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Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Nobody: 9:50pm On Apr 04, 2017 |
FriendNG: Then he is the one.....borno ba? |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 10:39pm On Apr 04, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: Yes Borno. He dressed well and look innocent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y33rL_D_6pw |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by carinmom(f): 4:14am On Apr 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: Never even heard of the name. FriendNG: You've said my mind. 1 Like |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Empiree: 4:51pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Abdulbsd:I really did not want to say anything yesterday upon reading translation of your post. I want to believe the translation presented by the sister does represent your op precisely. Everyone in Islam already embraced one 'Tariqa', tariqa -ul-Islamiyyah if I should say. Within Islam, Allah himself encouraged different groups of Muslims to propagate Islam with whatever means they have. (Sura imran 104). There may be differences and that's normal. Quran, in the same Sura also honors religious learned men to teach people. So you are saying large number of people and those great ulama were misguided and yet Islam stays firmly in Africa till today. You could have been mushrik by now if not for them. Neither of the Shuyuk you mentioned is responsible for those boys you see today doing nonsense. Besides, you appeared to be a young dude. It doesn't fit your mouth to declare them misguided just bcus you listen to some crazy people like Jabata. Jabata himself said what you said. There are those who follow Saudi teachings. That's another tariqa on its own. You have to follow someone one way or the other. You just dont flow blindly. It is very important for you to either get used to the way these terminologies are used or be quite. Some of them have reason for holding on to pictures of their shuyuk. I don't buy that but I see nothing wrong with it either. For instance, I heard from a non-Nigerian tariqa the reason for carrying banners of their shuyuk. He said: "People criticize us for having pictures of our beloved shuyuk around all the time. They think we worship them. They are ignorant. We prefer to look at them all day long than seeing pictures of naked women which is everywhere. That's po!n." And some of you who critisize them actually watch po!n, and stare at naked women but yet, you come online to act like some religious nutjob. It is usually young unlearned dudes amongst the tariqa who do some silly things. These men you mentioned have contributed their quota. How about you?. Read below. I forwarded your comments to fellow northern man. Kindly read what he says. I hope someone interprets for you.
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Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Empiree: 4:55pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
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Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Empiree: 4:58pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
So @abdulbsd, you can see clearly they do not agree with nonsense people amongst them. Now can you refute allegation he made against Izala chief?. Is that true?. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Demmzy15(m): 6:10pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
FriendNG:That's how he just misguided many, many of them probably were later Boko-are-rams. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 6:35pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Demmzy15: Exactly. If you understand Hausa you will have enjoyed it, he sound convincing. He was smiling calling Allah as if he is a good shiek. Wolf in goat skin. 1 Like |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 6:54pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
@Empiree So Abdullahi Balalau was dancing at Obasanjo Birthday? Show us his dancing pics or video. Let me tell you what takes them there: They went to launch a mosque build by Obasanjo and they even wish he could revert to Islam. Now It will not be forgiving if you could not show him dancing and cutting Birthday cake with Obasanjo. You will claim it was written by your friend. Forward it to him let him give you the dancing, cake cutting pics. The second picture shows Shiek Abdullahi Balalau Receiving gift from Buhari. What they said is "Wa'annal masajida lillahi fala tada'u ma'allahi ahada" Now look the video below you will see the shirk they are talking about your sufis. It can be seen in the video where a person remove his cap and prostrate to Dahiru Bauchi. He did not stop the man and thus translate to affirming the prostration. It is also unforgiven offence if you're unable to provide the bending pic of Abdullahi Balalau (Bowing, kneeling or prostrating) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUjE2vtVyQ
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Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Nobody: 6:57pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
I noticed one thing.... Those Hausa sufis are better liars than their Yoruba colleagues here.... |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 7:27pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: I concur. Many dramers done happen oh even 4 southwest with Jibwis (Izala) and Hausa Sufis in Ibadan. There is one time wey dem beat Jibwis security, fire a bullet that nearly shoot Sheik Gero Argungun. They also edit a porn video put Kabiru Gonbe head. One of my sufi friend back then have it. But I told him I don't want to see their lies. Another time. Sheik Kabiru Gombe was absent in the country, they release posters of him as dog, frog. That Allah turn him 2 those Animals bcux he speak against a Sufi musician. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Empiree: 7:35pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
FriendNG:Obasanjo is the only thing I know here. I have no idea what's going on there. I simply present allegation made by op just like he made allegations against them. Let me tell you what takes them there: They went to launch a mosque build by Obasanjo and they even wish he could revert to Islam.Good Now It will not be forgiving if you could not show him dancing and cutting Birthday cake with Obasanjo.Even if I was there personally to witness him dancing and all that, do you think I have problems with that? . It is his life. Live it. I can see you are sweating to defend him which is not bad idea You will claim it was written by your friend. Forward it to him let him give you the dancing, cake cutting pics.look, this is a very trivia matter. Doesn't bother me one bit. So don't expect me going about asking for proof. Is it haram to dance?. The second picture shows Shiek Abdullahi Balalau Receiving gift from Buhari. What they said is "Wa'annal masajida lillahi fala tada'u ma'allahi ahada"haha...I may forward this to him to confirm with you. So again, you made attempt to defend him which is good. My point, they have the right to defend theirs and you have no right to condemn them even if you are not satisfied. Kajiko? 1 Like |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 7:44pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Empiree: I am not hia to tell you dance is good or bad. Na today we start 2 argue wit u? Am here to expose the Sufi liars. You wisely skip the prostration to your Sufi Shiek I am here to condemn shirk and dia is nothing you can do to stop me. You done hear?
What they (Jibwis) said about bending is in the video you wisely skip. After forwarding it to your fellow Sufi liar, u can help him with the video wia dey condemn bending (prostration) to anyone beside Allah and call it shirk. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Demmzy15(m): 8:17pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
FriendNG:¬Even see the fresh guy near him with a beautiful recitation. That guy no try at all, I'm pretty the mad man Shekau must be among the congregation! |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Empiree: 8:23pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
FriendNG:I imagine this is same video you posted before elsewhere?. I didn't get to watch it then. Now, in Islam your are asked to give excuses for people. See the kind of prostration he made, in yorubaland people would generally consider that greetings. If you want me to consider what he did to mean shirk, I'm sorry i can't. If he had done that to the grave I would have no objection but to outrighly condemn him. However I agree that the man wearing turban should have avoided it. That's their problems not anyone else. You however took it upon yourself that all sufis do this. See how silly that is?. Even Arabs go all the way down like the man in the video to kiss their mothers feet. So what's the noise about? When sheikh Uthaimeen(ra) was asked about it he said the intention was to kiss the feet not worship. This refutes your claims about kneeling, bowing as shirk if the man was only greeting which is what I believe it is. It is also unforgiven offence if you're unable to provide the bending pic of Abdullahi Balalau (Bowing,it is also unforgivable offense to accuse other's sheik of shirk where there is none as claimed by your brother Rabiu in the other thread. He hasn't make tawba yet. Besides, I don't know who Abdullahi Balalau is. So don't crucify me. You rage now bcus the brother made allegation against Balalau simply bcus he's beloved to you. I can't really tell the difference btw you guys and jabata. You see how the man bow slightly before Buhari, that's how Sheikh Akindele bowed before elders and jabata called him mushirk. He probably went down more than that actually. Abeg, y'all need to take anti-takfir pills for real. 1 Like |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 8:27pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Demmzy15: According to Amina (journalist aka mama Boko Haram) she has once convince Yusuf to stop this ideology but he is afraid 2 confront his followers (like shekau won't back down). According to reports Sheik Ja'afar and the likes of Albany Zaria sit down with him and convince him about his ideology but he is afraid to confront his followers. He started what he could not finished. 1 Like |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Demmzy15(m): 8:32pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
FriendNG:His young son is also in the forefront, not as extreme as Shekau but another madman! |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 8:41pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Empiree: Ok but you will not condemn this one because it is living human and not the dead in the grave. Meaning to you it is permissible. Do you think am interested to what Yoruba do. As a Muslim from Yoruba tribe will you do that to your elder despite it is not good?
Kissing foot is not the same as prostrating to someone. And not the same as bowing to someone. Allah mention in the holy Quran. "Wa'annal masajida lillahi fala tada'u ma'allahi ahada"
I also don't know Abdullahi Balalau until 2011 when he become the Oga of Jibwis Nigeria and Africa. I like him because he teach nothing but the sunnah. I don't know Jabata, neither heard what he said nor see the pic. So am not in the position to speak on that. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 8:45pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Demmzy15: Yes Shekau took care of him but now they done separate into two faction. I heard he was arrested. His name is "Barnawi" |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Demmzy15(m): 8:56pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
FriendNG:Khalid or so, I mistakenly watched one his videos one time. One brother shared it on our school group chat, an unfortunate policeman was kneeling with his hands tied. The Barnawi guy now told one masked dog to behead him, after that he began to give lectures! |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Empiree: 9:07pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
FriendNG:I didn't. I chose to reply in parts. I am here to condemn shirk and dia is nothing you can do to stop me. You done hear?Good. Since your are here to condemn their 'shirk' of bowing and prostrating,are you ready to declare your brothers bowing and prostrating in the pictures?. If you refuse to call this shirk, then your lies and deception is way too suphisticated than 9/11 What they (Jibwis) said about bending is in the video you wisely skip.I don't understand their language. I go by what I see. So are you ready to make takfir of those in these pictures of mine as well? Since you said bowing and prostrating to any other than Allah is shirk what is this one called?
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Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Nobody: 9:28pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Anywhere u see this Sufi NL guy. He brings with him confusion everywhere. BTW, no difference btw Yoruba or Hausa Sufi. Dalal is Dalal. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 9:40pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
Demmzy15: Shoo. Graphic can't watch that. Iman is absent in the heart. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 9:41pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
RABIUSHILE04: I concur. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Ssthorm(f): 10:03pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: Gaskiya,Dont know him. Neva heard sef |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Nobody: 12:36am On Apr 06, 2017 |
Ssthorm: Toor..... Ba damuwa.....*hope I said that right* |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Nobody: 12:40am On Apr 06, 2017 |
Demmzy15: Change that donkey to dog..... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Nobody: 8:01am On Apr 06, 2017 |
This is because calling them donkeys is an insult to donkeys...... Calling them dogs is better, this is what the prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) called them... |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Ssthorm(f): 2:49pm On Apr 06, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: Ya..lol. u sure did. |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Nafizzey(m): 9:46pm On Apr 06, 2017 |
Ssthorm: |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by Fundamentalist: 10:39pm On Apr 10, 2017 |
FriendNG: I could remember him saying so on many occasions cursing the followers of the salaf. Sufis in the north are diehard sufis not where I presently stay . Mai gudumas end is not good to hear |
Re: Kato Tijjani Da Kato Inyass ! by FriendNG: 10:47pm On Apr 10, 2017 |
Fundamentalist: May Allah give us good end. |
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