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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:30pm On Oct 09, 2016
raphieMontella:

how does it(the state) connect with atheism?
Thats the question here..remember?
You're still saying what we are saying..kim is kim..
State is state..

Well Kim is a megalomaniacal atheist while North Korea is officially an atheist state


lol...
You said---

a deist can abolish religion...
And i dont see how he imposed ''atheism''...
I need a constitution that says..believe in God and die from kims country....

I am talking of what a system of government can do - abolish religion and impose atheism . I'm not sure why a deist should abolish religion . Deism simply repudiate religious concepts of God , it is inherently intellectual and not fanatical unlike atheism that is inherently violent and fanatical .

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:40pm On Oct 09, 2016
4kings:

What are u trying to get at with this question?

Scroll up to see why
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by raphieMontella: 1:45pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Does Mark Zuckerberg launch polemics and impious attacks on religious people , yes or no ?
not everything has a direct answer...
Are viruses living things or non-living things?
Thats the case...
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:49pm On Oct 09, 2016
raphieMontella:

not everything has a direct answer...
Are viruses living things or non-living things?
Thats the case...

damn , you are good at circumlocution

Does Mark Zuckerberg launch polemics and impious attacks on religious people , yes or no ?

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by CoolUsername: 1:59pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You always rush to Wikipedia without reading the whole package . Honestly bro , stick to discussions on evolution . This must be getting embarrassing for you .


Doesn't ring a bell bro .

North Korea's Kim is clearly an atheist but due to megalomania , he subjects his countrymen to autotheism . Makes sense ?

Autotheism is not atheism. The Juche ideology promotes this. Everyone knows what is actually practised in that country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by raphieMontella: 2:05pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Well Kim is a megalomaniacal atheist while North Korea is officially an atheist state
okay...therefore
the achievement of the egyptians which influenced modern day are atheistic inventions...
Case closed..




I am talking of what a system of government can do - abolish religion and impose atheism
whats the name of such a system of government?

. I'm not sure why a deist should abolish religion .
why then would an atheist abolish religion?
They both dont suscribe to the fairytales remember?
[/quote]
Deism simply repudiate religious concepts of God ,[/quote]
atheism - /ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/ noun 1. disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God
or gods.



it is inherently intellectual and not fanatical unlike atheism christianity that is inherently violent and fanatical .
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by raphieMontella: 2:07pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


damn , you are good at circumlocution

Does Mark Zuckerberg launch polemics and impious attacks on religious people , yes or no ?

if you can give me a direct answer to viruses...
The case will be answered/proven
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:32pm On Oct 09, 2016
CoolUsername:


Autotheism is not atheism. The Juche ideology promotes this. Everyone knows what is actually practised in that country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

I never said autotheism was atheism . And everyone knows that North Korea is an atheist state .

And autotheism makes no sense . As regards to my signature , am I an autotheist ?

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by honourhim: 3:23pm On Oct 09, 2016
Seun:



Such countries probably got developed in spite of religion and not because of it. Can you name some of them?

Atleast you ve admitted that religion did not stop them from developing. But here you believe that religion is what is holding Nigeria down. Too bad.

Many religious people in Nigeria have excelled tremendously in their various careers and have impacted positively in the country. Religion didnt stop them from excelling yet Seun believes that religion is our problem.
Pretend you don't know the role missionary schools played in Nigeria in times past. Keep pretending and continue to hate christianity.

Christianity is not against development. Jesus made it clear that we should give to Ceasar what belongs to him and to God what belongs to him.

Christianity is against stealing so those who stole our money are not doing it under any religious influence. When zacheous met Jesus his life was tranformed hence he promised to return his stolen money to the owners. That's christianity. You just hate religion (especially christianity). You know the problem of Nigeria but your hatred made you push the blame on religion. Too bad.

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by felixomor: 3:35pm On Oct 09, 2016
honourhim:


Atleast you ve admitted that religion did not stop them from developing. But here you believe that religion is what is holding Nigeria down. Too bad.

Many religious people in Nigeria have excelled tremendously in their various careers and have impacted positively in the country. Religion didnt stop them from excelling yet Seun believes that religion is our problem.
Pretend you don't know the role missionary schools played in Nigeria in times past. Keep pretending and continue to hate christianity.

Christianity is not against development. Jesus made it clear that we should give to Ceasar what belongs to him and to God what belongs to him.

Christianity is against stealing so those who stole our money are not doing it under any religious influence. When zacheous met Jesus his life was tranformed hence he promised to return his stolen money to the owners. That's christianity. You just hate religion (especially christianity). You know the problem of Nigeria but your hatred made you push the blame on religion. Too bad.

Well said!

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by CoolUsername: 3:48pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I never said autotheism was atheism . And everyone knows that North Korea is an atheist state .

And autotheism makes no sense . As regards to my signature , am I an autotheist ?


You said that you are a god based on the specific dogma of your religion. An atheist can call him/her self a god in the sense that they believe that they are largely in control of their fate.

Once a man starts calling in himself a god over a set of people and begins to attribute unrealistic grandeur to himself, he becomes an autotheist. That's what has been happening in North Korea.

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:54pm On Oct 09, 2016
CoolUsername:


You said that you are a god based on the specific dogma of your religion. An atheist can call him/her self a god in the sense that they believe that they are largely in control of their fate.


Once a man starts calling in himself a god over a set of people and begins to attribute unrealistic grandeur to himself, he becomes an autotheist. That's what has been happening in North Korea.

@ Emboldened text

Read the first paragraph of the link you posted to me .

And answer correctly , Did Kim tell North Koreans that he controls their fate ?

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by EyeHateGod: 3:54pm On Oct 09, 2016
CoolUsername:


You said that you are a god based on the specific dogma of your religion. An atheist can call him/her self a god in the sense that they believe that they are largely in control of their fate.

Once a man starts calling in himself a god over a set of people and begins to attribute unrealistic grandeur to himself, he becomes an autotheist. That's what has been happening in North Korea.
U Know how to play the game well done. grin
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:59pm On Oct 09, 2016
EyeHateGod:

U Know how to play the game well done. grin

Let's see who wins this game smiley

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by CoolUsername: 5:46pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


@ Emboldened text

Read the first paragraph of the link you posted to me .

And answer correctly , Did Kim tell North Koreans that he controls their fate ?

See Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism in the Wikipedia entry for Juche. Also check out the 'Great Leader' theory.

I'll call you're attention to this passage in the entry:

The Great Leader is also a flawless human being, who never commits mistakes, who is always benevolent, and who always rules for the masses. The leader is incorruptible. For the Great Leader system to function, a unitary ideological system has to be in place.

You can read it yourself. This is clearly a system of raising the North Korean leader to godhood.
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:53pm On Oct 09, 2016
CoolUsername:


See Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism in the Wikipedia entry for Juche. Also check out the 'Great Leader' theory.

I'll call you're attention to this passage in the entry:

The Great Leader is also a flawless human being, who never commits mistakes, who is always benevolent, and who always rules for the masses. The leader is incorruptible. For the Great Leader system to function, a unitary ideological system has to be in place.

You can read it yourself. This is clearly a system of raising the North Korean leader to godhood.

Mister , you didnt answer my question

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by CoolUsername: 6:50pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Mister , you didnt answer my question

Ok, for your lazy, lazy ass. smiley

However, for the masses to be successful, they need a "Great Leader". [37]Marxism–Leninism argues that the popular masses will lead (on the basis of their relation to production); in North Korea, the role of a Great Leader should be essential for leadership.

The theory turns the Great Leader into an absolutist, supreme leader. [39]The working classis not to think for themselves, but instead to think through the Great Leader.

If only you'd actually looked up the things I told you to.
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:02pm On Oct 09, 2016
CoolUsername:


Ok, for your lazy, lazy ass. smiley

However, for the masses to be successful, they need a "Great Leader". [37]Marxism–Leninism argues that the popular masses will lead (on the basis of their relation to production); in North Korea, the role of a Great Leader should be essential for leadership.

The theory turns the Great Leader into an absolutist, supreme leader. [39]The working classis not to think for themselves, but instead to think through the Great Leader.

If only you'd actually looked up the things I told you to.

Jusche is a political ideology and' being successful' there is as regards to production ,

The North Koreans are taught that they are they are the masters of their own destiny - they control what they'll become or how their own lives will turn out to be not their Great Leader .

According to wikipedia :

Juche (Chosŏn'gŭl: 주체; hancha: 主體; MR: Chuch'e; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]), usually translated as "self-reliance", is the official political ideology of North Korea, described by the regime as Kim Il-sung's "original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought" .It claims that an individual is "the master of his destiny" and that the North Korean masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction".

Also note that Juche ideology, which is itself based on Marxist materialism - this means that the basic principles of North Korean socialism are strongly opposed to and incompatible with religious beliefs. That explains their religious intolerance and why North Korea is referred to as an atheist state .

In an atheist state , public religion is discouraged , there is no freedom of religion . Plus political religion should not be confused for state religion or the practice of religion itself .

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by CoolUsername: 7:16pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Jusche is a political ideology and' being successful' refers to production

The North Koreans are taught that they are they are the masters of their own destiny - they control what they'll become or how their own lives will turn out to be not their Great Leader .

According to wikipedia :

Juche (Chosŏn'gŭl: 주체; hancha: 主體; MR: Chuch'e; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]), usually translated as "self-reliance", is the official political ideology of North Korea, described by the regime as Kim Il-sung's "original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought" .It claims that an individual is "the master of his destiny" and that the North Korean masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction".

It is defined as self-reliance the way North Korea is officially known as the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea when we all know it is actually the Tyrannical Dictatorship of Villainy. Or like how Islam is the Religion of Peace (no Islamo.)

The ideology may mean self-reliance on paper but in actuality, is practised with strict dogmatic beliefs and autotheistic propaganda in favour of the leadership position.

How can you be the master of your own fate when you have to think through a 'Great Leader'?

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:28pm On Oct 09, 2016
@ CoolUsername

I modified the post .

Read through thoroughly .

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by felixomor: 7:31pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Jusche is a political ideology and' being successful' there is as regards to production ,

The North Koreans are taught that they are they are the masters of their own destiny - they control what they'll become or how their own lives will turn out to be not their Great Leader .

According to wikipedia :

Juche (Chosŏn'gŭl: 주체; hancha: 主體; MR: Chuch'e; Korean pronunciation: [tɕutɕʰe]), usually translated as "self-reliance", is the official political ideology of North Korea, described by the regime as Kim Il-sung's "original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought" .It claims that an individual is "the master of his destiny" and that the North Korean masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction".

Also note that Juche ideology, which is itself based on Marxist materialism - this means that the basic principles of North Korean socialism are strongly opposed to and incompatible with religious beliefs. That explains their religious intolerance and why North Korea is referred to as an atheist state .

In an atheist state , public religion is discouraged , there is no freedom of religion . Plus political religion should not be confused for state religion or the practice of religion itself .

Just leave the guy to his plenty grammar.

I just reviewed atheists states here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Allow him to continue to try to twist the obvious.

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:38pm On Oct 09, 2016
felixomor:


Just leave the guy to his plenty grammar.

I just reviewed atheists states here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Allow him to continue to try to twist the obvious.


No mind am . grin grin

Atheists don't want to accept North Korea is an atheist state when its stated clearly in every credible source grin

Let's hope he does not abandon the thread grin

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:56pm On Oct 09, 2016
CoolUsername:


Even for you, this is a rather simple-minded response.

A National anthem is supposed to be an all-inclusive method to strip away individual differences between the people to highlight one uniting factor: Our nationality. This little phrase in the anthem reveals the intolerance of the majority to the irreligious minority. The discrimination is on a fundamental level. That's why people get angry at our dissenting opinions without ever trying to understand where we are coming from.

Historically, MLK was called an extremist and a militant in how he went about things. Today he's a hero. Now, don't get me wrong, atheists in Nigeria aren't going through half of what blacks went through back then but discrimination is not a competition. As long as it exists, something should be done about it.

When I'm 70, I'll like to live in a Nigeria where everyone is treated equally. Atheists won't have to hide. Same-sex marriage is legal. Sharia Law isn't applied to minors, etc. By pointing out the flaws in religion, I hope to show people that their beliefs are not absolutes, in order to inspire tolerance in the future.

It would be nice to know that I helped to drive positive change. Anybody who said that atheists shouldn't speak out is not helping to drive positive change in this area.

What about bestiality and incest , should those be legalized too ?
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by CoolUsername: 9:44pm On Oct 09, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


What about bestiality and incest , should those be legalized too ?

Bestiality is animal cruelty. Incest causes the problem of less than fit offspring, it also leads to the small problem of children being groomed by perverted guardians.
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by chubbyswit(m): 10:33pm On Oct 09, 2016
raphieMontella:

not everything has a direct answer...
Are viruses living things or non-living things?
Thats the case...
guy quit acting foolish and answer a simple yes or no, jeezzzz!

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by felixomor: 10:46pm On Oct 09, 2016
chubbyswit:
guy quit acting foolish and answer a simple yes or no, jeezzzz!

Ok, u sef have confirmed the guy.
cheesy
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by Marvel1206: 11:44pm On Oct 09, 2016
aaronson:
You mean we can't go a day without badly destroying your illusion.

Well we don't waste time discussing God rather, we invest our time and knowledge to teach people like you that there is 'LIE' in the middle of 'BELIEF' and we also want you guys to connect the ducts and find it out yourself otherwise Africa as a continent would remain backward.

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by raphieMontella: 11:47pm On Oct 09, 2016
chubbyswit:
guy quit acting foolish and answer a simple yes or no, jeezzzz!
like all questions have simple answers...
Ride on!
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by chubbyswit(m): 5:08pm On Oct 10, 2016
raphieMontella:

like all questions have simple answers...
Ride on!
what're u talking about my friend? D Yes or no question was a simple question which required a simple answer
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by chubbyswit(m): 5:12pm On Oct 10, 2016
felixomor:


Ok, u sef have confirmed the guy.
cheesy
my brother d way d guy is just dodging a simple question is just too annoying and pathetic.

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Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by raphieMontella: 5:12pm On Oct 10, 2016
chubbyswit:
what're u talking about my friend? D Yes or no question was a simple question which required a simple answer
are viruses living or non living things?

The question has a straight answer to you...but not to me
Re: Nairaland Atheists Can't Go A Day Without Talking About The Loving God. by chubbyswit(m): 5:12pm On Oct 10, 2016
felixomor:


Ok, u sef have confirmed the guy.
cheesy
my brother d way d guy is dodging a simple question is just too annoying and pathetic.

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