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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by bayelsaowei(m): 6:00am On Oct 13, 2016
How did osinbajo make his own money??...
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by rusher14: 6:01am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

What is a crime in having huge lodgement? From what is been peddled about the DSS has nothing concrete on this judges. It is not a crime for someone to have huge lodgements or for them not to have touched their salaries for a very long time.

I am sure most of these Judges have other investments like so many other Nigerians.Who relies on just one source of income in this country?

Their CCB assets declaration forms and affidavits would determine that not your online rant.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:02am On Oct 13, 2016
modath:


Bros, you see what we say about comprehension? You are off the mark!!! Totally..... I asked for specifics since you are speaking for people who earn between 10-15m annually but have "huge lodgements" touching hundreds of millions...

Not "there are lots of businesses", you should know what the judges do exactly since you are privy to the bountiful pay off investments they are into as their advocate, no be so?





Settled with 5m and worth hundreds of millions doing nothing special from what others are doing..... of course, e easy nah, but no one is in the dark about the specific "side businesses" they engage in that gives such stupendous returns... that isn't commensurate to what the investment is all about, but it's too early to go into that!!! All na hardwork! Make we leave am like that for now. smiley

*mic drop* BYE!!
My dear people are making legitimate money in this country. Even in this recession, some businessmen will tell you this year has been their best year.Some people are naturally business savvy.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:02am On Oct 13, 2016
rusher14:


Their CCB assets declaration forms and affidavits would determine that not your online rant.
The courts Will decide who is corrupt and not the DSS or Sahara reporters

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by rusher14: 6:04am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

Some of these men have been doing law for decades !!! There are lots of business you can start with even less than N10million and become a millionaire in less than 10 years.

Go and ask some of these Igbo's in ladipo and alaba how much they were settled by their bosses.I bet you none of them will tell you anything close to N5m and yet today some of them are worth hundreds of millions

We know they make more money than Nigeria Breweries and the banks put together so do the judges who have served in their shops.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Aristo3146(m): 6:06am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

Since when did it become a crime to keep money at home or to own property? You people should be smarter thsn this!!!Osinbanjo declared More assets then all this and yet some of these judges have been practising law long before him
If you have a little sense of analysis, Osinbanjo declared his assets and his source of earnings that are verifiable, osinbanjo is a principal partner of salmon coopers...If those judges think their earnings are legitimates they should go ahead and declare the source...Or is their source blood money?? because that is the only source that cannot be verified...

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by rusher14: 6:07am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

It is the responsibility of he who alleges to prove.The DSS must be able to prove the monies were proceeds of a particular corrupt activity. You don't take someone's money and ask him to prove he didn't get it through corruption, the law doesn't work that way.I am however sure the judges would be ready ti explain alternative sources of their income but the law expects the DSS to prove that the monies were sourced from corruption and not the other way round

The DSS don't need to prove much.

All they need are your CCB affidavits, evidence of wealth in contrast to your declarations, some circumstantial evidence of graft, your intention to cover up your "crime", some witnesses including the registrars that may have ratted you out and it's all home and dry.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by rusher14: 6:08am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

The courts Will decide who is corrupt and not the DSS or Sahara reporters

And you would not determine who is innocent.

How about that?

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Ovamboland(m): 6:13am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

What is a crime in having huge lodgement? From what is been peddled about the DSS has nothing concrete on this judges. It is not a crime for someone to have huge lodgements or for them not to have touched their salaries for a very long time.

I am sure most of these Judges have other investments like so many other Nigerians.Who relies on just one source of income in this country?

All the above are conjectures, it is an offence to be in possession of unearned wealth, if earned legitimately the paper trail will show the source, value added by the judges and taxes paid etc. If the security agencies can't prove the source is illegal, tax evasion charges can brought against them.
The fact such amount is kept at home is reasonable ground to suspect money laundering, tax evasion, and criminal intent. Are judges legally allowed to engage in active business? eg soliciting for contracts, buying and selling etc. by the codes and ethics of their profession? Even if they are able to prove trhey earned the money found by obtaining contracts, they may still be charged for infractions especially if such contracts came from sources that could be deemed conflict of interest.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Aristo3146(m): 6:14am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

It is the responsibility of he who alleges to prove.The DSS must be able to prove the monies were proceeds of a particular corrupt activity. You don't take someone's money and ask him to prove he didn't get it through corruption, the law doesn't work that way.I am however sure the judges would be ready ti explain alternative sources of their income but the law expects the DSS to prove that the monies were sourced from corruption and not the other way round
I thought you are reasonable but this comment just sold you out...

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Ovamboland(m): 6:17am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

Since when did it become a crime to keep money at home or to own property? You people should be smarter thsn this!!!Osinbanjo declared More assets then all this and yet some of these judges have been practising law long before him

And we are not that dull not to be able to determine if those 1.5 Bn properties was purchased when the judge was in private practice probably over a decade ago or after sitting over lucrative election petition tribunal

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:27am On Oct 13, 2016
Aristo3146:
If you have a little sense of analysis, Osinbanjo declared his assets and his source of earnings that are verifiable, osinbanjo is a principal partner of salmon coopers...If those judges think their earnings are legitimates they should go ahead and declare the source...Or is their source blood money?? because that is the only source that cannot be verified...
Have they told you they don't have explanations for the source of the monies found in their houses?
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by 989900: 6:27am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

[s]What is a crime in having huge lodgement? From what is been peddled about the DSS has nothing concrete on this judges. It is not a crime for someone to have huge lodgements or for them not to have touched their salaries for a very long time.

I am sure most of these Judges have other investments like so many other Nigerians.Who relies on just one source of income in this country?[/s]

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:29am On Oct 13, 2016
rusher14:


The DSS don't need to prove much.

All they need are your CCB affidavits, evidence of wealth in contrast to your declarations, some circumstantial evidence of graft, your intention to cover up your "crime", some witnesses including the registrars that may have ratted you out and it's all home and dry.
If they have all this what is stopping them from going to Court?
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:30am On Oct 13, 2016
Ovamboland:


And we are not that dull not to be able to determine if those 1.5 Bn properties was purchased when the judge was in private practice probably over a decade ago or after sitting over lucrative election petition tribunal
Still speculations which has no basis in law
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:31am On Oct 13, 2016
Aristo3146:
I thought you are reasonable but this comment just sold you out...
I just stated the position of the law to you. Why don't you ask a lawyer friend of yours to explain that to you?
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by rusher14: 6:31am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

If they have all this what is stopping them from going to Court?

They have asked for the suspension of the judges by the NJC which is the right thing everywhere in the world. You may try to confuse your likes but when it comes to this issue your judges would be reduced to ordinary citizens and sit as accused in the courts.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by 989900: 6:33am On Oct 13, 2016
modath:


Help a civil servant explain source of funds running into hundreds of millions... sad



of course nah, they have "investments" especially when they are living on "proceeds of fresh air"








Kindly lead me to the kind of business anyone can start with a sum of 10m or thereabout and will be making hundreds of millions yearly, abeg make a join am, thank you.






*sidebar* sincerely, I don't know why I'm dignifying this with a response, humans shouldn't do this to themselves in the name of "opposition" abeg? undecided

U too get time Mo'.

You are having a reasonable convo with 'intelligently f00lish' people.

Ask them if the judges can provide the tax returns or transaction papers for their worth.

Judges wey already know they are in soup, some online touts are still trying to make case for, following fake news sponsored by Wike.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:34am On Oct 13, 2016
Ovamboland:


All the above are conjectures, it is an offence to be in possession of unearned wealth, if earned legitimately the paper trail will show the source, value added by the judges and taxes paid etc. If the security agencies can't prove the source is illegal, tax evasion charges can brought against them.
The fact such amount is kept at home is reasonable ground to suspect money laundering, tax evasion, and criminal intent. Are judges legally allowed to engage in active business? eg soliciting for contracts, buying and selling etc. by the codes and ethics of their profession? Even if they are able to prove trhey earned the money found by obtaining contracts, they may still be charged for infractions especially if such contracts came from sources that could be deemed conflict of interest.
Keeping money at home is not money laundering!!!! They were not travelling with it.It was found in their homes and that my friend is not a crime.All what you are ranting are mere conjectures and the NJC nor any court of law will not act on that
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:35am On Oct 13, 2016
989900:


U too get time Mo'.

You are having a reasonable convo with 'intelligently f00lish' people.

Ask them if the judges can provide the tax returns or transaction papers for their worth.

Judges wey already know they are in soup, some online touts are still trying to make case for, following fake news sponsored by Wike.
I ask again if the DSS has this huge case a against them ,how come they were released without arraignment? A
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:38am On Oct 13, 2016
rusher14:


They have asked for the suspension of the judges by the NJC which is the right thing everywhere in the world. You may try to confuse your likes but when it comes to this issue your judges would be reduced to ordinary citizens and sit as accused in the courts.
The NJC in one of their letters to the DSS on Justice Pindiga made it clear that the DSS could not substantiate its allegations against him and refused to suspend him.None of the judges will be suspended by the NJC without sufficient proof

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Ballmer: 6:38am On Oct 13, 2016
horlabiyi:
They just want to silent this arm of the government but
more like you just want your brain to remain permanently dead as it always been.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by 989900: 6:38am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

I ask again if the DSS has this huge case a against them ,how come they were released without arraignment? A

If you have to ask this kind of question, it will be a waste of my time talking to you.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Progressive01(m): 6:39am On Oct 13, 2016
Did they also grant judgements in favour of iPods??
Hang the criminals jor.

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Nobody: 6:43am On Oct 13, 2016
Mynd44 day don break oh...come fast
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:43am On Oct 13, 2016
The letters are attached.Do take note of no 4

Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by Progressive01(m): 6:45am On Oct 13, 2016
modath:



*sidebar* sincerely, I don't know why I'm dignifying this with a response, humans shouldn't do this to themselves in the name of "opposition" abeg? undecided
Glad you said "humans".

Perhaps if you look closely, you'd see where the problem lies. wink

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:46am On Oct 13, 2016
Paragraph 4 made it clear the DSS did not attach any even evidence to it's petition.They just wrote a petition and expected the NJC to suspend the judges!!!, is that how the law works?

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by rusher14: 6:52am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

The NJC in one of their letters to the DSS on Justice Pindiga made it clear that the DSS could not substantiate its allegations against him and refused to suspend him.None of the judges will be suspended by the NJC without sufficient proof

And you don't them to execute a warrant. In other words, you would support any form of corruption.
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kokoA(m): 6:56am On Oct 13, 2016
kcnwaigbo:

A corrupt judge is as bad as a corrupt president. You will have to prove someone is corrupt before calling him corrupt
At your age, look at what you are saying undecided Do you know how many innocent people are languishing in prison because of these corrupt judges?

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Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:58am On Oct 13, 2016
rusher14:


And you don't them to execute a warrant. In other words, you would support any form of corruption.
Did you read the letter I just posted?
Re: Two More Judges Arrested As DSS Freezes Accounts by kcnwaigbo: 6:59am On Oct 13, 2016
kokoA:
At your age, look at what you are saying undecided Do you know how many innocent people are languishing in prison because of these corrupt judges?
Many more are in jail because of corrupt EFCC and DSS officials!! Many people are in jail because the presidency is corrupt

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