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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Firefire(m): 8:45am On Oct 13, 2016
hardbody:


These steps that appear boring now are the same blocks upon which the judges will build their defence and then you will all come here, speaking from a point of ignorance to castigate the trial judges as being inept and the ones creating stumbling blocks and throwing spanners on the path of justice.

Have you really wondered why no convictions have been recorded by the EFCC? It is because they approach these things in a knee jerk manner and then get stuck in the middle. Can't we try and get it right for once?

In the era of media trial, persecution and judgement, nothing meaningful can be achieved.
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by gigabyte13: 8:45am On Oct 13, 2016
Sir, the CJN is a toothless bulldog when it comes to the fight against corruption. The two compulsory retired judges where retired because of 200 Million bribe and the useless CJN recommend retirement without prosecution. Does that show that, they support the fight against corruption





Nigeria judicial system is a big time scam. It is simply justice to the highest bidder. Imagine a lawyer in our area telling the guys to steal big before seeking his service instead of calling on him for petty stealing.





From that day, l knew that without the full coorperation of the judiciary, fight against corruption is a mere lip service.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by kingphilip(m): 8:46am On Oct 13, 2016
Pierocash:
Rubbish post!they wrote several letters to NJC whc they refuse to honour.
On d issue of disciplinary measures.is this Illegal luminary telling us that Judges can't be arrested because they are Judges.Is as gud as saying Medical Doctors can't be arrested because NMA are the ones to discipline erring doctors.Military personels are been arrested by police and DSS and arraigned before a magistrate nt to talk of a bloody corrupt civilian.
NJC can only discipline on matters that are plainly on ethics of d profession and Dss can arrest and interogate a judge on matters partaining to crime.
and what crime do they commit

Don't tell me financial crime because it's not under the purview of dss to handle that
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by 989900: 8:46am On Oct 13, 2016
Firefire:



See reasoning? embarassed undecided

People largely speak from the angle that suits their interests. #factoflife

DSS already indicated this borders on national security -- Baba Afe is entitled to his opinion though.
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Firefire(m): 8:50am On Oct 13, 2016
989900:


People largely speak from the angle that suits their interests. #factoflife

DSS already indicated this borders on national security -- Baba Afe is entitled to his opinion though.


Sometimes we need to be objective when speaking from the angle that suits our interest.

Let not forget that power can be abused, including the aspect of precedent and posterity.

Thank you.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by eph12(m): 8:51am On Oct 13, 2016
Pierocash:
Rubbish post!they wrote several letters to NJC whc they refuse to honour.
On d issue of disciplinary measures.is this Illegal luminary telling us that Judges can't be arrested because they are Judges.Is as gud as saying Medical Doctors can't be arrested because NMA are the ones to discipline erring doctors.Military personels are been arrested by police and DSS and arraigned before a magistrate nt to talk of a bloody corrupt civilian.
NJC can only discipline on matters that are plainly on ethics of d profession and Dss can arrest and interogate a judge on matters partaining to crime.
Is that why the arraignment of those judges have been put off indefinitely?
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Kenobus: 8:51am On Oct 13, 2016
jeffizy:
The justification or otherwise of this particular case is becoming boring.
Let's move from horse trading to trials. If found guilty, convict them and we move to the next one.
Imagine trying a Judge in a magistrate court. I just tire.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Sappyman(m): 8:54am On Oct 13, 2016
What is Afe Babalola saying. How did he get money to build his school. Same way I guess.
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by anonimi: 8:56am On Oct 13, 2016
JumiR:
Legal luminary Chief Afe Babalola (SAN) has said it was wrong for the Department of State Services(DSS) to take over Police duties, while decrying the method the security agency used in arresting judges over alleged corruption. Speaking during the foundation-laying ceremony of the new Ekiti State High Court at the Judiciary Headquarters, Fajuyi, Ado Ekiti, the state capital, Babalola said: “I am very sad about the attack on judges when they are not common criminals, they have not run outside the country. The following day, you released them on bail, why did you harass their families?

“It is a trite law that process of the court can’t be served after 7pm. Even if the DSS had the arrest warrant, they should not have gone on midnight raid of the houses of the judges. “The NJC has the power to promote, appoint and discipline judges, this was done to ensure independence of that arm. So, I expect them to have approached the NJC. How can you a[b]rrest a sitting Supreme Court judges and took him to magistrate court for trial?[/b] That could only be done after they have been removed. If these people have facts that they are corrupt, they should approach the Judicial Council. How can you arrest a sitting judge and hand him over to a magistrate to try him? Anywhere in the world, you don’t try a sitting judge; you first remove him from office before taking him to court. If you catch a masquerade, you first take the regalia off him.”

http://dawntodusknews.com/afe-babalola-speaks-arrest-judges/

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by JAHseal: 8:56am On Oct 13, 2016
Jirate:


But why is it difficult for you to understand what the SAN is saying, Follow Due Process. Simple, Any other way will meet a dead End.
To use your Example, if a Police man shoot a Judge dead, his colleagues will arrest him, Dismiss Him from the service First, before taking him to Court for Trails.

Good! So allow d DSS arrest, tender d evidence(s) 2 d NJC for their subsequent dismissal so dey could be prosecuted. Can dia be prosecution without any evidence linking d accused 2 d alleged crime? Abi na d NJC go arrest & prosecute dem? My pple, mek we allow 9jah forge ahead o. #haba
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by sucess001(m): 8:56am On Oct 13, 2016
pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

yes i agree its screwed cos of comments like yours.


this guy has made a valid point and u cant open ur head enuf to process it...


and why is there no case against the judges?

so all the arrest was just to harrass them...no evidence to make a case against them...


i wish the FG luck in getting any case won before other judges

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Unimaginable123: 8:56am On Oct 13, 2016
jeffizy:
The justification or otherwise of this particular case is becoming boring.
Let's move from horse trading to trials. If found guilty, convict them and we move to the next one.
so a magistrate court should try a sitting supreme Court judge?

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by pedel: 8:57am On Oct 13, 2016
Firefire:

Have you heard the story from the angle of NJC?
Nigerians and one-sided judgement.

I have read everything that is available.
The only thing the NJC haven't said is the section of the law which the DSS broke or violated.

What you admire and support come towards you: law of attraction.

I hate injustice and corruption.
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Omeokachie: 8:58am On Oct 13, 2016
Not listening to wise councel makes the fly to follow the corpse into the grave.

I hope the ear infected president listens.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by worlexy(m): 8:59am On Oct 13, 2016
pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.
Learn to read with the intent to understand, not with the intent to comment
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by anonimi: 8:59am On Oct 13, 2016
Firefire:
Sometimes we need to be objective when speaking from the angle that suits our interest.

Let not forget that power can be abused, including the aspect of precedent and posterity.

Thank you.

Thank you for highlighting how we can easily slide back into retrogressive DICTATORSHIP.







anonimi:



Enabling Act of 1933

The Enabling Act (German: Ermächtigungsgesetz) was a 1933 Weimar Constitution amendment that gave the German Cabinet – in effect, Chancellor Adolf Hitler – the power to enact laws without the involvement of the Reichstag. It passed in both the Reichstag and Reichsrat on 24 March 1933, and was signed by President Paul von Hindenburg later that day. The act stated that it was to last four years unless renewed by the Reichstag, which occurred twice. The Enabling Act gave Hitler plenary powers. It followed on the heels of the Reichstag Fire Decree, which abolished most civil liberties and transferred state powers to the Reich government. The combined effect of the two laws was to transform Hitler's government into a de facto legal dictatorship.

The formal name of the Enabling Act was Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich ("Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Reich". It was enacted by the Reichstag (meeting at the Kroll Opera House), where non-Nazi members were surrounded and threatened by members of SA and SS. The Communists had already been repressed and were not able to vote, and some Social Democrats were kept away as well. In the end, nearly all of those present voted for the act, except for the Social Democrats, who voted against it.

More from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933


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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by muazuk1(m): 9:03am On Oct 13, 2016
NO LAW was broken in respect to the arrest of the judges.. GBAM.. it is wen sometin is against d law dat a debate of this kind is considerable..
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by oyetpel(m): 9:03am On Oct 13, 2016
Jirate:


But why is it difficult for you to understand what the SAN is saying, Follow Due Process. Simple, Any other way will meet a dead End.
To use your Example, if a Police man shoot a Judge dead, his colleagues will arrest him, Dismiss Him from the service First, before taking him to Court for Trails.
Your example ia shIt, hope you know that. And the manner in which the DSS operated was a good process.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Surfboard(m): 9:03am On Oct 13, 2016
pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

Did you read? He said standard procedure is for the Judge to be removed first by the NJC and then prosecuted. They can't go from arrest to prosecution. Think about it, who will respect a judge who was in the dock in the morning and then presiding over a matter in the afternoon?

Baba Afe has spoken my mind and honestly, that has been my position from the beginning.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Manspeaks(m): 9:04am On Oct 13, 2016
pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

Why is it so difficult to understand simple communication such as this? They are not referring to any other crimes by the judges but a specific case of corruption, and the manner in which they were arrested. If a judge kills his neighbour even a four years old baby knows that the judge can be charged. But note that out of illegality nothing legal can come out.
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Donshegxy10(m): 9:05am On Oct 13, 2016
it seems afe babalola Esq did not read the release from the dss which state that the NJC was not cooperating since February , or is that too hard to comprehend, its obvious that these big barristers are the ones corrupting this judiciary.
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by neocortex: 9:05am On Oct 13, 2016
sincerlyyo:


what happens to innocent until found guilty? I think it's wrong to dismiss before trial. You have already found him guilty by that dismissal.

It is not a matter of what you feel, it is the "due process" that matters.
A sitting judge or police should be suspended/dismissed before trial, if the case
favours the accused then he/she can be reinstated.

Innocent until proven guilty applies to how the court views the suspect not the
process leading to the arraignment which depends on a lot of factors.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by pedel: 9:07am On Oct 13, 2016
sucess001:

yes i agree its screwed cos of comments like yours.
this guy has made a valid point and u cant open ur head enuf to process it...
and why is there no case against the judges?
so all the arrest was just to harrass them...no evidence to make a case against them...
i wish the FG luck in getting any case won before other judges

Bros, stop playing games and chatting with your phone. Try and be reading educative contents online. It help to improve your understanding and point of views. It's God's advice that you lean not on your own understanding. Proverbs 3:5

The case against them were not dropped. Two more judges were arrested yesterday.

When you read that the cases were dropped it's to tell you that some people are pressurising or blackmailing the FG not to move forward.

For you to even mention that the FG won't win any cases in the future because judges were arrested proves that your thinking is infantile.

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Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by TheRealestGuy(m): 9:08am On Oct 13, 2016
989900:
He must have bribed a judge, maybe. This is a man I know personally, and have so much respect for. sad
A thoroughly learned fellow speaks and instead of you to learn you still look for a way to cast aspersions at him? To drag him down to your mud slinging?

Gosh! Can zombies ever learn?!!!
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by pedel: 9:08am On Oct 13, 2016
neocortex:


It is not a matter of what you feel, it is the "due process" that matters.
A sitting judge or police should be suspended/dismissed before trial, if the case
favours the accused then he/she can be reinstated.

Innocent until proven guilty applies to how the court views the suspect not the
process leading to the arraignment which depends on a lot of factors.

They still have to be arrested first.
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Manspeaks(m): 9:10am On Oct 13, 2016
pedel:



I hate injustice and corruption.

It is obvious you do not understand what justice/injustice entails...it is not thinking with your heart but with your head!
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by TheRealestGuy(m): 9:12am On Oct 13, 2016
So many fools on this thread. They probably read but couldn't even understand what the learned fellow is saying.

Most of the fools are zombies though, so no surprises there, they are wired to blindly support this flailing government...
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by omonnakoda: 9:12am On Oct 13, 2016
jumobi1:
Why can't a sitting Judge be arrested if there's probable cause? I'll agree with referring the matter to the NJC if the infraction was within the scope of the Justices' duties but taking bribe isn't. Replace the Justices with an Acting Justice and try them. The judiciary arm can't always police themselves. What recourse exists if the whole judiciary is corrupt? I'm with the DSS on this one.
Why can't every single Judge in the Supreme Court be arrested on the same day if there is probable cause? Indeed not only the Supreme Court but the Court of Appeal. The answer is there is no reason but if we go down that road we are going down a very dangerous road.
It is and cannot be a a purely legal question especially when we are talking of more than one judge at the same time.That could trigger a political crisis. For one judge maybe though I would still have preferred the EFCC or police, anything over one judge at the same time seems live some kind of campaign or crusade. Breaking down doors in the middle of the night. That is totally unacceptable
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by Dee60: 9:15am On Oct 13, 2016
Scrap the SAN. It is the platform for some of the corruption going on!
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by 989900: 9:15am On Oct 13, 2016
TheRealestGuy:
[s]A thoroughly learned fellow speaks and instead of you to learn you still look for a way to cast aspersions at him? To drag him down to your mud slinging?

Gosh! Can zombies ever learn?!!![/s]
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by gmaribel(m): 9:17am On Oct 13, 2016
[quote author=JumiR post=50152388]

“If these people have facts that they are corrupt, they should approach the Judicial Council. How can you arrest a sitting judge and hand him over to a magistrate to try him? Anywhere in the world, you don’t try a sitting judge; you first remove him from office before taking him to court. If you catch a masquerade, you first take the regalia off him.”


The DSS is just like a man carrying out jungle justice on a suspected thief becase he lacks confidence in the police and the process it will take to bring the thief to book.

If they(DSS) have facts follow due process report to the NJC.

Yes they may be frustrated at the process for getting things done but aren't we all?

Why not put send a bill to the national assembly to change the law for corruption cases?

"Though the mills of Justice grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small"
Re: Afe Babalola Speaks On Arrest Of Judges by bigerboy200: 9:18am On Oct 13, 2016
hardbody:


These steps that appear boring now are the same blocks upon which the judges will build their defence and then you will all come here, speaking from a point of ignorance to castigate the trial judges as being inept and the ones creating stumbling blocks and throwing spanners on the path of justice.

Have you really wondered why no convictions have been recorded by the EFCC? It is because they approach these things in a knee jerk manner and then get stuck in the middle. Can't we try and get it right for once?
Forget about convictions of corrupt politicians for now..The judiciary is damn screwed and a few millions to the judges will swing the case In their favour....remember Igbinedion, Ibori ' s case?

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