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Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by YelloweWest: 9:30am On Jul 21, 2017 |
davidif:Nigerian is not France. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by eraankusam07(m): 9:41am On Jul 21, 2017 |
No to state police, Police should rather shun corruption |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Yahami(m): 10:17am On Jul 21, 2017 |
I fear for state police, in Nigeria I can tell you we at not mature for that as entails in developed country. the politician we use them to wit hunt their political enemy, any body that against govt policy and many others take look at Kogi state as end exapmle , Ekiti state and an many others...I'm scared of that 1 Like |
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Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by donqx: 11:28am On Jul 21, 2017 |
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Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by positivetaught: 11:51am On Jul 21, 2017 |
we should not just be copying ideas we should endeavor to properly understand them n define exactly what we want in our peculiar environment, to me the idea of state police isn't bad but to avoid abuse my suggestion is that federal police should man federal capital,Area council headquarters,state capitals,LG headquarters n any other town assigned to them while the state community police should man all other towns n villages within the states n FCT,let the personnel of the said state community police serve in their local government area only n not posted beyond that,they should as a must be married before been recruited, the limit of their weapons should also be clearly defined, their working relationship in terms of powers to the federal police should also be clearly defined, as a matter of fact the present various state vigilante groups can easily be upgraded to form the nucleus of the state police. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by NwaforIgbo: 12:39pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
ChangetheChange:Stop spewing trash! Dont we have state Judiciary? Has has Wike or other politicians arm twist it to carry out evil deeds? 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 3:56pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
YelloweWest: It doesn't have to be to have a non partisan state wide election for the supritendent of police. 2 Likes |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by YelloweWest: 5:20pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
davidif:We are simply not there yet. Really check.. Eg a 70 woman was disgraced for having sex with a younger man some days ago While the 39yearold French president is married to a woman who is just 4 years younger... Nigeria is just not ready now. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by naijagobetter(m): 5:23pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
davidif:so they work for free And no incentives?? Lol.... With the way things are in this country trust me they will help themselves. Monkey dey work baboon dey chop |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:08pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
YelloweWest: The best way for someone to grow is to give them responsibility. You can't keep carrying the baby the rest of your life. At some time you have to put them on the ground and let them figure it out themselves. #letthebabywalk. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 8:17pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
naijagobetter: Nope. You pay them a salary according to your budget. When it comes to corruption, that's why you have a board that oversees the police dept and make the head of police elected by the people making them accountable to the people. You can't steal from people and expect them to vote for you at the ballot. 2 Likes |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by engineerboat(m): 10:44pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
Blue3k: That is why any bill that 1, does not separate State account from LGa account is DOA 2, Any bill that does not remove the power of Governor for fire LGA chairmen anyhow is DOA 2 Likes |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by engineerboat(m): 11:06pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
davidif: Mr man you only quote a fragment of my statement why not quote all. State police in Nigeria current political set-up is a no no Even a small child knows that. You can call me whatever pleases you. That does not reduce my stand period 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Blue3k(m): 11:25pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
engineerboat: 1It's DOA based on what? Members NASS already think it's dumb idea. There's plenty of university research to back it up. The State Assembly mightbe obstacles but pressure and party politics will prevail for bettter. 2. The supreme courts already said you can't fire LGA chairmen. Link: http://punchng.com/supreme-court-faults-laws-empowering-govs-sack-%e2%80%8elgs/ |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by engineerboat(m): 11:40pm On Jul 21, 2017 |
Blue3k: Take a look at this. 1. https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/editorial/supreme-court-ruling-on-lgs-tenure/177251.html 2. https://www.sunnewsonline.com/akeredolu-sacks-council-chairmen-councillors Read the two and get back |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Blue3k(m): 12:00am On Jul 22, 2017 |
engineerboat: 1. Your article proved my point. The court said it's illegal to fire local government chairmen. The big issue your article points out is federal government ineptitude perpetuate the system. They don't need restructuring not to send care taker committee money. The judge also said Section 7(1) of the Constitution seeks to guarantee the system of local government by democratically elected local government councils and conferred “sacrosanctity on the election of such officials whose electoral mandates derived from the will of the people freely exercised through the democratic process.” “The elected councils are therefore clothed in constitutional force.” While the Supreme Court judgement stands commendable, the dividends from its new relief of guaranteed tenure for the Local Government councils may not be optimised until the federal government also consolidates the threshold of rectitude by upholding the constitutional provision of restricting funding to only elected Local government councils. 2. The governanor was ordered to sack these guys by the court because their position should were illegitimate. Did you read these articles or just citing them to keep me busy. This is not the same example as care taker committee. Ondo State Governor, Mr Rotimi Akeredolu, has ordered all the chairmen and councillors of the 18 Local Government Areas in the state to vacate their offices with immediate effect. The governor’s order was sequel to the judgment of an Akure High Court which dissolved local government administrations in the state. “This directive is predicated on the order of Honourable Justice Adesola Sidiq of the State High Court, Akure, which found that the 1st and 2nd Defendants, Ondo State Independent Electoral Commission and Prof Olugbenga Ige, the Chairman, conducted the election of 23 April, 2016, “in violation of the mandatory provisions of Sections 1(1) (3),40, 42, 287 of the Constitution Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999, as amended, and Articles 2, 3(1) (2), 10(1), 11 and 13 (1) of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights (Ratification and Enforcement) Act Cap. A9, the Laws of Federation, 2004,” and, consequently, dissolved all Local Government Administrative set up across all the 18 Local Government Areas of Ondo State.” |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 1:50am On Jul 22, 2017 |
engineerboat: Ok since you dont like state police then why not go one better and push for local police or are you one of those types that only knows how to criticize new ideas but can't offer any new ideas besides the tired old ineffective status quo? 2 Likes |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by engineerboat(m): 8:54am On Jul 23, 2017 |
davidif: You are only contradicting yourself. State Police is Good but Nigeria is not ripe for state Police. 1. When Governor Stop treating LGA like their servants 2. When Governor stops sacking, firing LGA chairmen just like a civil servant or as their normal political appointees 3. When STATE and LGA joint account ciezed to be (seperation) 4. When Governors stops arrassing their opponents because they are not in agreement with them. 5. When the Power that be stop misusing even the NPF Mr. dont just keep shouting state police, state police when you known Nigeria is not ripe |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by engineerboat(m): 9:21am On Jul 23, 2017 |
Blue3k: Am not sure you know what actually transpired. Position not legitimate. you are only confirming it that the Governor only o what pleases them. A LGA Chairmen appointed by election, you said are not LEGITIMATE. Then what is your own definition of legitimate. This was February 26. Governor Rotimi Akeredolu has approached the Court of Appeal to upturn a judgment of an Ondo State High Court barring the state government from dissolving local governments in the state. The case is due for mention at the Appeal Court, sitting in Akure, the state capital, tomorrow. Still on this matter, May I ask you is Akeredolu the PRP chairman. The Ondo State high Court, sitting in Akure, the state capital on Friday dissolved the local government executives in the eighteen local government areas of the state. Election tribunal was set-up PRP did not show up nor attend. The summary is that the Court case Akeredolu is standing on is baseless. |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by Blue3k(m): 4:07pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
engineerboat: Dude what are you ramblings about? Make sure this is your last reply to me. You change shift goal post every reply. Now you saying highcourts ruling was incorrect. They should've take it up with supreme court to overturn it simple. The court said they broke all sorts of rules in constitution making election invalid. The governor removed them on that ground. This was not a unilateral action. The governor didn't fire them the court did essentially. Does it matter if he's PRP what does it have to with ruling. Who cares if they didn't show up the merit of case is based on law. It's weird but whatever. 1 Like |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by engineerboat(m): 4:45pm On Jul 23, 2017 |
Blue3k: Why won't I reply you because you are missing the fact of the matter and you fail to realize the reality. 1. Has the Appeal court deliever the its judgment 2. Why did Akeredolu send lawyer to court I'm a case that does not concern neither APC nor Akeredolu 3. Why did Akeredolu refuse to allow PRP chairman appear in court with PRP lawyers. It shows you are far fr reality. State police s not ripe in Nigeria period |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by davidif: 1:15am On Jul 24, 2017 |
engineerboat: I did not contradict myself. I am in favor of shifting policing from the federal govt and moving it closer to the people be it state or local. A constable is less likely to extort his constituents (or neighbors) for bribes and is more likely to know where thieves live than someone from a different part of the state or the country. So while I prefer policing to be left to the local govts, in the mean time I will settle for state police. At least it's a first step in the right direction and i feel its much more effective to have a publicly voted state commisioner of police who is more accountable to his constituents than Abuja. Local policing (or in this case, State policijng) is not perfect (name one system that is?) but it is definitely better than what we have now. It's so annoying when you people complain that the police are corrupt, ineffecient and can't protect you from herders or cult members yet you still support the same pathetic arrangement and want different results. Abi didn't they say that the very definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and again and expecting different results? |
Re: Governors Forum Set Up Committee For State Police by naijagobetter(m): 11:02am On Jul 24, 2017 |
davidif:mmmmm... I see, that makes some sense. We are now left the the Nigerian factor. |
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