GuidoVanRossum:


Like I said, you don't understand what you are trying to argue. Train as a word means different thing to an engineer. The phrase "Christmas tree" to an oil and gas engineer differs in meaning to what you understand it to be. I can say the same about the word "maintenance".

It is very clear like day light. Or does the design mean another thing? Lol.

Maintain is very clear there. Shine your eyes .

obailala:
Whilst the man and every other qualified Nigerian engineer have a genuine reason to feel insulted and be mad at Amaechi's statement, the sad reality of life is that Amaechi said nothing but the bitter truth.

We live in a country where when constructing even the tiniest and most insignificant road or bridge, there always has to be one Indian or Lebanese or Filipino or one 'fake oyibo' being the project/construction manager narrating project progress to govt officials. And if that's not the case, the project would most likely end up as another failed or grossly substandard job simply because the black man has refused to take charge. Just recently some Chinese 'school boys' came and discovered Iron Ore amongst other economic minerals in the jungles of Cross Rivers, meanwhile we have hundreds of thousands of geologists in Nigeria, some even professors.

Bolustical:
A friend of mine in UI once narrated how their best Mechanical Engineering student could not even detect one single fault when their vehicle broke down during Aluta parade. They had to call on this small mechanic boys.

Yet such a person would want to think he should be considered over a 2:1 grad of the same course from MIT or Carltech.

Truth is bitter than Yoyo bitters.

tk4rd:
Majority of the roads in Anambra were designed by Anambra Born Engineers., and the construction of most of these roads were done by Anambra Born Contractors too...
Even if it happened that there are roads where an oyibo man is the manager, I can proudly tell you that they were not just given the contract just like that.. They contested with some other Anambra Born Contractors for the job, and they later won the contract.
In Anambra State, we don't believe that anything that is not done by the oyibo man is not genuine.. No.
We believe that we have whatever it takes for us to be whatever we want to be.

Bolustical:
A friend of mine in UI once narrated how their best Mechanical Engineering student could not even detect one single fault when their vehicle broke down during Aluta parade. They had to call on this small mechanic boys.

Yet such a person would want to think he should be considered over a 2:1 grad of the same course from MIT or Carltech.

Truth is bitter than Yoyo bitters.

Oduok:

You that knows what Engineering is all about; That a Professor of Engineering cannot repair a car engine is normal? That means he cannot design and build one from scratch. Any young Engineer in this country that rants rather than rising to the challenge is living in self deceit.

Adiwana:



And who told you you all the bullshit you typed up there.A Nigerian Mec. Engineer cannot design a Car?God!Enough with this useless assumptions.Go to Unizik for example and see what Students do with solidworks.In real Sense,an Engr has no business diagnosing a faulty car.Go and read the difference between a mechanic and a mechanical engineer. Stop trying to sound smart cause you are actually sounding stupid

Adiwana:
Honestly,many people are just educated illitrates that don't know jack.In 2017,many can't differentiate the difference between a mechanic and a mechanical engr.If you can't differentiate the two,how then do you know the work of an engr in the first place.Some people expect Engrs. to Fix cars?How worse can our education system be?People are so quick to jump on the white man's dvck but dont know how their systems work.Someone was talking about MIT students being better products?lmao.Go on YouTube and you will see a video of how MIT graduates couldn't connect wires from terminals in a simple cell experiment.Something ss1 physics students play with In our secondary schools.Know the work of an engr first before thinking they can't do this and that.Google is your friend

myking95:


Don't talk ignorantly. Engineers mostly design and in most cases (especially civil and Mech) only troubleshoot what they themselves have designed or if a blueprint is available.
Talking about a car, it is a complex machine with many variations across manufacturers and models. Engineer or not, u have to be familiarized with the workings of the car before u fix it.
Your example u put forward reeks of ignorance . He is a mechanical engineer, so what? What if he specialized in HVAC?
Blame the faulty system. In Europe before going for your degree in mechanical engineering, ur predegree courses will include CAD for mechanical design, basic installations and operations, etc.
Blame it on the system and the Nigerian way. But even at that, put forth your points Intelligently

GuidoVanRossum:


Like I said, you don't understand what you are trying to argue. Train as a word means different thing to an engineer. The phrase "Christmas tree" to an oil and gas engineer differs in meaning to what you understand it to be. I can say the same about the word "maintenance".

Bolustical:

Shut up!!!

The thing pepper you. I must have hit you on the sore spot

Mech Engine graduate that does not know how to carry out a simple Tiger Generator servicing?

What are you saying?

It is like reading how to drive a car for four years and cannot even drive a car in your street!!!

Oga, kiss the truth.

myking95:


I can see I wasted effort trying to set u aright. But then maybe u are just a wastebasket incapable of holding any wisdom.

Address all I said intelligently!

A Mech Engine Grad of 5 years that cannot do simple servicing of his own small Tiger Gen not because he does not have time but because he has no idea.

Is that one a graduate

Bolustical:

Shut up!!!

The thing pepper you. I must have hit you on the sore spot

Mech Engine graduate that does not know how to carry out a simple Tiger Generator servicing?

What are you saying?

It is like reading how to drive a car for four years and cannot even drive a car in your street!!!

Oga, kiss the truth.

obailala:
Stop flattering yourself bro, every state has engineers who can design roads too, and every state has indigenous contractors too who can handle these projects. But there's a reason governors (Obiano inclusive) keep falling back to those foreign (fake oyibo) contractors. See numerous pictures of Obiano and the 'fake foreigners' below:

Amaechi in his first tenure for instance (between 2007 and 2011) tried to use only local contractors for all his projects and the quality of their projects left a very sour taste in his mouth; he was forced to follow the ways of others who patronised cheap (fake oyibo) foreigners.

This is not to say Nigerian engineers dont have the knowhow to get these things done, but somehow, we have just refused to do anything right.

fyneguy:
The man did not address what Amaechi said.

Amaechi said Nigerian Engineers were only trained in narrow guage rail system. There is no Nigerian expert for the standard guage engineering which is still at its infancy in Africa. South Africa, Ethiopia, and Kenya are the only ones with standard guage rail systems in Africa.

fyneguy:
The man did not address what Amaechi said.

Amaechi said Nigerian Engineers were only trained in narrow guage rail system. There is no Nigerian expert for the standard guage engineering which is still at its infancy in Africa. South Africa, Ethiopia, and Kenya are the only ones with standard guage rail systems in Africa.

tk4rd:
Just the way black men live and work in every other foreign country, that's what you see here..
1. Like I said, any contract you see oyibo man as the manager was keenly contested with Anambra born contractors. For any single photo of oyibo contractor you see, there are more than 25 photos of Anambra born contractors.. Why are you so interested in the few oyibo photos...

2. By the way, the original argument in the main post was that Nigerian Engineers are not competent, and cannot handle Railway Jobs, which I strongly refute.. Anambra Contractors can handle it..
If Amechi was sincere to himself, he wouldn't have made such fallacious mistake of hasty generalization..

If he had no trust in Nigerian Engineers,, he would have just sacked all the Nigerian staff at NRC, and then tell the Nigerian Universities to discontinue the study of Engineering..
I mean, what is the use of training Nigerian Engineers if the FG would not notice the good engineers amongst them at least.??
..
3. The reason things are done wrongly is because, the supervisors from the said ministries allow such substandard works to go approved, just because they collected some kickbacks..
The Oyibo contractors could be admired for this. They don't drop kickbacks for anybody.. They can only show little appreciation, just the little they can,, and do the work the way it is in the design.. They don't do shabby works and cover it up with bribes..
Nevertheless, in Anambra, all these bad-collabo had been corrected.. The proper checks had been put in place to see to the quality of projects.. A lot of independent bodies now check the projects before they are certified and approved, and thus, everybody involved in the works had to sit up and deliver good jobs, if not, it won't be approved if any of the control agencies marked it as substandard..

InvertedHammer:


One could place gold infront of the most educated Africans and they will not recognize or acknowledge it until a whiteman points it out. Education is still perceived as a title acquisition endeavour instead of a means of broadening one's knowledge.

It took some Chinese to discover some mineral resources in Cross River while thousands of Nigerian professors and graduates are only good at framing their golden diplomas in their offices.
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oluwaahmed:



Black africa is under-developed because of d white man. D whiteman taught sme black ple deir evil & corrupt ways and thus dose. Black pple hav held africa down 4 years. Even till now, d west still continue to impose deir stooges 2 rule us while d good brains run outa d con3 only 2 become legends. Do u knw ow many American sport athletes are Africans, ok look @ ddeir sport, is it not dominated by black pple? 4rm US,UK to France black pple dominate sports in dese countries. D amechi dat is talkin is he part of d problem, go & look @ d monorail project he constructe 500m for 50million. Our leaders hav failed 2 invest in educatn so wld africa develope? Go 2 uni- illorin, CU go & see wat student are doin der, wit consistency, dey can change d world. Do u knw der are african nuclear physicist in NASA? All d deadly diseases like Ebola, HIV all originated 4rm africa, why dint dey kill our fore father's since. White man is gud yes, but doesn't mean d black man is dull. Ow many whites get scholarships 2 ivy league schls, go & count d amount of black ple in ivy league schls on scholarship. We will reach der one day.

fineboynl:
.. modern development and civic civilization is not a black culture and not part of blacks. until blacks admit this and tell themselves the truth. black all over the world lack everything it takes to build a develop nation. it's not part of them. a nation is not rich by mare natural resources but artificial resources and intelligence.


Black's can't developed their country not because they don't like to but because they don't have what it takes in their brain. its just God that made it so. the white shouldn't have bothered themselves with black people. they should have been left alone in the dark. i don't hate blacks but i love you guys not to tell you the Truth. you guys should have been left alone with your culture and heritage not forcing colonialism on your throat which your forefathers rejected but were defeated.

icedfire:
Engr is just a tag

Would u rather give your car to a Japanese or Chinese technician who works at Toyota and has years of experience or a Nigerian automotive engineer with an M.eng in mechanical engineering who can not diagnose a faulty car let alone design one?

Nigerian certificates are grossly overrated.

Ameachi i am sorry was right. The Chinese technicians as you call them have years of experience building railway lines in China, Kenya and other African countries. The Nigerian engineer is only good at gathering titles and certificates. Mni, mnse, M.eng, b.eng etc

Omooba77:


Mechanical Engineering has more than 25 area of specialisation and dont confuse it with Automomative Engineering.
Nigerian Engineers are one of the best in the world, give them equal opportunity

samsard:
Garbage from white supremacist. Thank goodness not everyone exhibits a defeatist attitude like yours.

Almaheed:



shut up your mouth uncle Tom, keep spilling nonsense everywhere in your mind now you are above the black race, you had better begin to read more black history and know how large our civilization was. keep fooling yourself you can never be a white man, your reasoning depicts Inferiority and a deluded mind, after all you are only dancing to the tune of your white god

oluwasheun94:
pls develop your mentality first before quoting trash. so philip emeagwali , prof awojobi are whites abi?

djon78:



I don't believe that. It is just that our society allows the worst of us to be in charge, while the best live in obscurity and penury.

Moreover after the rise of China, the next big thing to happen in this our modern world will be the industrialisation of Africa. Mark it somewhere. Industrialisation of Africa will create a continent with wealth in Tens of Trillions of Dollars.

gare:



Ameachi studied English and Literary studies from uniport and he doesn't have any working career history for any engineering and oil and gas company, been a Governor who doesn't supervise Govt project directly doesn't give him the right to talk about Nigerian engineers like that, I do have over 12 yrs working experience with the oil and gas industry and have seen a lot of brilliant Nigerian engineers that do even teach the expertriate when they come on board.

Ameachi should be mindful of his actions and words that you don't play politics with everything, I do wonder hey the press release. For the petroleum minister, he has worked all his life in Mobil and even got to the Position of a DMD, you cannot compare him to Amaechi who was just a PRO for Odilis hospital (PAMO Clinic)

oluwaahmed:


Pls wat is so difficult in railway? Was it not blacks dat wer used 2 construct rail lines in America & Europe for 400 years? Pls enuff of dat black pple ain't intelligent bullshiit. D Egyptian pyramids wer built by who? D first university in d world was in timbuktu, der ar archaeological artifacts dat suggest many pple came from far and wide 2 study Astrology @ dat schl, wch led d foundations 4 discoverin oda planets apart 4rm our planet. Wat most pple Dnt knw is dat d black race wld hav developed even witout d white men. Wasn't der a time wen d whites believed in d gods? Wat abt oda savagery like killin xtains ino
collesium, or vikin warriors dat committed heinous crimes like murder & lunderin? Was Ethiopia ever colonized by d white man? Wit all deir technology yet dey cldnt conquer Ethiopia. Pls carry ur lies & feed 2 uncle sam, der are still many enlightened blacks even on dis forum. Uncle ruccus niccur

fineboynl:
people or generation are indexed by number of the majority. and rated by majority. you are only mentioning 2% from 100. which can't be accepted as facts Black's lack the collective will of coming together to work in one purpose. blacks are self hate and opposed each others view with any means including witchcrafts.

no nation can developed without a collective will. blacks is a breed of its own specie's. just the same way dogs breed are intelligent to one another.

blueAgent:


Laughable.

blueAgent:



Teach the Expertriate?
On what do they teach the Expertriates?