Ibime:

Then why do they say that Igbos are flooding everywhere?. . . . its quite obvious that Easterners travel within Nigeria significantly more than Northerners. . . . infact, that is undebatable. . . . the volume of traffic between PH and Aba alone is more than the volume of traffic between North and South

believe what you wish.

According to native tradition, Lagos, or Eko, as it is called
by the natives, was originally founded by a Bini army, who had
in the first instance been despatched by the King of Benin to
collect tribute from his refractory vassals at " Ogulata," a
place to the north of the island on which the present town is
situated. Having failed in his mission, the commander, fearing
to return, settled on the island with his warriors,

Ibime:

Then why do they say that Igbos are flooding everywhere?. . . . its quite obvious that Easterners travel within Nigeria significantly more than Northerners. . . . infact, that is undebatable. . . . the volume of traffic between PH and Aba alone is more than the volume of traffic between North and South  

I dont doubt what you say but why would this railway need to include the SE, if there is more traffic bewtween PH and Aba, then any other place in Nigeria?
Its better if the Govts of eastern states and southsouth build their own railway, instead of complaining about being marginalized by the fed gov.

Abagworo:

According to native tradition, Lagos, or Eko, as it is called
by the natives, was originally founded by a Bini army, who had
in the first instance been despatched by the King of Benin to
collect tribute from his refractory vassals at " Ogulata," a
place to the north of the island on which the present town is
situated. Having failed in his mission, the commander, fearing
to return, settled on the island with his warriors,

Lagos was not founded by a Bini army.

The Binis dispatched a garrison there probably in an attempt to have a foothold for the burgeoning slave trade. In other words, the Portuguese were around and looking for slaves.

tpia.:

Lagos was not founded by a Bini army.

The Binis dispatched a garrison there probably in an attempt to have a foothold for the burgeoning slave trade. In other words, the Portuguese were around and looking for slaves.

in as much as i have documented evidence and link of lagos being founded by bini,i will not argue further because its of no use to the topic.verify from oba of lagos or you can even go to badagry and verify.

sjeezy8:

I dont doubt you say but why would this railway need include the SE, if there is more traffic bewtween PH and Aba, then any other place?
Its better if the Govts of eastern states and southsouth build their own railway, instead of complaining about being marginalized by the fed gov.

Do you have common sense at all?. The funding for these railways come from south east and south south oil wells and you want FG to use it and build railways to nowhere while those that will actually make use of it should figure out a way to build theirs from their allocation. People like you should be banished in Nigeria.

For your information, rail lines run from point A to point B, so its not a question of hey, this project must be cited in my village. Watch the Nigerian govt build that railway from lagos to Damaturu even though the traffic in that route is not up to 1%. The busiest traffic in Nigeria is lagos-Onitsha followed by lagos -Ibadan and people die on these roads in large numbers every year. The FG should first fix the roads to these places before talking about railway. Enough bloodshed.

Aloy~Emeka:

Do you have common sense at all?. The funding for these railways come from south east and south south oil wells and you want FG to use it and build railways to nowhere while those that will actually make use of it should figure out a way to build theirs from their allocation. People like you should be banished in Nigeria.

For your information, rail lines run from point A to point B, so its not a question of hey, this project must be cited in my village. Watch the Nigerian govt build that railway from lagos to Damaturu even though the traffic in that route is not up to 1%. The busiest traffic in Nigeria is lagos-Onitsha followed by lagos -Ibadan and people die on these roads in large numbers every year. The FG should first fix the roads to these places before talking about railway. Enough bloodshed.

Maybe you should think before you type. The governments of eastern and southern states should build their OWN railways MEANING privately funded. Private investors as Lagos state did.

sjeezy8:

Maybe you should think before you type. The governments of eastern and southern states should build their OWN railways MEANING privately funded. Private investors as Lagos state did.

The railway modernisation being proposed would be funded (or at least partly funded) by the FG. I think it makes economic sense to include the railline that leads to Enugu and PHC in the first phase as PHC is the capital of Nigeria's oil wealth.
However, starting with the Kano-Lagos rail is OK

It is easy to solve a lot of the transort / business issues in that area.
Delta state needs to expand Warri port with a state funded wing and totally open up state funded routes between Asaba and Warri.
There is also no reason why smaller vessels cannot berth at Asaba.
Anambra and Delta can cooperate to build another bridge to span the Niger. There is already an international airport being built at Asaba.

Similar can happen between Rivers and Abia, with the ports in PH expanded with state funding. PH has an international airport.

A lot of business can also harness cheap travel up the Niger river, up through Lokoja and then Westward. Lets wait for the dredging of the Niger.

Which rail way did lagos state build? and to where?. will you compare the cost of  a railway from Asaba to PH to one built inside Lagos metropolis? . They have railways in Lagos, Enugu etc before and many of them are still functional even though there are visible amounts of decay. Show me where babapupa and fashola built a new railway in Lagos.

Aloy~Emeka:

Do you have common sense at all?. The funding for these railways come from south east and south south oil wells and you want FG to use it and build railways to nowhere while those that will actually make use of it should figure out a way to build theirs from their allocation. People like you should be banished in Nigeria.

For your information, rail lines run from point A to point B, so its not a question of hey, this project must be cited in my village. Watch the Nigerian govt build that railway from lagos to Damaturu even though the traffic in that route is not up to 1%. The busiest traffic in Nigeria is lagos-Onitsha followed by lagos -Ibadan and people die on these roads in large numbers every year. The FG should first fix the roads to these places before talking about railway. Enough bloodshed.

hehehehe. . .  .dont even bother trying to teach common sense to sjeezy. . . . if they like, they can build the line from Lagos to Borno. . . . more chance for Boko Haram to slip in undetected. . .

In all seriousness, if we are talking about this rail line driving the economy, then demand must be foremost in any decision process. . . . and we all know where the demand is greatest.

sjeezy8:

Maybe you should think before you type. The governments of eastern and southern states should build their OWN railways MEANING privately funded. Private investors as Lagos state did.

rubbish!rubbish!

in future some northerners will say abuja was not developed with oil blood money.shame on people like sjeezy8.

sjeezy8:

Maybe you should think before you type. The governments of eastern and southern states should build their OWN railways MEANING privately funded. Private investors as Lagos state did.

Which rail way did lagos state build? and to where?. will you compare the cost of  a railway from Asaba to PH to one built inside Lagos metropolis? . They have railways in Lagos, Enugu etc before and many of them are still functional even though there are visible amounts of decay. Show me where babapupa and fashola built a new railway in Lagos.

Abagworo:

in as much as i have documented evidence and link of lagos being founded by bini,i will not argue further because its of no use to the topic.verify from oba of lagos or you can even go to badagry and verify.

Portuguese saying they met a Bini garrison at lagos does not mean Bini founded lagos.

Oba of lagos orgins are clearly documented and also available in oral tradition- I'd suggest you look at the Yoruba ones as well if you can put aside your innate dislike of Yorubas for one moment.

sjeezy8:

Maybe you should think before you type. The governments of eastern and southern states should build their OWN railways MEANING privately funded. Private investors as Lagos state did.

Don't bring Lagos here. People are stealing your money under your noses, planting a few flowers; yet, the blind and dim ones like you have set up a personality cult. All they have to say is "public - private partnership" and a lot of folk look at the growing flowers and turn stupid.

History of the past and present Oba of Lagos.
Lagos dynasty since 1600

ASHIPA (1600-1630)
Ashipa was regarded as the founder of dynasty of Lagos. He was the son Oba of Benin. He was acting as the leader of the people of Lagos but not as the king. He serves as the intermediary between the Oba of Benin and the people of Lagos (eko),he spent 27 years as the leader of eko ,and died in 1630 and his son Ado took over his responsibility.
OBA ADO (1630-1669)
Oba ado, the son of ashipa took over the leadership role played by his father in 1630 during his own reign, he was elevated to an Oba and was crown as the king of Lagos by the Oba of Benin. Oba ado became the first Oba of Lagos. Oba ado had three children,2 males and 1 female. They include (Gabaro, Akinsemoyin, and Erelu Kuti).Oba ado ruled for 39years. He joined his ancestor in 1669 and his first son Gabaro succeeded him.
OBA GABARO (1669-1704)

Lagos was a part of the Edo empire. It founded as an army garrison to oversee the Republic of Benin (named after Benin City, Togo and some Ghanaian areas).
Isn't it interesting that the Republic of Benin is named after Benin City? Even its former name, Dahomey was the name of an Edo General (Isi Dahomen), he was Ishan.

The Oba of Lagos is descended from Benin. Even today, the Oba of Benin still sends Chiefs to crown any new Oba of Lagos.
Almost all chieftancy customs etc have Edo origins.

Even "Eko" is an Edo word.

Aloy~Emeka:

Which rail way did lagos state build? and to where?. will you compare the cost of  a railway from Asaba to PH to one built inside Lagos metropolis? . They have railways in Lagos, Enugu etc before and many of them are still functional even though there are visible amounts of decay. Show me where babapupa and fashola built a new railway in Lagos.

Working around the FG, by privately funding projects.

I love the historical dimension to this thread.
Keep it coming!!!

lets not derail the thread

Beaf:

Lagos was a part of the Edo empire. It founded as an army garrison to oversee the Republic of Benin (named after Benin City, Togo and some Ghanaian areas).
Isn't it interesting that the Republic of Benin is named after Benin City? Even its former name, Dahomey was the name of an Edo General (Isi Dahomen), he was Ishan.

The Oba of Lagos is descended from Benin. Even today, the Oba of Benin still sends Chiefs to crown any new Oba of Lagos.
Almost all chieftancy customs etc have Edo origins.

Even "Eko" is an Edo word.

Wasn't Dahomey named Benin because it was on the Bight of Benin?

sjeezy8:

lets not derail the thread

Those who pee on their past always get shy when found out. Thats life.

I remember you calling ND and Igbo people monkeys. Ask your dad, your blood could be from the ND. Ignorant little fu.ckwit.

Abagworo:

History of the past and present Oba of Lagos.
Lagos dynasty since 1600

ASHIPA (1600-1630)
Ashipa was regarded as the founder of dynasty of Lagos. He was the son Oba of Benin. He was acting as the leader of the people of Lagos but not as the king. He serves as the intermediary between the Oba of Benin and the people of Lagos (eko),he spent 27 years as the leader of eko ,and died in 1630 and his son Ado took over his responsibility.
OBA ADO (1630-1669)
Oba ado, the son of ashipa took over the leadership role played by his father in 1630 during his own reign, he was elevated to an Oba and was crown as the king of Lagos by the Oba of Benin. Oba ado became the first Oba of Lagos. Oba ado had three children,2 males and 1 female. They include (Gabaro, Akinsemoyin, and Erelu Kuti).Oba ado ruled for 39years. He joined his ancestor in 1669 and his first son Gabaro succeeded him.
OBA GABARO (1669-1704)

The official residence of the Oba, since 1630, is Iga Idungaran, a castle constructed by the Portuguese (finished in 1705)

wiki

during military rule in Nigeria, governors are appointed to states outside their ethnic origin. If a Yoruba man is the governor of Imo state, does that mean Yorubas founded Imo.

People in lagos predated 1600 when Ashipa supposedly ruled.

sjeezy8:

Maybe you should think before you type. The governments of eastern and southern states should build their OWN railways MEANING privately funded. Private investors as Lagos state did.

How can it be privately funded when Lagos line connects to Kano? Think please.

Beaf:

Lagos was a part of the Edo empire. It founded as an army garrison to oversee the Republic of Benin (named after Benin City, Togo and some Ghanaian areas).
Isn't it interesting that the Republic of Benin is named after Benin City? Even its former name, Dahomey was the name of an Edo General (Isi Dahomen), he was Ishan.

The Oba of Lagos is descended from Benin. Even today, the Oba of Benin still sends Chiefs to crown any new Oba of Lagos.
Almost all chieftancy customs etc have Edo origins.

Even "Eko" is an Edo word.

lagos was a slave port, and not this story you're cooking up here.

True, there was interaction between Benin, Dahomey and Ghana, hence Lagos was a desirable prize for all three.

The Portuguese established slave ports all along the west African coast, and lagos was one of them.

Dahomey means In Da's belly.

@Bluetooth,U are an idiot with no opinion,just shut the hell up if U ve nothing intelligent to say.
@Sjeezy,
Of all the lots studying abroad,U are the most unintelligent(that's if realy U re studying abroad),i strongly doubt U re a student abroad,U lack perspectives and intelligence the way U in the way U discuss,U just talk any how with no class and persuasion.
@Poster,
U are not the only one asking that question,how come there's a plan,first phase or not and there's no mention of any SS or SE routes.Even if they claim it's the first phase,my question is,what are the criteria for the selection of those other routes mostly in states that don't have much economic importance,I mean besides lagos and Kano,which of those other state rout can claim to have more need or deserves it better than commercial areas in the SE like Aba,Onitsha,Nnewi or even Enugu the coal city,or even oil producing states in SS States like Portharcourt or even Asaba.No1 can possibly argue that there is more movement of ppl in north-sw ro

^^ obviously you feel oil is the be-all and do-all.

Hence your inability to fathom the fact that despite oil, the govt still wasnt in a hurry to construct a railroad directly from the Niger Delta to the north.

or maybe you're typing in shock.

anyway, just for your education- they still have to bring the existing rail network into consideration before new construction begins.

tpia.:

lagos was a slave port, and not this story you're cooking up here.

True, there was interaction between Benin, Dahomey and Ghana, hence Lagos was a desirable prize for all three.

The Portuguese established slave ports all along the west African coast, and lagos was one of them.

Dahomey means In Da's belly.

Past Obas (Kings)
Main article: Oba of Lagos
Ashipa (1600-1630) died on the way back to Benin
King Ado (1630-1669) first King of Lagos
King Gabaro (1669-1704)
King Akinsemoyin (1704-1749)
Eletu Kekere (1749)
King Ologun Kutere (1749-1775)
Adele Ajosun (1775-1780 & 1832-1834)
Eshilokun (1780-1819)
Oba Idewu Ojulari (1819-1832)
King Oluwole (1836-1841)
King Akintoye (1841-1845 & 1851-1853)
Oba Kosoko (1845-1851)
King Dosunmu [Docemo] (1853-1885)
Oba Oyekan (1885-1900)
Oba Esugbayi Eleko (1901-1925 & 1932)
Oba Ibikunle Akitoye (1925-1928)
Oba Sanusi Olusi (1928-1931)
Oba Falolu (1932-1949)
Oba Adeniji Adele (1949-1964)
Oba Adeyinka Oyekan II (1965-2003)
Oba Rilwan Akiolu (2003-present)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos

More from Lagos Mega City website http://lagosmegacityproject.com/history_of_lagos

Beaf:

Past Obas (Kings)
Main article: Oba of Lagos
Ashipa (1600-1630) died on the way back to Benin
King Ado (1630-1669) first King of Lagos
King Gabaro (1669-1704)
King Akinsemoyin (1704-1749)
Eletu Kekere (1749)
King Ologun Kutere (1749-1775)
Adele Ajosun (1775-1780 & 1832-1834)
Eshilokun (1780-1819)
Oba Idewu Ojulari (1819-1832)
King Oluwole (1836-1841)
King Akintoye (1841-1845 & 1851-1853)
Oba Kosoko (1845-1851)
King Dosunmu [Docemo] (1853-1885)
Oba Oyekan (1885-1900)
Oba Esugbayi Eleko (1901-1925 & 1932)
Oba Ibikunle Akitoye (1925-1928)
Oba Sanusi Olusi (1928-1931)
Oba Falolu (1932-1949)
Oba Adeniji Adele (1949-1964)
Oba Adeyinka Oyekan II (1965-2003)
Oba Rilwan Akiolu (2003-present)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos

Prior to the Portuguese name of Lagos being adopted, Lagos was originally called Eko, which stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm" or Eko ("war camp", by its Bini conquerors. History has it that the Oba of Bini sent various trade expeditions to Ghana where spices were traded and one of his traders complained about the way she was being treated by the Awori's. The Oba of Bini then sent a trade expedition by sea. Ironically, the leader of the expedition arrived in the evening at a time when the people who were predominantly fishermen were either wading into the water or getting into their boats to gather their catch. He declined to engage them further and returned to what is now called Benin City where he reported to the Oba of Bini that they were attacked. This prompted the Oba of Bini to constitute a war expedition led by Ado, a Bini Prince to go to Lagos and demand an explanation. This was over 650 years ago. However, on getting there, they were well received. The people were so enamored with Ado they asked him to stay and lead them. He agreed on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Bini to which they agreed. The Oba of Bini was told this and he gave his permission for the expedition to remain. The Oba of Bini later sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist Ado in the running of Eko

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos

More from the Erelu kuti Foundation http://www.eraffoundation.org/erelukuti.php

More from Lagos Mega City website http://lagosmegacityproject.com/history_of_lagos

Whats the argument and ? does it have to do with D topic?

ezeagu:

Wasn't Dahomey named Benin because it was on the Bight of Benin?

ezeagu:

Whats the argument and ? does it have to do with D topic?