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While Igbos And Yoruba Bicker: The Losses Mount. - Ena Ofugara / Ondo: APC Crisis Worsens As S’west, S’south Chairmen Bicker / Presidential Aides Bicker Over Buhari, Tinubu Feud - Daily Independent (2) (3) (4)
| WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by DozieInc(m): 10:39pm On Oct 28, 2016 |
WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: THE LOSSES MOUNT. By some strange law I do not know much of, I understand that a particular percentage of VAT (value added tax, a tax that is inside everything you buy including pure water) has been set aside for the North East. Okay. I also understand that the rich Kanu that cannot be said to have suffered any major loss from Boko Haram is included in the states benefiting from this VAT that should belong to all states, but now reserved for these Boko Haram states. Okay! Note that Lagos is the number one contributor to VAT. Note also that alcohol sales is one of the number one contributor to VAT purse. Note that Kano former governor Kwankwaso destroyed beer bottles and that alcohol consumption is a crime in these states that today have a chunk of moneys (VAT) collected from Emeka buying "nkwobi and bia" at Mama Ngozi's store. He might as well be handing Usman Mohammed in Bauchi money everytime he says "give me one more bottle dia". Ogunseye is no different. Sitting in Mama Bayo's shop in Akure, every time he says "funmi ni one bottle", he is placing naira in Bello Mustapha's hand in Yobe. Of course same goes for Shirsa in Benue, Mfom in Akwa Ibom, Bekederemo in Patani etc. WE CONSUME BEER TO FEED THE NORTH. But do we as southerners see this? NO. Nnamdi is hellbent on avenging what he believes Awolowo did to Ojukwu. Tolu is ready to drive every Igbo from his lands if they will not stop calling them traitors. While these set of perhaps the brightest Nigerians keep their head in the past, the North smiles to the bank and Bureau de change. If they would only raise their head up, they would find that Lagos in asking to be elevated to SPECIAL STATUS wherein for the amount of people that its roads and infrastructure carry it deserves to be treated differently. They would see also the fact that Nigeria's most popular city should have pipeborne water and get priority in electricity distribution etc and more importantly realize that A DEVELOPED AND WORKING LAGOS BENEFITS NOT JUST YORUBAS, BUT EVERY RESIDENT OR VISITOR. But the bill to have Lagos, a place many Nigerians have called HOME, even if for a month when they went to visit their uncle, is shot down like it was Dr Oyenusi at bar beach. The bullets that shot it down coming from every region with Aboki shouting the READY, SET, FIRE!!! And even if we all say "Lagos is for Yorubas. They have huge IGR (Internally generated revenue) etc, at least Igbos, Yorubas, and the South South as oil producers can surely agree that passing the petroleum bill that gives the village whose soil produce the oil ten percent OF PROFIT is a good idea. Ondo, now Lagos, Abia, Anambra etc stand to benefit. But still we cannot find the unity to put votes that will benefit us all in the south. Meanwhile, pipes are being laid to take the oil straight to the North. Even the North...while evidence shows Igbo land and Yorubaland are far more likely to have oil....even if it is seepage from the rich Niger Delta soils, LOANS AND REVENUE BELONGING TO US ALL ARE BEING DEPLOYED TO LOOK FOR OIL IN THAT SAME BLOOD-SUCKING NORTH EAST. But we all say nothing. IT IS AWOLOWO AND OJUKWU THAT IS STILL OUR PROBLEM. Northern Contractors will become billionaires with those funds. PLUS 2.1 billionDOLLARS loan has been collected on all our heads to develop the North East. The rest of Nigeria will pay it while only the North East AND RICH KANO benefit.The fact that Boko Haram are still killing Nigerians and that many of those people in that North East support Boko Haram as surely as many of us from the Niger Delta, deep in our hearts, support Niger Delta Avengers and pray they are never caught etc, as truly as NORTHERNERS BROUGHT DEATH AND BACKWARDNESS TO THEIR OWN REGION, we must all bear their killings and pay them to build their land they destroyed themselves. But why talk about this when the next Igbo man to comment here will insult the whole Yoruba nation and a Yoruba will reply and Biafra will be mentioned and Biafra will be insulted and more insults and on and on and on and on....... And Fulani herdsmen will kill another Yoruba in and around Kwara and an Igbo in Enugu and ravage the farmers of the middle belt and slaughter them... And grass will be imported for them and lands shared to them And we in the south will argue about AWOLOWO AND OJUKWU. Culled from Ena Ofugara's FaceBook post. Cc: Lalasticlala. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by DozieInc(m): 12:01pm On Oct 29, 2016 |
Omenka, Tonyebarcanista, Sarrki, ProEast, Beremx, Abagworo, IzonPikin, Axon, IykeChukz, Limeta, Deschyko, Freegift75, TrueFederalism . what are your opinion on this. |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Truefederalism(m): 1:10pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Is he asking for a southern alliance? Sorry, that will not work! The worst thing that can happen to any southern person is to be Yoruba, Muslim, and a member of the APC as currently structured. This is the worst combination in the politics of Southern Nigeria. 5 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Nateben(m): 2:12pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
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| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by yang(m): 2:57pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Divide this zoo All this english is hot air The constitution is deeply flawed and not fit for modern developement The SW needs to support Biafra cause Otherwise, we will remain in this Quagmire while the Hausa/Fulani take the money from the ports in lagos to build flyover in the desert of katsina in the name of One Zoo The North would look like Niger republic when everyone is outside the Zoo and all regions can develope at their real pace. No more cheating 8 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Jaideyone(m): 4:12pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
good write up the north has been dribbling us since independence. shame on all southern senators who colluded with the north to bury the Lagos bill. one things such senators fail to realise is that the same treatment awaits the PIB if the south can't speak with one voice. the only way the PIB will scale through is if oil is found in commercial quantities in the North 1 Like |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Jaideyone(m): 4:15pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
yang:here we go again. the thread is about how the south should work together to stop the north from robbing us like they've been doing since 1960 but you've managed to bring your secessionist agenda here again. did you read the write up? |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Chiedu4Trump: 4:25pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Jaideyone: Una no serious oh! After insulting and banning us, now you clamour for us. If you want our support, support our cause. 2 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by mayorchelsea(m): 4:26pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
For me personally, I have no qualms about Igbos leaving Nigeria, it has never and will never be an headache for me because it's hard to see some injustices in Nigeria and not want to leave.Why would Northern Nigeria have a law for its region and Muslims in a secular state/country?Why would sale of alcohol be banned in some states but other states where it is being sold contribute 1% of that sales to that same region?hypocrisy and double standard you say?The manner and approach to realisation of Self rule in the guise of Biafra is what I have problems with personally.Why would Kanu say such things as he often does about my tribe and region and even threatened violence against them?Many of my Igbo friends have always said igbos haven't carried out the threat.Another issue is timing, it took the loss of GEJ to turn on the heat of the secession calls.As at when I started viewing threads here before registering,I hardly see Biafra threads until after 2015 elections.Liase with the right people and seek support to achieve your aim not throwing tantrums around about how Russia and Trump would destroy the zoo and other nonsensical talks. 7 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by 7lives: 4:31pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Jaideyone: I think YORUBAS SHOULD ORGANIZE AND HELP IGBOS TO GET THEIR BIAFRA  'from the look of things they are tired of even tired of Southern Nigeria.4 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Justiceleague1: 4:32pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Jaideyone: this is a typical reason why the south will remain in pertetual bondage,what has the pib gotta do now with the topic? Why digress? The lagos bill was 1st challenged by an abuja senator who later supported by the northern majority senators when a voice vote was called. The abuja senator got angry and demanded and apology from the osun state senator who had earlier described abuja as a pampered child. It had absolutely nothing to do with the pib or southern senators from the east or ss. Please,for Gods sake,face your real enemy and leave the ss/se alone. The op has made a valid point..the north cannot continue to benefit from where it hasnt labored,it cannot continue to reap what others have sown. The north cannot abolish the sale and production of stuff like alcohol but at the same time collect vat from same product generated from elsewhere. The entire south needs to somehow come together and fathom a way out to break free from this internal bondage and colonisation. And Truth be told,the yorubas,like the guy up ^there aint helping matters one bit,they have succeded in estranging everybody in the south. Its so unfortunate. Where do we even start?! 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Eastactivist: 4:37pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Nothing like southern unity... We've no common understanding with the afonjas and never will. Afonjas should by now channel their destiny internally than looking for accomplices. Used and dumped murrafukers 4 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Justiceleague1: 4:41pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Jaideyone:again you cannot blame him for bringing up secessionist agenda..when your likes are waiting to kill the pib,simply cos "they didnt support the lagos bill",what choice do u leave them? The north killed the lagos bill but here u are,pointing fingers at the wrong ppl,pointing fingers at fellow southerners! Imagine this: what would you do,when you discover your our brethren have joined forces with the common enemy to fight you,will you choose to remain? Now talking about secession,dont a ppl have right under the un charter,to determine their own future by themselves. 1 Like |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by diadem10: 4:43pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Eastactivist: You are quite right! We afonjas have no business with the clannish Osus! Kapish! 6 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by babyfaceafrica: 4:55pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Are you guys not tired of these kind of topics? |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Eastactivist: 4:59pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
diadem10: Thank you. As far as the enemity keep ringing in your heart... 1 Like |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by domack99(m): 5:02pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Best post of the year, if only we can take it to whatsapp and distribute to all |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by KidsNEXTdoor: 5:11pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
The north wins again diadem10: Eastactivist: 1 Like |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Eastactivist: 5:19pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
KidsNEXTdoor: Is north an ethnic group or what? Abegi... Meanwhile hausas are complaining of marginalization... So much for the name North used in confusing set of gullibles... |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Olu317(m): 6:21pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Eastactivist:..Hausa are not complaining but grumbling. If any southerner abuses their Emir in the core north or even a sheik as some use to do on NL the way some abuses respected Christians pastors then you will realise these set of people are nothing but a believer of Mortal man as Demi-gods. They practically worship their leaders simply because such leader can easily tell his cook to prepare food in large quantities and call almaijris to be fed. With this, most of their leaders are seen as God sent not knowing that their so called leaders robbed Peter to pay Paul. That's the problem. 2 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by abduljabbar4(m): 7:40pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Eastactivist: I no tell you? |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by BrutalJab: 8:12pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
The South East and South Weast can never agree to do any shit. North must rule us till eternity 1 Like |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by KingNom(m): 8:57pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Dear Mr. President (Our Governors, Political Office holders and my fellow Nigerians), I suggest we make the best use of this tenure to fix the basic FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEM to all our problems as an emerging Great Country: the AVERAGE NIGERIAN MINDSET! Here we can fix the many issues of our Country by using 'ONE STONE to kill a thousand birds'. Let us use the MIND RE-DRIVE STRATEGY. This is by renewing the minds of Nigerians (as many are with respect to Integrity, corrupt) through an AGGRESSIVE value reorientation campaign using all forms of Public and Private Agencies and media; Tv, radio, internet Print media, even the movies, musical artistes etc. If the President through his powers ( with our Governors and other Political office holders) together with the teeming population can reproduce an 'Integrity' mindset in the average citizen, his work will be made much more easy in fixing Nigeria, cutting down the giant tree of Nigeria problems from its MAIN ROOT. 'Get a person to think of doing a thing AND he will ACTUALLY and ENTHUSIASTICALLY do it.' Get the Nigerian person to think of doing the right thing righlty AND he will ACTUALLY and ENTHUSIASTICALLY do the right thing rightly.' Then will we have many 'high integrity persons' almost everywhere, fixing Nigeria. This way, the 'REAL POSITIVE CHANGE' will be deeply entrenched and sustainable for future generations. A tree cannot make a forest alone, BUT CAN, through reproduction. Just Imagine if every Nigerian was thinking and acting with integrity at the various levels of our society, how our Country will be, Paradise! If we fix our 'Integrity' values as individuals and as a Country, God helping us; Nigeria will become Paradise! _St. Nom S. Pls share till it reaches everyone, We can be Great again, even Greater than ever before!! |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Nobody: 9:21pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Jaideyone:is it by force to work together ? We no wan do, na by force ? |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Eastactivist: 8:35am On Nov 14, 2016 |
abduljabbar4: Sorry to disappoint you, but we have strong Christian unity... And, those are the ones I've always count on not this fake political unity that will never work in the south. They got used after betraying the south and now they think the rest of the south are fools by asking for unity... Fk that shiit |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Eastactivist: 8:40am On Nov 14, 2016 |
Olu317:Thanks for the clarification... The situation is even worse than it appears... You sure say hope dey for them under this yeye one north ran by fulani with this their nonchalant attitude? |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by bugidon(m): 9:19am On Nov 14, 2016 |
I wish southerners and easterners will come together and fight the northern agenda in Nigeria, but if you look at it well you will find out that the yorubas will always shy away When the matter hits up, leaving only the igbos to bear the consequences alone. am not sure if yoruba and igbo aliance will work unless our yoruba counterparts man up and take responsibility like the igbos do. if yorubas also agitate for their freedom am not sure if nigeria will last for two months. so please I implore the yorubas to support the quest for freedom like the igbos so we can mount a good pressure on the government. |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by 4Play(m): 10:38am On Nov 14, 2016 |
Here is my much simplified take on what is going on: Yoruba/Igbo rivalry here and in its latest manifestation is about elite interests. Under GEJ, not only did Yoruba elite feel marginalised, with PDP's rotation formula (with OBJ having had an 8 year stint), power wasn't going to return to the SW until all the other geopolitical regions had had a go - SE/NC/NW, e.t.c. So "teaming up" with Northern political leaders (who were impatient for a power grab) seemed a logical way of breaking up this inevitable stint in the political wilderness. Naturally, the ordinary people's interests do not necessarily allign with the elite's interests, but GEJ's gross incompetence (particularly the wanton theft/corruption) made the argument that a vote for Buhari represented a clean of the augean stables more compelling. What was not reckoned with is that Buhari represented a different kind of incompetence (economic illiteracy on steroids) as damaging, arguably more so, than the anything-goes corruption GEJ enabled. Of course, this is a simplified narrative: there is no monolithic elite and no monolithic North. But this is my best approximation. In the last electoral cycle, the SE were inadvertently right. I say inadvertent because Igbo voters were not driven by a finer appreciation of the qualities of the 2 candidates. Had a more competent Northerner like Ribadu or Sanusi run instead of Buhari, Igbos would still have voted the inept GEJ. It is telling that the SE votes were +90% in favour of GEJ whilst the SW vote is more evenly split suggesting a greater propensity towards herd mentality in the former. 5 Likes |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Truefederalism(m): 9:48am On Nov 15, 2016 |
4Play: You speak english like you know what you are writing, but no, you don't. Who better exhibits herd mentality? The Igbo man who votes based on self/individual interest or the Yoruba who even in Ondo currently, awaits a Tinubu to give orders on who to vote? Bros shift abeg. Let me give you a hint on the present state of the average Igbo mind in Nigeria, and as regards the current yoruba political aloofness. Personally I've never felt as happy about what is wrong like I feel on this issue! It is still a rumour but I wish this turns out right! This is public, Yes! Instead let the North rule Nigeria for 100years. If the North succeeds in totally pushing Tinubu out of APC and into some new party I will be in front, blazing, and campaigning for the North to ride on! It will be "Buhari till 2050!!" Anything to further divide and deride the south is welcome!! God punish Afonja and that crazy patroitic9jaboy that speaks from both sides of his mouth!!! Southern Unity my asssx ..and by the way, Tinubu should not talk or dream about leaving the devilish APC. He signed the alliance and should be made to remain there. If the unity of Nigeria that nobody signed for is sacrosanct, that of the APC that you lot signed for should also be. Again, God punish Afonja! 1 Like |
| Re: WHILE IGBOS AND YORUBA BICKER: The Losses Mount by Olu317(m): 2:20pm On Nov 17, 2016 |
Eastactivist:....Honestly, an average Fulani or Hausa man doesn't believe in hope but only accept what comes their way. They feel everything that happens to human beings is from God. That's the difference between Yoruba man or other groups that shares such believe against their accepted way of life. I am strongly indivisible with my ethnic Yoruba group whose tradition claims that some problems are man made. So, you can see the difference. These majority of people in the lower stratum don't see anything wrong in Nigeria as it is today. I can tell you of a fact that come 2019,an average Hausa /Fulani persons will Vote for PMB either the government favours them or not. This is not an eye opener because since the days of Ahmadu Bello, till infinity, they see only through THEIR LEADERS EYES. It such a sorry case for Northern North of East and West origin. |
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