frisky2good:
Not only a judge. Even policemen have to face orderly room trial before being taken to court. Erring soldiers face court martial before being taaken to court. You can never get a conviction against a serving military officer in any law court. The law is the law.

jumobi1:


Yes you can. Court martial applies when it's the violation of military law that is at issue or if the offense occurred within the scope of military duty.

frisky2good:
Not only a judge. Even policemen have to face orderly room trial before being taken to court. Erring soldiers face court martial before being taaken to court. You can never get a conviction against a serving military officer in any law court. The law is the law.

pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

frisky2good:
Can you charge a soldier to court for "illegal possession of fire arms" even if you catch him illegal weapons?

prodigy97:
same way you can't arrest a sitting president irrespective of his crime unless he is impeached

pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

Jirate:


But why is it difficult for you to understand what the SAN is saying, Follow Due Process. Simple, Any other way will meet a dead End.
To use your Example, if a Police man shoot a Judge dead, his colleagues will arrest him, Dismiss Him from the service First, before taking him to Court for Trial.
The NJC must dismiss them first before they can be Brought before another Judge and tried like any common offender.
What Buhari has done now is Putting the Cart before the Horse, it doesn't work that way.

frisky2good:
Can you charge a soldier to court for "illegal possession of fire arms" even if you catch him illegal weapons?

Jirate:


But why is it difficult for you to understand what the SAN is saying, Follow Due Process. Simple, Any other way will meet a dead End.
To use your Example, if a Police man shoot a Judge dead, his colleagues will arrest him, Dismiss Him from the service First, before taking him to Court for Trails.

omonnakoda:
I do not think it is a purely legal issue there is a political dimension meaning that government must consider the effect on the image of the Supreme Court.its relatioship with the Executive and the international perception of the country.If a judge shoots someone ,is an extreme and unusual example,let us stick to the case at hand.If the Chief of Army staff is to be arrested or charged how is it managed .What about the wife of the president how is it to be managed.
If we focus only on the legal and not the political we ignore the danger that precedents set.

Let me give you another extreme scenario. Based on the Logic of legality.There is nothing stopping in one day the arrest of EVERY SINGLE JUDGE in the Supreme Court. If we accept that as reasonable the the Executive may find that to be a reasonable course of action just as the court is about to rule on a crucial election matter or impeachment matter even one involving the presidency.

Now the judges have still not been charged to court so we need to know why the DSS and not the police or EFCC and why was it necessary to break down doors with hammers in the middle of the night.
Can the Chief of Army Staff or any of his wives doors be broken down in such a manner.
It is impossible not to interpret this action as an attempt to intimidate the judiciary.
I do not subscirbe to the argument that the NJC must sanction arrests. My issue is that in such a matter the President as CIC should have been involved in managing the arrest in consultation with the Chief Judge and The Senate Whether it is for allegation of corruption or even coup plotting.

It is a different matter if it is one judge when it is several we need to be very very careful otherwise we are laying the ground for a president to arrest the entire Supreme Court (no law against that) as a prelude to replacing them with his people

prodigy97:
same way you can't arrest a sitting president irrespective of his crime unless he is impeached

prodigy97:
same way you can't arrest a sitting president irrespective of his crime unless he is impeached

femarse:


there is one thing I want you to understand extreme situation needs extreme measure
the case of FIFA for example for years those bleep head was untouchable sanctioning any country that involves govt in football yet deep in FIFA was the highest possible corruption yet the fifa commission for investigating and disciplinary committee was receiving salary every month doing nothing despite the huge petition written to them and dollars keep exchanging hands but unknown to them they were already under watch and if u notice FIFA executive committee can never hold any type of meeting in the US or UK it's always in Russia or most of this African or Caribbean or asia countries where they know there safety is guarantee well until one morning they clamp together for a meeting as usual and viola they were all arrested without notice or any thing whatsoever why? because the legal way to do that wouldn't have worked because the corruption is deep rooted the same way NJC will never tried any judge no matter the level of petition written to them because the corruption started from NJC from the onset appointment and recommendation of judges started from NJC so also is the corruption money exchange hands
or u want to tell me all this judges have been perfect all this while ? and no single person has written a petition against them ? yet none of them have evert been tried or dismis for any type of misconduct why? because both the disciplinary and the sturbon goat eat from the same pot that is why they are not afraid they feel untouchable only way out of it is massive clamp down one that will let others knows that it's not business as usual and every one is been watch
which is what is needed in this country
efcc and the rest are trying to bring all corrupt officials to book but these judges are why criminals are working the street as governor and senator and making the effort of the anti graft agency useless

Pierocash:
Rubbish post!they wrote several letters to NJC whc they refuse to honour.
On d issue of disciplinary measures.is this Illegal luminary telling us that Judges can't be arrested because they are Judges.Is as gud as saying Medical Doctors can't be arrested because NMA are the ones to discipline erring doctors.Military personels are been arrested by police and DSS and arraigned before a magistrate nt to talk of a bloody corrupt civilian.
NJC can only discipline on matters that are plainly on ethics of d profession and Dss can arrest and interogate a judge on matters partaining to crime.

pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

Jirate:


But why is it difficult for you to understand what the SAN is saying, Follow Due Process. Simple, Any other way will meet a dead End.
To use your Example, if a Police man shoot a Judge dead, his colleagues will arrest him, Dismiss Him from the service First, before taking him to Court for Trial.
The NJC must dismiss them first before they can be Brought before another Judge and tried like any common offender.
What Buhari has done now is Putting the Cart before the Horse, it doesn't work that way.

pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

shuggah:

olodo so doctors represent any arm of government??

ebenholer:

My brother, an experienced lawyer is telling u d truth. You cant break law in order to make law. DSS's head suppose to be arrested and prosecuted. Even order from above that gave them go ahead should be questioned. It is annoying such is coming through this respected government.

efficiencie:


Na your Olodo big pass...If a sitting judge rapes your mother right in front of your family and you have some evidence to that effect you will advocate rule of law abi or what is that nonsense you guys call it again 'due process'...Nonsense!

shuggah:

i guess they raped ur mother for you to b yabbing mouth.

pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

pedel:
So if a Supreme Court judge commits felony he can't be charged to court?

Let's say a Supreme Court judge shot his gate man dead in the middle of the night and the neighbours call the police, does it mean the judge can't be arrested and charge for murder?

This country is definitely screwd.

Sibrah:
Our legal people are big problem. See all of them quoting silly laws. Diezani who has eloped to UK today is practically unreachable due to laws formulated and influenced by same class of people being investigated.

Jirate:


But why is it difficult for you to understand what the SAN is saying, Follow Due Process. Simple, Any other way will meet a dead End.
To use your Example, if a Police man shoot a Judge dead, his colleagues will arrest him, Dismiss Him from the service First, before taking him to Court for Trial.
The NJC must dismiss them first before they can be Brought before another Judge and tried like any common offender.
What Buhari has done now is Putting the Cart before the Horse, it doesn't work that way.

adconline:

What a display of sophisticated ignorance. Why do we have courts to determine who is guilty or not? So it's the public that determines who's guilty? Afe Babalola is an authority in this field and he said that judges should be sacked before prosecution. But folks like you can never get it, no wonder DSS and EFCC record low convictions.

omonnakoda:
So why pretend to be a democracy? Since we are in extremis. Why not just overthrow the government and declare military rule.The extreme situation is restricted not only to the judiciary? So I do not understand your logic? Is Buhari himself clean? Is his Cabinet clean? Where does the mandate and authority to act extremely come from? Is the kidnapping situation and the Fulani herdsmen problem not extreme enough?
You see I am not one of those who is taking sides on this issue.I focus on the endgame not the opening. After all the excitement how will it end that is what interest me. Buhari's antecedents over the last 15 months does not inspire we with confidence to grant him EXTREME powers.
Now the judges were arrested and they have been released? So what has been achieved? Buhari had his period of extreme measures in 1984 and 1985 when he was jailing people for 200 years what did that achieve. There is a problem that can be solved in a more cerebral way with the achievement of conviction and jailing of corrupt judges.This is just sensationalism without thought and without a plan. In 12 months he has not achieved a single noteworthy conviction rather he has been announcing this and that.
This sort of extreme measure will only excite kids. I can never support a lynching because it does not develop rather it destroys. A beheading is never the cure for a headache no matter how extreme that is madness!!