 11, 2020 |
MISHIGAS! johnydon22: THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE EVER SAID- IT SAID THAT GOD WAS PLEASED AND SATISFIED BY RIGHTEOUSLY-EXECUTED RITUAL SACRIFICES- BUT DISGUSTED BY UNRIGHTEOUS SACRIFICES- NO MATTER HOW NUMEROUS. johnydon22: chysam: . MATTHEW 15:1-14. THEN came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2. "Why do thy Disciples transgress the Tradition of the Elders? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread." 3. But he answered and Said unto them, "Why do ye also transgress The Commandment of God by your Tradition? 4. "For God Commanded, Saying, 'HONOUR THY FATHER AND MOTHER: AND, HE THAT CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER LET HIM DIE THE DEATH.' 5. "But ye say, 'WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER, "IT IS A GIFT, BY WHATSOEVER THOU MIGHTEST BE PROFITED BY ME;" 6. 'AND HONOUR NOT HIS FATHER OR HIS MOTHER, HE SHALL BE FREE.' Thus have ye made The Commandment of God of none effect by your Tradition. 7. "Ye Hypocrites, well did Esaias Prophesy of you, saying, 8. 'THIS PEOPLE DRAWETH NIGH UNTO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH, AND HONOURETH ME WITH THEIR LIPS; BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 9. 'BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.' " 10. And he called the multitude, and Said unto them, "Hear, and understand: 11. "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." 12. Then came his Disciples, and Said unto him, "Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this Saying?" 13. But he answered and Said, "Every plant, which my Heavenly Father hath not Planted, shall be rooted up. 14. "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." "HELLENISM" HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A BELIEF IN HELL. The term just means "Ancient Greek Culture." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenism_(religion)&hl=en-NG JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE DISTORT THE TRUTH, DUE TO TRADITIONS THEY RECEIVED OR MADE UP, THAT IS NO EXCUSE TO BLASPHEME GOD. johnydon22: Xflint: . 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9. 9. "For The Eyes of The LORD run to and fro throughout the whole Earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is perfect toward Him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.” GOD IS NOT GOING TO STRIKE YOU DOWN, BECAUSE GOD HAS NO REASON TO PERCEIVE YOUR EXISTENCE. This is why the Sacrifices were important. God CANNOT observe people without being a party to their activities. If they are Righteous, He can Reward them; but if they are Sinful, He would have to Punish them. That would usually necessitate summary execution. Therefore, He needs a Signal to tell Him when it is safe for Him to focus His Gaze upon His Worshippers. That would be the smell of the Burnt Offering. pedmet: yeyeboi: . JOB 28:28. 28. "And unto Man He Said, 'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD, THAT IS WISDOM; AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL, IS UNDERSTANDING.' " . JOB 39:13-18. 13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich? 14. "Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust, 15. "And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them. 16. "She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not her's: her labour is in vain without fear; 17. "Because God hath deprived her of Wisdom, neither hath He imparted to her Understanding. 18." What time she lifteth up herself on high, she scorneth the horse and his rider." . PSALM 111:10. 10. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Wisdom: a Good Understanding have all they that do His Commandments: His Praise endureth for ever. . PROVERBS 1:7. 7. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Knowledge: but Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction. johnydon22: fyneboi79: . DEUTERONOMY 19:18-21. 18. If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19. Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the Elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20. And they shall say unto the Elders of his city, "THIS OUR SON IS STUBBORN AND REBELLIOUS, HE WILL NOT OBEY OUR VOICE; HE IS A GLUTTON, AND A DRUNKARD." 21. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put Evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL-BROUGHT UP KNOW THAT IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT CHILDREN TURN CRIMINAL, THEY MUST BE STRIPPED OF ALL FILIAL RIGHTS, AND DISOWNED AS CHILDREN. If your children murdered your next door neighbours' children, how would you "love them all the same," unless you were completely crazy? If some of your many children murdered some of your other children, how would you "love them all the same," unless you were criminally-insane? The Bible makes it clear that GOD is not The Father of Sinners: those are THE DEVIL'S Children. SPIRITUALLY- SPEAKING, your children are those whose VIBRATIONAL PATTERNS FOLLOW YOURS in a peculiarly-intimate way. There are differences between the vibrations of your son, and of the sons of your neighbours, that identify them. Facial Resemblance is just a part of the expression of that. It is an insult for your child to be taken for someone else's child. emmkeffs: johnydon22: . ISAIAH 1:11. 11. "To what purpose is the multitude of your Sacrifices unto me?" Saith The LORD: "I am full of the Burnt Offerings of Rams, and the fat of fed Beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of He-Goats." WOT- NONE OF THE FAKE CHRISTIANS HERE EVER HEARD OF THAT VERSE? . NUMBERS 15:27-31. 27. "And if any man Sin through Ignorance, then he shall bring a She Goat of the first year for a Sin Offering. 28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement for the Soul that Sinneth Ignorantly, when he Sinneth by Ignorance before The LORD, to make an Atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him. 29. " Ye shall have one Law for him that Sinneth Ignorantly (both for) him that is born among the Children of Israel, and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them. 30. "But the Soul that doeth (ought) presumptuously, (whether he be) born in the land, or a Stranger, the same reproacheth The LORD; and that Soul shall be cut off from among his people. 31. "Because he hath despised The Word of The LORD, and hath broken His Commandment, that Soul shall utterly be cut off; his Iniquity (shall be) upon him." SACRIFICES DO NOT APPLY TO DELIBERATELY-COMMITTED SINS! . LEVITICUS 24:10-16. 10. And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian, went out among the Children of Israel: and this son of the Israelitish woman and a Man of Israel strove together in the camp; 11. And the Israelitish woman's son blasphemed The Name of The LORD, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: [and his mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:] 12. And they put him in ward, that the Mind of The LORD might be shewed them. 13. And The LORD Spake unto Moses, Saying, 14. 'Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the Congregation stone him. 15. "And thou shalt speak unto the Children of Israel, saying, 'WHOSOEVER CURSETH HIS GOD SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.' 16. "And he that blasphemeth The Name of The LORD, he shall surely be put to Death, and all the Congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the Stranger,. as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth The Name of The LORD, shall be put to Death." THE FIRST RULE OF FIGHT CLUB IS: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB! The Second Rule of FIGHT CLUB: see Rule 1. The Third Rule of FIGHT CLUB: see Rule 2. Nobody is obliged to explain The Kingdom of God to you. If you are willing to wait until you DIE, to find out that you were wrong, who should care, when your Father and Mother did not? A HEBREW ISRAELITE IS DEDICATED TO GOD AT AGE 13 (Bar/Bat Mitzvah,) AND HAS SEVEN YEARS IN WHICH TO LEARN THE WAY OF GOD, AND ACQUIRE HIS SEVEN SPIRITS OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. It is highly presumptuous for a GENTILE to pick up THE BIBLE, and though they were reading a SCHOOL TEXTBOOK of HISTORY, MYTHOLOGY, SCIENCE, and so on, AND PRESUME to UNDERSTAND It. Whatever you say about The Bible and about YAHWEH GOD determines your ETERNAL DESTINY- so you must be CAREFUL what you SAY. That you "did not know" THE LAW is not an excuse. You see that the son of SHELOMITH found out about the Commandment after he broke it. You are supposed to know about this. Certain things appear to you in a certain way, because of your upbringing and experience. Where your upbringing and experience causes you to break The Commandment of God DOES NOT EXONERATE YOU in the least. NO VERSE OF SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT GOD LOVES OR LOVED THE SMELL OF BURNT FLESH. . DEUTERONOMY 4:1-2. NOW therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you. 2. Ye shall not add unto the Word which I Command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from It, that ye may keep The Commandments of The LORD your God which I Command you. YOU MAY NOT ADD NOR SUBTRACT FROM THE WORD OF GOD, TO MAKE IT SAY WHAT YOU WANT IT TO SAY, WITHOUT PENALTY. King Nebuchadnezzar ordered a furnace heated seven times hotter than normal, in order to incinerate three impertinent Hebrews, who refused to worship his golden image. Not only were they unharmed by the heat- which killed those who threw them into the furnace- not even their clothes were affected by the fire. THERE IS NO VERSE OF SCRIPTURE THAT STATES THAT ANY PART OR ASPECT OF PEOPLE BURN IN HELL FIRE. Unbelievers ASSUME that if a person were put in fire, THE PURPOSE would be to BURN them. BURNING is NOT the Purpose of Hell Fire, but CONTAINMENT. FIRE is a CONDUIT and CONTAINMENT for Spiritual Forces and Entities. Normal Fire can be used to TELEPORT across Universes, or TRANSLATE into Higher Universes. Something about the Fires of HELL prevents those trapped in It from leaving. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] Normal Fire can be used to transmit Sacrifice Information to a Fire-based Spirit Being, who has specified the use of Fire in the Sacrifice. Apparently, Hell Fire cannot even be used for that purpose. "The Rich Man" could not harness Hell Fire to contact his brethren at home. If he could have gotten his hands on some WATER, however, it might have been a different story. The BURNT OFFERING signaled to God that His Worshippers had completed their Purification Rituals and Service Rites. That told Him that it was SAFE to LOOK at them, without risk that He should find anything that He should have to JUDGE AGAINST. THAT is what pleased God, not any appetite for Burning Flesh. It is blasphemous, insulting, presumptuous, and reckless to apply Human Attitudes to God, concerning actions you know little or nothing about. Most Humans cannot go to HELL when they die. Their Souls are destroyed within moments of their death. Those who do the ONE THING REQUIRED for AfterLife Survival are truly dangerous, and NEED to be confined, lest they go on a Destructive Rampage, or hijack the body of a newborn, or something. Whatever God does, He does it for Good and Righteous reasons. If you are not intelligent, wise, nor knowledgeable to understand what they are, you have no Right to blasphemously presume base, animalistic motives to Him.
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