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Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by buchilino(m): 7:09am On Oct 28, 2016
Iaeku50:
Mechanic na mechanic grin
2 AN EXTENT I AGREE WITH U.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by Kog45(m): 7:12am On Oct 28, 2016
lonelydude:
Each time I want to take my car to the mechanic, I always develop the fear of the guy destroying something else after fixing the reason for the visit. This was the case with the last mechanic I frequently used until I got tired of him after he completely knocked my car engine and destroyed the gearbox. I had to take a driving break for about two months before I purchased another engine and gearbox.

Now, the new mechanic, who was recommended by the engine seller, installed the entire package only for the speedometer not to be working and a delayed/sluggish response transmission whenever I accelerate. I noticed this when I test-drove the car from the mainland to the island. The engine works perfectly fine but for more than 3 weeks now,I am yet to start driving the car just because of the two problems mentioned above.

The car is currently with my auto-electrician (Very educated Auto-electrician) who said something needs to be changed in the gear. He said the speed sensor (which is perfectly ok) is not being turned by the gear and hence speedometer still stagnant at zero reading. When he turned the speed sensor with his fingers, the speedometer responded but when connected to the gear, it remains stagnant.
He has checked everything every other electrical faults/signal/sensor that may be responsible but none of this seem to be the problem.

My questions:

Are educated mechanics really better than uneducated mechanics? They both claim they are specific car brand specialists (e.g. I work on only toyota, i work on only honda, bla...bla..etc). Do you consider their educational level before the patronize them?

How do exactly know a good and experienced mechanic?


Please, advise a brother. BTW, I drive a Toyota RAV4 (2002).

Thanks in advance for your advice.

I got a lovely 2007 e92 BMW car in 2009 but uneducated mechanic nearly kill me to d extent of parking d car for 6 months until I saw a well broaden mechanic who fixed d car for me in less than 10 mins.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by ednut1(m): 7:12am On Oct 28, 2016
i knew wasiu my mech was dumb when he told me check light being on meant nothing and the car was fine. only for d car to stop on the road after one hour drive. used a friends scanner to diagnose it, one ignition coil and the plugs were bad. those uneducated mechs some are jokers abeg

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Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by InvertedHammer: 7:14am On Oct 28, 2016
illmatic101:


The new mechanic is definitely the best, I studied Mechanical engineering and took automotive/automobile as an option, after school I practice automobile/mechatronics for the two years, so I can easily advise you to stick with the educated mechanic. The only thing you need to change in the gearbox is the speed sensor.

LOL

It sounds easy until it comes to changing the sensor.

Overall, you need a good experienced mechanic.

I have taken cars to a dealership where their so-called licensed mechanics could not figure it out even with all the high end tools
at their disposal.

The problem is that some apprentices run away from their masters after about 2 years without completing the training. He will set up shop and claim to be a knowledgeable mechanic until you entrust your vehicle to him. Also, I found out that a lot of people drive cars in Nigeria without the
slightest clues about cars. Then they wonder why quack mechanics take them on merry-go-round.

Just like in any profession, there are good and bad ones. Heck! There are surgeons you wouldn't want in the theater near your loved ones.

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Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by WesBreezy: 7:29am On Oct 28, 2016
Like who cares? Can you perfectly fix my car is the question here. Doesn't matter if educated or not.

what's the essence of your education if you eat and drop wraps on the street and an uneducated still be the one to sweep them off?
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by moscobabs(m): 7:32am On Oct 28, 2016
femmykenny:
It does not really matter either your mechanic is educated or not, the most important thing is to get a good mechanic.
Some are educated but have little knowledge while some are not educated with vast knowledge.
The major difference is the ability of educated mechanic to use Car Diagnostics tools and equipment to resolve car problem and to Counter Guess work done by uneducated mechanic.
My mechanic is not educated but very popular in my area,work from mon/sunday and Only those that have patronise a workshop can tell if a mechanic is good or not.
Oga gazzuz and others on nairaland are famous due to the good news shared by those that have patronised them.
Both educated and uneducated have their merits and demerits.
What would have happen to Nairaland car talk section without the educated mechanics ?
For a while I have been looking forward to oga gazzuz free scan that my mechanic cannot do even when I needed it !
And
I can't imagine calling oga gazzuz on sunday morning that my car develop issue and I will want him to come and check but my uneducated mechanic will come around before dropping the call.
I respect educated mechanic and I don't look down on the latter!



I expect oga gazzuz to come. online o.

him and sienna and other guys can respond to this but sienna has already deactivated his naira land account.

Oga Gazzuz pls when is the free scan stuff start na let me too come chop from your goodwill.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by goingape2: 7:36am On Oct 28, 2016
lonelydude:
Each time I want to take my car to the mechanic, I always develop the fear of the guy destroying something else after fixing the reason for the visit. This was the case with the last mechanic I frequently used until I got tired of him after he completely knocked my car engine and destroyed the gearbox. I had to take a driving break for about two months before I purchased another engine and gearbox.

Now, the new mechanic, who was recommended by the engine seller, installed the entire package only for the speedometer not to be working and a delayed/sluggish response transmission whenever I accelerate. I noticed this when I test-drove the car from the mainland to the island. The engine works perfectly fine but for more than 3 weeks now,I am yet to start driving the car just because of the two problems mentioned above.

The car is currently with my auto-electrician (Very educated Auto-electrician) who said something needs to be changed in the gear. He said the speed sensor (which is perfectly ok) is not being turned by the gear and hence speedometer still stagnant at zero reading. When he turned the speed sensor with his fingers, the speedometer responded but when connected to the gear, it remains stagnant.
He has checked everything every other electrical faults/signal/sensor that may be responsible but none of this seem to be the problem.

My questions:

Are educated mechanics really better than uneducated mechanics? They both claim they are specific car brand specialists (e.g. I work on only toyota, i work on only honda, bla...bla..etc). Do you consider their educational level before the patronize them?

How do exactly know a good and experienced mechanic?


Please, advise a brother. BTW, I drive a Toyota RAV4 (2002).

Thanks in advance for your advice.

many of you hear don't know the full meaning if educated, education and educational!

so who are you to say those road side mechanics are not educated?
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by Nobody: 7:37am On Oct 28, 2016
Each to some extent has an edge.

An uneducated mechanic that has been in d biz, and has enough knowledge to gain mastery in his art is good.

An educated mechanic that has also been in the biz, and has enough knowledge to gain mastery in his art is definitely better.

If u carry ur moto go give one fine boy like dat because he just graduated from skul with a first class degree in mechanical engineering, bros u de find trouble.

Experience matters.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by moscobabs(m): 7:39am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:

1 free scan for you. Expires 30th of NOV 2016
oga gazuzz what about me na?? your follower since birth!!!
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by Kog45(m): 7:44am On Oct 28, 2016
femmykenny:
It does not really matter either your mechanic is educated or not, the most important thing is to get a good mechanic.
Some are educated but have little knowledge while some are not educated with vast knowledge.
The major difference is the ability of educated mechanic to use Car Diagnostics tools and equipment to resolve car problem and to Counter Guess work done by uneducated mechanic.
My mechanic is not educated but very popular in my area,work from mon/sunday and Only those that have patronise a workshop can tell if a mechanic is good or not.
Oga gazzuz and others on nairaland are famous due to the good news shared by those that have patronised them.
Both educated and uneducated have their merits and demerits.
What would have happen to Nairaland car talk section without the educated mechanics ?
For a while I have been looking forward to oga gazzuz free scan that my mechanic cannot do even when I needed it !
And
I can't imagine calling oga gazzuz on sunday morning that my car develop issue and I will want him to come and check but my uneducated mechanic will come around before dropping the call.
I respect educated mechanic and I don't look down on the latter!


Honestly there is no need for comparison btw d educated and uneducated mechanic coz there is a wide gap.

Uneducated mechanic can kill u unknowingly coz he lacks knowledge,forget experience such uneducated might have,it doesn't count.

I took my car to my old mechanic for ordinary servicing,guess what happened after servicing,d car refused to start and d car need to spend 2 days in d workshop,something just tell me to Google and Google told me d oil filter was wrongly fixed.

I went to my mechanic and told him to check d fixing of oil filter,honestly d oil filter was wrongly fixed.It was after refix that d car start.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by GAZZUZZ(m): 7:55am On Oct 28, 2016
moscobabs:


oga gazuzz what about me na?? your follower since birth!!!

my man, I remember you, benin people been wan suck ya blood finish grin

No wahala you can tap into the free scan
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by Nobody: 7:55am On Oct 28, 2016
rawpadgin:
n


Borrow me dis space, cos I wan tell am make him sell the car
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by chinene1(f): 7:56am On Oct 28, 2016
I use two mechanics. One educated who works on the engine and the order not educated who does the electrical work. I like the uneducated one more cos when I call him to work on my car he even does the one I didn't send him. Lol. He ensures that every thing is checked and working and can price spare parts like a woman pricing tomatoes. grin

The educated one is real ajebo. To come wahala, Oya fix this. He will fix it and then two weeks later something else spoils. When I complain he will say he saw it but since I didn't mention it he didn't try to fix it. Also instead of him to go to Ladipo to buy parts he buys them from resellers around him for a higher price. But I must confess he is good with engines.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by muller101(m): 8:11am On Oct 28, 2016
honmusa:
Educated Mech will charge you much more and you will have a permanent fix but a illiterate Mech will charge you little or next to nothing but will make you keep coming still you sell the car out of frustration .
I must admit that today's cars are complex and smart systems and will require a smart and above average educated professional to understand it ,so tell me where does the illiterate mechanic now come in except to help you to remove and dismantle tough bolt and screws.
I have been able to fix a whole lot of cars that i have not even touched before within just a few minutes with those same cars been written off by countless no of mechanics .The whole secret is basic education in theory of engineering principle .If you get the theory right ,practical will be a piece cake.
did u say permanent fix? Pls edit that statement.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by MadCow1: 8:22am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:


1 free scan for you. Expires 30th of NOV 2016

Free Scan?! grin grin grin grin


Why not throw in free servicing or something like that. grin
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:35am On Oct 28, 2016
MadCow1:


Free Scan?! grin grin grin grin


Why not throw in free servicing or something like that. grin

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Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by MadCow1: 8:42am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:


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grin grin grin

Bro, I salute you o!

But free scan is not enough to be awoof na.. grin Just add one free service or even epp the guy rotate ehn tyres.. grin

Meanwhile, since i have your attention, I have an 05 Honda City that keeps having ignition issues. You can drive the car all day today without wahala, park it for 1 minute, return and kick it and would not even as much as cough. Leav it for like 1 hour, return and kick it again and it would just start. I know its not the batteries as I just changed them. I know its not the alternator as that one is working well. I know its not the kick started as I also just recently changed em. I was told by Honda place a while back to change a 'gear cable' which I did but the problem still persists.. Sometimes I have to move the gear to neutral for the engine to start. Other times, that trick does not work.

Any advise? Free one o!! grin



AT topic:: Mechanic na Mechanic.. But I prefer to go with educated mechanics with established garages because their repairs comes with a 3 - 6 months warranty and if the problem persists, I can always go back to them to fix it free of cost.

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Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by enitey(f): 8:43am On Oct 28, 2016
nony43:
An educated mechanic will consider his certs, plus generational problems before billing you



grin cheesy
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:46am On Oct 28, 2016
MadCow1:


grin grin grin

Bro, I salute you o!

But free scan is not enough to be awoof na.. grin Just add one free service or even epp the guy rotate ehn tyres.. grin

Meanwhile, since i have your attention, I have an 05 Honda City that keeps having ignition issues. You can drive the car all day today without wahala, park it for 1 minute, return and kick it and would not even as much as cough. Leav it for like 1 hour, return and kick it again and it would just start. I know its not the batteries as I just changed them. I know its not the alternator as that one is working well. I know its not the kick started as I also just recently changed em. I was told by Honda place a while back to change a 'gear cable' which I did but the problem still persists.. Sometimes I have to move the gear to neutral for the engine to start. Other times, that trick does not work.

Any advise? Free one o!! grin



AT topic:: Mechanic na Mechanic.. But I prefer to go with educated mechanics with established garages because their repairs comes with a 3 - 6 months warranty and if the problem persists, I can always go back to them to fix it free of cost.

If you in lagos come for a free fix. (parts inclusive)

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Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by MadCow1: 8:49am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:


If you in lagos come for a free fix. (parts inclusive)



#Faints..


#thanks.. Sadly the vehicle is in Port Harcourt.

But I have an 09' Hyundai Sonata in Lagos that needs some work. grin Do you fix Korean cars?
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by Ironi: 8:50am On Oct 28, 2016
Anything educated is better.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by bdek(m): 8:56am On Oct 28, 2016
illmatic101:


The new mechanic is definitely the best, I studied Mechanical engineering and took automotive/automobile as an option, after school I practice automobile/mechatronics for the two years, so I can easily advise you to stick with the educated mechanic. The only thing you need to change in the gearbox is the speed sensor.


(educated mechanic) did you read this part in the paragraph (The car is currently with my auto-electrician (Very educated Auto-electrician) who said something needs to be changed in the gear. He said the speed sensor (which is perfectly ok) is not being turned by the gear and hence speedometer still stagnant at zero reading. When he turned the speed sensor with his fingers, the speedometer responded but when connected to the gear, it remains stagnant.
He has checked everything every other electrical faults/signal/sensor that may be responsible but none of this seem to be the problem.
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Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by honmusa(m): 9:03am On Oct 28, 2016
muller101:
did u say permanent fix? Pls edit that statement.
Yes I stand by it ,I don't need to edit it cos I know what I am saying ,though u might have gotten bad experience with some certain individual that act educated with nothing upstairs ,That doesn't go against the fact that there are some area in car repair that if you are not educated u can't do any thing except to guess.
Modern cars give out data which u can collate with your scan tool that you will need to make analysis from ,to make accurate analysis ,your knowledge of physical science most be sound ,infact u must be a A1 physics student to understand some.Th educates ones are still struggling to understand all this concept ,so where does the illiterate ones now come in .
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by GAZZUZZ(m): 9:15am On Oct 28, 2016
MadCow1:



#Faints..


#thanks.. Sadly the vehicle is in Port Harcourt.

But I have an 09' Hyundai Sonata in Lagos that needs some work. grin Do you fix Korean cars?

I wan’t to help you but it is more difficult
I try to put effort but i did not see result


Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by MadCow1: 9:19am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:


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lol..

The Hyundai isn't a freebie request.. I just wanted to know if you fixed that brand so I could bring to you for a check up and a quote to bring her back to her old self again.

She generally has no real problems, but I have been working out of Port Harcourt for over a year now and have barely driven her. In that time, being parked under the sun, the dash cracked up, my power Windows got bad, e.t.c... I just don't feel comfortable driving her around anymore.

I am looking for a good reliable mechanic that can fix her up real good without charging me Stallion Motors money.

Do you fix that brand? If not, then its cool.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by seunajia: 9:23am On Oct 28, 2016
Gazzuzz is better wink
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by GAZZUZZ(m): 9:29am On Oct 28, 2016
MadCow1:


lol..

The Hyundai isn't a freebie request.. I just wanted to know if you fixed that brand so I could bring to you for a check up and a quote to bring her back to her old self again.

She generally has no real problems, but I have been working out of Port Harcourt for over a year now and have barely driven her. In that time, being parked under the sun, the dash cracked up, my power Windows got bad, e.t.c... I just don't feel comfortable driving her around anymore.

I am looking for a good reliable mechanic that can fix her up real good without charging me Stallion Motors money.

Do you fix that brand? If not, then its cool.

I fix korean brands.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by iyisco2001(m): 9:35am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:


[color=#990000][/color]


Your memes these days though.
lipsrsealed
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by maleeks(m): 10:03am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:

1 free scan for you. Expires 30th of NOV 2016
wow your the boss

Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by Nobody: 10:03am On Oct 28, 2016
lonelydude:
Each time I want to take my car to the mechanic, I always develop the fear of the guy destroying something else after fixing the reason for the visit. This was the case with the last mechanic I frequently used until I got tired of him after he completely knocked my car engine and destroyed the gearbox. I had to take a driving break for about two months before I purchased another engine and gearbox.

Now, the new mechanic, who was recommended by the engine seller, installed the entire package only for the speedometer not to be working and a delayed/sluggish response transmission whenever I accelerate. I noticed this when I test-drove the car from the mainland to the island. The engine works perfectly fine but for more than 3 weeks now,I am yet to start driving the car just because of the two problems mentioned above.

The car is currently with my auto-electrician (Very educated Auto-electrician) who said something needs to be changed in the gear. He said the speed sensor (which is perfectly ok) is not being turned by the gear and hence speedometer still stagnant at zero reading. When he turned the speed sensor with his fingers, the speedometer responded but when connected to the gear, it remains stagnant.
He has checked everything every other electrical faults/signal/sensor that may be responsible but none of this seem to be the problem.

My questions:

Are educated mechanics really better than uneducated mechanics? They both claim they are specific car brand specialists (e.g. I work on only toyota, i work on only honda, bla...bla..etc). Do you consider their educational level before the patronize them?

How do exactly know a good and experienced mechanic?


Please, advise a brother. BTW, I drive a Toyota RAV4 (2002).

Thanks in advance for your advice.


You have been rolling with QUACKS.

Educated or Non Educated.

A professional is a professional.

FORD was not educated but invented ford motors.

Nothing pains me like quacks handling any of my jobs, that is why i know a little about everything.

From design to construction to auto diagnosis.

The guy who fixes all the Lexus, Landcruiser, Prado and Hilux in my state governor's convoy is not a graduate.
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by moscobabs(m): 10:06am On Oct 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:


my man, I remember you, benin people been wan suck ya blood finish grin

No wahala you can tap into the free scan
whaoo!!! thank u oga gazuzz o. before end of November?
Re: Educated Or Uneducated Mechanic? Which Is Better? by Originalsly: 10:14am On Oct 28, 2016
I think Op means a certified mechanic. From the write up it seems the topic came up because the certified mechanic installed the new engine but the car still did not drive well. I am guessing he was told there is a problem with the gearbox as well but said it was OK (because he can drive the car)....the reason why he did not return to the mechanic after discovering the problem. Untrained mechanics do not get to the root of a problem.... they treat the symptoms and that treatment usually cause other problems.If you can't afford a certified mechanic....it is better to park the car until you can.

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