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Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by pazienza(m): 11:34pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Truth is, he is right. The only way Biafra can be achieved is via war since most of its citizens call for death or Biafra. As much as I admire your post, I must confess that it reeks of bias and subjectivism. Perhaps you didn't know that top powerhouses were divided between Biafra and Nigeria? Nigeria was supported by; USA United Kingdom Soviet Union Bulgaria Bulgaria Egypt Syria Algeria While Biafra was supported by: France France Israel Portugal Portugal Spain South Africa Rhodesia (Presently unrecognized) Tanzania Biafra never really got military support from any of those nations you listed, only France gave partial half hearted military support initially but later withdrew the meagre support they were giving when the British threatened to arm secessionist groups in French colonies. Israel was busy with their own war with the Arabs then to offer any one military support. The rest there only gave moral support to Biafra, no military. In contrast. The British gave full unrestrained military support to Nigeria and USSR also gave full Naval support to Nigeria. 7 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by ConqueredWest: 11:35pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
realjoker: So painful you have just a vote when the referendum comes 4 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by bantudra: 11:35pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
realjoker: thats why i like been on their threads,,,..they are sooo funny....if i feel down and lonely i just visit a biafra thread... it always brighten my day.... ..confirmed.. if they wouldnt add the south south to biafra the ol time,i would just be having fun... adding the ss the ol time is what pisses me off... |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 11:37pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Efewestern: Depends on what you want to achieve. Generally, public schools are used mainly because they tend to represent a wider range of people. You may use private schools if you don't have time to wait till the strike is called off but state it as a limitation of study. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Sanchez01: 11:37pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Dedetwo:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War There is video on YouTube on the Biafran war. A documentary from the Biafran Camp with over an hour duration on YouTube. I'm sure it would change a whole lot. Ciao! |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ikechu10: 11:37pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Sanchez01: This one couldn't even keep up with why I called them laughable. Heya poor thing. I even mentioned the reason multiple pages back. Urhobo and Edo are laughable because the IPOB you've been screeching about, the leader aka Nnamdi KANU have NEVER classified una as Biafrans. When he was in the radio, the tribes he spoken as biafra have been ijaws, ibibio, efik, Igala, idoma, etc hence it's understand if they speak. The tribe he does not want screeching about the most is laughable to me considering since last year, the people whom have been shouting against Biafra have been predominately you people. I recall last year how many attention seeking threads you urhobo opened speaking against Biafra and I recall how many times several pro-Biafrans stated you aren't wanted. Hell trust me, I know in few months coming up, I bet all I got that we would see yet again another urhobo attention seeking thread regarding biafra. Bet me on that!! 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ikechu10: 11:40pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
bantudra: Typical of a BMC Shia formed military and he saw it in the video, yet can't provide the video 6 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by realjoker(m): 11:41pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Ikechu10:Lolz. Only PDP sycophants grieving the defeat of their hero are the only ones that want beerfraud even after when their hero's kinsmen have accepted the outcome of the election in good faith and have move on to re strategize, the wailing zombies are still wailing "beerfraud or death " like castrated dogs. 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by bantudra: 11:43pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Ikechu10: yea...run dmc.. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by bantudra: 11:44pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
iSlayer2: is it not osu..?.. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ikechu10: 11:44pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
realjoker: LNC is for political This host is truly a clown. You are aware that LNC started DURING GEJ RULE!!! Then again, I'm not surprised you Afonja goats think IPOB that started during GEJ rule as well is politics as well. I repeat if NDA is political, explain why your government is paying people off to condemn them and why they still threatening. I repeat you are aware they threatened again 2 months ago correct? Get educated you fool. 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Nobody: 11:45pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
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Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ikechu10: 11:48pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
realjoker: Stop shaking your boots. If you are sure that "everyone wants Nigeria and only PDP sycophants and SE miscreants are the only one against it", the sensible thing is to stop shaking in your knickers and move for referendum. Shut IPOB, Massob, NDA and LNC up how about that. Oh I know you're afraid of the outcome 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by realjoker(m): 11:49pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Ikechu10:When last did they threatened? And if you don't know, Nigeria is currently producing above 2m bpd oil and the most painful part of it is that your generous 5 SE governors don't reject their own shares of the Niger delta loots (oil revenues) 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Sanchez01: 11:50pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
pazienza: Dedetwo: Honestly, I don't know what you guys have been reading or listening to but you sure have entertained me tonight. How could you guys say that France or any of the country tries I mentioned never supported Biafra just because they immediately had one engagement or the other? Let's cut to the chase, there are many journals and publications online explaining the role of France and the other countries. If Radio Biafra has been telling you that Ojukwu got no help from external forces, then let me be the first to inform you that it is telling lies. I am presently reading a journal of Spain in the Nigerian Civil War and both of simultaneously came up with 'France went on a tea break, while South Africa went clubbing'. At least if journals would lie, videos won't. 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by fratermathy(m): 11:51pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
iSlayer2: Umuigbo kwenu! A tiger never hides his stripes! This is the best thread I've seen in a long time. See them killing themselves for minorities wey nor even send una message. Nigeria is really a complex mix of comedy. IPOBians are the highest clowns. I'm happy this thread proved all my issues to be true. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by pazienza(m): 11:51pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
If there is another civil war, God forbid, Nigeria would not only suffer the casualty. The other side would receive more blows than Nigeria itself. Ojukwu never wanted a peaceful dissolution and he thought he had everything all mapped out until he saw that the odds were in his favour, which prompted him to flee to Abidjan. Trust is, Biafra too would get the support of other countries. Don't be surprised that a particular country try might be selling weapons to both. After all, it is profit first before allegiance. It is either you have your cash at hand or trade with other means you have. Ojukwu went to Aburi to secure peacefulresolution of the Biafran issue, Gowon scuttled it and reneged on all agreements reached at Aburi, replacing them with Decree 8. Ojukwu always called for UN supervised referendum in all parts of Biafra, the minorities areas mainly. Gowon again declined, preferring war instead. Only mischievous dishonest beings driven by innate rabid case of Igbophobia accuse Ojukwu of not seeking for peace but war. Gowon and his ilks also felt the war would have lasted few months in 1967, they never considered Eastern region a formidable foe, but we know how that turned out. Today it's going to be hard to use tactics like starvation of civilian populations and bombing of market places and houses full of women and children to win the war like Gowon and Awolowo did in the 60's. Nigeria won't get away with fighting dirty. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by realjoker(m): 11:53pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Ikechu10:Why should I move for another Referendum? Or is the one that almighty liepod yoots promise us they are going to organize won't take place any longer? 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ngozi123(f): 11:54pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
bantudra: I knew you were the same poster behind that Tsdarkside, or whatever he calls himself, account. 6 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Sanchez01: 11:55pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Ikechu10:So what changed recently? Why the sudden interest from the foot soldiers? Perhaps because he is incarcerated and there seems to be no other option in pushing forward? Yarn me another tori. |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ikechu10: 11:55pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
realjoker: Chei you are an embarrassment to Afonja. I suggest allowing someone else to take over, you are ignorant as lord knows what. A walking sterotype!!! So you are telling me after I told you repeatedly on this page eveb that NDA made a threat 2 months ago, your ignorant self is asking "when last did they threatened?" Jesus see Wetin I dey talk to. 2 months ago means January 2017. Go back to school! Read the article http://saharareporters.com/2017/01/08/niger-delta-avengers-announce-plans-massive-attacks-Oil-facilities Get out of the hole in your oshgbo village, get your ass to work instead of being a paid rat of APC aka BMC and start READ ING the news. Ignorance is not cute! 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by pazienza(m): 11:56pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
Sanchez01: No such support came from France or Spain. Whatever journal you are reading that says otherwise is trash. France initial support was too meagre, it was like a drop of water compared to the ocean Britain was giving Nigeria,,and it wasn't long before the stopped entirely. So, if someone said France gave no support, the person is right as well. 6 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Nobody: 11:57pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
[s] Nowenuse:[/s] This guy makes stupid look stupid. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ikechu10: 12:00am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Sanchez01: Sudden interest from the foot soliders I suggest reread the post replies of the pro biafra here plus all the other attention thread from your people. Get out of your delusion!!!! The only person, emphasis on the word PERSON, seeking for your inclusion is the current man Kanu left in charge. Even at that, several does not even support him on it. There's a reason why IPOB delta have NEVER done in a protest in Warri. It's not because they can't do it, it's because una aren't wanted. 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by realjoker(m): 12:02am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Ikechu10:Lolz. Seems your emotions don't let you sees the clearer pictures. OK let me agree that they threatened some months ago, so what do they threatened about was is that they are part of Beerfraud? or they announced that liepod yoots being their speaker? Tell me what their demands are |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by pazienza(m): 12:03am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Before you blame the black nation for the present woes, let it be known that no country has ever seceeded peacefully. That Spain and Catalan are yet to means they haven't gotten to the brink. This is not just about the black man. Yes, Caucasians enslaved us but an Igbo man thwarted the North from seceeding and even signed the anti-secession law you suffer from today. No Igbo man stopped the North from secession, or stopped anyone from signing the session clause, if you have any better argument towards this, bring it here : https://www.nairaland.com/3683347/10-most-developed-local-government/17#55009568, as your superiors had failed to defend that falsehood. Iceland seceded successfully from Denmark peacefully. Czechoslovakia divided peacefully into Czech republic and Slovakia. Examples abound of peaceful dissolutions of countries. Even at that, if Biafra seceded today, it cannot said to be peaceful, as we would have lost millions in the Biafran war and hundreds in peaceful protests to achieve that. 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Sanchez01: 12:05am On Mar 31, 2017 |
pazienza:Mehn! You've all been lied to! So the man who led people to the slaughterhouse became a hero! So you mean the man who was given asylum in Cote D'Ivoire was actually on a peace resolution mission? I'm so done laughing! Below is an excerpt from the man himself. https://www.nairaland.com/881738/unforgivable-blunders-ojukwu-during-biafran https://www.nairaland.com/609361/why-went-cote-divorie-didnt |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Ikechu10: 12:08am On Mar 31, 2017 |
realjoker: Story don change You truly are a walking stereotype. Chei!! Afonja, Afonja, how many times have I called you? So you equally don't know what you've been screeching about. You screeched that no SS asked for Referendum. I provided you quote from NDA saying they want a referendum. You say NDA is gone, they are political, they've stopped.. I told you NDA that you claim is "gone" made a threat 2 months ago You screech against what I said and I posted the article. Go back to your free education. You need 2 more of it 4 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by pazienza(m): 12:11am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Sanchez01: "He said in the memo that Gowon had given too much away in Aburi and that it would lead to the destruction of the country. He further added that Gowon had “legalised” total regionalism which “will make the centre very weak.” Akenzua alluded in his memo that a weak centre would lead to confederation and total disintegration of the country". https://www.nairaland.com/3143222/biafra-memo-oba-akenzua-aburi "In an authoritative and detailed memorandum on the background, cause and consequences of the Nigerian civil war issued in November 1968 by more than sixty British subjects, including Sir Robert Stapleton, the last British governor of the Eastern region( 1959-60), it was concluded that of the 37 percent of the population which they estimated that minority group represented in Biafra, only 10% would favour continued association with the federal government". The. New York review of Books, Volume 14,Number 8. April 23, 1970 "The unprecedented mingling of all groups and settling of many minority people in the Ibo heartland during the course of the war was simply taken for granted. Nonetheless, the Biafran regime was unreservedly committed to plebiscites in any disputed areas within Biafra, or on borders, so that people involved could determine their allegiance. It was proposed that these plebiscites be conducted under international( UN or O.A.U)supervision, and with adequate safeguard against punitive retaliation The federal government rejected the plebiscite proposal, obviously because it implied the recognition of Biafra and the substitution of a democratic vote for force of arms. Had the plebiscite been held, a ceasefire would have had to be declared, neutral observers would have been on scene, and the secession would have been revealed as a people's movement". The New York Review of Books, Volume 14, Number 8. April 23,1970. 6 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by Sanchez01: 12:11am On Mar 31, 2017 |
pazienza:This is shameful coming from you. Apparently you don't know more than what you hear over the radio. In 1953 when Northern Nigerians were beginning to consider secession from the Nigerian colony that would soon be a nation, Nnamdi Azikiwe gave a speech before the caucus of his political party, the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) in Yaba, Nigeria on May 12, 1953. That speech, while not disallowing secession, suggested that there would be grave consequences if the Northern region became an independent nation.https://www.nairaland.com/583562/nnamdi-azikiwes-speech-threat-north http://www.blackpast.org/1953-nnamdi-azikiwe-speech-secession 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Concerning Biafra And The Igbo Agitation For Secession by realjoker(m): 12:12am On Mar 31, 2017 |
Ikechu10:Lolz Only if you gonna take a day off listening to radio beerfraud maybe by then you can see the bigger picture. Even if you take days off radio beerfraud your emotion will still becloud your consciousness. 1 Like |
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