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Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Brooke60(f): 7:06pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
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Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by baby124: 7:09pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
LMAO! Not again! I just hahahahahaha when Nigerian tribes come up with this Egypt bs. We are all from Nigeria o. Except the Hausa, Kanuri and Fulani. We probably came to Nigeria longer than the Egyptians were in Egypt. Remember Egyptians kept impeccable records. So these heros mentioned will be in their history if they ever existed. So let's not disgrace ourselves claiming history that does not exist. By the way we did not migrate from Sudan but from East Africa! 4 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by baby124: 7:14pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Afam4eva:They definitely have or had some contact or connection with Yoruba but it was a long time ago. Some of their titles like Olori and Olorogun are clearly Yoruba titles. Lol. But separation must have taken place a very long time ago. They were a bit isolated so must have kept their genetic makeup much better even if their language evolved. 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Afam4eva(m): 7:22pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
fratermathy:You're distorting our history. We had no contact with Europeans as far as mixing goes. We just have more lighter complexioned black people than other groups. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Sanchez01: 7:22pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Kirigidi:I understand you perfectly but my response came off as one who wasn't interested in dating back to history. Thank you though. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Sanchez01: 7:27pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
baby124:True this. I have come to notice that Urhobos fast latch on to Yoruba as a language and are often open to inter-marriage with the Yorubas. The genetic make-up remains a wonder and I wish the language was guarded in that manner. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by baby124: 7:30pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Sanchez01:Language always evolves. Even Yoruba's of today speak an easier Yoruba than the old Yoruba's. Remember they must have gone through the Benins, the Ishans to get to where they are. So they picked up different languages and fused with their own. Even in genetic tests, Yoruba and Ishan are often classified as the same. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Afam4eva(m): 7:32pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Sanchez01:This doesn't mean nothing. The ability to speak a language or marry Yorubas is not an evidence of sharing a history with a people. Anybody can have the ability to learn any language. 3 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by lyricalz: 7:35pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Sanchez01: You have spoken like the true son of your father. Urhobos and other other edoid group like esan, auchi and the rest migrated from Bini, pple are just trying to dodge that fact so as not to make Benin feel superior, but that's not the case, history is history. Weda d Yoruba's who claim the oduduwa came from heaven via a ladder also the igbos who claim they came from Israel or Hausas like it or not, every tribe in Africa has their root in Egypt. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Nobody: 7:39pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Go find out bro. From Chad down the Niger and benue river straight down to the ocean. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Nobody: 7:50pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Opharhe: i'd like to learn too |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Mujtahida: 7:57pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
specter:Kai Bros, I don't know about Chad down the Niger but I know very well Benue river and the riverine people there are the Tivs and Jukuns. Ijaws are not indigenous to those places. 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by dragonking3: 8:06pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
scionofurhobo:God bless you OP for this. Long live the Urhobo and isoko culture. long live all nigerdelta culture. 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by MENELIK1: 8:07pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
fratermathy: Get your facts right, Yoruba traceable to Dahomey! No sir the reverse is the case and majority of the tribes in western part of Nigeria from the Olukumi and Itsekiri in Delta to as far as Ewe of Togo can trace their origin to Yoruba land. The difference between the father and the son is monumentally large. Eschew revisionist history emanating from some quarters, it is not true. 3 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Sanchez01: 8:30pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Afam4eva:Personally, I'm not convinced about the said shared history with the Yorubas. Most of the journals around seem distorted and none seem convincing enough to drive home the point. And if indeed Urhobos of old came in contact with the Yorubas, then it must have been through Bini. For most Urhobos who are bilingual, the present day Benin language and Yoruba are the most adopted. This best explains our open mindedness towards marrying from these places, mostly, than from other areas. Why the why might not be readily available, I'd make bold to say it is an unconscious act at mingling with people from the aforementioned areas. I have over five relatives who are inter-married with people from Benin and Yorubas. Fathia Balogun and the late Henrietta Kosoko comes to mind. Rachael Oniga is one as well. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Sanchez01: 8:35pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
baby124:The old Yorùbá rests with the people of Oyo and is still being spoken till date. The present day Yoruba is a blend of slangs and language, and it is common in Lagos than in other Yoruba areas. Others are marked by dialect. 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Nobody: 8:37pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Hmmmmmmm, see deceit oo So Urhobo is now fada of all nations: fada to yoruba, hausa, ibo, and so on So Oduduwa that 'decended from the sky' is now Urhobo's son. By the way, this story is disjointed. Please stop deceiving yourselves |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by KemjikaEme: 8:54pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
fratermathy:I know they are Edoid. I'm more interested in the fact that most revisionist are not interested in linguistic,archaeological and genetic pointers to origin but quickly claim a non local origin of Nigerian groups. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by scionofurhobo(m): 9:05pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
I am sorry I may not be able to reply every mentions, but let it be known that Records of our ancestors are stored and locked up in the bodies of the succeeding generations. When you unlock it, nobody would tell you your story or history. Urhobo Wad-do-o! |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by baby124: 9:05pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Sanchez01:Nothing like Old Yoruba being Oyo. The Lagos Yoruba is most similar to OYO Yoruba. Older dialects exist, which are much more complicated and diverse. Oyo Yoruba became more used because of the OYO empire. Let's not get into Yoruba history. This is a Urhobo thread. 3 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by fratermathy(m): 9:17pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
MENELIK1: I meant no harm. I thought I read that somewhere but based on what you've just said, it seems my source is inaccurate. However, I am quite sure that Itsekiri and Olukumi of Delta State are Yoruboids. Even the Okpe clan of Urhobo claims to be from Ife. This confirms your theory of outwardly migration from Yorubaland. However, the Yorubas must have come from somewhere. What are your theories?` 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by seniorkachion(m): 9:20pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
scionofurhobo: Fables. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Dsov2016: 9:31pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
According to history and research most of the first great civilizations of the world were founded along rivers leading to the name river civilization this included mesopotamia(land b/w rivers), hindu , yellow river(Chinese),Nile(Egypt) among many others. What is just being realised is that ancient civilizations traded with each other which is why some ores/materials unique to some areas are found in different areas. But the slavery mentality of Africans is to much how can our tribes be attached to some other nations just because they are popular or because of religious significance it is very possible that sub Saharan Africa is the cradle if the world, just because proof has not been found does not mean it is not there. It is possible that because of the presence of rivers and an outlet to the ocean that there was a great civilization that encompased the tribes found in Nigeria today and that because of disease or environmental factor, it disintegrated and some of the population escaped to Sudan and from there Egypt to the middle east and from there to europe(it is said that britons are descended from the middle east maybe summer or akkad),others through a land bridge to south and north america and from there to asia.Always be proud of ur african especially ur west African heritage. FUN FACT: do u know that it is speculated that the Israelites are a splinter population of the Egyptians I.e lower caste who were treated as slaves. That their religion bears similarities to RA worship. Also if we want to use similarities in translation of our language like the op did then AME in Bini language is water while in Japanese i means rain 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Dsov2016: 9:35pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
fratermathy: I theorize that the yoruba, Bini and IBO's have a common greater ancestor civilization and that an event occurred which led to their splintering and forgetting their common ancestry. I am sure that with proper archaeological expeditions evidence will be found. FUN FACT: did you know that it is speculated that the search for west Africa or African hinterlands was due to a myth of a very wealthy christian king who ruled a very large area and was black. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by anthney87: 9:40pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
The problem with we Nigerians are that we talk too much without thinking and investigating. From my own sourced knowledge before now I learnt the urhobos ika Edo's Yoruba were descendants from Egypt or preferably the Nile. When a war broke out the original inhabitants of Egypt ran away founding different nations as they ran.(know the the present inhabitants of Egypt are total foreigners mostly Arabs from the east) If you look closely from certain pronunciations of the then Egyptians you will find out that they resemble most words pronounced in our present urhobi Edo and ika. Please when issues like this comes up we should learn to ask the good questions like how and when and why and where not cursing and ranting when we know nothing. For the urhobos we have lost a great deal of our culture and history and yes we are settled today in pur present locality by coming in through the Benin route( also the ika pipo and isoko pipo? Making us believe we originated from Edo but our true ancestry lies in Egypt. 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by anthney87: 10:02pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
IFNOTGOD: My dear... The more reason you need to go find out more and not just agree we migrated from Bini. Yoruba's say they are from odudwa and he fell from the sky(crap) yet it was how we were taught in school(history class). I for one will tell u most Nigerian languages can link their origin to Egypt or from old ancient Egyptians who ran away from egypt 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Dsov2016: 10:04pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
@anthney87 If you look closely from certain pronunciations of the then Egyptians you will find out that they resemble most words pronounced in our present urhobi Edo and ika. How do you know ancient Egyptian pronunciation. At times ehn we re just too funny. Have u ever looked at a map and truly understand how difficult it is for a large group of people to migrate in ancient times without A GUIDE like a map or the different environmental factors of then or the different dangers in form of wild animals. Crossing through a forest with a group of people with a guide without a vehicle is very dangerous in modern day and any expedition of such nature without serious injury or death is very lucky. At times we should engage deductive reasoning and logic to such cases rather than using emotions. When I was a little younger I learned in my GST 201 of a theory that the Bini people re from Egypt and descended from the 2nd or 3rd son from the biblical Pharaoh of moses time I went with that theory until I finally sat down and thought about it. There was the ancient NOK civilization so it stands to reason that there was another great civilization down south. Just because that as at now no mention has been made of a super/great civilization does not mean one did not exist, just as there was no knowledge except a little oral evidience which was not believed until the NOK heads were found 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Efewestern: 10:13pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Sanchez01: I think you are forgetting our itsekiri neighbors, no present day urhobo family without link to itsekiri, we married itsekiri more than edo and Yoruba, mind you urhobo sees edo and yoruba as diabolical people. (no beef to my edo peeps) but of all the tribe in Nigeria, urhobo seems more comfortable with those tribe when it comes to marriage and the rest. my ranking 1. Itsekiri 2. Edo 3ijaw 4. Yoruba. urhobo hardly get married to Hausa and igbo, don't know why, but hardly will you see such. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by soliddust2020: 10:15pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Op this your write up is pure thrash. Urhobos originated from Aka or benin. Who ever wrote this book is wrong, the book belongs in the dustbin. In urhobo history we originated from benin and in benin history exiled princes formed urhobo settlement. 1 Like |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by Emusson24: 10:23pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
I have always loved history and with all sense of humility, I have read a lot of historical accounts of the Urhobos as a people. I was privileged to also listen to the oral accounts of various learned elderly men in Urhobo (because of my background), when I saw this thread I thought I could add to my wealth of knowledge regarding my origin.BUT I MUST SAY THAT AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED. 2 Likes |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by vislabraye(m): 10:35pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Afam4eva: Hahahahaaa. . I no dey believe those genealogy tests. They're npt all that accurate. |
Re: The Origin Of Urhobo People by lesson44: 10:41pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
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