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Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by QueenSuccubus(f): 11:52am On Dec 03, 2016 |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by ScienceWatch: 11:53am On Dec 03, 2016 |
Atheists or people who are very strident about their atheism are heavily prone to mental illness: “There were 17,809 people in the study. It was a very large model as far as psychological experiments go.” This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient. “Overt atheism, in other words, atheism that is professed as a way of life by some individuals — a manifesto of sorts — was found to be a common component inherent to many people suffering from other forms of severe mental illness,” said Dr. Hans Zimmermann MD PhD “We started to notice that many of our experimental volunteers — those who were defiantly atheistic in their beliefs — were also suffering from various forms of dissociate disorders and social adaptation manias. This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient because for years we have been led to believe that religious zeal was often a patently obvious sign of mental illness, but in fact this is not the case. Quite the contrary. “The individuals we have studied, especially those under the age of forty who actively participate in open debate about their own avowed atheism, or people who are very strident about their atheism are heavily prone to mental illness — and most of the illnesses are quite severe. This was not a handful of subjects who were studied, mind you. There were 17,809 people in the study. It was a very large model as far as psychological experiments go.” View the full article here: http://thedamienzone.com/2012/08/17/atheism-as-a-mental-disorder-or-illness-new-studies-say-yes/ Haroun13: |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Haroun13(m): 11:56am On Dec 03, 2016 |
visita: I have performed some study, and reflected on them, and have to come to the conclusion that Islam has always and will always be the truth. I don't know if you believe in God or not, but your very existence is because there is a creator, Allah. If we go back, according to science, you'll agree with me that at a time, there was only a pair of humans. So, before them, what?? If we agree with the theory of evolution, for example, we will go back to the amoeba. Two questions: 1. Are you saying a group of amoeba, without brains came and thought for themselves, some decided to form a monkey, some lion, some fish, etc? 2. Assuming it is correct, we go back to a time there was nothing, no life. Life cannot exist from lifelessness without some intervention of some sort. Likewise, nothing can form out of nothingness, on it's own. This fact alone is enough proof that God exists, for those who say He doesn't. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by dalaman: 12:05pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Richirich713: But Jesus also advised hus deciplies to run away from persecution . He said they should run from one city to another when people persecute them. 2 Likes |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Haroun13(m): 12:06pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
benzics: Quite some astonishing claims you have here. From the Qur'an you say? Why don't you bring proof, concerning each of your points, and In Shaa Allah, I'll answer you to the best of my ability. Though, your diction says a lot about you you know. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by hopefulLandlord: 12:19pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
dalaman: he even lied that he would've come back before they stop running and many of those he's speaking with would still be alive when he comes! |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by AccidentalGenius: 12:21pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Haroun13:the only proof you need is to look at fruits of this belief system in syria, iraq, ISIS and the lashings your muslim brothers regularly upload on youtube. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by HardMirror(m): 12:24pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
benzics:Some members of my family know and they don't understand it. They insist I must have joined ogboni or some sort of cult 1 Like |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by benzics(m): 12:40pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Haroun13:claims? How old was aisha when Mohammed married and layed with her? Flat earth Qur'an 71:19: And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out), Beat a woman Surah An-Nisa [4:34] Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. That means women don't have a mind of their own but to just obey men Homos Quran (4:16) - "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone" Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)" Many more... 4 Likes |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by benzics(m): 12:41pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
HardMirror:lol.. Mine are all like, "the devil is using you" |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by AccidentalGenius: 12:53pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
benzics:my sister and uncles will say "wait for something bad to happen to you then yo u know you need yahweh" and i be like "why wish such evil upon me?" |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by benzics(m): 12:58pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
AccidentalGenius:Lol, exactly, mine were also like "if there is no God, where did you get the food you are eating from?".. Lol.. Na wa o 1 Like |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by AccidentalGenius: 1:00pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
benzics:abi. U got the food from the pot na lol |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Richirich713: 1:08pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
dalaman: Jesus never told them to lie in their parents faces then still go behind their backs trolling those who share their beliefs. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by visita: 3:14pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Normally I only observe people's arguments in this section, never for once have engaged anyone in a debate/argument. You see, I do not even know where to begin from. But i'll ask you some questions 1. Why do you think that the god that created the universe and all that is contained in it, must be the muslim God Allah? Answer this, then i'll ask another Haroun13: |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by AccidentalGenius: 3:39pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
dalaman:i wanted to respond to all that nonsense but nah. Emmanuel fucking tv? He wants me to watch that!! I'd rather watch porn all day 1 Like |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Haroun13(m): 4:04pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
visita: Alhamdulillah. You seem to misunderstand me. I believe Judaism, Christianity, Islam and all other religions which believe in the worship of a supreme being, all worship The creator of the universe, Allah. However, the mode of worship, and the way God Almighty is perceived in these religions is different. E.g, Christians believe that the God head is 3-in-1, whereas in Islam, we are made to understand that God Almighty is one alone, and does not share his divinity. We also believe association of partners with Allah is shirk (polytheism) and is the greatest sin. Also, some people say "Allah", like it means some form of Arabian god, NO. Allah in simple terms means "the one who deserves to, and should be worshipped". Concerning ur question, I believe Qur'an 112 will answer that. "Say: He Allah is one. Allah, the eternal refuge. He neither begets nor is born. Nor is there to Him any equivalent." (QUR'AN 112) Also, God Almighty has unique qualities, as we understand from the Qur'an. Hope I have answered you. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by EyeHateGod: 4:07pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Haroun13:At bolded is A lie please where did you get that from |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by visita: 4:22pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
Okay. Good Now, the Jews and Christians worship the creator of the universe, who introduced himself as Jehovah to them, do you believe this? Haroun13: |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Haroun13(m): 5:27pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
benzics:Why don't you tell me.
Wrong translation. Here's the correct one: SAHIH INTERNATIONAL "And Allah has made for you the earth an expanse" Qur'an 71:19. I guess that's self explanatory.
Self explanatory.
I wonder how you managed to interpret the above verse in this manner. Lemme explain better. First, Allah says men are in charge of women because of their responsibility, I.e, men are responsible for women, hope you get me. Second, women should be obedient to their husbands. Are you telling me obedience to your parents makes you a mindless robot? Third, speaking on arrogance, these are in steps. i. admonish her: is there anything wrong in having discussions and heart to hearts with your wife, in addressing issues? Also, if she is a good wife, she will reason with her husband, and they will resolve whatever issue they have. ii. if that doesn't work, abandon her to her bed. Any responsible woman, seeing her husband avoiding her in bed, will know something is wrong, and dialog with her husband. Is it too difficult? iii. If she still continues in her attitude, ignoring the first two, you beat. Note, some scholars say that the beating referred to here is symbolic(like using a toothpick to hit), just to let her know she has gone too far, not your regular definition of "beat". Also, even though it is symbolic, you don't beat on the face, and you don't beat to cause injury. But I don't even see any reason why a loving couple would get passed stage 1.
I don't see anything wrong in this verse Many more...Please, feel free. Salaam. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Haroun13(m): 5:40pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: Another astonishing claim. Lemme see what I can do for you. First, The Arabic word for god is ilah. It can be made plural ilahi (gods) or feminine ilaha (goddess). It can also be used with the creations, e.g, godmother, godfather, etc. The word "Allah" in Arabic is unique. It cannot be pluralized, feminized, or used with creation. It is unique. If you look at it, it is as though you are saying Al ilah, The God. In conclusion, Allah means the one who deserves to be worshipped, and that is non other than the Creator of the universe. Salaam |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Haroun13(m): 5:56pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
AccidentalGenius: I would not have answered, because your tone sounds like you are criticizing, not seeking truth. But for the benefit of others, I will. What ISIS, or whatever other radical groups are doing is not the basis of Islam. The basis of Islam is the Qur'an and Authentic Hadith. In every circle, or group, you most certainly have extremism. There will always be people who claim to be part of a system, yet, cherry pick and sugar coat the tenets of belief of that system, in order to suit their whims and desires, that doesn't mean they are doing the right thing. Open the Qur'an and read for yourself to know what it truly teaches. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Haroun13(m): 6:07pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
visita: Like I said before, I believe they also worship God Almighty, in their own way. But, when you say He introduced himself as Jehovah to them, I don't know. Why? 1st, I don't know the meaning of the word "Jehovah" 2nd, The Qur'an does not mention revealing to the followers of Moses (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh) that he is Jehovah. I think you again misunderstand me. I believe in the Qur'an, and they believe in their holy books. I don't believe in their books, they don't believe in mine. I follow the way it is laid down in the Qur'an to worship God Almighty, likewise, they follow the way it laid down in their scriptures to worship God Almighty. If God Almighty said He is Jehovah (note: I don't know the meaning), in their scriptures, it is for them. Such is not mentioned in the Qur'an, so I do not concur. NOTE: If Jehovah means something that can be attributed to God, according to the Qur'an, in another language, then, I have no problem with it. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Nobody: 6:09pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
ScienceWatch: The irony of your name being sciencewatch and saying all this nonsense, i watched emmanuel tv once..i laughed 2 Likes |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by ScienceWatch: 8:45pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
LightandDarkness:Your laughter can not be pleasant to the ear. People that trash good people that do a thousand times more good for humanity than themselves, have a dry, empty laughter. What does science say about people like you ? That is the irony ! |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by AccidentalGenius: 8:52pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
ScienceWatch:where is the irony? This is what emmanuel tv does! You begin to see things where they aren't. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by Nobody: 8:58pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
ScienceWatch: Anybody can be trashed, the "good" he has done for humanity involves exploiting the citizens of a poor country to amass a wealth of millions. Humanity does need help but your daddy in the Lord is not that help. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by ScienceWatch: 9:04pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
LightandDarkness:Your response show how short-sighted you are on this matter. You would like to see the day when the Holy Prophet TB Joshua leave Nigeria to live in the many countries that are offering him and his family permanent residence. When that happens, Nigeria will experience suffering on a scale your small mind cannot imagine. |
Re: Does Your Family Know That You Are An Atheist? What Are Their Thoughts On It? by ScienceWatch: 9:07pm On Dec 03, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Albert Einstein - did not believe in a personal God. A God that will heal and deliver. Although today he has been proven wrong by the overwhelming biblical and scientifically vrifiable evidence coming out of Scoan Church Nigeria. However, it is interesting how he arrived at that conclusion. While developing the theory of relativity, Einstein realized that his mathematical equations led to the conclusion that the universe had a beginning. But because he was atheist/deist/agnostic/humanist etc. Einstein didn't like the idea of a beginning of the universe , because he thought one would have to conclude that the universe was created by God. So, he cunningly added a cosmological constant to his mathematical equation to attempt to get rid of the evidence of a beginning of the universe. He said this was one of the worst mistakes of his life. So, although Einstein was not a Christian, he had great respect for Jesus, and recognized that He was an amazing figure in history. Personally having grown up as an atheist in a non-religious home, Einstein initially saw Jesus as a brilliant teacher when I read the gospels for the first time at age 32. If we wont worship the creator God,, we are atheists. Don’t be confused with the many fancy titles created, they all mean the same thing in the end. |
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