MrMontella:

must you always have to lie?
Please show me when/where the catholic church excommunicated him...

They are calling for his excommunication . That's why I said the Catholic Church is against him

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/news-31546-Cleric+Mugabe+shames+Catholic+church/news.aspx

https://cathnews.co.nz/2016/10/07/president-mugabe-abuses-excommunication/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmY5CDflDiI


Why are you a liar

MrMontella:


Marxism and communism was founded because of capitalism

Friedrich engels was very tolerant to religion

Both of the hated religion but Karl Marx hated religion more

https://www.ukessays.com/essays/sociology/karl-marx-and-friedrich-engels-on-religion-sociology-essay.php

Here is Marxism's take on religion .

Stop mentioning me with extremely stupid rebuttals .

KingEbukasBlog:


They are calling for his excommunication . That's why I said the Catholic Church is against him

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/news-31546-Cleric+Mugabe+shames+Catholic+church/news.aspx

https://cathnews.co.nz/2016/10/07/president-mugabe-abuses-excommunication/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmY5CDflDiI


Why are you a liar

you are a funny human being...
Giving me the ''same'' article twice?

So the opinion of a pastor or a catholic publisher translates to the position of the catholic church?

You really need some schooling on catholicism!

Mtsheew!

Mention me when you have proof

@MrMontella

KingEbukasBlog:


Both of the hated religion but Karl Marx hated religion more

https://www.ukessays.com/essays/sociology/karl-marx-and-friedrich-engels-on-religion-sociology-essay.php

Here is Marxism's take on religion .

Stop mentioning me with extremely stupid rebuttals .

what nonsense?


You can cut out my comments as you like!

Go and learn marxism..it sees religion as a response to woes of capitalism!

Even in the face of evidence from Friedrich engels himself...you're still talking bull..

MrMontella:

what nonsense?


You can cut out my comments as you like!

Go and learn marxism..it sees religion as a response to woes of capitalism!

Even in the face of evidence from Friedrich engels himself...you're still talking bull..

Neo-Marxism is the variant of Marxism that is tolerant of religion ... not Marxism itself

Go and learn about political theories and stop making a fool of yourself

Just imagine this fellow

KingEbukasBlog:
@MrMontella

im yet to see lenin/engels advocating that religion should be stamped out with force or that religious adherrents should be persecuted....

Until you can do that...we are done

the evidence i have blasted you with should really knock you off

MrMontella:

im yet to see lenin/engels advocating that religion should be stamped out with force or that religious adherrents should be persecuted....

Until you can do that...we are done

the evidence i have blasted you with should really knock you off

Lmaooo !!! You must be a learner

Geezz ...such ignorance

KingEbukasBlog:


Neo-Marxism is the variant of Marxism that is tolerant of religion ... not Marxism itself

Go and learn about political theories and stop making a fool of yourself

Just imagine this fellow

so lenin was a neo-marxist or engels was a neo-marxist?

Guy..stop acting ''drunk''..please


your statement sef is even giving credence to christian communism...

For such variants to exist..than it is not an atheistic ideology..but rather a political ideology with tenets of materialism or thereabouts!



do you need more religious marxists and communists

KingEbukasBlog:

Lmaooo !!! You must be a learner
Geezz ...such ignorance

maybe understanding simple comments is hard for you..

MrMontella:

maybe understanding simple comments is hard for you..

Here are hundreds of Lenin's comments against religion

https://philosophersforchange.org/2014/01/21/lenin-and-religion/

MrMontella:

maybe understanding simple comments is hard for you..

Do you want more ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Here are hundreds of Lenin's comments against religion

https://philosophersforchange.org/2014/01/21/lenin-and-religion/

please someone should explain this simple comment for this guy

MrMontella:

im yet to see lenin/engels advocating that religion should be stamped out with force or that religious adherrents should be persecuted....

Until you can do that...we are done

the evidence i have blasted you with should really knock you off

maybe you do not know you are adding credence to my statement on religion being a response to the woes of capitalism...

MrMontella:

maybe understanding simple comments is hard for you..

I can give you more

MrMontella:

please someone should explain this simple comment for this guy

maybe you do not know you are adding credence to my statement on religion being a response to the woes of capitalism...

Chai, KingEbukasBlog I dey wait for you to address this.

End of Argument @ MrMontella

LENIN ON RELIGION :

Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism



How can someone oppose the founders of something

Na wa oo

See this one disturbing with nothing worthy

"Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1922–1991), Soviet authorities suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on the particular era. Soviet Marxist-Leninism policy consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religious beliefs, and actively encouraged atheism during its implementation in the Soviet Union.[1]

The state was committed to the destruction of religion,[2][3] and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic teachings, and generally promoted atheism as the truth that society should accept.[4][5] The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies has been estimated to range between 12-20 million."

Read more of the horrors of people persecuted in the name of atheism:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

4kings:

Chai, KingEbukasBlog I dey wait for you to address this.

Does that make any sense to you

After I posted all these snippets , he still went on to make such embarrassing comment

These guys hated religion like shiiit .

4kings:
Chai, KingEbukasBlog I dey wait for you to address this.

i wont reply him...until he takes his time and assimilate that statement!
He's joking with me..

Richirich713:
"Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1922–1991), Soviet authorities suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on the particular era. Soviet Marxist-Leninism policy consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religious beliefs, and actively encouraged atheism during its implementation in the Soviet Union.[1]

The state was committed to the destruction of religion,[2][3] and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic teachings, and generally promoted atheism as the truth that society should accept.[4][5] The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies has been estimated to range between 12-20 million."

Read more of the horrors of people persecuted in the name of atheism:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

Don't mind MrMontella

Lmaoo !

That guy is something else

The actions are right there indited in history books and articles and we provided quotes from the founders yet he remains obdurate he is right ?

That is delusion

KingEbukasBlog:
End of Argument @ MrMontella

LENIN ON RELIGION :

Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism

you can snub where i concretely showed you that lenin said..christians and believers in God can join the socialist party and there will be no contradiction...

I dont know what makes you think this statement disproves that..

Even in his book
socialism and religion
lenin defended a priest who was a socialist...

Please go and learn...your hate is blinding you!

How can someone oppose the founders of something

Na wa oo

See this one disturbing with nothing worthy

nothing worthy----the exact words of the founders and the books they published...

Please go and sit down...


I dont see how this image translates to
:persecute religious adherrents,,,,
religion must be stamped out with force,,,
or christians cant be socialists....


Its this stupid reasoning that makes ''you'' think anyone who opposes religion is an atheist...or that any irreligious atheist is a millitant atheist...


Take a bottle of cold water...
Read my comment and grasp reality...

This is final...
I don try for your nonsense

MrMontella:

Its this stupid reasoning that makes ''you'' think anyone who opposes religion is an atheist...or that any irreligious atheist is a millitant atheist...

You liar !!!!

KingEbukasBlog:

Deism and Religious Skepticism
Deism came into prominence in Europe during the Age of Enlightenment . Intellectuals challenged the rich powerful Catholic Church who secretly circulated pamphlets that undercut traditional dogma. The established Church was discredited, leading priests and bishops were forced into exile or executed, its churches and seminaries closed, its beliefs and rituals held up to ridicule. The French Revolution inspired skeptics across Europe to put the irreligious ideas of the Enlightenment into practice .

------------

So dear believers in God , not everyone who attacks your religious beliefs is an atheist .

https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion

MrMontella:

I dont see how this image translates to
:persecute religious adherrents,,,,
religion must be stamped out with force,,,
or christians cant be socialists....

This is just like Christian atheism . Christian atheists reject the core belief of Christianity which is that Christ is God but accept his moral teachings . That is Christian atheism is a variant of Christianity . This does not mean Christianity is not a belief in God religion .

In the same vein , the core principle of Marxism , Leninism , Communism etc which is the intolerance of the belief in God and practice of religion can be rejected while the economic principles are embraced or accepted . That is where religious people can now replace this core principle which is intolerance of the belief in God and practice of religion with their religious doctrine .

It does not mean that these ideologies are not atheistic . Because they originally are .


Learn they won't learn

Richirich713:
"Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1922–1991), Soviet authorities suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on the particular era. Soviet Marxist-Leninism policy consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religious beliefs, and actively encouraged atheism during its implementation in the Soviet Union.[1]

thats what the soviet union did...not what marxism nor marxist-lennism advocates..
I dont know if stalinism is the right word for the soviet union actions
marxist-lennism is actually against such soviet union actions
www.nairaland.com/3543595/did-god-command-genocide-bible/33#52547755


lenin was actually against stalin's rule and wanted him removed as the head of the communist party
source:Louis Fischer,1964, The Life Of Lenin:London:wiedenfeld and nicolson,,Page 647
many other sources confirm this

The state was committed to the destruction of religion,[2][3] and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with atheistic teachings, and generally promoted atheism as the truth that society should accept.[4][5]

www.nairaland.com/3543595/did-god-command-genocide-bible/33#52549505
this was against the founder's tenets...

The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies has been estimated to range between 12-20 million."

Read more of the horrors of people persecuted in the name of atheism:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

it goes both ways...
Religious have persecuted the irreligious and other religions too.

KingEbukasBlog:


This is just like Christian atheism . Christian atheists reject the core belief of Christianity which is that Christ is God but accept his moral teachings . That is Christian atheism is a variant of Christianity . This does not mean Christianity is not a belief in God religion .

In the same vein , the core principle of Marxism , Leninism , Communism etc which is the intolerance of the belief in God and practice of religion can be rejected while the economic principles are embraced or accepted . That is where religious people can now replace this core principle which is intolerance of the belief in God and practice of religion with their religious doctrine .

It does not mean that these ideologies are not atheistic . Because they originally are .


Learn they won't learn

oboi shut up

read the works of lenin and co you wont read...

Their ideology is that religion should be kept a private affair...totally private
Total separation from church and state...thats their ideology of religion..

MrMontella:

thats what the soviet union did...not what marxism nor marxist-lennism advocates..

This guy sef

Its states it right there

I told you have little or no knowledge of what you always argue against .

KingEbukasBlog:

You liar !!!!

https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion

you have called me an atheist...
You have also called jonbellion an atheist...
No be today!
Its until recently you started this bull under the guise of knowledge

MrMontella:

read the works of lenin and co you wont read...

This is according to Lenin

When will you stop embarrassing yourself

This is so shameful

Why are you doing this to yourself

This is from Lenin himself

You can read more here : https://philosophersforchange.org/2014/01/21/lenin-and-religion/

KingEbukasBlog:


This guy sef

Its states it right there

I told you have little or no knowledge of what you always argue against .

i'm actually laughing because you're stating what you are...

He was talking about persecution...destruction..etc
park well o

read bro read!

Its idea of ''abolition'' of religion is to let it die...i'e that the economic benefits of socialism when installed would alleviate the masses and they will drop religion as they saw religion as a response to capitalism etc

MrMontella:

i'm actually laughing because you're stating what you are...

He was talking about persecution...destruction..etc
park well o

And how do you think the abolition of religion will work , is it not the use of brutal force to implement the law


You are a big joker , a complete waste of time educating you

I'm out of here

You can wallow in your delusion

KingEbukasBlog:



And how do you think the abolition of religion will work , is it not the use of brutal force to implement the law


You are a big joker , a complete waste of time educating you

I'm out of here

You can wallow in your delusion

i jus dey laff you..

Keep on spreading your own opinion as their opinion...


Their books are there...
Educate yourself...
It is not a crime

Theese atheists remain the most wicked , heartless morally decadent humans that ever lived . Very wicked , heartless and dangerous people