dramenda:

NO CAURSE FOR CONTROL EVERYTHING IS UNDER ALARM,

switch47:

  LIE!! i guess at this point we should focus on the tounament and not bring this up. matters like this should be hotly debated either before or after the U-17 world cup. just enjoy the games for now. all the bomb shells can follow after the games. thanks.

Scenario Abuja stadium     ( Germany vs Argentina)
  Germany trailing 2-1 and in a hurry) Ball goes out of play
German skipper to ball boy
G skipper-  Hey you small R*t get me the F8ucking ball
Ball boy- you dey crase, no be 2 years you take senior me, me and your goalkeeper na mate o

same day

Nigeria vs Honduras

Nigerian skipper-(to the same ball boy) o boy throw this ball sharp sharp na.
Ball boy- Uncle , you dont forget my name?
Nigeria skipper- (quickly asks) i know you before, common throw ball give me.Abi Ogun dey kill you??
Ball Ball- Uncle no vex, Mr Godey Aighbge  pikin, you dey come pluck coconut for we area, My papa na your junior for school. i hail o

 

FBS:

@Sagamite, I'd expect you to be more open on this.

1. Have you ever thought of where the phrase "football age" came from?

FBS:

2. At least 3 (if not more) of the players in The Manshaft featured for the Euro U-17 last year and by all means they DO NOT look that age. Much more older if you ask me.

FBS:

3. The tests were performed both in Nigeria and and you don't know for a fact that the test performed in Doha was by Nigerian officials. . .That my brother nullifies that claim (that the two test were performed by Nigerian officials). Those who failed were dropped, what other proof are you looking for?

FBS:

4. The highligted is a GROSS MISTAKE on your path. Boris Onischenko, Fred Lorz, Briatore, Michael Schumacher, The Spanish Paralympics Basketball Team and a host of others. Do they sound familiar to you?

FBS:

5. If truely, Adokie is saying the truth then I second the idea that not only should Chukwudi come out and debunk these claims, Adokie should also mention other players that played in the same team with him (Chukwudi).

FBS:

6. Looking at the players in this tourney, one can boldly say that most of them "look" more than 17 with the exception of Brazil, Gambia and maybe one or two other countries. 

Sagamite:

No. What is your point?

What is "The Manshaft"? Sounds German to me but confirm. And if it is, are you saying Germany are using over-aged players? If so, where do you reside?

It does not nullify anything, you are just looking for any small element of doubt you can throw in the equation (I saw you doing the same in the Ribadu $15m thread despite overwhelming logical conclusions). That is why I have gone to do extensive research to ensure I don't give you the space. Nigeria was the one that did the scan in Nigeria and Doha, FIFA is going to do it on random players AT THE tournament. Evidence is here because I knew you will not accept logical conclusions:

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/developing/medical/news/newsid=1121679.html

As I said, I understand the Naija mentality & style and I think I predicted correctly, considering this fact I just dug up. http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Sport/5471586-147/Player_dropped_for_failing_age_test.csp

And your point is?

Agreed. But after the tournament, no point huffing and puffing now and distracting the team.

I repeat, all the players of Western advanced countries are ALL at or below 17

FBS:

Sorry but how else do you want me to explain?

FBS:

Where I reside is irrelevant to this subject matter and yes Manshaft is German. (Where is Dayo when you need him  )

FBS:

Oh there you go. And what will you say if and when FIFA conducts their test and ALL the players including Chukwudi pass the test?  

FBS:

Really, I don't know what you call a logical conclusion? Ribadu said Ibori gave him money. Ibori said No, I never did. Waziri comes out (in The US) and says, yes there is $15M waiting at CBN and deposited by Ribadu. Is that what you call logical? Well, well, well. . .

FBS:

Again, the idea of lumping everyone to one corner is a nonsense attitude. Not what I expect from someone like you.

FBS:

If you don't know that those names I gave you top the list of ALL time cheats in the history of sports, then I have nothing else to say to you.

FBS:

Did you hear me say otherwise,  My point was that he SHOULD prove this and NOT by simply saying so.
Heck, I can go on and say Obama was my classmate. Prove me wrong. 

FBS:

Well, what can I say? Don't believe everything you read.

Ibime:

Chief Adokiye Amaesimaka has never disappointed me.

I salute the chief for exposing the sordid underbelly of the NFF.

Ibime:

FBS, why you too dey argue blindly out of patriotism?

Na because them no born you for jand?

All them jandon players are under-17 abegi.

The only jandon players who falsify age are the immigrants who've naturalised like Gerald Asamoah of Schalke and Germany.

Sagamite:

Explain why you are asking me if I know the origin of the term "football age".

OK, it is Germany (could have been the Swiss as well). And your point when you say they played in the Euro U-17 is?

I doubt he would.  

If he does, fine. There is a margin of error, but if you are willing to use a test with error element, then you must be willing to accept the errors.

But Chukwudi at 27   would not pass it.

Logical conclusion is that Ribadu is very unlikely to have $15m to through away just to frame ONE man. A man with previous fraud conviction and with enough evidence on display in London to arrest him for looting and living beyond his wildest dream's limit, billions of money missing in the state coffers he ran and trying to use lawyers to block or delay any court case is not a man under logical conclusions to trust whatever doubt you have of Ridabu. But that is for another thread.

I am not lumping everyone, I am just lumping the vast majority in public office.

All time cheats?  

Come off it, mate!

How did you assess it to be that? If I ask you to allocate a weighting to their crimes, it would be minute to what we do at even school level.

The reason whatever they did is made so big is that it is the exception seen in such environments. Ours? . . . . .  

I never said you said otherwise. I just agreed with you and added a few more opinions of mine.

You obviously don't live in a western country and hence don't understand the social system there.

Ibime:

FBS, why you too dey argue blindly out of patriotism?

Na because them no born you for jand?

All them jandon players are under-17 abegi.

The only jandon players who falsify age are the immigrants who've naturalised like Gerald Asamoah of Schalke and Germany.

Sagamite:

He obviously does not recognise the level of strict record-keeping in advanced countries and the roles that tabloids play in exposing public lies.

YOU CAN'T LIE ABOUT YOUR AGE IF YOU ARE BORN IN THE WEST.

If you do, someone that knows you would sell the story for thousands of £s to the tabloids and your whole history would be dug up.

I bet you, virtually all the Western players would still be in school where records of their history in school is available.

But I bet, most of the Naija players will have records saying they finished school at 10 or 12 years old.

Football and academic geniuses, they are.

saworoide:

I don't think anybody disagreed with the fact that Adokiye was saying the truth. We all know some if not all the players are overaged.

However, if anyone can show me where Adokiye shouted this b4 the tournament, I will no longer question his intention. If a friend of your use his son to make money rituals and you only come out to expose him when he about to be given a chieftaincy title, wouldn't people ask you why you kept silent all along?

The team list was made public, nairaland inclusive, why will he come out now when the boys are marching to glory. I seriously doubt he has good intentions for this so called revelation.

FBS:

Er, let me see. . .someone started this i.e the culture of cheating you referred to originated from somewhere else. Do you get the picture now?

FBS:

Tell me Thy, Yabo et all look like 17 yrs? Give me a break dude.

FBS:

First you are doubting and later you trying to be affirmative? If by chance Chukwudi is selected by FIFA and this test is performed on him and he fails, then I say that is BAD. But what if he passes.? You can't be certain or are you?

FBS:

Exactly but nothing NO logical conclusions about what you posted because this is influenced by your position on this issue.

FBS:

Now Google and type "greatest cheats in the history of sport" and see what comes up?

FBS:

The level at which these people cheated are way above understanding. Take the Spanish Paralympics Basketball team as an example. 10 out of 12 players were found out not to have any form of disabilities at all.
Now are you telling Spain is not part of western world or that the coaches never knew this before hand?

FBS:

You don't know me, you don't even know where I live and yet you are making "illogical" conclusions.  What an irony?

blacknight:

why are we abusing adokiye? i know furtune chukwudi very well he lives at no 62 afipko street mile 1 diobu portharcourt, Rivers State. Chichi as popurlaly called did not include his surname because both furtune and Chukwudi are his first names That lad is close to 31 yrs  he  played for bright stars football club as an u17 player 7yrs ago how come in is still 16yrs now.

blacknight:

why are we abusing adokiye? i know furtune chukwudi very well he lives at no 62 afipko street mile 1 diobu portharcourt, Rivers State. Chichi as popurlaly called did not include his surname because both furtune and Chukwudi are his first names That lad is close to 31 yrs  he  played for bright stars football club as an u17 player 7yrs ago how come in is still 16yrs now.

FBS:

@Sagamite,
This UK? this same UK?

1. You are either brainwashed to believe that everyone, everything and anything coming from the west "cannot" lie or just acting so.

FBS:

2. I gave you an example of spain yet you are telling me its only a one case scenario. If able bodies can lie that they are disabled, then that should you tell you how far they can go. Reminds me of an episode in South Park.

FBS:

3. Element of doubt exist in everything and that is why you need a SOLID proof for everything. Thousands of people have been acquitted due to lack of evidence and yet you are telling me I do not live in the west. Honestly, if only you know my abode. Funny enough I told you Obama was my class mate. . .now tell me, is that a fact or not?

FBS:

5. None of the the German players look U-17 to me. Now bite me.

Ibime:

Chief Adokiye Amaesimaka has never disappointed me.

I salute the chief for exposing the sordid underbelly of the NFF.

They might not look it to you, but they are.

FBS:

1. The "West" can lie. It makes no difference on the subject or issue that they are trying to cover up. (This is PARAMOUNT).

FBS:

2. Chukwudi should come out and debunk the claims against him

FBS:

3. The timing (if it is true) is pathetically "wrong". It should have been done either before or after but NOT NOW!