sava2:
Wole Soyinka , Nobel price winner went to public school

That was when educationa was still good not now


Anyway thunder fire atiku and his 2019 dream

This man want to rule

TruthisGOD:
Educated fool. He thinks that the mere speaking of English shows how intelligent one is. That is how the ruin the country with their warp and poor mentality thoughts. Try those kids in Physics and Maths quiz in a neutral enviroment, you'll know how intelligent they are.

He was part of those that ruined the system,now he is blaming the unfortunate students. He is a big fool for saying this kind of nonsense.

TruthisGOD:
Educated fool. He thinks that the mere speaking of English shows how intelligent one is. That is how the ruin the country with their warp and poor mentality thoughts. Try those kids in Physics and Maths quiz in a neutral enviroment, you'll know how intelligent they are.

If Atiku sees your comment, "he will say didn't I say it". You said That is how "the" ruin the country...
Abeg always read your comments well because Atiku is a member of Nairaland and he sees these mistakes and laughs at us Nigerian graduates!

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sava2:
May be in the east where goodluck Jonathan comes from.

It shows.

They cheat in exam in the east. That why they score high marks.

They too many as minister in Buhari govt that why they are not doing well

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sava2:
May be in the east where goodluck Jonathan comes from.

It shows.

They cheat in exam in the east. That why they score high marks.

They too many as minister in Buhari govt that why they are not doing well

sava2:
May be in the east where goodluck Jonathan comes from.

It shows.

They cheat in exam in the east. That why they score high marks.

They too many as minister in Buhari govt that why they are not doing well

Just take a look at your composition. Judging by grammer alone you shouldn't have the right to comment on any section here ever!

sava2:
Nigerian are smart people, they tried to clone human.

They have bad government. Not that they are not smart.

What I believe is the way an individual take education. I Alway read every day. Because you get older and you start losing your momery. So I try to read all day. to gain back my momery of event, this why I am online.

I want to remember things.

I went to school under the military, I never had civillian government education. But it looks the civilian are doing bad.

We should not shoot the messenger. Or throw away the baby with the bath water.

From all the irritation exhibited here you would think that there is no truth in Atiku's statement. But thats how Nigerians react to issues...without separating the facts from fiction.

Yes, Atiku was over praising his product...but then again he is a businessman. So no surprise there.

About Education falling behind in Nigeria... You only need to read comments on Nairaland or any other online forum (eg Facebook posts) to know it's true.

And before you start advancing the argument that knowledge of English doesn't mean knowledge of Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Mathematics, Literature, Economics, etc, please remember that these subjects have their instruction materials prepared in English. Hence, any incompetence in English will to a great degree affect a student’s competence in these academic fields. Also before you advance the Chinese example, remember that in China students are taught with textbooks and other instruction materials prepared in the Chinese language.

Look around you. How many older folks who only attended STANDARD SIX in the old days murder grammar the way the present generation does. How many intellectuals commit lingual abominations when they open their mouth or when they write?

Today, a University graduate does not know the difference between "has" and "have" or "do" and "does". So you hear a graduate saying "I doesn't like people who has no sense". It's pathetic. The sooner we stop embracing and making excuses for mediocrity the sooner we will grow as a people.

Lastly, most people here are irritated because UNIZIK was mentioned. Let me break it to you...you are missing the point here. Stop carrying an evil child because you are the mother!!!

sava2:
In an English speaking country. Yes.

Many Nigerian do speak good English.

Nigerian speak better English than American or Canadian.

Nigerian speak the Queen's English.

90% of American or Canadian will fail the GCE exam.

Simple sentence you can't make correctly and you have the guts to write this poo *autocorrect

sava2:
Wole Soyinka , Nobel price winner went to public school

...attended a public school.

And why wont it be when you stole govt money to build up ur private business

Blainz:


Simple sentence you can't make correctly and you have the gots to write this poo

...guts...

Truth be Told, Some Nigerian Graduates are embarrassment to degree not just in public universities, also private.
Because we all know all you need to be in a private University is money and money alone. While it's strictly reading to pass and memorizing to pour back for lecturers in public schools

One of my friends graduated with first class from Landmark University and you shake your head when he contributes to issues sometimes.

I hope that statement did not come from Atiku. Is this the person some people are promoting for Presidency? This is a very irresponsible statement from a public official regarding public education.

ColonelDrake:
I seem not to understand why people mistake eloquence for intelligence.

English is a second language in Nigeria. You can't pick ELOQUENCE, sorry FLUENCY... You can't pick up fluency on the streets unless you want to spend the rest of your life saying: "let me come and be going, if they like let them be staying here and be speaking grammar"

See what I mean?

In Nigeria's school curriculum English is a subject like any other. It has rules and nuances and if we don't apply ourselves to study, we will never learn these foundations and will therefore always lack in those areas. This same theory applies to other subjects.

Now it is true that one can't possibly be perfect in all subjects, however, one would expect that a subject that carries others on its back and which we spend at least 15 years of our formative years learning... one would expect that we have a decent degree of mastery over it.

The fact that 80% of us lack this mastery speaks ill of both our education sector and the education we have received.
This is a question of the effectiveness of the type of education we receive in this country. Not a question of intelligence. Not exactly.

ZUBY77:




No its not an insult
Most public university students are as dumb as the government that manages the schools.

Well said

This insult is too much. Ah University graduate to secondary school students. After they spoiled the whole system of education.

MrSly:


Sure physics and maths are technical and denote knowledge. However, a graduate who cannot express thoughts, ideas, etc with at least error free simple sentences is simply dull and not worthy of the name "varsity graduate"

You're wrong. As a graduate engineer, I've taught in school. English is just a language. Moreover, if you're brought up in a family with English as the speaking language, you'll be fluent in English just like being brought up with your native language. In addition, most parents send their lads to queens school that emphasizes more on English language but not good in technical subjects. Experience has shown me that using English as a yardstick for ones intelligent academically is navety. I've seen students that can't speak good English because of family background but are very good in Maths and Physics which are my yardstick of measuring how intelligent one is expecially in science related fields. Little wonder most schools give little emphasis on English as their selection criteria with respect to engineering and science courses. Futhermore in my field, I've seen some expertriate (Chinese) that cannot speak good English but they're technically and computationally sound! Finally what develops a country is how technically engaged they citizens are, not how fluent they speak a language like English.

elfmann:

...guts...

9jaBloke:
Chai UNIZIK

When Atiku visited their radio station and folks were 'repping' the school, I was just watching
Now the verdict is given

But Atiku rude sha!!

This is wrong and annoying, coming from one of our past leaders. As a One time leader, you are making mockery of the citizenry and forgot that 2019 is around the corner. Nigerians and your oppositions will put that in mind. God bless the federal republic of Nigeria.

If he thinks so let him sponsor an academic competition between private universities and public universities with his university as the host in various fields. This will help him to know whether his deduction is right or wrong.

sava2:
The igbos talk about their first cars. When yoruba
have been making cars from 1971

Proof.
Prof. Ayodele Awojobi's amphibious vehicle?

Well it got me thinking...
'American University of Nigeria..'??
i dont understand a thing..

Development or what?

sava2:
Wole Soyinka , Nobel price winner went to public school

Me, I get B. Sc. Atiku no get. Even the honorary degree is in ....THIEVERY... dem just no wan tell am.

TruthisGOD:
You're wrong. As a graduate engineer, I've taught in school. English is just a language. Moreover, if you're brought up in a family with English as the speaking language, you'll be fluent in English just like being brought up with your native language. In addition, most parents send their lads to queens school that emphasizes more on English language but not good in technical subjects. Experience has shown me that using English as a yardstick for ones intelligent academically is navety. I've seen students that can't speak good English because of family background but are very good in Maths and Physics which are my yardstick of measuring how intelligent one is expecially in science related fields. Little wonder most schools give little emphasis on English as their selection criteria with respect to engineering and science courses. Futhermore in my field, I've seen some expertriate (Chinese) that cannot speak good English but they're technically and computationally sound! Finally what develops a country is how technically engaged they citizens are, not how fluent they speak a language like English.

You are missing the point, bro.
This entire thread is a focus on education as a decaying system with English as a case study. Not a focus on IQ. But of course I understand how the issue ruffles your feathers.

Atiku's university (not secondary sch.) was not among the best listed. we heard of UI, OAU etc wat a shamefull talk from ex - VP.send him to Donald Trump 4 re education plz

[quote author=saintmark88 post=51160912]What an insult!!!!!!!!!!!? U see. He is correct. Wonder what a question mark is doing at the end of your statement.

sava2:
Nigerian are smart people, they tried to clone human.

They have bad government. Not that they are not smart.

What I believe is the way an individual take education. I Alway read every day. Because you get older and you start losing your momery. So I try to read all day. to gain back my momery of event, this why I am online.

I want to remember things.

I went to school under the military, I never had civillian government education. But it looks the civilian are doing bad.

See as you just totally murdered English language and yet you keep saying igbo cheat and yoruba is laid back, if this is truly how intelligent the yorubas are then they're finished, fortunately that's not the case

Bloody bigot looking for igbo vs yoruba fight but stinks of illiteracy from all angles. Poor sentence construction, poor thought out words and articulation, terrible spelling and punctuation, it's people like you that makes the likes of Atiku insult us, smh

Atikuuu "He pointed out that only quality education could bring about technology development in any country in the world, not oil, gold or other mineral resources". It is TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT sir!

Hmmm!

With the comments have been reading, Atiku just said the truth.

devvland:


You are missing the point, bro.
This entire thread is a focus on education as a decaying system with English as a case study. Not a focus on IQ. But of course I understand how the issue ruffles your feathers.

Read his statement well, especially the second paragraph. The undertone there is that a graduate who cannot speak good English is not intelligent, hence can't fit well in private industries. Logically from his speech, we can conclude that what prompted him to make that statement was because he heard both students from different schools addressed him in English language.