Any progress on the development of the light rail system?

with a thief like fashola and an accomplice like tinubu, how would funds be left for the project. besides they still have to rely on the federal govt for funds because its a costly one. the idea for six geo-political states is bright because they would have a wider base for revenue and probably state police idea would be viable.

Kay 17:

with a thief like fashola and an accomplice like tinubu, how would funds be left for the project. besides they still have to rely on the federal govt for funds because its a costly one. the idea for six geo-political states is bright because they would have a wider base for revenue and probably state police idea would be viable.

For some reason I enjoy reading your posts, I find them refreshingly comical, lol.

/just another fashola lover/ this idiot thinks fashola is clean.

Kay 17:

/just another fashola lover/ this idiot thinks fashola is clean.

And you think Fashola is not working?

@kay17

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/just another fashola lover/ this idiot thinks

This is what I have been saying what we imagine is what we get. We can never get a leader that we dont imagine. If you ask some people what a good leader should be they have no idea. Their imagination has been locked out.

Kay 17 also thinks that Fashola is a thief yet another thinks he is doing well. 2 different thoughts one negative the other positive.

There is no need for the state government to build a light rail. if the transport companies are doing well they should be making alot of money by now. In future they would be given the right to run a light rail but then if the government has already started it they should continue.

Kay 17:

  with a thief like fashola and an accomplice like tinubu, how would funds be left for the project. besides they still have to rely on the federal govt for funds because its a costly one. the idea for six geo-political states is bright because they would have a wider base for revenue and probably state police idea would be viable.

Calling you an idiot would be a compliment.

Visit this thread to see one of the many things the great governor of Lagos has accomplished so far, which is securing investment into the Lekki FTZ and other projects included in the Lekki masterplan: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-222881.0.html

Lagos is undergoing some of the biggest changes in its history and for some of you to badmouth Fashola as if he were a common thief is totally unjust.

Most of d pple complaining about d leaders cant even run dere homes smoothly, not 2 talk of leading dere comunity. As 4 fashola! D guy is doing gud.

Fashola should concentrate on deliverying the railway rather than that pointless ID Card scheme he has embark on. To be sincere who do u think will bear the brunt if the military boys take over now with this YARDUA Debacle - Tinubu, that N16 billion his company is collecting from Lagos State will cease I can gurantee you.

Pointless and irrelevant mombo jombo,

@blackspade, fashola has done so much like repatriating beggars to kaduna, by investing in trees and flowers, also an harebrained scheme for ids for LAGOS CITIZENS, proliferate lgs, depriving people of their property and draw up a proposal to build Atlantis while transportation system has broken down, standard of public schools is declining steadily, crime rate is on the rise, his police and "para-security" are terrorising and extorting the masses and finally creating dustbin jobs. of course in a country that has hardly seen good things and does not understand the nature and process of democracy, he is working!

Pointless and irrelevant mombo jombo,


Why is Tinunbu running like headless chicken from one embassy to the other if he has nothing to lose read extracts below


But some concerned Nigerians were already alerting the international community to the unfolding situation in the country. Former governor of Lagos State, Senator Bola Tinubu, on Tuesday, visited the British Embassy in Abuja, where he discussed the issues of Nigeria’s electoral reform and the president’s health with the high commissioner.

Tinubu had earlier visited the German and the United States embassies before the Tuesday call at the British embassy. He specifically raised the issue of electoral reform during his earlier visits to the embassies.

Sources said Tinubu spoke the minds of opposition figures during the visit to the British embassy, where he was said to have told the high commissioner that Nigeria would abide by constitutional order, no matter what happenned to the president.

Tinubu has nothing to hide, OBJ in his quest to "capture" Lagos at all cost in 2007 threw so much dust at Tinubu but none sticks.He is either clean(which i doubt) or too smart for OBJ,Ribadu and their acomplices.He came out on top at the end of the day and brought Fashola to power.

He was in those foreign embassies to seek support for the electoral reform.Nigeria has a colonial history with Britain and as such can put pressure on the leadership of the legislative arm to expedite action on the reforms.


On the LIGHT RAIL: The mile 2 --badagry axis of the state will be the first port of call as there is construction already going on.The road is being expanded to accommodation rail in the middle.

Kay 17:

@blackspade, fashola has done so much like repatriating beggars to kaduna, by investing in trees and flowers, also an harebrained scheme for ids for LAGOS CITIZENS, proliferate lgs, depriving people of their property and draw up a proposal to build Atlantis while transportation system has broken down, standard of public schools is declining steadily, crime rate is on the rise, his police and "para-security" are terrorising and extorting the masses and finally creating dustbin jobs. of course in a country that has hardly seen good things and does not understand the nature and process of democracy, he is working!

You might want to educate yourself on the projects embarked on and the nature of such projects. You might also want to educate yourself on the projects completed too. Criticism is one thing, but just criticising for the sake of it without being able to make solid points is just another.

Sky Blue:

You might want to educate yourself on the projects embarked on and the nature of such projects. You might also want to educate yourself on the projects completed too. Criticism is one thing, but just criticising for the sake of it without being able to make solid points is just another.

/another illiterate/ i took pains enumerate the several problems, pls mention the projects? oh, Atlantis?

Kay 17:

          /another illiterate/ i took pains enumerate the several problems, pls mention the projects? oh, Atlantis?

Please listen to advice and try not to take this as an insult, stop spouting ignorance and go and do the research. This topic has been discussed at length before and on numerous ocassions so I don't want to keep repeating what has been said over and over again. You mentioned beautification without mentioning all the may roads that have been completed, or the BRT, or the microfinance initiative, or Lekki Expressway which would begin construction soon, or the other projects instigated. You mentioned Eko Atlantic without stating that although it is backed by the Lagos state government, none of the financing is coming from lagos state treasury. Again, do you research and stop spouting ignorance; it is an advice, take it so we can have reasonable discourse, no need to let pride stop you from learning.

pls, has BRT solved the transportation crisis? Lagos is a metropole and one of the most populated cities in Africa and has no City Metro. Joburg has, Cairo has, Windhoek has!!. BRT simply increases the traffic pressure on the road and is definitely not a long term solution and fast becoming a disaster. But the ingenious Govnor has a nice plan: throw out non-indigenes.

Kay 17:

pls, has BRT solved the transportation crisis? Lagos is a metropole and one of the most populated cities in Africa and has no City Metro. Joburg has, Cairo has, Windhoek has!!. BRT simply increases the traffic pressure on the road and is definitely not a long term solution and fast becoming a disaster. But the ingenious Govnor has a nice plan: throw out non-indigenes.

Why are you acting deluded - Can you please confirm what was on ground before fashola came to office. metro projects take time and cost billions - The BRT project was a project that could be delivered quickly. From people i have spoken who use this infrastructure. I am happy to confirm that brt has made a significant difference. Journeys that took hours can now be done in minutes.

Kay 17:

  pls, has BRT solved the transportation crisis? Lagos is a metropole and one of the most populated cities in Africa and has no City Metro.  Joburg has, Cairo has, Windhoek has!!. BRT simply increases the traffic pressure on the road and is definitely not a long term solution and fast becoming a disaster. But the ingenious Govnor has a nice plan: throw out non-indigenes.

He must have personally conveyed this to you in your dream.

Freedom of speech shouldn't be an excuse for the nonsense you're spewing,

The on-going work on site is essentially a re-development project under the auspices of the Lagos State Government with necessary support of interested private sector operators. The objective of the re-development exercise is to; among other targets, ensure that the market, upon completion, is able to accommodate 10,000 traders in a healthy, well-managed environment of world-class standard. The project's plan makes provision for a well-equipped fire station and a truck loading and off-loading facility. Others are a police post, a sewage treatment plant and a car park with the capacity to accommodate at least 580 cars.[quote][/QUOTE]



AS OF OCTOBER 09.






COMPLETION IS DEC. 2010.

Kay 17:

  pls, has BRT solved the transportation crisis? Lagos is a metropole and one of the most populated cities in Africa and has no City Metro.  Joburg has, Cairo has, Windhoek has!!. BRT simply increases the traffic pressure on the road and is definitely not a long term solution and fast becoming a disaster. But the ingenious Govnor has a nice plan: throw out non-indigenes.

BRT has not solved the traffic problem, but has created a viable alternative to danfo buses. BRT since its inception has been well patronised and created a lot of jobs. IT has its dedicated pathway and the service has proved reliable enough for any to use. It is not the panacea to lagos transport problems, but it is one of the ingredients which when integrated together would help curb the traffic and other transport related problems. New jetties have been built and inspectedm and proper boats have been put to use on ferry routes. Expansion of such things would help. Clearing of oshodi has eased the traffic in that area and LASTMA has helped to enforce traffic rules. It appears Lagos state government doesn't want to be the one to pay for Metro, which makes sense because there is a lot to on a limited budget. All of this information is available with basic research, again, I implore you, do some basic research.

blacksta:

Why are you acting deluded  - Can you please confirm what was on ground before fashola came to office. metro projects take time and cost billions - The BRT project was a project that could be delivered quickly.  From people i have spoken who use this infrastructure.  I am happy to confirm that brt has made a significant difference.  Journeys that took hours can now be done in minutes.

 his police and "para-security" have terrorised and extorted the masses, he has given them licence fire at people not criminals, that do not conform to his muslim dress code.he has authorised them to beat and if possible kill people in order to enforce an environmental law. pls mention a place in Lagos were traffic rules are posted. last week, i shredded 5k for a non-existent zebra crossing and because my papers expired two days earlier, thus i was a "criminal"

Kay 17:

 his police and "para-security" have terrorised and extorted the masses, he has given them licence fire at people not criminals, that do not conform to his muslim dress code.he has authorised them to beat and if possible kill people in order to enforce an environmental law. pls mention a place in Lagos were traffic rules are posted. last week, i shredded 5k for a non-existent zebra crossing and because my papers expired two days earlier, thus i was a "criminal"

His police? Since when did Lagos state government run its own police? Please when making allegations at least provide something resembling evidence to back up such. You were driving with expired papers and according to your story decided to bribe the whomever for a non existent zebra crossing? What do you want us to do about that?

babapupa:


He must have personally conveyed this to you in your dream.

Freedom of speech shouldn't be an excuse for the nonsense you're spewing, 

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE ID? what happens to those that are not qualified to have one? its simple.

Sky Blue:

His police? Since when did Lagos state government run its own police? Please when making allegations at least provide something resembling evidence to back up such. You were driving with expired papers and according to your story decided to bribe the whomever for a non existent zebra crossing? What do you want us to do about that?

  you really need basic research. as a nigerian there is an obligation to read the constitution. that is why you think like a illiterate. you do not have a level of expectation for your leaders. the guvnor of each state is to issue orders and instructions on the security of the state to the commissioner.it is thus the responsibility of the state of security is that of the gurnor. and the verdict:terrible.[quote author=babapupa link=topic=360677.msg5042056#msg5042056 date=1259852515]




The on-going work on site is essentially a re-development project under the auspices of the Lagos State Government with necessary support of interested private sector operators. The objective of the re-development exercise is to; among other targets, ensure that the market, upon completion, is able to accommodate 10,000 traders in a healthy, well-managed environment of world-class standard. The project's plan makes provision for a well-equipped fire station and a truck loading and off-loading facility. Others are a police post, a sewage treatment plant and a car park with the capacity to accommodate at least 580 cars.

[/QUOTE]



AS OF OCTOBER 09.






COMPLETION IS DEC. 2010.

  what is this?  you draw up animated cars and buildings and say this is what Fashola has offered you and  you mention that in some distant time,the fruits will be reaped , this is not the first in Nigeria that plans are drawn. Yar dua said 6000mw in dec then we praise and hail him?  besides what benefits will be enjoyed by the masses?

Kay 17:

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE ID? what happens to those that are not qualified to have one? its simple.  you really need basic research. as a nigerian there is an obligation to read the constitution. that is why you think like a illiterate. you do not have a level of expectation for your leaders. the guvnor of each state is to issue orders and instructions on the security of the state to the commissioner.it is thus the responsibility of the state of security is that of the gurnor. and the verdict:terrible.

Point taken. However I hope you are aware that no state can actually choose how many officers it can hire into the force. Lagos State government has been fighting for state police to give it better control over its security, hence when you say it is Fashola's police it just sounds quite silly. Police is a federal insitution, not ka state one. It is thesame reason why state governments don't normally repair federal roads, it is the responsibility of the federal government. Why don't we just stop parambulating and get to the point. You alluded to their being nothing but beaitification projects and the likes, and downplayed the importance of Eko Atlantic and what the project actually entails. You have shown you were ignorant of the subject and you are only interested in arguing for no reason. Stick to the topic of development in Lagos state, is there anything tangible to show for the current administration's term? I believe so. The issue isn't that, the issue is whether you feel it is enough or whether it justifies the time and funds spent. Stop dragging down the quality of the discourse.

Sky Blue:

Point taken. However I hope you are aware that no state can actually choose how many officers it can hire into the force. Lagos State government has been fighting for state police to give it better control over its security, hence when you say it is Fashola's police it just sounds quite silly. Police is a federal insitution, not ka state one. It is thesame reason why state governments don't normally repair federal roads, it is the responsibility of the federal government. Why don't we just stop parambulating and get to the point. You alluded to their being nothing but beaitification projects and the likes, and downplayed the importance of Eko Atlantic and what the project actually entails. You have shown you were ignorant of the subject and you are only interested in arguing for no reason. Stick to the topic of development in Lagos state, is there anything tangible to show for the current administration's term? I believe so. The issue isn't that, the issue is whether you feel it is enough or whether it justifies the time and funds spent. Stop dragging down the quality of the discourse.

the gurnor has no power to recruit or determine the composition of the police within the state but he has operational powers and can assist in arming and providing equipment for them. i feel that the current development he is undertaking is short-sighted and a quick fix which if not supplemented would make matters worse. planting grass and flower about, is good and not bad but all this extensions of roads will ease the transport problem for a while but Lagos due to population growth render these efforts negligible. revolutionary development is needed and not trees and flowers or IDs. Lagos needs a Metro. clearing helpless beggars would only hurt our conscience.

It'd be the eighth wonder of the world to build and start operating a rail system in a year as the OP is insinuating. Even ordinary rail station maintenance work in London takes 12-18months.
We may all have different yardsticks for measuring success in public office but I think he has done well enough in arguably the most important aspect of good governance- human development. He has succeeded in reorientating a greater aspect of the Lagos populace as to the right purpose of life and power, he has helped improve self-discipline by using his own self as a foremost example. He still has a lot to do to transform Lagos in the true sense of it but I daresay he has the will to and it's only our CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and VIGILANCE that can help spur him to stay in line and not mindless criticism!

Kay 17:

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE ID? what happens to those that are not qualified to have one? its simple.  you really need basic research. as a nigerian there is an obligation to read the constitution. that is why you think like a illiterate. you do not have a level of expectation for your leaders. the guvnor of each state is to issue orders and instructions on the security of the state to the commissioner.it is thus the responsibility of the state of security is that of the gurnor. and the verdict:terrible.

It was not meant for you, you're incapable of rational thoughts. I dare not waste my time messing with an ignoramus like you,

Kay 17:

COMPLETION IS DEC. 2010.
  what is this?  you draw up animated cars and buildings and say this is what Fashola has offered you and  you mention that in some distant time,the fruits will be reaped , this is not the first in Nigeria that plans are drawn. Yar dua said 6000mw in dec then we praise and hail him?  besides what benefits will be enjoyed by the masses?

Smart observation! Nigerians are generally gullible, even the ones who consider themselves smart. I wonder why we are still talking about the same problems Fela talked about 30 - 35 years ago (water, light, food, house). Mind you there were plans then. I don't want plans, I want action! I want completed projects, not project designs and concepts.

Posted by: Onlytruth
Posted on: Yesterday at 10:02:06 PM

I want action! I want completed projects, not project designs and concepts

What this means is that I dont want you to imagine again just act that is dangerous. WE MUST IMAGINE UNTILL WE HAVE NO MORE SPACE TO IMAGINE.

A MAN THAT STOPS TALKING BECAUSE HE IS TIRED OF TALKING WILL GO TO WAR

A MAN THAT STOPS THNIKING OR IMAGINING BECAUSE HE IS TIRED WILL START ACTING


Now to babapupa and sky blue

The management of state road is where the problems stems from. We need to sell out the road in block to those that can manage it. We also need to create bus station that the road managers would build and maintain.

reason for this is that when private firms manage road they will cut cost and make it easy for movement of traffic, I will give an ensample.

You have a road that could save alot of money and free traffic but there are houses and other structures on the road's path.

SCENERIO 1

If the State government was to take charge of this the cost will be skyrocketed because the agents and the compensated would ask for so much that it would be better for the state government to abandone the cause

SCENARIO 2

If it was private company the cost will be minimal and beside there will be alot of bus terminus springing up even houses where people live would be mad bus terminus. The road business is a business just like any other business we must make sure that we sell off the state road to road companies. We need to free our roads