Ubenedictus:
all early Christian writers.

the pope is simply bishop of Rome

a pope claimed he is the "Holy Father, which is a title and name for God
popes are said by the rcc to be infallible etc. etc. etc.


but you uben say popes are simply the bishop of rome

even you uben, know that you cannot stop lying

Ubenedictus:
I had earlier asked you to provide the verse that calls them sons of Mary.

provide them or admit such verse don't exist, then I'll be happy to provide you with their mum.

for the benefit of believers


ha ha uben, they are called Jesus brothers and sisters,
but because a verse doesn't specifically say mary is their mother
then according to you uben, mary isn't their mother

if there is anyone here at these forums nore duh than you uben i have yet to come upon them
of course there are plenty just as duh as you, bb for one, but none moreso

Jesus is joseph's Son
Jesus mother is called mary
Jesus brothers are James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas
Jesus sisters are there in nazareth also, along with joseph, mary, and Jesus brothers:

Mat 13:55  Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 
Mat 13:56  And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? 




the words "before joseph and mary came together", shows they joseph and mary did come together:

Mat 1:18  Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 




mary had other children, Jesus would not have been called her first born if she had no others,
Jesus was her first born:

Luk 2:7  And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. 




mary and Jesus brothers were outside wanting to speak with Him:

Mat 12:46  While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.


because this other mary had two sons of the same name as two of Jesus brothers(james and joses),
you uben think that this mary is the mother of Jesus brothers:

Mat 27:56  Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children. 



the other mary's son james was known as james the less,
and this mary had only one daughter(salome), Jesus had more than one sister, see matt 13:56 above

Mar 15:40  There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;





the other mary is Jesus mother's sister, the wife of cleophas:

Joh 19:25  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. 





when paul went up to jerusalem to see peter, the other apostles were not there,
just Jesus brother the apostle james:

Gal 1:19  But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

Ubenedictus:


all early Christian writers.

the pope is simply bishop of Rome

The word pope simply means "father" don't they call themselves "Holy Father" a title that belongs only to God Almighty? See what the Bible says about the papacy. ==> https://www.gotquestions.org/pope-papacy.html

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OLAADEGBU:


The word pope simply means "father" don't they call themselves "Holy Father" a title that belongs only to God Almighty? See what the Bible says about the papacy. ==> https://www.gotquestions.org/pope-papacy.html

of course holy is from the Greek hagio meaning set apart or consecrated, it is used severally in scriptures to refer to Christians.

you are the w
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one reading things into it.

johnw74:



for the benefit of believers


ha ha uben, they are called Jesus brothers and sisters,
but because a verse doesn't specifically say mary is their mother
then according to you uben, mary isn't their mother

at least here you have admitted the truth... not once in the entire Bible is anyone called a child if Mary except Jesus, not once is does anyone call Mary biological mother of anyone except Jesus.

if there is anyone here at these forums nore duh than you uben i have yet to come upon them
of course there are plenty just as duh as you, bb for one, but none moreso

sorry dear I am bigger than your small minded insults. I don't have time for ad hominem

johnw74:



for the benefit of believers


ha ha uben, they are called Jesus brothers and sisters,
but because a verse doesn't specifically say mary is their mother
then according to you uben, mary isn't their mother

if there is anyone here at these forums nore duh than you uben i have yet to come upon them
of course there are plenty just as duh as you, bb for one, but none moreso

Jesus is joseph's Son
Jesus mother is called mary
Jesus brothers are James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas
Jesus sisters are there in nazareth also, along with joseph, mary, and Jesus brothers:

Mat 13:55  Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? 
Mat 13:56  And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things? 




the words "before joseph and mary came together", shows they joseph and mary did come together:

Mat 1:18  Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 




mary had other children, Jesus would not have been called her first born if she had no others,
Jesus was her first born:

Luk 2:7  And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. 




mary and Jesus brothers were outside wanting to speak with Him:

Mat 12:46  While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.


because this other mary had two sons of the same name as two of Jesus brothers(james and joses),
you uben think that this mary is the mother of Jesus brothers:

Mat 27:56  Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children. 



the other mary's son james was known as james the less,
and this mary had only one daughter(salome), Jesus had more than one sister, see matt 13:56 above

Mar 15:40  There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;





the other mary is Jesus mother's sister, the wife of cleophas:

Joh 19:25  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. 





when paul went up to jerusalem to see peter, the other apostles were not there,
just Jesus brother the apostle james:

Gal 1:19  But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
 

do you even know the word for brother in scriptures and its range of meaning?

Ubenedictus:



at least here you have admitted the truth... not once in the entire Bible is anyone called a child if Mary except Jesus, not once is does anyone call Mary biological mother of anyone except Jesus.

and so you say that Jesus mother mary is not the mother of Jesus brothers and sisters
oh duh uben

Ubenedictus:

sorry dear I am bigger than your small minded insults. I don't have time for ad hominem

you show by the things you say, and by your blindness to God's word
that what i said is true uben, true

Ubenedictus:
do you even know the word for brother in scriptures and its range of meaning?

yes i do, and i know that concerning Jesus and James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas
God's word is referring to them being literally brothers


Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Mat 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?



and i also know uben that you know next to nothing, and don't believe God.

It's surprising someone here is trying differentiate worship and veneration. You bow before an image and you still claiming you are not worshipping it? Most of this don't even know their church is the antichrist system the Bible was talking about.

Ubenedictus:


you can keep all your cartoons,

Ubenedictus:


.... you prefer cartoons. ....

you uben call the bible illustrated, cartoons,
you think God's word is a joke.

johnw74:





you uben call the bible illustrated, cartoons,
you think God's word is a joke.

nah

I call cartoons cartoons. when I see cartoons I call them by their names cartoons

johnw74:


yes i do, and i know that concerning Jesus and James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas
God's word is referring to them being literally brothers


Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Mat 13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?



and i also know uben that you know next to nothing, and don't believe God.

that same word is also translated kinsmen

Ubenedictus:
nah

I call cartoons cartoons. when I see cartoons I call them by their names cartoons

uben, those illustrations are supported with bible verses
you called God's word in illustration: cartoons - jokes, oh lying one

Ubenedictus:
that same word is also translated kinsmen

what does it matter that many words have many diffrent meanings,
the meaning of brethren in the verses i posted are so very clear, except to a
heathen, which you uben and other rc's are:
Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

johnw74:


what does it matter that many words have many diffrent meanings,
the meaning of brethren in the verses i posted are so very clear, except to a
heathen, which you uben and other rc's are:
Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

lol, you think your meaning is correct because you adopted them from 19th century heretics, even the original 16th century Protestant think your opinion on this issue is wrong.


you are the heathen here, and also ignorant that you follow an end time heresy.

Ubenedictus:
lol, you think your meaning is correct because you adopted them from 19th century heretics, even the original 16th century Protestant think your opinion on this issue is wrong.


you are the heathen here, and also ignorant that you follow an end time heresy.

no uben, my meaning is correct because it's what the Bible says

truly uben, "brethren" in all the verses i posted referring to Jesus brothers is literal,
meaning His brothers

but of course you don't believe God

and uben, Jesus showed that "heathen" is certinally referring to you rc's:

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

johnw74:


no uben, my meaning is correct because it's what the Bible says

truly uben, "brethren" in all the verses i posted referring to Jesus brothers is literal,
meaning His brothers

but of course you don't believe God

and uben, Jesus showed that "heathen" is certinally referring to you rc's:

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

who told you so?

the literal meaning for Jews Is more than one... how did you manage to chose one and disregard others... of course your 19th century heretic teachers told you so

Ubenedictus:
who told you so?

the literal meaning for Jews Is more than one... how did you manage to chose one and disregard others... of course your 19th century heretic teachers told you so

you are very confused, that's what comes from not believing God's word,
read it again, and you still won't understand:

johnw74:


no uben, my meaning is correct because it's what the Bible says

truly uben, "brethren" in all the verses i posted referring to Jesus brothers is literal,
meaning His brothers

but of course you don't believe God

and uben, Jesus showed that "heathen" is certinally referring to you rc's:

Mat_6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

johnw74:


you are very confused, that's what comes from not believing God's word,
read it again, and you still won't understand:

You can say that again.

I have never read that either. Can he provide a reference to that blasphemy?

Ubenedictus:
D pope never said he will blow up d persons head, oga pls don't lie. read up on d issue again.

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una think say una life na better pass. criminals way day carry bible. thieves.

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Ubenedictus:
nah

I call cartoons cartoons. when I see cartoons I call them by their names cartoons

They may be cartoons, comics but do you realise that they can convey some solemn truth to you?

OLAADEGBU:


They may be cartoons, comics but do you realise that they can convey some solemn truth to you?

and some lies too

Ubenedictus:


and some lies too

You mean lies like these?

OLAADEGBU:


You mean lies like these?

Where do we go to find the real truth?

https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0047/0047_01.asp

How many will they deceive? A billion people?

https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0047/0047_01.asp

OLAADEGBU:


Where do we go to find the real truth?

Go to the Church; the Church that stands firm and holds fast to the teachings the Apostles passed on to her, whether by word of mouth or by Scripture (2 Thess 2:15).

9inches:


Go to the Church; the Church that stands firm and holds fast to the teachings the Apostles passed on to her, whether by word of mouth or by Scripture (2 Thess 2:15).

You lied! The Holy Bible has all the answers.

OLAADEGBU:


You lied! The Holy Bible has all the answers.

Can you point out the lie in the sentence or from the verse I mentioned?