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Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by olushevy05: 10:35pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
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Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Isahalbash(m): 10:51pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
YorubaNigga: Imagine a Hausa man arrested in Southeast by state police along with an Igbo man with same offence, who do you think would receive pardon and get jail sentence respectively? |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by alid8788(m): 11:29pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
the problem of Nigeria is state governors. the problem of this country is not because anyone is marginalising anyone, the federal government is not the problem of Nigeria. if federal government allow state governors to have state police ( tugs) then we are finished. we are always looking on to USA, forgetting that 1776and 1960 is not the same. just because USA has state police, Nigeria want state police. with the type of mindset our governors have, and their level of corruption, given them police is giving them power to kill us more. what benefit will state get if they have state police? these governors don't have anything good for the masses. may God save naija 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by omohayek: 11:34pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
nnokwa042:You write as if this isn't already the case. What good did the federal police do for all those Igbos who have been lynched in the north over false accusations of "anti Islamic" activities? And what about the federal police who shot down unarmed IPOB protesters in the SE? Where exactly do you think those policemen were drawn from? As blue3k and davidif have both mentioned multiple times already - though most commenters were clearly too lazy to read what they had to say - the ideal should be for the main body of police to operate at the local government rather than state level, and for the head of that local police to be elected and directly accountable to LGA residents, not to some governor. This doesn't prevent the establishment of a state-level police force, but it should not be the primary means of policing, it must have clear limits on when and how it can interfere with local police investigations, and both the federal police and the state house of assembly should continue to exercise oversight on this state police force. The clear demarcation of authority, in combination with oversight from multiple sources beyond the state governor's control, should be sufficient to ensure that state police do not simply become tools for governors to tyrannize their states. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Optional2(f): 11:38pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
davidif: the ones we elected what happened to them, they rigged the election and pick they own candidate. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jul 20, 2017 |
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Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Willybos(m): 12:00am On Jul 21, 2017 |
IllegalMoney:Yes, i blive ur comment... Nasir El Rufai is the most bastard governor we have in this present administration!! |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by engineerboat(m): 12:34am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Blue3k: How many states have Domocratically elected LGA executives Nonbe caretaker s all of them dey put. And who controls the caretakers Nothing bad in state police. But Nigeria is not ripe for stare police |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 12:35am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Optional2: Police commissioners are not elected in Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 12:37am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Narldon: Well you are asking the wrong person. I am only talking about the localization of the police force not about a political party. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Blue3k(m): 2:27am On Jul 21, 2017 |
engineerboat: None that's a bit hyperbole? I said local for a reason. NASS has 23 separate bill over "Restructuring" adding more over LG autonomy won hurt. In fact this discussion about restructuring without giving this tier of government fiscal autonomy to carry out jobs is pointless. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by neatideas: 5:11am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Community police is preferable like as in London. They don't carry gun, they can arrest and call for back up as need may arise. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by orisa37: 5:29am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Nonsense start up. What concerns the IGP in the devolution of his Powers and why should Zamfara Governor, a Fulani state and Okorocha, a Fulani Herdsmen's supporter be in the meeting? The NASS is scratching the Topic. The NASS is not serious and not bothered about HomeLand Security. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by naijagobetter(m): 7:42am On Jul 21, 2017 |
A good development, what worries me is the funding and the would-be police salary and allowances, #18,000 minimum wage that many states cant pay, am afraid they wil have to get their salary from bribes extortions etc. From folks. And during campaigns/election, God help the opposition/rival. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:33am On Jul 21, 2017 |
YorubaNigga: Wrong! When the British were a in charge we used a localized police force so what are you talking about? Where there is a will there is a way. Also don't forget that We are talking about policing here not the courts. It's only the courts that have the right to sentence someone to jail NOT THE POLICE. Their job is to arrest and not to do the sentencing. Big difference. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:37am On Jul 21, 2017 |
YelloweWest: Nope. We are ready for such. The current model is broken. We need a localized police force where the chief of police is voted by the people and not appointed by the governor. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:38am On Jul 21, 2017 |
connectpoint: Wrong! The current model is broken. What we need is a localized police force where the chief of police is voted by the people not appointed by the governor. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:40am On Jul 21, 2017 |
cristianisraeli: Then make the police commissioner role electible by the people every four years instead of being appointed by the governor. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:43am On Jul 21, 2017 |
PDPGuy: Actually a better model would be a local police force instead of a state police force with the local head of police elected by the people in the community and with all of the conditions you states above. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by YelloweWest: 8:48am On Jul 21, 2017 |
davidif:Such election will be rigged by the governors! |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:49am On Jul 21, 2017 |
nabiz: Abi o! The only way for a child to learn how to walk is to allow them to walk by themselves. They might fall a couple of times but you have to allow them till they figure it out. The best way for someone to grow up is to give them responsibility. That's why they need to cut off allocations asap, get rid of all this excessive states (and of LGA's) that we have by merging them.into regions. Then force them to stand on their own. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:51am On Jul 21, 2017 |
nnokwa042: The state police force do not have to be from that state they just have to be accountable to the people from that state. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:57am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Iamsammy: Gbam!! Don't mind Nigerians and their scare mongering. Them too dey fear Wetin dem never see. When you bring up a new idea They always shoot it down. Saying it will never work in Nigeria as if the status quo is working. In other to progress in life, one has to be willing to take risks and not stay in the same place for great that it won't work out. Almost every time I am on nairaland bring up new ideas it's always the same push back "it won't work in nigeria", "Nigeria is not yanki" or "Nigerians are too tribalistic" etc. But if you tell them to bring there own ideas they can't even think of anything. Fear mongering does not always lead to good policy. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:59am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Isahalbash: First of all, a police man has no right to sentence anyone to prison that's the job of the courts. The police man's job is to arrest. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 9:03am On Jul 21, 2017 |
alid8788: First of all America was not always this advanced and back then just like today policing was left to the local communities with the head of police usually elected by the people. Secondly, when the British were still in charge, we had local police and it worked. Thirdly to stop police doing the bidding of the governor, you make the police commissioner elected by the people and not the state governor. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by PDPGuy: 9:04am On Jul 21, 2017 |
davidif: Election of an LG head officer (or Area commander) would bring unnecessary acrimony within the ranks of the Nigeria Police Force. But I believe that the Local Government Councils could exercise effective oversight over the local police formations within their domain. For instance, the Area commanders and DPOs could be required, by law, to brief LG councillors on police activities and the general security situation in the LG. Ditto for the CP to the House of Assembly. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 9:05am On Jul 21, 2017 |
Optional2: Tell me what state in Nigeria are police commissioners elected by the people?? 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Isahalbash(m): 9:08am On Jul 21, 2017 |
davidif: Not my words...check d person I quoted. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 9:12am On Jul 21, 2017 |
engineerboat: Then when will it ever be? Aren't you people tired of mediocrity? You complain that the police force cannot protect people from cattle herders yet when they offer changes you complain that it won't work. When will you people stop being afraid of taking risks and making changes instead of the tired old tropes "Nigeria is not ready for state police", "the governor's would use them as their personal army" blah blah blah. A highly trained localized police force accountable to the people in the community is the best way to ensure the security of the people not some distant, inefficient, hyper corrupt police force far off in Abuja that is only accountable to the federal govt. 2 Likes |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 9:14am On Jul 21, 2017 |
naijagobetter: This police men don't have to be full time police men you know? They can have other jobs and businesses as long as they disclose it before hand. If they don't and they are caught then it's a fireable offense with possible jail time. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 9:16am On Jul 21, 2017 |
PDPGuy: What I am saying is that there should be no Nigerian police force anymore. Policing should be localized with the state over seeing them. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 9:18am On Jul 21, 2017 |
YelloweWest: We are talking non-partisan elections here. In other words they must not run under any party or be a member of any party to run for the position. 2 Likes |
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