brocab:
Not really, the Catholic Church isn't growing-baby baptism is a matter of speech-people claiming to be Catholic and never able to understand the truth about Catholic faith.
So spirituality it isn't growing-psychically the Catholic Churches are empty, people coming and going-out of 50 people who claim to be Catholic, one or two at the most may know a little about it's practices...
While the rest of the 48 people who claim to be Catholic haven't the slightest idea-which end is up!!

henriettttta:



Shut up

brocab:
So the problem we have with many Churches across the globe, they don't focus on the people that personally know God-they only focus on the numbers of people that had been baptised into that religion!
When asked-most people will say they were baptised into a religion-but if I was to ask about their religion-2 from 50 may know something about their beliefs--while the others live their lives like they haven't the slightest idea who God is-but still they are taught by the Church they are saved going to heaven when they die.
Many Churches these days play into a worlds system-every person is classed as a number-the Catholic Church claims to be the longest Church standing, and yet most of it's members, haven't the slightest idea if God really exist..
So if we were to count the numbers of the believers in every Church-then I suppose Jesus is right when He said:
{Matthew 22:14} Many are called but few are chosen ...

brocab:
Not really, the Catholic Church isn't growing-baby baptism is a matter of speech-people claiming to be Catholic and never able to understand the truth about Catholic faith.
So spirituality it isn't growing-psychically the Catholic Churches are empty, people coming and going-out of 50 people who claim to be Catholic, one or two at the most may know a little about it's practices...
While the rest of the 48 people who claim to be Catholic haven't the slightest idea-which end is up!!

9inches:
Could you show where you got these statistics?

The Word of God tells us this will happen-so this is what it means

9inches:
Could you show where you got these statistics?

9inches:

The church is a congregation of those who believe, with the mandate to teach and convert those who are yet to believe.

brocab:
Well I hope this may help you open your eye's to common sense-it's the way the Lord said: it will happen-Churches are empty-meaning people aren't taught to know the truth--if we had 50 people who claim to be religious-2 out of 50 may believe God, while the 48 left haven't the slightest idea if God exist..
There are people hungry for the Word of God-while the rest of the world can't be bothered-and what does the Church do 'Nothing" people are losing faith, instead of proper instruction in which believers are fed with the solid meat of the Word, with emphasis on biblical doctrine and proper exposition of key biblical themes and teachings, all we seem to get in so many churches today are topical sermons, with pep talks with one or two verses thrown in along the way.
Sunday morning sermons tend to be feel-good, how-to chats, emphasising how the Christian can be successful, happy, confident, and have a good time.
{2 Timothy 3-5} Men are lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy..
A major reason why Christians today are so biblically illiterate, have little or no understanding of basic biblical doctrine, and are so easily swept off their feet into error 'is because of this basic lack of Christian instruction from the Church..
These day's the preachers promise people their ‘best life now’ and give them motivational speeches, upbeat homilies, and the like, the systematic instruction and teaching of the Word of God, its core doctrinal truths, and basic Christian doctrines are almost never heard any more in so many churches today.
Open your eye's it's common sense-it's the way the Lord said: it will happen-why the Church is empty..

The Word of God tells us this will happen-so this is what it means

brocab:
That is right' those who believe, so the baptism of babies couldn't be counted as true Catholics-just as you said: those who believe, so psychically and mentally, people are lost until the people decide to believe--so this proves the numbers of people in Churches stay empty until such time..

9inches:

It's hard to understand what you are trying to say. Can you rephrase so I can understand you?

brocab:
I will do my best hoping you may have some sort of a idea-what it actually means.
Your Catholic right? So you believe if you baptised 10 babies as Catholic's, are they still Catholic's even thru 'while they grow, they never walked with God, prayed the rosaries, never went to Church-never followed Church tradition-never bowed before Mary but lived their lives like God didn't exist?
Do Catholic's claim these are still saved-even thru they didn't obey their Catholic faith-"Or do you believe they still have a place in Heaven to be with the Lord, because their parents made that choice for them..
Or would you agree-these are lost souls-so the baptism of babies couldn't be counted as true Catholics-until they have proving their Catholic faith.
If we were to read {Matthew 22:10-14} The King asked the servants to go out and ask the kings guest to come to the wedding-but the guest made excuses-not to come-{Would you agree these were the Pharisees claiming to be some what religious refusing to come when the Lord called them}
And then the Lord told the servants to go out unto the highways, and gather together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
{So these servants went out into the highways, apostle Paul with Barnabas, and others preach to the Gentiles, after they had gathered them together, they believed, both good and bad, "known or unknown". The Gospel ministry is the means of gathering souls to Christ, and to attend his ordinances, and into his churches;}
“But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?
{Would you agree the man did not have a wedding garment' because his heart didn't believe faith existed; but he intimated himself as a man of God, only because he was taught by his parents-who were taught by the Church, by making a decision for him, to be baptised at child birth-he will still spend eternity with the Lord, no matter what life he chooses}

9inches:

A Catholic is someone who lives according to the teachings of the Catholic faith.

9inches:
A Catholic who no longer practices his living faith according to the teachings of the Catholic Church is a retired Catholic.

9inches:

A Catholic is someone who lives according to the teachings of the Catholic faith.

A teacher who no longer teaches is a retired teacher. A lawyer who no longer practices law is a retired lawyer. A Catholic who no longer practices his living faith according to the teachings of the Catholic Church is a retired Catholic.

So what must a Catholic do to be entitled to the honour of being called a Catholic? They include but not limited to the following:

- Baptism
- Continuous strive to learn about the teachings of the Church
- Through special strength of the Holy Spirit that was received during the Sacrament of Confirmation, spreading and defend the faith by word and action as true witnesses of Christ, to confess the name of Christ boldly, and never to be ashamed of the Cross.
- Going to Confession on a regularly
- Receiving the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist on a regularly
- Going to Holy Mass every Sunday and on all the days of obligation.
- Without exception, accepting all of the teachings of the Church.

Etc etc.

Any more question?

brocab:

This is what I have been saying all along-someone who claims to be religious is practicing what he learns/ Someone claiming to be religious, and not practicing religion is talking into space..

Honoring to be somebody, won't get you anywhere unless you have the evidence to prove your skills--once somebody have a relationship with God-there is never a self righteous retirement.
The Lord said: until the end, {Matthew 28:20} Teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
People just don't retire from their faith, if the disciples retired who would deliver the message, what will happen to the Vatican if the Pope's decided to retire, the Church couldn't stand alone!

9inches:
Gbam! Exactly.

It is a privilege to be Catholic. "Blessed are those who are called to the wedding feast of the lamb" (Rev 19:9).

brocab:
We are blessed to be saved, but we are not all Catholic!
{Ephesians 4:11-16} And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
We are either Jew or Gentile=so Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.
Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.
Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, CHRIST. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

9inches:
The body of Christ is the Church. One body, one church. "And I have given them the glory you gave me, so that they may be one, as we are one" (John 17:22).... "One Lord, one faith, one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5).

brocab:
{Ephesians 4:5} One Lord, One faith, One baptism.
{People coming together as a Church in one accord}
{Romans 12:1} Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God.
{The Church is People coming together as a living sacrifice}
{Romans 12:4;5} - Members of the church are to all be like members of the same human body
{The Church is made up of one mind, one heart and one soul in Christ}
{Romans 12:6,7,8} - Every Christian should use his or her gifts selflessly for the benefit of the rest of the church
{Some pastors, some evangelist, some teachers and made up together to edify the Church}

9inches:
But there are over 33,000 churches who mostly disagree with each other. So, where's the one church?

brocab:
It's simple-One must be born again before he enter into the Kingdom of God. So - 32,999 000 it add's up to one true bible believing Church..
{Ephesians 4:11-13} And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
{Ephesians 2:8} We are made up together in one accord saved by Grace through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--made up together to edify each other in the One true Church!

9inches:
So you believe there's only One true Church?

brocab:
Yes" Jesus believed His Church is the One true Church--Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. ''Jesus said: on this Rock, which is the Word of God ''I will build My Church..

Kamxin:


something is amiss here,
By the way, where is Mr Ola the Witnesser

In whatever thread he is hiding now I need him here and now.
The only withness must not escape until he witness to me also

OLAADEGBU:


His name is Jesus!

Kamxin:


Where have you been all this while?

9inches:
So are you part of that one church he established himself? Do you remember when he said "Do this in memory of me"...do you remember what that was?