blueAgent:



www.bbc.com/future/story/20141219-will-religion-ever-disappear

How does this relate to my point that the most developed countries are secular with a huge number of atheists and a growing disbelief in religion?

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheists are bunch of liars . That's why I had to leave the thread . No one can tell lies and distort facts as the atheists do .

No, you left because you were confronted with facts. It's what u always do. When u have exhausted all the gymnastics to defend your religion- which BTW seems closer to deism than Christianity these days- u exit the thread quietly to save face. It's discreet actually. At least, u don't insist on spewing rubbish like some of your well known friends

randomperson:

No, you left because you were confronted with facts. It's what u always do. When u have exhausted all the gymnastics to defend your religion- which BTW seems closer to deism than Christianity these days- u exit the thread quietly to save face. It's discreet actually. At least, u don't insist on spewing rubbish like some of your well known friends

Hehehehehehehehe

randomperson:

No, you left because you were confronted with facts. It's what u always do. When u have exhausted all the gymnastics to defend your religion- which BTW seems closer to deism than Christianity these days- u exit the thread quietly to save face. It's discreet actually. At least, u don't insist on spewing rubbish like some of your well known friends

So you even know kingebukasblog's tactics? When the guy has been floored, he runs away!


I knew that as soon as I caught him lying about Jainists in Japan, he would run away!

JackBizzle:





So you even know kingebukasblog's tactics? When the guy has been floored, he runs away!


I knew that as soon as I caught him lying about Jainists in Japan, he would run away!

You are one funny guy . Japan is a deeply religious country . The Shinto followers who are 80 percent of the population don't identify as religious because there is no formal initiation into Shinto religion or cults and there are over 80,000 shrines and 85 000 Shinto priests .

I also posted a link giving you the myriads of gods the Japanese worship .

Then I said for the atheists in Japan , it is not the type of atheism you subscribe to that the Japanese do , they are atheists because they are adherents of Confucianism , Buddhism and Jainism that do not worship any deities .

Plus there are so many minor religious groups in Japan like Islam , Christianity , Judaism , Chinese folk religion , Sikhism and so many others .

How on earth is this abstruse - difficult to understand . You keep showing me how abysmal the way you reason is . Or is this just a blatant denial of facts ?

I can't deal with this honestly .

KingEbukasBlog:


You are one funny guy . Japan is a deeply religious country . The Shinto followers who are 80 percent of the population don't identify as religious because there is no formal initiation into Shinto religion or cults and here are over 80,000 shrines and 85 000 Shinto priests .

I also posted a link giving you the myriads of gods the Japanese worship .

Then I said for the atheists in Japan , it is not the type of atheism you subscribe to that the Japanese do , they are atheists because Confucianism , Buddhism and Jainism that do not worship any deities .

Plus there are so many minor religious groups in Japan like Islam , Christianity , Judaism , Chinese folk religion , Sikhism and so many others .

How on earth is this abstruse - difficult to understand . You keep showing me how abysmal the way you reason is . Or is this just a blatant denial of facts ?

I can't deal with this honestly .

Ina ahu ihe anumanu ahu neme na FP?

4everGod:


Ina ahu ihe anumanu ahu neme na FP?

I mana ha na-ewe iwe oku ebe Chineke no . Ishi ha akpakota ha onu . Ha kpuru isi and ha ga-adapu n'ime onunu ha ji aka ha me .

KingEbukasBlog:


I mana ha na-ewe iwe oku ebe Chineke no . Ishi ha akpakota ha onu . Ha kpuru isi and ha ga-adapu n'ime onunu ha ji aka ha me .

True. So true! We can only keep shining the light in their darkness.

blueAgent:




The Nobel Prize laureate in Literature Thomas Stearns Eliot in his 1948 book Notes Towards the Definition of Culture, credited the prominent Christian influence upon the European culture:[9] “ I am talking about the common tradition of Christianity which has made Europe what it is, and about the common cultural elements which this common Christianity has brought with it. If Asia were converted to Christianity tomorrow, it would not thereby become a part of Europe. It is in Christianity that our arts have developed; it is in Christianity that the laws of Europe have--until recently--been rooted. It is against a background of Christianity that all our thought has significance. An individual European may not believe that the Christian Faith is true, and yet what he says, and makes, and does, will all spring out of his heritage of Christian culture and depend upon that culture for its meaning. Only a Christian culture could have produced a Voltaire or a Nietzsche. I do not believe that the culture of Europe could survive the complete disappearance of the Christian Faith.[. . .] The Western World has its unity in this heritage, in Christianity and in the ancient civilisations of Greece, Rome, and Israel, from which, owing to two thousand years of Christianity, we trace our descent."

Are you the same person as Tellemall? You spew the same kind of rubbish.

KingEbukasBlog:


You are one funny guy . Japan is a deeply religious country . The Shinto followers who are 80 percent of the population don't identify as religious because there is no formal initiation into Shinto religion or cults and there are over 80,000 shrines and 85 000 Shinto priests .

I also posted a link giving you the myriads of gods the Japanese worship .

Then I said for the atheists in Japan , it is not the type of atheism you subscribe to that the Japanese do , they are atheists because they are adherents of Confucianism , Buddhism and Jainism that do not worship any deities .

Plus there are so many minor religious groups in Japan like Islam , Christianity , Judaism , Chinese folk religion , Sikhism and so many others .

How on earth is this abstruse - difficult to understand . You keep showing me how abysmal the way you reason is . Or is this just a blatant denial of facts ?

I can't deal with this honestly .

I am not denying anything. It is true that most Japanese are culturally shinto.


The inherent lies are.

1) 80% of Japanese believe in deities through shinto gods. The truth is that they don't take shinto seriously. They only do it culturally. They are atheist.

2) The atheists in Japan are jainists. Jainism is dead in Japan. Not up to 1%. Same with Confucianism.


Atheism is atheism. Japanese do not believe in a god.

4everGod:


Ina ahu ihe anumanu ahu neme na FP?

Speak English jo.....


This religion section no be nairaland.....na dollarland!

Seems like someone just does not want to believe Japan has large atheistic populations... Despite the links, the pictures, the quotes....


Perhaps he thinks if he hopes hard enough, it will come to pass

Wake up
;-X

Ranchhoddas:
Are you the same person as Tellemall? You spew the same kind of rubbish.

No. rubbish you cannot deal with.

JackBizzle:


How does this relate to my point that the most developed countries are secular with a huge number of atheists and a growing disbelief in religion?

Did you read the article? most people who claim Athiests run to churches for comfort or assistance during time of Crises

JackBizzle:



Greece and Rome were pagans/polytheists


But continue with your ignorance.

The lastime i checked paganism and polytheism were all classified as religeon.so Greece and Italy were not Apethiest and the flourished most when they adopted christainity,did you get that?
I guess you we all know who is the ingnorant one.

JackBizzle:



I dont even know where to start to breakdown your inferiority complex (for white Europeans) and ignorance


1) Every culture borrows from one another. European culture is a descendant of a mixture of Greek, Roman and Arabic cultures.

2) Following Number 1, a lot of scientific and mathematical concepts developed in Europe were based on the scientific discoveries from the Arab/Islamic golden age. Algebra, calculus etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age . You can progress from wikipedia to more reliable sources.

3) Following point number 1 again, the romans and greeks were mostly pagans, polytheists and deists. A lot of philosophy and military tactics that Europeans developed are from the Roman Empire and Greeks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire#Religion

4) The summary of point 1-3, is debunk your point that the Europeans were the ones spreading civilization (Because there were civilizations before them) and also, to show you that a lot of European culture was initially curated from Islamic and pagan origins.

5) Points 1-3 should also counter your claims of Europe developing Asia. Both continents took from each other. Do you know how many business management techniques come from Japan alone?

6) Furthermore, it is only a foolish slave that will claim that Europe spread development. No, just like the Roman empire, they sought to to rape, pillage and conquer for their motherland. How do you explain slavery, colonization and the forcing of culture on others? You keep talking about Europe spreading its empire and christianity, are you that silly to forget the atrocities, wars, genocide and slavery that came with it? The decimation of native indians? The brutal wars in south america? The transatlantic slavery?

7) Countering your point about Europe developing Asian education, I would like you to take a look at south korean and japanese educational systems and see how more technologically advanced they are compared to European countries and even the USA. The koreans and japanese did not need christianity for that and they rejected christianity from the Europeans (along with the Chinese). Something which we Africans should have done.

Europe was feudal itself when it was very much christian. It was not christianity that stopped feudalism after all, the bible is ridden with totalitarian kings and royal class who had much of the population serving them like peasants.

Feudalism was a combination of legal and military customs in medieval Europe that flourished between the 9th and 15th centuries. Broadly defined, it was a way of structuring society around relationships derived from the holding of land in exchange for service or labour.
Although derived from the Latin word feodum or feudum (fief),[1] then in use, the term feudalism and the system it describes were not conceived of as a formal political system by the people living in the Middle Ages. In its classic definition, by François-Louis Ganshof (1944),[2] feudalism describes a set of reciprocal legal and military obligations among the warrior nobility, revolving around the three key concepts of lords, vassals and fiefs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism


7) You went ahead to believe the white man's historic lie that Africans were foolish and naked before they came. Go and read about African Civilizations of the past- Kanem Borno empires. Maybe your tribe were naked in the past- mine were not. See your inferiority complex?


Many African tribes did not engage in slavery. Nomad tribes could not engage in slavery- the cost of transporting slaves were prohibitory. Also many tribes including mine, killed prisoners of war by beheading with cutlass. So, where did their slaves come from? Some tribes did but I bet they were few given that one needed monetary concept and chains to keep slaves, and also farming is not labour intensive in Africa given our fertility and culture of farming with family.


9) You complain about the caste system in India. What about the era of witch trials and burning in Europe? You talk as if Europeans do not have bad cultures of their own. Inferiority complex again.



Bow your head in shame. You are mentally enslaved to a foreign religion and culture.

Stop decieving yourself asians copied majority of their works from Europeans.

Go and google about Mesopotamia the cradle of civilization .genetic results shows that Europeans are from mesopotamia.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1244654/Study-finds-Britons-descended-farmers-left-Iraq-Syria-10-000-years-ago.html

You show poor knowledge of world history and politics.
Is a fact that Europeans spread civilzation to all parts of the world. all other civilization weather in asian or africa were inferior to European civilization.
You can google about Education in asian.
Go and read about Indo-aryan migration.
Cost of transporting ......slaves that is laughable for someone who claims to know history.
Roman empire was spread from Europe to asian .if they didnot have means of moving people and arms how did they sustain such large empire?
go and read about history of slavery in africa


show me one theory ,formular or law in science or social science established by an african or asians.

Africans are civilized i guess like this picture.

blueAgent:



Did you read the article? most people who claim Athiests run to churches for comfort or assistance during time of Crises

That is a lie. A very big and shameful lie. Clearly you don't know what atheism is and you hardly know or have atheists as friends.


You have decimated all credibility with your comment. Disappointing.

blueAgent:

The lastime i checked paganism and polytheism were all classified as religeon.so Greece and Italy were not Apethiest and the flourished most when they adopted christainity,did you get that?
I guess you we all know who is the ingnorant one.

What is this one saying? Why are you shifting the goal posts? Wasn't your initial argument that Europe developed as a result of its christian heritage from Isreal, Greece and Rome (When the actual fact is that Greece and Rome were mostly pagan)?.


Kindly revisit the original lie in your comment below;

blueAgent:




The Western World has
its unity in this heritage, in Christianity and
in the ancient civilisations of Greece, Rome,
and Israel, from which, owing to two
thousand years of Christianity, we trace our
descent."

blueAgent:



Stop decieving yourself asians copied majority of their works from Europeans.

Go and google about Mesopotamia the cradle of civilization .genetic results shows that Europeans are from mesopotamia.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1244654/Study-finds-Britons-descended-farmers-left-Iraq-Syria-10-000-years-ago.html

You show poor knowledge of world history and politics.
Is a fact that Europeans spread civilzation to all parts of the world. all other civilization weather in asian or africa were inferior to European civilization.
You can google about Education in asian.
Go and read about Indo-aryan migration.
Cost of transporting ......slaves that is laughable for someone who claims to know history.
Roman empire was spread from Europe to asian .if they didnot have means of moving people and arms how did they sustain such large empire?
go and read about history of slavery in africa


show me one theory ,formular or law in science or social science established by an african or asians.

Africans are civilized i guess like this picture.

I have already decimated your points in my previous comment.

There is nothing left for me to say.....just to laugh at your inferiority complex. Slave to the white Europeans.

Ranchhoddas:
Are you the same person as Tellemall? You spew the same kind of rubbish.

You sound like SmellingAnus, did you know that?

KingEbukasBlog:


You are one funny guy . Japan is a deeply religious country . The Shinto followers who are 80 percent of the population don't identify as religious because there is no formal initiation into Shinto religion or cults and there are over 80,000 shrines and 85 000 Shinto priests .

I also posted a link giving you the myriads of gods the Japanese worship .

Then I said for the atheists in Japan , it is not the type of atheism you subscribe to that the Japanese do , they are atheists because they are adherents of Confucianism , Buddhism and Jainism that do not worship any deities .

Plus there are so many minor religious groups in Japan like Islam , Christianity , Judaism , Chinese folk religion , Sikhism and so many others .

How on earth is this abstruse - difficult to understand . You keep showing me how abysmal the way you reason is . Or is this just a blatant denial of facts ?

I can't deal with this honestly .

Hi.

Tellemall:


You sound like SmellingAnus, did you know that?(no offense to you, SA. I can see you)

I am not, and I am horrified that I am associated with such a moniker.

Tellemall:


You sound like SmellingAnus, did you know that?(no offense to you, SA. I can see you)

Ranchhoddas:
I am not, and I am horrified that I am associated with such a moniker.

So who are you to go about calling the moniker Tellemall and accusing BlueAgent of being Tellemall?

It's not good to make specious accusations. Be sure first.

PS: we are right. Don't call contrary opinions rubbish.

I did not make an accusation, I only asked a question. And you are not right.

Tellemall:


So who are you to go about calling the moniker Tellemall and accusing BlueAgent of being Tellemall?

It's not good to make specious accusations. Be sure first.

PS: we are right. Don't call contrary opinions rubbish.

Ranchhoddas:
I am not, and I am horrified that I am associated with such a moniker.

why should you be horrified for being associated with that moniker.... Are you better than the person that owns the moniker? The guy has contributed more to nairaland than you... You joined since 2014 and you havent created any topic not to talk of topic that will impact postively in the lives of people but the moniker you are horrified about has created very educating topics... Learn to do your research properly before get into faulty conclusions...

Tellemall:


You sound like SmellingAnus, did you know that?

have our paths ever crossed on nairaland that you have to mention my moniker? It's obvious this is an alternate moniker because I know I have never had any encounter with this your moniker

It's not like I owe you any explanation but if you were as educated as claimed, you'd have realized that I meant the moniker itself and not necessarily the person behind it.

SmellingAnus:
why should you be horrified for being associated with that moniker.... Are you better than the person that owns the moniker? The guy has contributed more to nairaland than you... You joined since 2014 and you havent created any topic not to talk of topic that will impact postively in the lives of people but the moniker you are horrified about has created very educating topics Learn to do your research properly before get into faulty conclusions...

As regards the highlighted; use am go collect money for bank.

Ranchhoddas:
It's not like I owe you any explanation but if you were as educated as claimed, you'd have realized that I meant the moniker itself and not necessarily the person behind it.As regards the highlighted; use am go collect money for bank.

hahahah no problem... Na MMM I go collect am from by January or February

SmellingAnus:
hahahah no problem... Na MMM I go collecting am from by January or February

SmellingAnus? How far?

JackBizzle:



SmellingAnus? How far?

my brother I dey o... I never meet you for NL before o how you take know my moniker

SmellingAnus:
my brother I dey o... I never meet you for NL before o how you take know my moniker

I am a long time admirer of your moniker.

Yeye dey smell
Anus dey smell