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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Amazondepth(m): 3:09pm On Mar 02, 2017
Makes no sense at all. He should have just declined d offer. U can't break tradition when u r supposed to be the custodian and identify of that tradition

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Guyman02: 3:10pm On Mar 02, 2017
His belief his life. We should be moving forward and not backwards. That should not stop him from bringing progress to TIV land

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by obiageIi(f): 3:10pm On Mar 02, 2017
Bullsh.t, the fool should leave the throne for someone responsible

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Olukat(m): 3:12pm On Mar 02, 2017
The man is sick sad sad sad
Can someone remind him its a traditional stool? sad sad sad

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Ursino(f): 3:14pm On Mar 02, 2017
comos:
he should relinquish the title.

since it is a traditional title

Nope! you cant run away from reality.It's only a coward that does that.
He has to be with them to teach them the real way, through Jesus Christ.

Have you for once thought about the origin of some of the christian celebrations we have today? most of them have their origins from the traditional Jewish celebrations. The early Christians adopted those celebrations (on those jewish dates), removed the fetishistic part of them, sanitised them, and gradually turned them to what we have today.

It's only by identifying with them that he can change and win them for Christ.

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Nobody: 3:14pm On Mar 02, 2017
Before Christianity, the English had their own traditional deities. But these days the British monarch is anointed according to the Christian faith.

Even the ancient Roman Emperors were devotees (Pontifex Maximus) of the traditional Roman Religion. Today the Roman Emperor (the Pope) is a devotee of the Christian Religion. It was even Constantine The Great that looked up one day and saw the cross superimposed on the sun which the Romans then worshiped. That signified to him the ascendancy of the then new religion, Christianity, and from that day, he became a Christian.

Tor Tiv may just have seen his own 'cross superimposed over the sun'. Who knows?

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by tarboshi(m): 3:25pm On Mar 02, 2017
comos:
he should relinquish the title.

since it is a traditional title
.

What is the true meaning of tradition? Is it synonymous with idol worship? Definitely not.

We have
Tradional marriage
Traditional medicine
Traditional music
Traditional attire

These things are not about idol worship but rather the culture of the people.

Its indeede an asset for Tiv people to have a King of his pedigree

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by RonJeremy: 3:25pm On Mar 02, 2017
Christians being intolerant like their fellow Muslims. When the gods of Tivs now refuse to save them from the hands of the Fulani killers, they won't know where there wahala is coming from...

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Nobody: 3:28pm On Mar 02, 2017
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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by nicelaw(m): 3:32pm On Mar 02, 2017
This one is strong.. . grin grin
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by samuelolowoniyi(m): 3:33pm On Mar 02, 2017
mumsie:
Good one....God will give him the grace to take the people to the promise land.

Amen A Man who stands on his word right from when I knew him as the VC of Fed Uni Dutsin ma Katsina State
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by jayteetomoh(m): 3:33pm On Mar 02, 2017
plz get ur information right, he was also the pioneer VC of federal university dutsinma, Katsina State.
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by discman2k2(m): 3:44pm On Mar 02, 2017
psucc:
He should quit then.
What actually then took him to the traditional stool?
To win the Souls of the whole Community of Tiv. That's a strategic Soul winner.

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by odehaj: 3:45pm On Mar 02, 2017
Good one tor tiv. I have heated so much about you sir.
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by discman2k2(m): 3:46pm On Mar 02, 2017
RonJeremy:
Christians being intolerant like their fellow Muslims. When the gods of Tivs now refuse to save them from the hands of the Fulani killers, they won't know where there wahala is coming from...
How many times has the Trado god saved them from Herdsmen?

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by begwong: 3:49pm On Mar 02, 2017
psucc:
He should quit then.
What actually then took him to the traditional stool?
As if he will never die, must he be sworn before any gaddamm god? Dat one wey swear with the 'swem' of shey e still die
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by UjSizzle(f): 3:50pm On Mar 02, 2017
Badgers14:
Remember what Jesus said, Give what belongs to Caesar to Caesar and what belongs to God to God.

If he is a staunch Deeler live member.. He should be gingering to be the District pastor or even the GO and not being a king.
Jesus never encouraged us to worship idols. That scripture you quoted was specifically with respect to paying taxes. Biko stop twisting the word of God.

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by discman2k2(m): 3:53pm On Mar 02, 2017
obiageIi:
Bullsh.t, the fool should leave the throne for someone responsible
Generation of immature people. How could call someone who is a Prof, VC pf several Nigerian Universities & now, nominated by his people to rule them. When u study well, & detour from ur over-indulgence in d less-beneficial social media, then u would understand what "Paradigm Change" means.

At worst, he's not ur mate, so be respectful to elders.

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Badgers14: 3:59pm On Mar 02, 2017
UjSizzle:

Jesus never encouraged us to worship idols. That scripture you quoted was specifically with respect to paying taxes. Biko stop twisting the word of God.

Stopped twisting my words angry angry I never said Jesus encouraged idol worshipping.

This guy knows what he was up to.. The king preserves the culture and legacy of his peoples tradition and that entails lots of things. I am not here to adjudicate whether it is right or wrong but that is the way it is and he should respect that.

What do you take of a bishop that wants to be ordained with Sango's staff instead of the staff that the church provides

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by KingSango(m): 4:01pm On Mar 02, 2017
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by AngelicBeing: 4:03pm On Mar 02, 2017
Ursino:


Nope! you cant run away from reality.It's only a coward that does that.
He has to be with them to teach them the real way, through Jesus Christ.

Have you for once thought about the origin of some of the christian celebrations we have today? most of them have their origins from the traditional Jewish celebrations. The early Christians adopted those celebrations (on those jewish dates), removed the fetishistic part of them, sanitised them, and gradually turned them to what we have today.

It's only by identifying with them that he can change and win them for Christ.
cool
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by musicwriter(m): 4:03pm On Mar 02, 2017
If only we knew history, we'll understand the idea of bible God originated in Africa because Europeans dethroned African Kings forcing them to convert to Christianity and getting baptized.

Discard anything called religion that makes you worship a god- whether local or foreign. The fact Europeans succeeded dethroning our Kings (custodians of our gods) means our gods have no power, neither does any other gods.

However, if the custom says he should take his oath of office before a god, he should go ahead and do it. No god have any power over you, as long as you don't believe it.

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by WOruGunu(m): 4:05pm On Mar 02, 2017
mumsie:
Good one....God will give him the grace to take the people to the promise land.
which promise land?
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by OYAY(m): 4:07pm On Mar 02, 2017
The man should for his sake leave the stool for the traditionalist as he has opined.
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Akinaukwa: 4:13pm On Mar 02, 2017
The same people lambasting him for not swearing to the gods of the Tivs will also be the same set of people to condemn him if he swore by the gods and later made human sacrifices to fortify his stay on the throne as demanded by the fake gods. He did the right thing if they believe there is one God who is supreme.
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by dederocs(m): 4:20pm On Mar 02, 2017
Traditions are traditions, as long as it is not for evil, our traditions are part of our heritage,who we are... What do you want with the traditional stool, if you won't keep to the rites, this sounds really corny to me.
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Tortivchina(m): 4:21pm On Mar 02, 2017
This is a good development for Tiv people. Tiv people are God fearing people corruption free and security wise they are the best in Nigeria
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by sniperr007(m): 4:23pm On Mar 02, 2017
Badgers14:
Remember what Jesus said, Give what belongs to Caesar to Caesar and what belongs to God to God.

If he is a staunch Deeler live member.. He should be gingering to be the District pastor or even the GO and not being a king.
He can evangelize with his position by help bringing godly changes to d pple and b an example for other trad rulers in Nigeria
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Nobody: 4:28pm On Mar 02, 2017
omenkaLives:
That man was a staunch Dipper Life member and it still beats me how he came to accepting being the king of Tivs.

Come what may, the Tiv nation seems a lot more confident about the future than they were under Akaw e Torkuka of blessed memory.

Like play like play, Fanuchi don become Prince ooo! cheesy

This life ehn.. .


Now you've found your voice but when fulani herdsmen attack your people, you go blind, deaf and dumb.


https://www.nairaland.com/3659699/fulani-herdsmen-invade-benue-community
Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by Elnino4ladies: 4:51pm On Mar 02, 2017
tarboshi:
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What is the true meaning of tradition? Is it synonymous with idol worship? Definitely not.

We have
Tradional marriage
Traditional medicine
Traditional music
Traditional attire

These things are not about idol worship but rather the culture of the people.

Its indeede an asset for Tiv people to have a King of his pedigree


Swerm is part of tiv culture he must respect that

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by omenkaLives(m): 4:58pm On Mar 02, 2017
jusRadical:



Now you've found your voice but when fulani herdsmen attack your people, you go blind, deaf and dumb.


https://www.nairaland.com/3659699/fulani-herdsmen-invade-benue-community
Mehn! People dey suffer for this forum oo. Imagine how this one wan die of stomach ache ontop very normal comment wey I make. Shoo! cheesy

Guy sorry oo. Really wish I could help. You must be a very lonely child in need of some love, and it is just unfortunate no one seems to be looking your way. cheesy

Good bye, and happy wailing. smiley

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Re: Tor Tiv Breaks With Tradition, Declines To Be Sworn-in Before “traditional God” by seunmsg(m): 5:02pm On Mar 02, 2017
Why accept a traditional title when you are not ready to accept the traditional rites and obligations that come along with it?

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