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Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 12:02am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Splinz: The funny thing is the more they argue the more the more they show their ingnorance of the Bible. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 12:04am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: God hates people who refuse to understand and accept the Truth. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 12:05am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: God hates refusal to understand and accept the Truth. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 12:06am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: This Bible verse talks about the cremonial Sabbaths and not the weekly sabbaths. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 12:14am On Feb 17, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: Your questions are not clear. just click that link and read you will get all the answers and more. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by Ubenedictus(m): 12:21am On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent:hahaha, tell me something. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 12:24am On Feb 17, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: I wonder why they argue blindly. the same paul and JESUS who they said abolished the law also made statements to the contrary. but they will overlook those bible verses and cling to their misinterpreted and misunderstood Bible verses. none of them has over rationalized to me why JESUS or Paul and other apostles still exalt the law which they claim he abolished. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by MuttleyLaff: 5:21am On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent:#1 What is God? What's your response going to be? Is God a Spirit? No or Yes? #2 What then will His law be? What's your response going to be? Will His law be ''The law of the Spirit''? No or Yes? #3 What has the ''The law of the Spirit'' set us free from? What's your response going to be? Has ''The law of the Spirit'' set is free from ''The law of sin and death''? No or Yes? #4 What are some examples of the ''The law of sin and death''? What's your response going to be? Is the ''The Ten commandments'' one of some examples the ''The law of sin and death''? No or Yes? Now, lets go up a gear a bit or step a bit in deeper waters #5 What is the law of gravity, what does it do and/or what is it all about? #6 What is the law of aerodynamics, what does it do and/or what is it all about? #7 Does the law of gravity produce any effect whilst the law of aerodynamics is being made use of? What's your response going to be? No or Yes? I've now made it clearer and easier for you to climb the mountain of seven questions above, and so please stop underachieving by not answering them yourself Trust me, hey, the view from the top is worth the climb and struggle of answering them |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 7:47am On Feb 17, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: What is God? What's your response going to be? Is God a spirit: Yes #2 What then will His law be? What's your response going to be? Will His law be ''The law of the Spirit''? No #3 What has the ''The law of the Spirit'' set us free from? What's your response going to be? Has ''The law of the Spirit'' set is free from ''The law of sin and death''? No, Who called it law of the spirit? #4 What are some examples of the ''The law of sin and death''? You are really mixing things up. What's your response going to be? Is the ''The Ten commandments'' one of some examples the ''The law of sin and death''? : No Now, lets go up a gear a bit or step a bit in deeper waters #5 What is the law of gravity, what does it do and/or what is it all about? What has gravity to do with religeon? #6 What is the law of aerodynamics, what does it do and/or what is it all about? #7 Does the law of gravity produce any effect whilst the law of aerodynamics is being made use of? What's your response going to be? Yes? It is Obvious you didn't understand What the law and its purpose is. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 7:53am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: I just did that. It is Obvious you don't read and understand the Bible. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 7:55am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: I wonder why you argue blindly. the same paul and JESUS who you said abolished the law also made statements to the contrary. but you will overlook those bible verses and cling to your misinterpreted and misunderstood Bible verses. none of you has over rationalized to me why JESUS or Paul and other apostles still exalt the law which you claim he abolished. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by sonmvayina(m): 8:01am On Feb 17, 2017 |
There is no old or new convenant, God does not make mistakes. the old testament and new testament are 2 different religions. the christains only stole the tanaka from the jews and added it to their own and called it the old testament..they are basicallly 2 contraditting ideologies... |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:05am On Feb 17, 2017 |
ayoku777: People misunderstand this Bible verse ,we are not under the law but grace.they conclude that the law has been done away with. But this is misinterpretation of the Bible. First what is under:under means to govern,manage,authority,been subjected to. The Bible defines Sin as the breaking of the law.James2:9-12 And the wages of Sin(breaking of the law is death) Romans6:23 Been under the law means been subjected to the consquences or influence or authority of the law.which means anyone who breaks the law was subjected to death penatly. as shown by this Bible verses Deuteronomy 13:6, 10; 21:18, 21; 22: 21-28, and all of Leviticus 20,you will read there are whole series of injunctions concerning the putting to death of persons who were idolaters, who were rebellious to their parents, who committed adultery or were guilty of incest, who cursed father or mother -- in fact, who violated any part of the moral code. Indeed, someone has estimated that no less than nine of the Ten Commandments are specifically mentioned in connection with the penalty of death for their violation. Grace:grace means to pardon,to show kindness,to forebear. When Jesus died. he fulfilled the requirements of the law by dieing in our place ,through his death we obtained mercy. Thats we are now nolonger subjected to death penalty as prescribed by the law, but we are now pardoned and given a second chance .but We are not given mercy that we should continue in Sin.(breaking the law) no but we should live in accordance to the law as people who have obtained mercy.Romans6:1-2, 14:15 An example of Law and grace is found in John8:1-12. When people brought and adultress woman to Jesus, and asked him to permit them to stone her to death according to the law. Jesus wrote with his finger on the ground, and when they persisted Jesus said to them. He without sin should cast the first stone. they all left one after the other, Then Jesus lookup and asked the woman.where is your accusers and the woman said they have gone. Jesus said to her i don't condem you go and sin no more( do not break the law again) this is a typical example of grace at work.without grace the woman was supposed to die by stoning but Jesus offered her and all of us Grace(pardon,second chance). Now observe the law remains the same becos it is the law only that can point out sin ,Romans 4:15 and Romans 5:13. What changed was the dispensation of Justice instead of sinners been put to death immediately. We have now obtained grace or pardon. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:10am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Splinz: I wonder why they ingnore the last part of Paul's instruction for christains to establish the law. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 8:11am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Ubenedictus: You just mudered the Bible. Pls rationalize. or explain to me why James said we will be judged by the law of liberty or that "Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin [break the law], because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid." Romans 6:14, 15. "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by Splinz(m): 8:33am On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent: They are cherry-picking the Scriptures, and then terribly twisting others that cut their argument in the face. Imagine someone saying that "The Ten Commandment is to point sinners to Christ, and that they (supposed Christians) are freed from it". Ridiculous! How can what is holy, righteous and good be for sinners? I mean, these people defied even commonsense in their arguments against the Law. Instead of tackling sins in their lives, they are tackling the Law, wishing it has been abolished because they hate it anyway, being carnally minded (Romans 8:7). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by MuttleyLaff: 9:14am On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent:Good answer blueAgent:Oh dear blueAgent:Yeepa! You said ''The law of the Spirit'' has not us free from ''The law of sin and death'' blueAgent:For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death - Romans 8:2 Yee! Where on earth are you asking such a rookie question like this for blueAgent:Just answer the question jaare. blueAgent:Oooookay. If no, what is the law of sin and death then? blueAgent:It is a law introduced or established by the same God Look up James 1:27, to know about what really is religion. SMH blueAgent:Before Christ came, Moses' laws served as our guardian. Christ came so that we could receive God's approval by faith - Galatians 3:24 6He has enabled us to be ministers of his new covenant. This is a covenant not of written laws, but of the Spirit. The old written covenant ends in death; but under the new covenant, the Spirit gives life. 7The old way, with laws etched in stone, led to death, though it began with such glory that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses’ face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away. 8Shouldn’t we expect far greater glory under the new way, now that the Holy Spirit is giving life? 9If the old way, which brings condemnation, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new way, which makes us right with God! 10In fact, that first glory was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory of the new way. 11So if the old way, which has been replaced, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new, which remains forever - 2 Corinthians 3:6-11 It is obvious from your evading answers to some of the questions that you don't understand what the law and its purpose is. Didnt you know or dont you understand that the law was a guardian until something better in Romans 8:2 & Galatians 3:24 turned up Please brother, try again but this time truthfully answer questions #5-#7 |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 2:38pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: Your Bible skills got me laughing. like i said earlier just click that link and read for yourself. www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4983/t/written-in-stone |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 2:52pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
sonmvayina: You need help. 1 Like |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by sonmvayina(m): 3:18pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by blueAgent(m): 6:46pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
sonmvayina: You murdered the Bible and you said the truth hurts. Show me where in the Bible that says all the old testament and new testament are different religeons. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Am sure your Bible does not contain that Bible verse above. becos that verses says all scripture including old and new are to be obey or used for teaching and correction, your type are the cause of the confusion in Christaindom pls cease from confusing people with your heresy. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by sonmvayina(m): 8:34pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent: well, you just have to accept the fact that some people see the bible just the way they see Harry potter and the chambers of secret(my favorite)....a story book. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:21pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent:thank God he said by the law of liberty not the old law "Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10. Abeg let us now establish the law. What is the purpose of the old law? We all know it wasnt to make men righteous. So what was its purpose? |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:24pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent:Nobody in the new testament claims the old law must be obeyed by xtians. instead it says it was fulfilled, abolished, became obsolate and now we are under sumtin james calls the law of liberty. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:25pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent:It is obvious u want the bible to say what it doesnt. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by Ubenedictus(m): 9:34pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
blueAgent:God hates teaching heresy esp when it is the old law. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by Goshen360(m): 3:02am On Feb 18, 2017 |
christemmbassey: You're blessed sir. I now understand that your favorite verse sooo well now.....he that is born of God cannot sin. Definitely, the Apostle by the Spirit knows what he's saying to the church. We'll break bread together soon, God willing. |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by MuttleyLaff: 4:15am On Feb 18, 2017 |
blueAgent:Moses' Teachings couldn't accomplish everything that God required. But we have something else that gives us greater confidence and allows us to approach God - Hebrews 7:19 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ - John 1:17 Certainly, sin shouldn't have power over you because you're not controlled by laws (i.e. for you not under The Written Law) but by God's favor. - Romans 6:14 Certainly, there is a curse on all who rely on their own efforts to live according to a set of standards because Scripture says, "Whoever doesn't obey EVERYTHING that is written in Moses' Teachings is cursed." - Galatians 3:10 For whoever keeps the whole Written Law and slips in one thing, he is condemned by the entire Law - James 2:10 But now we have died to those laws that bound us (i.e. we have been released or exempted from The Written Law) God has broken their effect on us so that we are serving in a new spiritual way, not in an old way dictated by written words (i.e. the Old Order Scriptures) - Romans 7:6 So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don't get tied up again in slavery to the law. - Galatians 5:1 Another good read is Romans 8:1-6 What you, called, bible skills that got you laughing, actually is, 2 Timothy 2:15 in action, an approved & unashamed workman rightly dividing the word of truth blueAgent:#5 What is the law of gravity, what does it do and/or what is it all about? #6 What is the law of aerodynamics, what does it do and/or what is it all about? #7 Does the law of gravity produce any effect whilst the law of aerodynamics is being made use of? What's your response going to be? No or Yes? Why are you so petrified of answering questions #5 - #7 above reproduced? It is a pitiable spectacle watching you repeatedly avoid answering questions #5 - #7 and watch your dire cringeworthy performance of needing somebody's else website to speak up for you You just have to man up men. Talk to me yourself and dont palm me off to Doug My discourse is with you blueAgent and not with Doug nor his amazingfacts website Tbh, you know that, if you answer questions #5 - #7 it would dispel the myth you've entertained Also, I suspect you're a closet Seventh Day Adventist and that's another reason why are steering away from answering questions #5 - #7 You're chickening out from giving the correct responses to questions #5 - #7, all because you're afraid your answers will shatter your illusion that the Ten Commandments cant be cancelled out or be rendered inoperative |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by petra1(m): 9:20am On Feb 18, 2017 |
blueAgent: The site is quiet enlightening. I want to ask , Is pastor Dough a Pentecostal minister or Adventist. Also what's his opinion on sabbath . I couldn't get the details |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by MuttleyLaff: 9:49am On Feb 18, 2017 |
petra1:Doug Batchelor is a Pentecostal cum Seventh Day Adventist, an ex-junkie, half Jewish half Gentle, son of multi-millionaire parents petra1:He with complete sincerity and commitment believes in the sabbath http://www.signstimes.com/?p=article&a=40031606241.786 The comments after his opinion are very interesting to read amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/inside-report/magazine/id/10801/t/seize-the-day-keeping-the-sabbath-holypart-1 amazingfacts.org/news-and-features/inside-report/magazine/id/10802/t/seize-the-day-keeping-the-sabbath-holypart-2 |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by petra1(m): 2:40pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: GBAM! |
Re: Does The New Covenant Abolish The Ten Commandments? by MuttleyLaff: 2:46pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
petra1:He switched from Pentecostal's first day of the week Sunday Sabbath to Saturday, the original seventh day of the week Sabbath he says. GBAM! |
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