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Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by uncleade(m): 10:24am On Jan 16, 2017
OKEMKPI:
Joblessness can manifest in many forms,ur write up is just an example
The same joblessness that pushed you into the den of MMM.
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by Omolope4real(m): 10:24am On Jan 16, 2017
As in eh, am in one of the mmm group chats and a member sent the page of a guider whose GH was above 300m. Pls, how can the system survive on this, it is pure MADNESS. After I saw it, I have lost hope in the scheme cos it will never survive. The guiders are reaping mad benefits from this scheme, no wonder they are the ones pushing for the scheme to continue. Rubbish
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by uncleade(m): 10:51am On Jan 16, 2017
free2blast:
Thank God you know.
Y
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by mrkels(m): 10:55am On Jan 16, 2017
rosalieene:

funny! see what joblessness has done to you. Just pity yourself, get a life and mind your fvckinq business

I can actually employ you o .
For real .

So if you searching , just pm me .
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by mrkels(m): 10:56am On Jan 16, 2017
Jolaoshot:
Get a f*****g life dude!

I actually do .

Its just my humble opinion. Nothing more .

If folks on nairaland were mature they won't be ranting .

They would either take it or leave it .

That's what civilised people do .
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by mrkels(m): 10:58am On Jan 16, 2017
abfan:


The time and effort you just wasted writing this, if you put into your life you won't be were you are today.

Thank you .

I wonder if your life is any better .
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by mrkels(m): 10:59am On Jan 16, 2017
ideology:
SAVE A SOUL (SOS)

MMM is SCAM

THAT IS THE FACT

Always have.

Always would be a scam bro .
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by uncleade(m): 11:04am On Jan 16, 2017
mrkels:
Its your spare money - I know .

I have to mind my business - I know .

Its not my money - I know .

My opinion wont bring down the price of dollar in the market - I know .

I am Anti - MMM - I know .

I dont want you all to progress - I know .

Together you can change the world - I know



But my good people of God . I also know that if you walk into any bank to pay money into any1's account tomorrow monday morning , that money would never come back to you . this i promise you .


The only way MMM can come back to life is if The number 1 guilder Ugorji starts PH-ing his own personal money .

One guilder told me GH sometimes gets to 600M or more .

Imagine who would bring money to fill that bucket ? Me ? You ? Ugorji

Even if you place a gun in my head i would not put any money in the system .

Count your losses and move on .

Nigerians do it a lot , its just sad now that we are doing it to ourselves now .

You have made, you are making, and you will continue making a lot of enemies because of this post. just like you, i always thought Nigerians, especially the Nairalanders are a group of intelligent people that can't be easily fooled or duped. but I'm totally proved wrong. because i can see that 90% of Nairalanders are MMMers.
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by mrkels(m): 11:06am On Jan 16, 2017
ashala:



Come, Guy ,guy ,guy are you writing this with the intention of being famous or what?. Haba, Nigerians sef. Please face your life and leave People that invested in MMM. I don see you,Mr CBN. undecided

Lols. My brother . am just trying to save people from a future mayhem .

I know the people insulting me in this thread are the ones whose monies are trapped inside the ponzi scheme , they are waiting and hoping that unsuspecting Nigerians would pay them when they are matched .

But let us be honest , right now , all they care about is getting their money back so if they are asked to pay in . they won't .

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Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by mrkels(m): 11:08am On Jan 16, 2017
uncleade:

You have made, you are making, and you will continue making a lot of enemies because of this post. just like you, i always thought Nigerians, especially the Nairalanders are a group of intelligent people that can't be easily fooled or duped. but I'm totally proved wrong. because i can see that 90% of Nairalanders are MMMers.

My brother .
I don't care about the enemies I make .

I just want other innocent Nigerians to be saved from the clear and present danger mmm proposes to our great nation .
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by bush4ker(m): 11:17am On Jan 16, 2017
OP u no get job o.why not join the community
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by abiambo(m): 11:23am On Jan 16, 2017
oladipo322:
am still waiting to be match oooooo
ive been matched and paid
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by lakesider(m): 11:27am On Jan 16, 2017
if nairaland has been feeding Nigerians with the truth Nigeria and Nigerians will not be in this position today.
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by osazsky(m): 12:44pm On Jan 16, 2017
Oga mind ur business is it ur moni, just pH 30k.i know u are jealous of us cos u don't have d money to participate.. Sit down and b preaching what u no nothing abt. Guy make I b ur referer before it's too late. Mmm for life

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Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by mecussey(m): 1:08pm On Jan 16, 2017
somepeople no wan rest bc of mmm...this is exactly how witches and wizards work from the village
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by oladipo322(m): 1:23pm On Jan 16, 2017
abiambo:

ive been matched and paid
Are u serious? how long did it take before u were matched? cos I made my GH since yesterday and I haven't been match up till now
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by Profzeb: 1:29pm On Jan 16, 2017
Hahahahahahahahahaha...huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu...my bank alert just gbagam! oya, let the wailers take their miserable, hopeless, and deplorable wailing to CNN, I ll still provide anoda Help cos even my bible supports mmm in Luke 3:38 "Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Givers never lack ooo! Only the poor in mind and talent will continue to wail when opportunity to alleviate him/her from his/her pitiable and deplorable state. my humble advice to mmm critiques: if u lack financial wisdom, ask ur God to remove d veil covering ur eyes so u can see ur miserable condition.

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Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by Taribizy(m): 2:50pm On Jan 16, 2017
only if I knew sooner angry
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by madri4u: 3:45pm On Jan 16, 2017
Even dose with less than 50k, mmm have not still opened deir account to GH.Na wa for dis mmm return oooo..
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by monex(m): 8:36am On Jan 17, 2017
2tek:
mmm: Together we will change the world.

2tek replies an MMM ANTAGONIST--- maclatunji


The following are my questions to the subscribers to MMM popularly called Mavrodians.
here are the answers from my understanding.

1. Where do you think the money you are collecting through MMM is coming from?

MMM claims not to be a business and not an investment, so where do you think the 30% return which excites you so much is coming from?

ANSWER:the 30% comes from traffic generated from the website,money donated by new members, money re-donated by old members and help from other countries. it is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE for ALL these 4 conditions not to occur. MARK ZUCKERBERG, the owner of Facebook is the 5th or 6th richest in the world and one of the ways he gets his money is through traffic generated by Facebook. MMM is currently in over 120 countries of the world with over 200 million participants.

2. Do you know what a Ponzi scheme is?

I have to ask this question because of those who defend MMM with the claim that they have made money from it. To be the clear, a minority will make money from Ponzi schemes being the early adopters that help to create the exponential growth. However, the latter subscribers are the ones that lose greatly. If you understand this, you will not present this argument as evidence for MMM not being a fraud.

ANSWER:BIG LIE.The early adopters will pay the newcomers. the next set of newcomers will pay the early adopters and it continues like that. its a circle that will never end. Money is redistributed among members of MMM on the principle of gratuitousness, benevolence and reciprocity. MMM members donate FREELY to each other. Nobody was forced to join MMM. We are aware of the risks both implicit and explicit. No man has ever succeeded financially without taking CALCULATED RISKS.

3. Where did you get the money you invested in MMM from?

You could not use that money in any legitimate business?

I ask this question because many MMM subscribers behave as if they were incapable of earning money before MMM came.

ANSWER:A good number of MMM subscribers are gainfully employed and have normal businesses. Remember, There is nothing wrong in having an alternative source of income. Remember, we have DANGOTE CEMENT, DANGOTE SUGAR, DANGOTE RICE FARM and now in the pipeline - DANGOTE REFINERY.

4. Is it that you don’t understand that governments across the world are duty-bound not to allow a Ponzi scheme started by an ex-convict that has scammed people across the world operate freely within their countries?

This one is self-explanatory, Sergey Mavrodi the main brain behind MMM is an ex-convict. He got convicted for scamming Russians with a precursor scheme to MMM.

[b]ANSWER: Point of correction-MMM has never defrauded anyone. MMM became so popular in RUSSIA and was controlling one third of the total money in russia at a time, so the government became jealous and decided to loot the peoples money using 17 trucks to carry/loot cash from MMM OFFICES. That is the main reason MMM doesn't have a CENTRAL ACCOUNT where money can easily be stolen.The government of Russia defrauded the participants,not MMM. They claimed SERGEI MAVRODI/MMM evaded tax but MMM/SERGEI MAVRODI stood his ground telling/educating the government oppressors that MMM is not a business that should pay tax. MMM is just a community of people donating/helping each other with their spare cash. DO you pax tax to the government on the spare money you donate to your brother or neighbour or give out as charity? MMM has come to destroy the current unfair and unjust financial world order/institutions, so don't expect the government,CBN,SEC, etc to be happy. MMM has come to liberate people from financial bondage and servitude. The financial APOCALYPSE is inevitable. MMM servers(cloud servers) are not located in NIGERIA, so the government CAN NOT STOP MMM. the same way the government can not stop facebook,youtube,twitter etc.[/b]


5. Explain how MMM is a revolutionary idea that commercial banking should be afraid of?

MMM subcribers are quick to tag banks as stealing from their customers while MMM is the solution for the masses. Curiously enough, they pay into each other’s bank accounts; curious to say the least.

ANSWER:MMM gives 30% every 30days which the banks CAN NOT give. MMM gives 10% referral bonus. NO serious MMM participant will take loan from any bank again. No serious MMM participant will maintain any fixed deposit in the bank again. No serious MMM participant will buy any dubious, non performing shares again.


6. Do you understand that wealth is created based on the value you create not through this system operated by a few people to rob people of their money while leaving them in the lurch?

Let us say all of us joined MMM, where would productive output come from?

ANSWER: MMM does not stop anyone who is serious from being productive. MMM will in fact assist to provide the financial boost needed for people to be more productive. MANY MMM participants are gainfully employed and engage in various productive businesses and entrepreneurial ventures.


7. Did you anticipate that your ‘investment’ (sorry, your ‘Mavros’) could be frozen without you having any say on what happens next?

I am sure many ‘Mavrodians’ did not expect this December debacle, but we are here.

ANSWER: PAUSE MODE/FREEZING OF ACCOUNTS is one of the strategies employed by MMM for STABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY. its not a new strategy, only those who didn't read/research well about MMM will claim ignorance. THe number of participants GHing*(getting help or withdrawing money) from the system should balance with the number of participants PHing*(providing help or depositing money) otherwise a PAUSE MODE is activated which normally lasts from 1-2months. MMM has lasted for 5years in its current form since 2011, and that is one of the strategies adopted over the years. it was adopted in south africa (www.http://rsa-mmm.co/ ) and zimbabwe http://ea-mmm(DOT)net/ and the MMM in both countries is doing fine now. Even banks couldn't pay many customers this PAST festive season. ATMs were dried, with no cash in them for people during yuletide season. Is that not a form of PAUSE MODE?


8. Do you agree that as a promoter of the scheme, you are quite dubious because you are seeking to reap bountifully at the expense of others when the scheme crashes?

Note I wrote ‘when’ not ‘if’

ANSWER: OGA, MMM CAN NOT and i repeat CAN NOT crash. The worst that can happen is a pause mode/re-start. A pause mode is not a crash. my people perish for lack of knowledge. It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for MMM to crash. MMM is an ideology. MMM is like religion, religion CAN NOT CRASH. The day an individual dies, his own MMM or religion has CRASHED. Everybody in the world CAN NOT die at the same time.In a pause mode, MMM will manually calculate how much each individual has earned from the system, those who have made 'profit' already will have their old mavros/money frozen and released gradually, but the poor,newcomers or 1st timers will be queued up to be paid first by the system followed by others. thereby ensuring that NOBODY looses money. and the system PH/GH RATIO will balance in time.

9. Do you not worry that you could have a hand in the death or grievous harm happening to people who could lose money from MMM and become suicidal?

We already have reports of some people taking poison because their money got frozen this December.

ANSWER: MMM is sincere and transparent, hence the WARNING to ALL participants to participate with their spare money. This is CLEARLY WRITTEN on the programs website home page. MMM participants are adults responsible for their actions.

10. Do you understand that you are effectively using time that you could use for productive activity to promote a questionable scheme at best?

If you understand that time lost is irrecoverable, why waste it?

ANSWER: MMM is not a questionable scheme. MMM is an ideology that is changing lives of millions of people around the world. MMM is bridging the gap between the rich and the poor. If any adult decides to dedicate few hours or days to donate his/her spare money to charity or a neighbour in need, or teach people how to do same, do u consider that wasteful? MMM is helping humanity, that is CERTAINLY NOT WASTEFUL.

Your answers and feedback are quite welcome.

Source: http://www.opinions.ng/top-10-questions-mmm-subscribers-mavrodians-answer/

with this reply, I now understand why ponzi schemes succeed. It is am much about ignorance as it is about greed. Your response to macaltunji is very flawed and ignorant.
Re: Advice To Those Mmm's Paying Into Accounts Tomorrow by kacchy(m): 8:43am On Jan 17, 2017
" Robbing Peter to pay Paul, and robbing Mary to pay Peter then robbing Paul to pay Mary makes the money goes round and at the end.. ..NO ONE GETS ROBBED"


What a long epistle.....if you are to compile such epistle and channel it towards your course in life.. ...you go big pass dangote o.. ...mbok

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