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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 1:58pm On Oct 24, 2016
HyDef:


"A small birth canal has never been an impediment to delivery."

For real?

Cephalopelvic disproportion, can sometimes require a Cesarean Section. Why? Cuz the baby would get stuck during delivery. Obstructed labour, and that would greatly increase the risk of both neonatal and maternal morbidity and mortality.

A small birth canal can always be an impediment to safe delivery, if not managed properly.


I already said this. Go back and read my posts.

Besides why not surgically attempt to correct it and while at it reposition it from being between the legs to in front of the stomach theirby eliminating rhe pelvic bones from supporting the pregnancy and see how that works out for the growing baby in the womb.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by raphieMontella: 2:04pm On Oct 24, 2016
jonbellion:
You see humans and animals with avatisms- yet evolution is a lie
You look at the early embryological structures of mammals- yet evolution is a farce
we have mithochloridial DNA- yet we all came from Adam and eve
Artificial selection produced the various breeds of dogs we have today in 10 000 years- yet natural selection can't produce the diversity of life on earth in 4.5 billion years
We have Neanderthal DNA- yet we are the only human species
Neotiny in humans- yet we didn't branch out from an ape like ancestor
Archaeopteryx - yet birds didn't evolve from dinosaurs
The marsupial animals: Kangaroos, wombats, koalas and Tasmanian devils went all the way from Australia to the middle east and after that they went all the way back. Nothing has explained the rise of marsupials better than convergent evolution- yet evolution is a lie simply cuz you people don't like it
Lactose persistence- yet humans ain't evolving
The appendix.. What are we using it for. Do we eat grass??- yet it is not a proof of a vestigial organ and evolution is still a satanic lie
The cocyx- do we have tails?
Antibiotic resistance also isn't proof
Vestigial reflexes in babies also isn't proof
Nawa
* sigh*
Dude just forget these people abeg. They'll rather listen to creationist "scientists" like ken ham, Kent hovind and Micheal behe. Kent hovind is even rejected in the creation "science" community
Btw C S Lewis was a theistic evolutionist
the bolded!

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by raphieMontella: 2:06pm On Oct 24, 2016
winner01:
They dont need your explanations. They live according to the purpose of God.
lol..
''it'' in quotes-----tell us the intelligent design...
Or wait..is it ''vivid'' conscious animals you need?
I can bring them up too?

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by raphieMontella: 2:08pm On Oct 24, 2016
winner01:
lol. O.K

Before coming back to edit your dot, make sure its not an atheist website you will refer me to grin
im not editing anything..
Its different ''surveys''
also...we should be looking at the percentage of people who are evolutionists/believe in evolution right?

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by jonbellion(m): 2:11pm On Oct 24, 2016
4everGod:



the coccyx if for the gathering of nerve endings and has absolutely nothing to do with a tail residue. Go and read up oga.

appendix acts as a safe house for
good bacteria. The body uses this to
essentially “reboot” the digestive
system when one suffers from a bout
of dysentery or cholera.

The appendix is not useless no matter what you might think. I advice that you go update yourself.
hmmm have you ever read a book on evolution or you just read arguments against evolution. Why u stopped being a creationist was because when I started reading books on evolution, the arguments given against it were always refuted. A good example is what you just said. And also if you look at it from where the evolutionary biologists are coming from you'll see it's not wrong but you guys logic is:
Evolution is against a literal interpretation of the bible
The bible is 100% true
Therefore evolution is a lie
And you start going to icr.com
I advise you to pick up a book on evolution

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 2:12pm On Oct 24, 2016
raphieMontella:

im not editing anything..
Its different ''surveys''
also...we should be looking at the percentage of people who are evolutionists/believe in evolution right?


For a long time, Gallup's
survey on evolution and
creationism has been the
standard for opinion
data on this topic; the
organization's 2014
"Beliefs and Values"
survey suggested that 42 percent of
Americans are creationists, 31 percent are
theistic evolutionists, and 19 percent are
atheistic evolutionists.

Thats a very credible extract and that is in America that has all access to all info and freedom of belief. Now run this survey round the world and you will see why 2% is the general belief when compared to world population.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by raphieMontella: 2:14pm On Oct 24, 2016
4everGod:



For a long time, Gallup's
survey on evolution and
creationism has been the
standard for opinion
data on this topic; the
organization's 2014
"Beliefs and Values"
survey suggested that 42 percent of
Americans are creationists, 31 percent are
theistic evolutionists, and 19 percent are
atheistic evolutionists.

Thats a very credible extract and that is in America that has all access to all info and freedom of belief. Now run this survey round the world and you will see why 2% is the general belief when compared to world population
back this up pls....
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 2:15pm On Oct 24, 2016
jonbellion:
hmmm have you ever read a book on evolution or you just read arguments against evolution. Why u stopped being a creationist was because when I started reading books on evolution, the arguments given against it were always refuted. A good example is what you just said. And also if you look at it from where the evolutionary biologists are coming from you'll see it's not wrong but you guys logic is:
Evolution is against a literal interpretation of the bible
The bible is 100% true
Therefore evolution is a lie
And you start going to icr.com
I advise you to pick up a book on evolution


Been there done that so your offer isnt new. I suggest you do your own research on evolution and not from a book concocted by someone who told stories he never witnessed now wants me to attach faith to it and believe it hook line and sinker. My faith is too precious to waste. sorry
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Kalatium(m): 2:18pm On Oct 24, 2016
Lennycool:


-Exposed male testicles: The sole life giving organ of the male is exposed to . Again there is no sufficient reason why males would be intelligently created like this but the evolutionary answer is simple, the male testicles will most likely be used before the death of the male, so there isn't any pressure to change it, as it will still serve the function of reproduction, which is the evolutionary aim.

-The appendix; Also known as the killer organ, if the appendix were a family member, it would be the useless third cousin that sleeps in your house all day and eats your food and also possessed murderous tendencies. The appendix has no known use whatsoever but can still kill the human. it once had a function as it used by rabbits to digest wood, but it is now a vestigial organ because evolution hasn't had time to remove it. There is no need for an intelligent creator to add this to the human body.



The exposed male testicles is there for a reason. The body temperature of human is 37 degree. But sperm cannot survive so the testes descent via the inguinal canal into the scrotum to maintain temperature 4 degrees below.

Recent research in the 21st century have found that the appendix is not vestigial, it helps in immunity and also helps to trap bacteria in the colon. The fact that u can live without appendix doesn't mean it is useless.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 2:22pm On Oct 24, 2016
Kalatium:


The exposed male testicles is there for a reason. The body temperature of human is 37 degree. But sperm cannot survive so the testes descent via the inguinal canal into the scrotum to maintain temperature 4 degrees below.

Recent research in the 21st century have found that the appendix is not vestigial, it helps in immunity and also helps to trap bacteria in the colon. The fact that u can live without appendix doesn't mean it is useless.


pls tell that supposedly "intelligent" fellow who feels he holds all the answers. I advised him to visit a Gynae for some answers then he would know how silly his thread is.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 2:29pm On Oct 24, 2016
raphieMontella:

by back this up...i mean with a survey..
I know of none...


on your US status..i think you should check up ---rate of secularisim/irreligiousity...
On level of access of information...'lets use the internet'----https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Internet_usage
per-country----
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users


so i dont know how you're getting your 2%...


so Wikipedia is now more authentic than the Gallups survey when it comes to matters of this nature? Continue deceiving yourself.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by jonbellion(m): 2:34pm On Oct 24, 2016
4everGod:



Been there done that so your offer isnt new. I suggest you do your own research on evolution and not from a book concocted by someone who told stories he never witnessed now wants me to attach faith to it and believe it hook line and sinker. My faith is too precious to waste. sorry
evolution is not based on faith it's evidence go and read up on the Darwin finches in the Galapagos islands. And what you said that is exactly what you apply to the bible "stories written that you weren't there to experience"
Evolution is like forensic science you weren't there but you are able to pick up the clues left and analyze it. That's what you need to understand

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 2:38pm On Oct 24, 2016
jonbellion:
evolution is not based on faith it's evidence go and read up on the Darwin finches in the Galapagos islands. And what you said that is exactly what you apply to the bible "stories written that you weren't there to experience"
Evolution is like forensic science you weren't there but you are able to pick up the clues left and analyze it. That's what you need to understand


I understand this way better than you can imagine. Just dont have the time to give you details due to my location so enjoy.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by raphieMontella: 2:38pm On Oct 24, 2016
4everGod:



so Wikipedia is now more authentic than the Gallups survey when it comes to matters of this nature? Continue deceiving yourself.
wikipedia refers to authentic documents...if we check ''acceptance'' of evolution on wikipedia,we'd see GALLUP'S SURVEY there..
What am saying is that
1)the internet is a way/an access to info'
2)if 88% of the US has usage of the internet...we can say by benefit of doubt at least 44% percent of its users do researches on stuffs like this..
3)if the US has 54% of evolutionists
we can by benefit of doubt, say 27% percent got to learn about evolution by access to info'----(The internet)
4)if 44% percent of internet users gave 27% of evolutionists..
We can extrapolate to other countries with a +/-%-age error...
Its simple logic..
I see no way it is close to 2%...maybe you can show me.

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by jonbellion(m): 2:44pm On Oct 24, 2016
Kalatium:


The exposed male testicles is there for a reason. The body temperature of human is 37 degree. But sperm cannot survive so the testes descent via the inguinal canal into the scrotum to maintain temperature 4 degrees below.

Recent research in the 21st century have found that the appendix is not vestigial, it helps in immunity and also helps to trap bacteria in the colon. The fact that u can live without appendix doesn't mean it is useless.
you're saying that because the appendix contained lymphoid tissue which are involved in the gut immune system. However you are failing to realise that this lymphoid tissue is not confined to the appendix but is found throughout the gut, forming the gut-associated lymphoid tissue. Therefore the appendix doesn't help in the immune system.it is clearly not a specialised organ for housing lymphoid tissue, but rather a vestigial part of the colon that keeps its immune function, perhaps just to defend against bacterial infection of the appendix itself.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 2:46pm On Oct 24, 2016
jonbellion:
you're saying that because the appendix contained lymphoid tissue which are involved in the gut immune system. However you are failing to realise that this lymphoid tissue is not confined to the appendix but is found throughout the gut, forming the gut-associated lymphoid tissue. Therefore the appendix doesn't help in the immune system.it is clearly not a specialised organ for housing lymphoid tissue, but rather a vestigial part of the colon that keeps its immune function, perhaps just to defend against bacterial infection of the appendix itself.


Copy and paste. Are you a microbiologist? You are only trying to defend what real biologists have come to say as the true function for the apendix.

You on the other hand know nothing but copy and paste.
Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by jonbellion(m): 2:57pm On Oct 24, 2016
4everGod:



Copy and paste. Are you a microbiologist? You are only trying to defend what real biologists have come to say as the true function for the apendix.

You on the other hand know nothing but copy and paste.
shocked I copied and pasted *gasp* really??. What is wrong with you angry I told you I read books on evolution that refute all this things and yet you say I copy and paste. Sha if that's what you like that's okay with you go and read why evolution is true by jerry Coyne and stop being a r*tard

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by byteHead(m): 2:58pm On Oct 24, 2016
You have no idea how awful the human body is. Our bodies show no intelligent design at all.

Examples :We have two eyes to see in 3D. While we may have great depth perception, our field of view is limited. A pigeon with eyes on either side of its head can't see 3D, but can see almost all around its body. How many car accidents occur or people getting attacked from behind because our peripheral vision is so bad?

We are not particularly strong or fast. Our genitali.a are a mess: urine and semen come out of the same hole in males, and the female reproductive system seems totally unable to handle our large-headed babies.

Of course, we weren't designed. We evolved, and evolution is not a directed process seeking perfection.
Technology helps us overcome the many flaws in our body to extend our reach on earth.

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by jonbellion(m): 2:58pm On Oct 24, 2016
Sorry for insulting you but what you said annoyed me

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by jonbellion(m): 3:04pm On Oct 24, 2016
4everGod:



Copy and paste. Are you a microbiologist? You are only trying to defend what real biologists have come to say as the true function for the apendix.

You on the other hand know nothing but copy and paste.
you don't even know what a microbiologist does and yet you come to argue against evolution. You are a joke sha

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Re: Proof Of Evolution: The Imperfect Human Body by Nobody: 3:07pm On Oct 24, 2016
byteHead:
You have no idea how awful the human body is. Our bodies show no intelligent design at all.

Examples :We have two eyes to see in 3D. While we may have great depth perception, our field of view is limited. A pigeon with eyes on either side of its head can't see 3D, but can see almost all around its body. How many car accidents occur or people getting attacked from behind because our peripheral vision is so bad?

We are not particularly strong or fast. Our genitali.a are a mess: urine and semen come out of the same hole in males, and the female reproductive system seems totally unable to handle our large-headed babies.

Of course, we weren't designed. We evolved, and evolution is not a directed process seeking perfection.
Technology helps us overcome the many flaws in our body to extend our reach on earth.



Tell that to your LAW OF NATURAL SELECTION. If in another 1 million years and you are still here and you see slight evolutionary changes in the human body to correct all you just stated as "mistakes" then you can sell your idea.

Until you have comparative proof to show we are a mess and the way our body and organs are brought together and synchronised is not right then stop talking and face a wall or something.

Besides since you are so sure its a mistake why no carry out corrective surgery on yourself or on your kids or wife...Afterall daddy knowa best....lol

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