As if things are not bad enough for Haitians following this catastrophe we now have the appointment of the anti christ George Bush Jnr to coordinate the Haiti relief operation by Obama -  here is an interesting article written by an american journalist brenda norrell :


DISASTER: Obama appoints George Bush for Haiti relief

Posted by Brenda Norrell - January 15, 2010 at 7:49 am

Obama's selection of George Bush for Haiti relief ties with Obama's Nobel Peace Prize as the most horrendous error. Profiteering from misery is what Bush does best.

By Brenda Norrell

President Obama selected war criminal and corporate thief George W. Bush to head up US relief efforts to Haiti, along with Bill Clinton.

No, this is not a joke or satire. It is not a Saturday Night Live spoof. It is a fact.

Now, the Clinton and Bush duo is pleading with Americans to donate to Haiti relief by way of them.

What percentage of donated money and goods will ever reach those in need if Bush and his circle of thieves are involved?

Remember Hurricane Katrina? Remember the people on rooftops, waving for rescue, day after day on the television news? Remember when day after day no one came to their aid? Remember Katrina. Remember who sent Blackwater assassins to New Orleans during Katrina relief? Remember the toxic FEMA trailer houses for the poor? Remember the good ole boys that said shooting blacks after Katrina was like "pheasant hunting in South Dakota" (as documented in film)?

This is George Bush's legacy during Katrina relief.

Remember the Bush/Cheney years, with torture in violation of the Geneva Conventions, with kidnappings and secret prisons and the corporate warmongering and genocide that caused the US to become one of the most hated nations in the world?

Why bring back Bush?

For anyone who doubted who Obama is, and what he is up to, the choice of Bush should make it clear.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/brenda-norrell/2010/01/disaster-obama-appoints-george-bush-haiti-relief

And so what? Is George Bush not a human being?

People should concentrate on getting the aid to haitians rather than thoughtlessly bickering about who's in charge or not.

Tudór:

And so what? Is George Bush not a human being?

People should concentrate on getting the aid to haitians rather than thoughtlessly bickering about who's in charge or not.

you are either too dumb or too ignorant to understand the implications of having someone like bush at the helm of this operation - or could it be amnesia that you are suffering from? have you forgotten what happened to thousands of blacks stranded in new orleans during Katrina?

@cap28,

What is wrong with Bush? I am more concerned about getting Bill Clinton involved in the relief effort than I am of Bush. Is it not this same Clinton who said Obama's (a black man) place is to serve White people like him coffee? Why ask such a person to provide relief to mainly Black people?

Tayo-D:

@cap28,

What is wrong with Bush? I am more concerned about getting Bill Clinton involved in the relief effort than I am of Bush. Is it not this same Clinton who said Obama's (a black man) place is to serve White people like him coffee? Why ask such a person to provide relief to mainly Black people?

Bush and  Clinton are on the same side and are both serving the same master - the Rockefellers -  the real rulers of america and anyway why are you suprised about Clinton's outburst, his views are the views of the majority of white people towards blacks so why would Clinton be any different?

the question you should be asking is why are two people who are responsible for bringing about the economic demise of this country now interested in coordinating a "relief effort".

you probably dont know this but Bush and his cronies masterminded a coup d etat in 2004 in which Aristide (a democratically elected former priest and man of the people) was kidnapped by US marines from the presidential palace and deported to  Congo

he then installed a puppet govt which opened up the country to "foreign investment" (rape and pillage) of Haiti's labour.

the aim was to outsource jobs (now possible under GATT) formerly carried out in the US to countries where labour is cheap in order to maximise profits for multinational businesses.

many if not most of these sweat shops are owned by friends and business associates of both Bush and Clinton - Aristide was standing in their way by introducing reforms which would have eaten into their profit margins so of course he had to go.

do not be taken in by these people's lies.

Former Presidents are always called upon for humanitarian causes cos they appeal to a wide range of people.

George Bush was good to Africa. Thats a fact.

Ibime:

Former Presidents are always called upon for humanitarian causes cos they appeal to a wide range of people.

George Bush was good to Africa. Thats a fact.

if you have chosen to live in a permanent state of self delusion thats your prerogative, i notice you said george bush was good to africa without mentioning one good deed that he did.

oh let me guess could it be the imminent arrival of AFRICOM on the continent


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzdF4hA4XfY.

I laugh

cap28:

if you have chosen to live in a permanent state of self delusion thats your prerogative, i notice you said george bush was good to africa without mentioning one good deed that he did.

oh let me guess could it be the imminent arrival of AFRICOM on the continent


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzdF4hA4XfY.

I laugh

My friend watch your tone. . . . imagine someone like yourself asking me what George Bush did for Africa. . . GB has the best record of any US president when it comes to humanitarian efforts in Africa. . . . Bill Clintons inclusion in the Haiti relief team is more contentious than that of George Dubya IMO


George Bush:

Pumped $18bn into fighting HIV/Aids, much of it in Africa
Backed cancelling $34bn worth of debt for 27 African states
Tripled US aid to Africa
Launched initiative that has halved Malaria in 15 African countries
Led condemnation of Sudan's record in Darfur as genocide




Feel free to digest any of the links below:




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2262217/Analysis-How-George-W-Bush-became-an-African-hero.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7831460.stm

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL17797120080217

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/15/georgebush.usa

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/popular-in-africa-bush-has-given-more-aid-than-any-other-us-president-783387.html

Who ever wrote that piece of rubbish, needs to have their head examined. What is wrong with some folk, first Pat Robertson, then Danny Glover, now this.

What percentage of donated money and goods will ever reach those in need if Bush and his circle of thieves are involved

Remember the Bush/Cheney years, with torture in violation of the Geneva Conventions, with kidnappings and secret prisons and the corporate warmongering and genocide that caused the US to become one of the most hated nations in the world?

Talk about hysterics. So Bush will steal the aid and relief money abi. I thought he would've made enough money from all the oil he stole from Iraq, according to nuts like these. And Bush perpetuated genocide? Men some people need to think with their heads. Bush Derangement Syndrome (B.D.S) is still alive, well and thriving.
I sincerely hope Bush and Clinton's efforts bear fruit for the Haitian people, they need the help.

@topic,

To think I agree with Ibime 100% in this matter. This is turning out to be a good year o.

Ibime:


My friend watch your tone. . . . imagine someone like yourself asking me what George Bush did for Africa. . . GB has the best record of any US president when it comes to humanitarian efforts in Africa. . . . Bill Clintons inclusion in the Haiti relief team is more contentious than that of George Dubya IMO


George Bush:

Pumped $18bn into fighting HIV/Aids, much of it in Africa
Backed cancelling $34bn worth of debt for 27 African states
Tripled US aid to Africa
Launched initiative that has halved Malaria in 15 African countries
Led condemnation of Sudan's record in Darfur as genocide




Feel free to digest any of the links below:




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2262217/Analysis-How-George-W-Bush-became-an-African-hero.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7831460.stm

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL17797120080217

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/15/georgebush.usa

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/popular-in-africa-bush-has-given-more-aid-than-any-other-us-president-783387.html 

now i see why you are so confused because your sources of information are western govt propaganda mouthpieces like the telegraph, the guardian and the independent, so you still havent worked out that these newspapers are in the pocket of these corrupt western govts - boy you are really naive.

okay you say george bush pumped billions into combating HIV aids how interesting, are you aware that HIV aids is an artifically manufactured bio warfare weapon deliberately introduced into african countries by way of contaminated polio vaccines in order to depopulate the african continent in accordance with US foreign policy of population reduction in the "third world" - see Henry Kissinger's National Security State Memorandum 200 of 1974 - now a declassified document. 

he cancelled $34billion worth of debt - hmm what conditions were attached to this - i wonder whether any of these negotiations involved those african nations agreeing to take on more unwanted loans from the IMF and world bank

ohh but i only had to look at your subsequent sentence: "Tripled US aid to Africa" and it answered my question hahaha 

you obviously are completey unaware of the role that the US has really been playing in Sudan as opposed to the fake media managed propaganda spear headed by the hollywood actor george clooney. 

the US fomented a war in Sudan between the north and the south over - wait for it - control of the oil fields in the south.  the rampaging militas who have been responsible for killing, maiming and brutalising people are all US funded and trained militias.

the sudanese govt unlike the nigerian govts have refused to allow themselves to be controlled and used by foreign powers instead they have chosen to sell their oil and uranium to china - big mistake - america is having none of that and therefore they have been on  a relentless  mission to completely destablise the entire country, fomenting uprisings, ethnic clashes and rebellions all over the country.  all done in collaboration with their complicit media who feed you the garbage that you have swallowed without question.

here is an excerpt from an article written by journalist and anti war activist sara flounders:

U.S. interest in Sudan

 

Sudan is the largest country in Africa in area. It is strategically located on the Red Sea, immediately south of Egypt, and borders on seven other African countries. It is about the size of Western Europe but has a population of only 35 million people.

 

Darfur is the western region of Sudan. It is the size of France, with a population of just 6 million.

 

Newly discovered resources have made Sudan of great interest to U.S. corporations. It is believed to have oil reserves rivaling those of Saudi Arabia. It has large deposits of natural gas. In addition, it has one of the three largest deposits of high-purity uranium in the world, along with the fourth-largest deposits of copper.

 

Unlike Saudi Arabia, however, the Sudanese government has retained its independence of Washington. Unable to control Sudan's oil policy, the U.S. imperialist government has made every effort to stop its development of this valuable resource. China, on the other hand, has worked with Sudan in providing the technology for exploration, drilling, pumping and the building of a pipeline and buys much of Sudan's oil.

U.S. policy revolves around shutting down the export of oil through sanctions and inflaming national and regional antagonisms. For over two decades U.S. imperialism supported a separatist movement in the south of Sudan, where oil was originally found. This long civil war drained the central government's resources. When a peace agreement was finally negotiated, U.S. attention immediately switched to Darfur in western Sudan.

 

Recently, a similar agreement between the Sudanese government and rebel groups in Darfur was rejected by one of the groups, so the fighting continues. The U.S. poses as a neutral mediator and keeps pressing Khartoum for more concessions but "through its closest African allies helped train the SLA and JEM Darfuri rebels that initiated Khartoum's violent reaction." (www.afrol.com)

 

Sudan has one of the most ethnically diverse populations in the world. Over 400 ethnic groups have their own languages or dialects. Arabic is the one common language. Greater Khartoum, the largest city in the country, has a population of about 6 million. Some 85 percent of the Sudanese population is involved in subsistence agriculture or raising livestock.

 

The U.S. corporate media is unanimous in simplistically describing the crisis in Darfur as atrocities committed by the Jan jawid militias, supported by the central government in Khartoum. This is described as an "Arab" assault on "African" people.

 

This is a total distortion of reality. As the Black Commentator, Oct. 27, 2004, points out: "All parties involved in the Darfur conflict-whether they are referred to as ‘Arab' or as ‘African,' are equally indigenous and equally Black. All are Muslim and all are local." The whole population of Darfur speaks Arabic, along with many local dialects. All are Sunni Muslim.

 

Drought, famine and sanctions

The crisis in Darfur is rooted in intertribal fighting. A desperate struggle has developed over increasingly scarce water and grazing rights in a vast area of Northern Africa that has been hit hard by years of drought and growing famine.

 

Darfur has over 35 tribes and ethnic groups. About half the people are small subsistence farmers, the other half nomadic herders. For hundreds of years the nomadic population grazed their herds of cattle and camels over hundreds of miles of grassy lowlands. Farmers and herders shared wells. For over 5,000 years, this fertile land sustained civilizations in both western Dar fur and to the east, all along the Nile River.

 

Now, due to the drought and the encroaching great Sahara Desert, there isn't enough grazing land or enough farmland in what could be the breadbasket of Africa. Irrigation and development of Sudan's rich resources could solve many of these problems. U.S. sanctions and military intervention will solve none of them.

 

Many people, especially children, have died in Sudan of totally preventable and treatable diseases because of a U.S. cruise missile attack, ordered by President Bill Clinton on Aug. 20, 1998, on the El Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum. This plant, which had produced cheap medications for treating malaria and tuberculosis, provided 60 percent of the available medicine in Sudan.

 

The U.S. claimed Sudan was operating a VX poison gas facility there. It produced no evidence to back up the charge. This simple medical facility, totally destroyed by the 19 missiles, was not rebuilt nor did Sudan receive a penny of compensation.

 

UN/NATO role in Sudan

 

Presently 7,000 African Union troops are in Darfur. Their logistical and technical back-up is provided by U.S. and NATO forces. In addition, thousands of UN personnel are overseeing refugee camps for hundreds of thousands dislocated by the drought, famine and war. All of these outside forces do more than hand out needed food. They are a source of instability. As capitalist would-be conquerors have done for hundreds of years, they consciously play one group off against another.

 

U.S. imperialism is heavily involved in the entire region. Chad, which is directly west of Darfur, last year participated in a U.S.-organized international military exer cise that, according to the U.S. Defense Depart ment, was the largest in Africa since World War II. Chad is a former French colony, and both French and U.S. forces are heavily involved in funding, training and equipping the army of its military ruler, Idriss Deby, who has supported rebel groups in Darfur.

 

For more than half a century, Britain ruled Sudan, encountering widespread resis tance. British colonial policy was rooted in divide-and-conquer tactics and in keeping its colonies underdeveloped and isolated in order to plunder their resources.

 

U.S. imperialism, which has replaced the European colonial powers in many parts of the world, in recent years has been sabotaging the economic independence of countries trying to emerge from colonial underdevelopment. Its main economic weapons have been sanctions combined with "structural adjustment" demands made by the International Monetary Fund, which it controls. In return for loans, the target governments must cut their budgets for development of infrastructure.

 

How can demands from organizations in the West for sanctions, leading to further underdevelopment and isolation, solve any of these problems?

 

Washington has often used its tremendous power in the UN Security Council to get resolutions endorsing its plans to send U.S. troops into other countries. None were on humanitarian missions.

 

U.S. troops carrying the UN flag invaded Korea in 1950 in a war that resulted in more than 4 million deaths. Still flying that flag, they have occupied and divided the Korean peninsula for over 50 years.

 

At the urging of the U.S., UN troops in 1961 were deployed to the Congo, where they played a role in the assassination of Patrice Lumumba, the country's first prime minister.

 

The U.S. was able to get a UN mandate in 1991 for its massive bombing of the entire Iraqi civilian infrastructure, including water purification plants, irrigation and food processing plants-and for the 13 years of starvation sanctions that resulted in the deaths of over 1.5 million Iraqis.

 

UN troops in Yugoslavia and in Haiti have been a cover for U.S. and European intervention and occupation-not peace or reconciliation.

 

The U.S. and European imperialist powers are responsible for the genocidal slave trade that decimated Africa, the genocide of the Indigenous population of the Americas, the colonial wars and occupations that looted three-quarters of the globe. It was German imperialism that was responsible for the genocide of Jewish people. To call for military intervention by these same powers as the answer to conflicts among the people of Darfur is to ignore 500 years of history.

 

(Sara Flounders went to Sudan just after the bombing of the El Shifa pharmaceutical plant in 1998 with John Parker as part of an International Action Center fact-finding delegation led by Ramsey Clark.)

 
www.DailyMuslims.com
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2006/06/06/4743.shtml

@ Cap28,


Did the spambot just swallow the gibberish you just posted? Even the spambot recognises the deranged ranting of a malleable juvenile mind. 

You will soon say that the spambot is part of an anti-African conspiracy. 

Tayo-D:

@topic,

To think I agree with Ibime 100% in this matter. This is turning out to be a good year o.

Roflmao!!!

cap28:

you are either too dumb or too ignorant to understand the implications of having someone like bush at the helm of this operation - or could it be amnesia that you are suffering from?  have you forgotten what happened to thousands of blacks stranded in new orleans during Katrina?

You're indeed daft no doubt.

Again I ask, HOW does George bush's appointment or not AFFECT THE DELIVERY OF AID TO HAITI?

Is it Bush that is gonna approve the sums to be donated in aid? Does the ultimate decision as to where the aid goes lie with bush?

The EX presidents were merely called upon to be figureheads and nothing more!

Stop ranting aimlessly please.

@Ibime

now i see why you are so confused because your sources of information are western govt propaganda mouthpieces like the telegraph, the guardian and the independent, so you still havent worked out that these newspapers are in the pocket of these corrupt western govts - boy you are really naive.

okay you say george bush pumped billions into combating HIV aids how interesting, are you aware that HIV aids is an artifically manufactured bio warfare weapon deliberately introduced into african countries by way of contaminated polio vaccines in order to depopulate the african continent in accordance with US foreign policy of population reduction in the "third world" - see Henry Kissinger's National Security State Memorandum 200 of 1974 - now a declassified document.

he cancelled $34billion worth of debt - hmm what conditions were attached to this - i wonder whether any of these negotiations involved those african nations agreeing to take on more unwanted loans from the IMF and world bank

ohh but i only had to look at your subsequent sentence: "Tripled US aid to Africa" and it answered my question hahaha

you obviously are completey unaware of the role that the US has really been playing in Sudan as opposed to the fake media managed propaganda spear headed by the hollywood actor george clooney.

the US fomented a war in Sudan between the north and the south over - wait for it - control of the oil fields in the south. the rampaging militas who have been responsible for killing, maiming and brutalising people are all US funded and trained militias.

the sudanese govt unlike the nigerian govts have refused to allow themselves to be controlled and used by foreign powers instead they have chosen to sell their oil and uranium to china - big mistake - america is having none of that and therefore they have been on a relentless mission to completely destablise the entire country, fomenting uprisings, ethnic clashes and rebellions all over the country. all done in collaboration with their complicit media who feed you the garbage that you have swallowed without question.

@ Cap28,

Take Tudors advice:

Tudór:

Stop ranting aimlessly please.

Tudór:

You're indeed daft no doubt.

Again I ask, HOW does George bush's appointment or not AFFECT THE DELIVERY OF AID TO HAITI?

Is it Bush that is gonna approve the sums to be donated in aid? Does the ultimate decision as to where the aid goes lie with bush?

The EX presidents were merely called upon to be figureheads and nothing more!

Stop ranting aimlessly please.

You sound as if you're not used to engaging in intelligent debate- how can you ask such a silly question after the Katrina fiasco that Bush was supposed to have been in charge of.

Would you feel confident of receiving adequate help if you were a Haitian caught up in this catastrophe if you knew that George Bush had been put in charge of it?

why is this so difficult for you to understand - normal people with functioning brains immediately understand how farcical it is to have someone like him involved in this releif effort but with you one has to engage in unecessary debate about something which is glaringly obvious.

all i can say is  i cant help you if you are still unaware of the role that Bush played in the delivery of relief to victims of the Katrina catastrophe.

oh and Tudor if i were you id take down that pic on your profile as that is definitely NOT my idea of a true african beauty

cap28:

You sound as if you're not used to engaging in intelligent debate- how can you ask such a silly question after the Katrina fiasco that Bush was supposed to have been in charge of.

Would you feel confident of receiving adequate help if you were a Haitian caught up in this catastrophe if you knew that George Bush had been put in charge of it?

why is this so difficult for you to understand - normal people with functioning brains immediately understand how farcical it is to have someone like him involved in this releif effort but with you one has to engage in unecessary debate about something which is glaringly obvious.

all i can say is  i cant help you if you are still unaware of the role that Bush played in the delivery of relief to victims of the Katrina catastrophe.

Ha ha ha. . .YOU ARE A FOOLISH MAN. You're so blinded by your hate that you refuse to engage your brains.

Bush was president and OVERALL commander during katrina, is he president now?

This is the third time am asking you this, HOW EXACTLY IS Bush's appointment going to AFFECT THE DELIVERY OF AID?

Does it lie with bush to APPROVE government relief aid and supplies for haiti?

Do you seriously think if Bush were to make any decision it wouldn't be first put through to obama for approval?

Infact since we put it to you that bush and clinton are just figurheads to give attention to the relief efforts which you deny, can you please tell us what EXACTLY are the roles of bush and clinton and what they have the power to do and not do?

Answer these questions and stop raving like a mad man about dafur.

cap28:

oh and Tudor if i were you id take down that pic on your profile as that is definitely NOT my idea of a true african beauty

What a relief. . . .fortunately the ideas of a loon -who says things like "Bush and clinton are serving the same master- the Rockefellers, the real rulers of America. . ."- are not really taken seriously.

cap28:

oh and Tudor if i were you id take down that pic on your profile as that is definitely NOT my idea of a true african beauty

What a relief. . . .fortunately the ideas of a loon -who says things like "Bush and clinton are serving the same master- the Rockefellers, the real rulers of America. . ."- are not really taken seriously.

the question you should be asking is why are two people who are responsible for bringing about the economic demise of this country now interested in coordinating a "relief effort".

to make themselves feel good about themselves,to gain whatever political or moral points to be gained and so on
they are no better than hollywood types like madonna,who go on adoption sprees anytime their careers need a boost

morning Tudor - how are you today, i see you are still harping on about the George Bush situation - okay i will answer your question with an excerpt from a mainstream newspaper describing Bush's unbeleivable incompetence during that catastrophe:

Hurricane Katrina Left a Mark on George W. Bush’s Presidency
By Kenneth T. Walsh
Posted December 11, 2008

Botching Katrina.

It was a disaster at every level. But in political terms, the government's failure to respond effectively to Hurricane Katrina in the late summer of 2005 was Bush's biggest setback at home. "Katrina showed he is incompetent," says Howard Dean, outgoing chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "Before Katrina, everyone, including America's friends and enemies, believed if something awful happened in the world, you could call in the Americans and they'd fix it." The government response to the hurricane, which devastated New Orleans and much of the Gulf Coast, ruined that reputation, Dean argues.

Bush seemed slow off the mark as millions of people suffered, and he created a lasting image of isolation when the White House released photos of him, a solitary figure in his cushy seat, looking out a window on Marine One at the hurricane devastation far below. He also made a huge mistake when he praised Michael Brown, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, with a now infamous attaboy—"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job"—even though the agency was botching the disaster response, adding to the impression that Bush was out of touch.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/12/11/hurricane-katrina-left-a-mark-on-george-w-bushs-presidency.html

George Bush:

Pumped $18bn into fighting HIV/Aids, much of it in Africa
Backed cancelling $34bn worth of debt for 27 African states
Tripled US aid to Africa
Launched initiative that has halved Malaria in 15 African countries
Led condemnation of Sudan's record in Darfur as genocide

why are africans so gullible? trhe whole aids industry is a farce
from the NGOs that over-estimate aids cases in africa,
to bono,to whatever govt trying to intervene to "help"
have u asked yourself who benefits from the so-called $18bln bush pumped into africa
which companies(all american of course),make the anti retro-viral drugs?

when america gives u aid 90% of it or more usually flows back into the U.S
whether it is military aid,where you have to buy equipment from U.S companies
or civilian aid where u have to use U.S human resource or whateva
so dont be fooled

paddy_lo:

why are africans so gullible? trhe whole aids industry is a farce
from the NGOs that over-estimate aids cases in africa,
to bono,to whatever govt trying to intervene to "help"
have u asked yourself who benefits from the so-called $18bln bush pumped into africa
which companies(all american of course),make the anti retro-viral drugs?

when america gives u aid 90% of it or more usually flows back into the U.S
whether it is military aid,where you have to buy equipment from U.S companies
or civilian aid where u have to use U.S human resource or whateva
so dont be fooled

Whether the money flows back to Yankee is not my concern. . . . did more Africans get anti-retroviral treatment or not under George Bush?

Or can you name any African company that George Bush could have ordered the drugs from? 

I can guess your next argument already. . . . why do they allow drugs companies to hold patents on vital drugs instead of making it open for any country to replicate the drugs?

At which point I will ask you "how do you incentivise R& without copyright protection?"

Make una no dey yarn nonsense for here abeg.

Whether the money flows back to Yankee is not my concern. . . . did more African get anti-retroviral treatment or not under George Bush?

Or do you want George Bush to order that the drugs be supplied by a Chinese pharmaceutical company just to prove to you that he is not doing it just to boost the Yankee pharmaceutical industry?

Or does any African company produce the drugs for George Bush to order the drugs from them?

I can guess your next argument already. . . . why do they allow drugs companies to hold patents on vital drugs instead of making it open for any country to replicate the drugs?

At which point I will ask you "how do you incentivise R& without copyright protection?"

Make una no dey yarn nonsense for here abeg.

protect the west all u like. . thats your own cup of tea. . .
but dont come selling us a bogus altruistic reason for them doing what they do. . .
africans will survive with or without no damn retro-viral drug
however lots of biotech companies in the west will fail without the business
i think u know who is really being helped here

paddy_lo:

africans will survive with or without no damn retro-viral drug
however lots of biotech companies in the west will fail without the business
i think u know who is really being helped here

They should feel free to reject the offer of help then. . . . or better yet, feel free to produce the drugs if they can.

You are starting to sound as incoherent as Cap28.




Back to the topic:

George Bush had the best record of any American President in Africa. Feel free to discuss by comparing records with any US President. . . .

Going by some of the comments on here, I guess we should start to define the best American President as the one who offered the least aid to Africa.

They should feel free to reject the offer of help then. . . . or better yet, feel free to produce the drugs if they can.

You are starting to sound as incoherent as Cap28.

Back to the topic:

George Bush had the best record of any American President in Africa. Feel free to discuss by comparing records with any US President. . . .

Going by some of the comments on here, I guess we should start to define the best American President as the one who offered the least aid to Africa.

thats the best u can come up with? compare me to another person
u keep harping on this fake help. .like d brainwashed african u are or a broken record
if bush is so-keen on helping,why didnt he help american citizens to cheaper drugs from canada?
why did he block it. . his own ppl,
but u will tout the mindless quote above. .that means absolutely nothing
best record my foot . .more like best record for windfall profits for drug companies,and defense contractors?

no the best american president would be one who will treat the whole continent with a straight face and each country in it with mutual respect
not one that hobnobs with dictators like mubarak in egypt,and meles zenawi of ethiopia
and even sells them arms
while hypocritically talking about elections in the rest of africa
its a wonder ppl like u still fall for the B.S

So let me get this straight, because GB is perceived by many as ineffective as a president, that automatically means he cannot be good at any other thing? I guess by your logic, since Nigeria is rubbish at almost everything, we can never be good at anything? Nah wah o.

cap28:

morning Tudor - how are you today, i see you are still harping on about the George Bush situation

And here I was thinking the topic is about Bush and his appointment. . . .have you changed the OP and I missed it? -

okay i will answer your question with an excerpt from a mainstream newspaper describing Bush's unbeleivable incompetence during that catastrophe:

Hurricane Katrina Left a Mark on George W. Bush’s Presidency
By Kenneth T. Walsh
Posted December 11, 2008

Botching Katrina.

It was a disaster at every level. But in political terms, the government's failure to respond effectively to Hurricane Katrina in the late summer of 2005 was Bush's biggest setback at home. "Katrina showed he is incompetent," says Howard Dean, outgoing chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "Before Katrina, everyone, including America's friends and enemies, believed if something awful happened in the world, you could call in the Americans and they'd fix it." The government response to the hurricane, which devastated New Orleans and much of the Gulf Coast, ruined that reputation, Dean argues.

Bush seemed slow off the mark as millions of people suffered, and he created a lasting image of isolation when the White House released photos of him, a solitary figure in his cushy seat, looking out a window on Marine One at the hurricane devastation far below. He also made a huge mistake when he praised Michael Brown, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, with a now infamous attaboy—"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job"—even though the agency was botching the disaster response, adding to the impression that Bush was out of touch.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/12/11/hurricane-katrina-left-a-mark-on-george-w-bushs-presidency.html

Firstly, evem if Bush were to miraculouly heal the katrina victims, the democrats would still find faults so quoting a democrat doesn't help your cause.

Then, even if GB screwed up during katrina did he not show considerable improvement in the next disaster that was the california fires?

Where is it written in stone that a man isn't allowed one mistake and subsequently learn from it?

Infact, having been president during two major disasters like katrina and the carlifornia fires that gives george bush a wealth of experience in such matters and he definately wont make the same mistakes again.

paddy_lo:

thats the best u can come up with? compare me to another person
u keep harping on this fake help. .like d brainwashed african u are or a broken record
if bush is so-keen on helping,why didnt he help american citizens to cheaper drugs from canada?
why did he block it. . his own ppl,
but u will tout the mindless quote above. .that means absolutely nothing
best record my foot . .more like best record for windfall profits for drug companies,and defense contractors?

Quit the victim mentality mate . . . .

I dont need any lecture on the advantages and disadvantages of aid.

If you think any American President is going to give you something not produced in America, you must living in lala land.

Which money is used to award the contracts to the drug companies. . . . is it not American taxpayer money? Why should he award the contract to a foreign company?

Or do you think his loyalty to his people is divided?

Empowerment in Africa must be internal, not external. The cancellation of debt should give African countries no excuse for not empowering themselves from now on.

Please provide a comparative analysis of American Presidents history in Africa, or just shat it.

Quit the victim mentality mate . . . .

victim?. . .how ironic. .u are the one praising america for giving u handouts or crumbs
cant get more helpless than that

i have no such mentality dude. . on the contrary i wish more african countries would
stop accepting aid,like eritrea did recently