This response from Pazienza to Ikwerres in denial deserves its own thread


"They were busy adding "R" to their towns to make it less Igbo, when the most logical thing to do was to hire Bini language lecturers and teachers to teach them their long lost Bini language that they dumped for the current Igbo one they speak, and rename everything in Bini Language.

They tell you they speak Igbo because Igbo colonized them, you ask them when did Igbo colonize them, they tell you in the Eastern region.
You remind them that they were already speaking Igbo before the colonials came to Nigeria. They get angry with you and start cursing you.
Then you ask them, why didn't the smaller groups like Ogbia, Ogoni, Andoni, Eleme, etc in the East lose their language to Igbo language in the Eastern region.
They tell you that it's because Ikwerres intermarried and traded with Ndiigbo, you remind them that Ndiigbo also intermarried and traded with all ethnic groups in the defunct Eastern region.

They get furious and start calling you land grabber, oil thieves, etc. And you wonder the link between your question and their replies.

But you forge ahead and ask them, why can't they drop Igbo names and language they currently speak and use and replace it with the old Bini one, they claimed their Bini ancestors spoke.
They get livid, and curse you, and when the cursing subsides, they tell you that their language is not Igbo, that it's Ikwerre, that it's similar to Igbo, but that it's not Igbo. They also tell you that Portuguese, Spanish and Italian languages are related, but that they are not the same, and that the people don't claim each other.

Then you remind them that Portuguese, Spanish and Italian languages are products of Roman colonialization of those places, they all originated from Latin, the language of the Roman conquerors. And you remind them that Igbos were never empire builders and never imposed lgbo language on non Igbo speaking groups in the past.

They get mad and curse you more. They remind you that their lands produce oil, and yours doesn't. They tell you how Igbos tried to take PH and Ikwerreland away from them.
You start wondering the link between their reply and your questions.

But you still want to probe them more.
So, you ask them, that if Ikwerre people migrated from Bini, and were not colonized by Igbos as had been established in previous argument, how then can Ikwerres claim that the current language they speak, is not Igbo language, when we know that Bini people don't speak Igbo language, and no iota of Bini words exists in the current Igbo language dialect Ikwerre speaks.
They get apoplectic, and promise to rain fire and brimstone on Biafra, and tell you that Igbos are wicked land grabbers, hell bent on re writing Ikwerre history.

In the end, you realize that you can never have a logical and rational discussion with an Ikwerre man suffering from identity crisis, and that any time spent arguing with him, is a time wasted"- Pazienza

We are all adults alright. I respect the fact i once ate banga soup and starch with you, I don't want to be rude, but I'am grown up now and i know now that eguisi soup is best for me. I just want you to respect me that way. Don't force banga soup on me again.

OP wan kill me with laugh. I think the writer is indirectly referring to Afonjas who claim to be from SS...most of the Ikwerre responses he gave mirrored those that Afonjas use routinely on Nairaland. Lol

Afriifa:
We are all adults alright. I respect the fact i once ate banga soup and starch with you, I don't want to be rude, but I'am grown up now and i know now that eguisi soup is best for me. I just want you to respect me that way. Don't force banga soup on me again.

Igbos are fine with Ikwerre people establishing their own identity and charting their own destiny separate from Igbos. That is absolutely fine.


The PROBLEM comes when they actively start distorting history and making up their own facts such as Phantom colonialism from a non-existent Igbo empire and Bini origin etc.

They didn't have to start making up lies. They could have just move on.

Fremancipation:


Igbos are fine with Ikwerre people establishing their own identity and charting their own destiny separate from Igbos. That is absolutely fine.


The PROBLEM comes when they actively start distorting history and making up their own facts such as Phantom colonialism from a non-existent Igbo empire and Bini origin etc.

They didn't have to start making up lies. They could have just move on.

I don't wana argue with you on your history stuff, i know nothing about Ikwere, all i know is that Ikwereans aren't IBO alone. So if you wana claim ownership over something, make sure it's entirely urs to avoid problems

That reply is so on point.

Afriifa:
I don't wana argue with you on your history stuff, i know nothing about Ikwere, all i know is that Ikwereans aren't IBO alone. So if you wana claim ownership over something, make sure it's entirely urs to avoid problems

You are now officially a troll. Mind your business. Let ndi ikwerre speak for themselves. Who made you their spokesman?

Afriifa:
I don't wana argue with you on your history stuff, i know nothing about Ikwere, all i know is that Ikwereans aren't IBO alone. So if you wana claim ownership over something, make sure it's entirely urs to avoid problems

On what premise do you draw conclusion that the Ikwerre are infact non-Igbo?

iSlayer2:


On what premise do you draw conclusion that the Ikwerre are infact non-Igbo?

just read my previous quote, i don't think you understand that.

Fremancipation:


You are now officially a troll. Mind your business. Let ndi ikwerre speak for themselves. Who made you their spokesman?

lol. Why are you mad! Come on chill, i got no issue with whatever you are tryna prove. I just contributed the fair share of what i know. Relax bro.

Afriifa:
lol. Why are you mad! Come on chill, i got no issue with whatever you are tryna prove. I just contributed the fair share of what i know. Relax bro.

I am not mad. Not even close. You made a bold statement that ikwerre people are not Igbo but at the same time say that you don't know much about Ikwerre. Isn't that contradictory?

Fremancipation:


I am not mad. Not even close. You made a bold statement that ikwerre people are not Igbo but at the same time say that you don't know much about Ikwerre. Isn't that contradictory?

its just figurative. Just try to picture my point. I am not contradicting anything.

Afriifa:
I don't wana argue with you on your history stuff, i know nothing about Ikwere, all i know is that Ikwereans aren't IBO alone. So if you wana claim ownership over something, make sure it's entirely urs to avoid problems

You surely fit into pazienza's description.

All these trash u guys go around the internet fermenting is not necessary.

ikennaf1:

You surely fit into pazienza's description.

lol. I work there now.

Afriifa:
just read my previous quote, i don't think you understand that.

Alright. I'll rephrase. On what premise did you conclude that the Ikwerre are not "IBO alone"? How did you come about this conclusion if you confessed of your own volition that you infact know nothing about Ikwerre?

iSlayer2:


Alright. I'll rephrase. On what premise did you conclude that the Ikwerre are not "IBO alone"? How did you come about this conclusion if you confessed of your own volition that you infact know nothing about Ikwerre?

what i am trying to say is that, i know a lot about the Ikweareans. Perhaps from reading history books, but i don't wana talk about it, especially with u.

Afriifa:
what i am trying to say is that, i know a lot about the Ikweareans. Perhaps from reading history books, but i don't wana talk about it, especially with u.

Pazienza must have had u in mind like sb said here,wen he made dat post!

Should Biafra or Niger delta republic materialize, ikwerre should better join their igbo brothers. I prefer to share Biafra with all igbo speaking group Dan share Niger delta republic with ikwerre ppl. Ikwerre stop running away from ur brothers igbo. U can't b answering emeka and ur saying it not igbo

Afriifa:
I don't wana argue with you on your history stuff, i know nothing about Ikwere, all i know is that Ikwereans aren't IBO alone. So if you wana claim ownership over something, make sure it's entirely urs to avoid problems

You know nothing about Ikwere but you kno dat Ikwere is not Igbo alone..

How confused can one be

Afriifa:
what i am trying to say is that, i know a lot about the Ikweareans. Perhaps from reading history books, but i don't wana talk about it, especially with u.

.

Afriifa:
I don't wana argue with you on your history stuff, i know nothing about Ikwere, all i know is that Ikwereans aren't IBO alone. So if you wana claim ownership over something, make sure it's entirely urs to avoid problems

Typical afonja. Neither here nor there

Fremancipation:
This response from Pazienza to Ikwerres in denial deserves its own thread


"They were busy adding "R" to their towns to make it less Igbo, when the most logical thing to do was to hire Bini language lecturers and teachers to teach them their long lost Bini language that they dumped for the current Igbo one they speak, and rename everything in Bini Language.

They tell you they speak Igbo because Igbo colonized them, you ask them when did Igbo colonize them, they tell you in the Eastern region.
You remind them that they were already speaking Igbo before the colonials came to Nigeria. They get angry with you and start cursing you.
Then you ask them, why didn't the smaller groups like Ogbia, Ogoni, Andoni, Eleme, etc in the East lose their language to Igbo language in the Eastern region.
They tell you that it's because Ikwerres intermarried and traded with Ndiigbo, you remind them that Ndiigbo also intermarried and traded with all ethnic groups in the defunct Eastern region.

They get furious and start calling you land grabber, oil thieves, etc. And you wonder the link between your question and their replies.

But you forge ahead and ask them, why can't they drop Igbo names and language they currently speak and use and replace it with the old Bini one, they claimed their Bini ancestors spoke.
They get livid, and curse you, and when the cursing subsides, they tell you that their language is not Igbo, that it's Ikwerre, that it's similar to Igbo, but that it's not Igbo. They also tell you that Portuguese, Spanish and Italian languages are related, but that they are not the same, and that the people don't claim each other.

Then you remind them that Portuguese, Spanish and Italian languages are products of Roman colonialization of those places, they all originated from Latin, the language of the Roman conquerors. And you remind them that Igbos were never empire builders and never imposed lgbo language on non Igbo speaking groups in the past.

They get mad and curse you more. They remind you that their lands produce oil, and yours doesn't. They tell you how Igbos tried to take PH and Ikwerreland away from them.
You start wondering the link between their reply and your questions.

But you still want to probe them more.
So, you ask them, that if Ikwerre people migrated from Bini, and were not colonized by Igbos as had been established in previous argument, how then can Ikwerres claim that the current language they speak, is not Igbo language, when we know that Bini people don't speak Igbo language, and no iota of Bini words exists in the current Igbo language dialect Ikwerre speaks.
They get apoplectic, and promise to rain fire and brimstone on Biafra, and tell you that Igbos are wicked land grabbers, hell bent on re writing Ikwerre history.

In the end, you realize that you can never have a logical and rational discussion with an Ikwerre man suffering from identity crisis, and that any time spent arguing with him, is a time wasted"- Pazienza

The funny thing is, when you tell an Ogba or Ikwerre man to relocate to Bini or to start speaking Bini, they become irritated, annoyed, frustrated and finally ashamed to look at your face.

Afriifa:
I don't wana argue with you on your history stuff, i know nothing about Ikwere, all i know is that Ikwereans aren't IBO alone. So if you wana claim ownership over something, make sure it's entirely urs to avoid problems

Afonja, tell them to speak Bini and not Igbo

adonis89:
Should Biafra or Niger delta republic materialize, ikwerre should better join their igbo brothers. I prefer to share Biafra with all igbo speaking group Dan share Niger delta republic with ikwerre ppl. Ikwerre stop running away from ur brothers igbo. U can't b answering emeka and ur saying it not igbo

They say they are Binis. Tell them to start speaking Bini

Afriifa:
what i am trying to say is that, i know a lot about the Ikweareans. Perhaps from reading history books, but i don't wana talk about it, especially with u.

*Smh* You're pitiable.

They have started again. If it's not land grabbing, it's Ikwerre. All these Ibo people we have here why can't you guys allow this forum to rest without a day of your tribal thread on nairaland?
You can't force someone to be what he's not.

Ekinematics:
They have started again. If it's not land grabbing, it's Ikwerre. All these Ibo people we have here why can't you guys allow this forum to rest without a day of your tribal thread on nairaland?
You can't force someone to be what he's not.

lol...So this the best sensationalist comment you can come up with after reading through everyone's comment... You have already failed in your agenda and willful ignorance.

Someone is answering Peter UCHENNA Philips(ma coursemate) and is from Ikwerre....

Pls does that sound like Bini name...

the guy will boldly say he is igbo when asked.....



The other ethnic group wont let them be...especially the Yorubas




But wen it comes to crime case e.g smuggling drugs ; As far as there is an igbo name or word in the person's names, they wont care about the person's state of origin...

they will be shouting

Igbos, ibos , Igbos etc



Dont worry continue...
Theris God o







Can u c me

Are you guys not tired of Ikwerre this or Ukwuani that.....leave everyone to his opinion!!!!...too much talk sef!!

iSlayer2:

*Smh* You're pitiable.

ur understanding though. Now u can pitch ur tent elswhere

ScotsReferendum:


Afonja, tell them to speak Bini and not Igbo

is that all?

Chiefobdk1:
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Typical afonja. Neither here nor there

is that all?