According to genesis chapter 2 vs 9, God planted the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of eden my question is why did God plant that tree there? especially when he doesnt want adam to eat it what did he hope to achieve by putting an unwanted tree in the garden?

Because it is confused, incompetent, sadistic and imaginary

kingcity:
According to genesis chapter 2 vs 9, God planted the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of eden my question is why did God plant that tree there? especially when he doesnt want adam to eat it what did he hope to achieve by putting an unwanted tree in the garden?

Your question have answers when you read the ISLAMIC point of view.....

Lagusta:


Your question have answers when you read the ISLAMIC point of view.....

what's the islamic point of view?

kingcity:
what's the islamic point of view?

When God created Adam and Eve, He gave them the instruction to eat everything their eyes could behold, but should not go near that tree, for it woukd lead to their downfall....

But Satan misled them (Islamically, we don't say there was a serpent or whatever, Na devil do am) and they both ate of it....

God send them down to the earth, but at the same time, taught them words of forgiveness, which they recited, and God forgave them....

And after the Cain and Abel story and everything, and their death, they were admitted into paradise again....

Now what are the lessons??

1) God is our supreme creator, and gives instructions with stern warnings if violated, the same way a teacher gives instructions to students....

2) Man is prone to error and sin, being tempted and misled by the devil always.....

3) However, God is ready to forgive if one truly repents, but a severe punishment await those who believe they are greater than God....

This, however is a summary, a comprehensive guide can be found in authentic islamic literature....

You know that God is called the Almighty for a reason right. Everything he does is right and just. Man on the other hand was created in the image and likeness of God and so he was equally good and spotless. Being made in the image and likeness of God man was given the power of reason and the gift of free will. The tree was the test to how man will exercise that gift and the consequence of which righteousness will be ascribed to him or unrighteousness which will let him fall from grace.

The tree was planted so that man will decide his own fate and not God choosing his path for him. The choice has been made and we have all seen the consequences. If it wasnt a tree, God would certainly had set any other kind of test for our first parents to prove their loyalty to his laws or commands. To choose their destiny whether they would be righteous or not.

I hope I answered u well

hahn:
Because it is confused, incompetent, sadistic and imaginary

This your unbelief has gradually metamorphosed into spiteful hate and dont you think it is awkward hating what u believe doesn't exist

freeradical:
This your unbelief has gradually metamorphosed into spiteful hate and dont you think it is awkward hating what u believe doesn't exist

He is a restless and pitiable soul. Pray for him if you can...

Is it really so difficult to believe that your creator actually wants you to demonstrate your loyalty to him before you can be admitted to eternal bliss with him?

Was there freewill before Adam and Eve ate the food?

theoneJabulani:
Was there freewill before Adam and Eve ate the food?

of course they always had free will even before the fall

Freeradical, that was nice. The whole essence of the tree is freewill. God is just and fair, and if He is truly just He must give everyone the chance to choose between Him and following after evil. He gave this same choice to angels.

That Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil still exists in the choices we make. Learn from the fall of Adam. Evil, no matter how innocent looking, always has disastrous consequences in the end. Nothing like living right in Christ.

skeendyke:
Freeradical, that was nice. The whole essence of the tree is freewill. God is just and fair, and if He is truly just He must give everyone the chance to choose between Him and following after evil. He gave this same choice to angels.

That Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil still exists in the choices we make. Learn from the fall of Adam. Evil, no matter how innocent looking, always has disastrous consequences in the end. Nothing like living right in Christ.

You are spot on @skeendyke in ur analysis. The serpent did not force them to eat the fruit. Rather it told them that eating the fruit would make them be like God. Analysing this proposition with their reason they must have thought to themselves how cool it would feel being of equal pedestal with God. They weighed this against God's threat that it would lead to their death. They believed the serpent over God and made their choice. Who knows what sinister plans they had when they would become like God?

That's the origin of everything bad we see in the world today. As man fell from grace the earth fell too with him. Thank God for his omniscience. He already knew the way to bring man back to his lost glory. He was going to send his Christ to save the world.

The story its self is filled with plot holes.
If God knows everything then he knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit before he even created them.
Adam and Eve didn't know good from evil so how did they know disobeying God was bad.
Sack the writer

Lennycool:
The story its self is filled with plot holes.
If God knows everything then he knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit before he even created them.
Adam and Eve didn't know good from evil so how did they know disobeying God was bad.
Sack the writer

That is why he is God. You know just like u he has his own personality. He can also choose to take any line of action that is pleasing to him. He knows that despite man's fall he can still be saved. For the devil and his followers, there is no sabing because in his omniscience he has seen that their hate of his authority is eternal. The beautiful xtic of God is that in all his choices he is righteous, fair and just. He decided to go ahead and make man because he knew that he will reconcile him to himself again. And the new man will be far better than the first. Amd every event will in the end serve his purpose.

The writers of the Bible needed man to commit a 'sin' against God, so that's the best they could come up with.

freeradical:
That is why he is God. You know just like u he has his own personality. He can also choose to take any line of action that is pleasing to him. He knows that despite man's fall he can still be saved. For the devil and his followers, there is no sabing because in his omniscience he has seen that their hate of his authority is eternal. The beautiful xtic of God is that in all his choices he is righteous, fair and just. He decided to go ahead and make man because he knew that he will reconcile him to himself again. And the new man will be far better than the first. Amd every event will in the end serve his purpose.

Sorry my friend but you are wrong.
God knew everything man would do after creation, yet he cursed man for eating the apple, he sent a worldwide flood to destroy man and even regretted creating them. Does this seem like an all knowing all loving intelligent God?

Lennycool:

Sorry my friend but you are wrong.
God knew everything man would do after creation, yet he cursed man for eating the apple, he sent a worldwide flood to destroy man and even regretted creating them. Does this seem like an all knowing all loving intelligent God?

My man I dnt think u r being fair in your critcism of your creator. U agree with me that man was created with d power to determine his destiny. Are u otherwise stating that free will given to man is not a good thing. Why hold God responsible for the bad choices man has made for himself.

You and I weren't alive to have witnessed the level of depravity on earth that made the Lord decide to reset creation with a deluge. But as a xtian guided by the holy spirit in me, I trust that it was a just and righteous call. In matters of religion u never can take away the place of faith. Even the choice of unbelief requires a level of faith

DeSepiero:
The writers of the Bible needed man to commit a 'sin' against God, so that's the best they could come up with.

Very funny

God has given each and everyone of us CHOICE,to chuz between good nd evil,wrong nd right etcetera, they choosed to eat from d tree of evil evn after dey wr warned so pls we can't blame God.Evn in our practical daily lives wen we r faced with temptations, we still hv the wat we call CHOICE to do dat act or not,if u r able to overcome it ,u notice dat u feel happier,dats it.OK bye

freeradical:
My man I dnt think u r being fair in your critcism of your creator. U agree with me that man was created with d power to determine his destiny. Are u otherwise stating that free will given to man is not a good thing. Why hold God responsible for the bad choices man has made for himself.

Don't you see that the story itself is very flawed.
Why did God create the devil in the first place knowing fully well what he would do?
Reason.

Lennycool:

Don't you see that the story itself is very flawed.
Why did God create the devil in the first place knowing fully well what he would do?
Reason.

In the order of creation angels were created before man. They were spirit beings with tremendous power. Lucifer was an angel but his pride made hm fall from glory to being the devil. Its d same abuse of freewill that led Lucifer and his minions to rebel against God. Try to understand d concept of freewill first and u will stop having all these misconception about your creator. The omniscient power of God has made hI'm know that in d end everything will turn out well. Do u know how all this will end?

freeradical:
In the order of creation angels were created before man. They were spirit beings with tremendous power. Lucifer was an angel but his pride made hm fall from glory to being the devil. Its d same abuse of freewill that led Lucifer and his minions to rebel against God. Try to understand d concept of freewill first and u will stop having all these misconception about your creator. The omniscient power of God has made hI'm know that in d end everything will turn out well. Do u know how all this will end?

So because the knew everything would turn bout well he created the devil?
Every pain inflicted on every human was allowed by God then.
The starving children all around the world that die each they because of extreme hunger is because of God.
All the terrorist attack like 911 was because of God.
All the natural disaster and disease that has killed millions was caused by God.
All the people that are supposed to go to hell and burn for ever was because of God, as Satan was the one responsible for the first sin.

How is this God supposed to be loving?
You say it will be better in the future, but that does not take away the very real suffering countless people suffer around the world all because he created the devil.

Lennycool:

So because the knew everything would turn bout well he created the devil?
Every pain inflicted on every human was allowed by God then.
The starving children all around the world that die each they because of extreme hunger is because of God.
All the terrorist attack like 911 was because of God.
All the natural disaster and disease that has killed millions was caused by God.
All the people that are supposed to go to hell and burn for ever was because of God, as Satan was the one responsible for the first sin.

How is this God supposed to be loving?
You say it will be better in the future, but that does not take away the very real suffering countless people suffer around the world all because he created the devil.

Your thought pattern is flawed my friend. Id throw light on this later

modified: The way u r erroneously blaming God for all the evil in the world makes me wonder if by some experience u feel God has failed you hence your anger at him. It doesn't make sense if you apply the concept of freewill to hold God accountable for the actioms of his creations. Its unfortunate that evil came into the world but that should not make you lose your faith. Do not make yourself an enemy of your own maker. There are many mysteries about life that you and I do not understand but everything about our human nature points towards a higher plane of existence. That we are created beings. Do not deny this part of your nature. God still loves u bro

freeradical:
Your thought pattern is flawed my friend. Id throw light on this later

No my friend yours is. I was once like you trying so hard to interpret the bible and God in good light. I blinded myself to how illogical it seemed as you do now.

Lennycool:

No my friend yours is. I was once like you trying so hard to interpret the bible and God in good light. I blinded myself to how illogical it seemed as you do now.

The flaw in your arguement is that u keep ascribing the faults of the created beings to the creator. Do u think God erred by giving these beings the @bility to think and choose freely?

... Was cannabis the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE??

Lennycool:

No my friend yours is. I was once like you trying so hard to interpret the bible and God in good light. I blinded myself to how illogical it seemed as you do now.

You cant ever be like me same as I cant be like u. Each and everyone of us have a different life pattern to lead. If u have led my life probably u will have strong conviction that God is real and is good and worthy of your worship. Prolly if I led ur life I wud have given in to my unbelief. What is true however is that you were never like me bro.

KyleBrry:
... Was cannabis the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE??

That thing that makes you guys slow and dull

freeradical:
The flaw in your arguement is that u keep ascribing the faults of the created beings to the creator. Do u think God erred by giving these beings the @bility to think and choose freely?

God does not exist.

Lennycool:

God does not exist.

What is your proof to that claim? Convince me.