TomHagen:
When those subjective experiences begin to generate physical effects like healing the sick instantly and changing lives for good, would it still be sensible to regard them as mere subjective experiences? Or would it just be easier to deny them?

Here we go with more absurd claims, this ridiculous claims gets tiresom over time - Now i believe it is now proveable, perhaps you could tender a demonstration and put it to rest and most importantly substantiate your beliefs.

All the vague amorphous claims up there are day to day occurence, let's use something more substantiable..

Regrow an amputated Limb, then i'll take your claims serious.

johnydon22:


Here we go with more absurd claims, this ridiculous claims gets tiresom over time - Now i believe it is now proveable, perhaps you could tender a demonstration and put it to rest and most importantly substantiate your beliefs.

All the vague amorphous claims up there are day to day occurence, let's use something more substantiable..

Regrow an amputated Limb, then i'll take your claims serious.

And your ridiculous denials are laughable. Why do you assume that God is interested in restoring an amputee for your amusement?

Deicide:
Yes i am

Lol. I'm sure you know that you are misotheist. Your choice of monikers na wa?

TomHagen:
Lol. I'm sure you know that you are misotheist. Your choice of monikers na wa?

Can you please focus on the topic and The Question i Asked?

TomHagen:
And your ridiculous denials are laughable. Why do you assume that God is interested in restoring an amputee for your amusement?

But he is able to help me find my Car keys for my Amusement

Deicide:

Can you please focus on the topic and The Question i Asked?

Dreams are dreams. I was just trying to show that not everything can be empirically tested.

TomHagen:
And your ridiculous denials are laughable. Why do you assume that God is interested in restoring an amputee for your amusement?

Nice dodging attempt... But won't work. . You brought up the absurd claims so no running away or giving silly excuses as above..

Lmao seems God is running away from that only interested in ambiguous stuffs like headache..

Awefully unimpressive. . . why not try harder..

Prove your claims and lets establish your belief as objective truth - Regrow an amputated limb..

Why should that be so hard for God? Weren't you so excited when laying out claims?

Don't dodge please.....

Deicide:

But he is able to help me find my Car keys for my Amusement

If He does that, he would only be exercising His Divine prerogative.

Deicide:

But he is able to help me find my Car keys for my Amusement

Or score a goal in a football match, heal headaches but bring up unambiguous example like "Regrow an amputated limbs"

they roll out the silly laughable excuses and tries hard to deny the incompetence of their belief in a vague idea.

TomHagen:
Dreams are dreams. I was just trying to show that not everything can be empirically tested.

ok

johnydon22:
Nice dodging attempt... But won't work. . You brought up the absurd claims so no running away or giving silly excuses as above..

Lmao seems God is running away from that only interested in ambiguous stuffs like headache..

Awefully unimpressive. . . why not try harder..

Prove your claims and lets establish your belief as objective truth - Regrow an amputated limb..

Why should that be so hard for God? Weren't you so excited when laying out claims?

Don't dodge please.....

It isn't hard for Him to do. Nothing is. Have you ever taken an amputee for healing and was disappointed?

TomHagen:
If He does that, he would only be exercising His Divine prerogative.

Why doesn't He exercise this Divine right in regrowing An amputees Limb? but can exercise it to help me find my car keys

TomHagen:
If He does that, he would only be exercising His Divine prerogative.

Seems it's prerogatives are limited to such vague examples - why is it not extended to amputated limbs that made you resort to silly excuses?

It's hard to defend unreal and pass it as real i understand, you'd have to coin out ridiculous excuses at every juncture.

Deicide:

Why doesn't He exercise this Divine right in regrowing An amputees Limb? but can exercise it to help me find my car keys

...and who said He hasn't?

johnydon22:


Or score a goal in a football match, heal headaches but bring up unambiguous example like "Regrow an amputated limbs"

they roll out the silly laughable excuses and tries hard to deny the incompetence of their belief in a vague idea.

When it comes to regrowing an amputated limb They will always have an Excuse

The summary of Christian salvation is basically
GOD: you are scum you are a worthless piece of sh*t basically what ever you think you do and think you are righteous is basically like horse sh*t before my eyes. You can't stand before me with your repulsive stench of iniquity no matter how good you have ever been or will ever be is not good enough. The only way you can even CONSIDER redemption is if you accept the human blood sacrifice I made for you 2000 years ago so you can receive salvation and if you do so much as lack a belief in it I will burn you for all eternity in a fire that the worms will eat your putrid flesh while the rest of your pathetic human race that accepted my ultimatum would continue to kiss my ass for all eternity cuz kissing my ass on earth was not enough
CHRISTIAN: *pause*.....sounds great!

TomHagen:
It isn't hard for Him to do. Nothing is. Have you ever taken an amputee for healing and was disappointed?

An irrelevant dance around, why not simply give me an example or is it easier to deny the obvious?

Deicide:

When it comes to regrowing an amputated limb They will always have an Excuse

Let's enjoy the show -

TomHagen:
...and who said He hasn't?

If u have Evidence That an Amputee limb was Regrown Can you please bring it forward

TomHagen:
...and who said He hasn't?

Nobody sir, we just asked for examples or demonstration...

Deicide:

If u have Evidence That an Amputee limb was Regrown Can you please bring it forward

lets wait for the example but i'm betting on another hilarious excuse

johnydon22:


An irrelevant dance around, why not simply give me an example or is it easier to deny the obvious?

I am sure you must have heard of Smith Wigglesworth, Try not to deny www.revivalhistory.com/blog/smith-wigglesworththat-you-may-marvel/

johnydon22:


lets wait for the example but i'm betting on another hilarious excuse

Yes let's watch the Excuse he'll bring this time Around

TomHagen:
I am sure you must have heard of Smith Wigglesworth, Try not to deny www.revivalhistory.com/blog/smith-wigglesworththat-you-may-marvel/

I have not sir - so what about him?

johnydon22:

I have not sir - so what about him?

Read the link.

TomHagen:
Read the link.

Oh i just did, a story does not prove anything so you still have to prove this tale..

Obviously we already had photographs by the time the alleged event took place, so can we see a before an after photo of the man's limbs?

I'm sure an event of such magnitude would never have gone unnoticed or failed to attract much attention at the time of it's happening.

so sir in order not to make this disgraceful for you, i urge you provide us with tangible proof ..

TomHagen:
I am sure you must have heard of Smith Wigglesworth, Try not to deny www.revivalhistory.com/blog/smith-wigglesworththat-you-may-marvel/

Sir i do not see any limb regrowing in the link you provided

Deicide:

Sir i do not see any limb regrowing in the link you provided

Asin eeeehn this is getting real bad and hot, wouldn't like to be him now

i was expecting at least pictorial evidence even if it's photoshopped but got a story as a meal...

The story of 'Three little pigs' is beginning to sound real to me now

something just as simple as this

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-09.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-38.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-49.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/ProsthesisDevice-67.jpg[/img]

Don't you just love science Don't claim it, just prove it!!!

Deicide:

Sir i do not see any limb regrowing in the link you provided

johnydon22:

Oh i just did, a story does not prove anything so you still have to prove this tale..
Obviously we already had photographs by the time the alleged event took place, so can we see a before an after photo of the man's limbs?
I'm sure an event of such magnitude would never have gone unnoticed or failed to attract much attention at the time of it's happening.
so sir in order not to make this disgraceful for you, i urge you provide us with tangible proof ..

Deicide:

Sir i do not see any limb regrowing in the link you provided

You see why it's useless to attempt to show anything? You'd just deny. You'd call videos and pictures doctored and also you have this erroneous thought that miracles are for your amusement. THEY ARE NOT!!

TomHagen:
You see why it's useless to attempt to show anything? You'd just deny. You'd call videos and pictures doctored and also you have this erroneous thought that miracles are for your amusement. THEY ARE NOT!!

Oga is this another way of agreeing you have nothing? Can you simply agree so you can just sleep better tonight or does it pay to deny the obvious?

TomHagen:
You see why it's useless to attempt to show anything? You'd just deny. You'd call videos and pictures doctored and also you have this erroneous thought that miracles are for your amusement. THEY ARE NOT!!

Sir is this the New Excuse you Are coming Up with? Why not Show us The b4 and After At least even if it's a Picture Photoshop is Acceptable

TomHagen:
You see why it's useless to attempt to show anything? You'd just deny. You'd call videos and pictures doctored and also you have this erroneous thought that miracles are for your amusement. THEY ARE NOT!!

no offence to your beliefs but faith healing isn't reliable evidence usually most people that feel healed are basically feeling a placebo. There have been countless stories of people that died as a result not to mention that smith higgleworth guy had absurd ways of "healing" hitting people, punching them and things like that