aloy-emeka:

Yes igbo people ruined Nigeria
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babapupa:


Dispute/challenge my facts or keep it moving. I just can't be bothered with your loony talk.

aloy-emeka:

[size=14pt]This issue has been beaten to death here many times.[/size]

babapupa:


Like I said, chalenge  my facts or keep it moving. I don't have time for your loony talk.

babapupa:

Well said, except that Igbo people before and after the war were blessed with the same rights enjoyed by the westerners and northerners.
Just because Igbo people and Huasa people in the north weren't getting along doesn't mean they were not part of Nigeria or were denied any kind of rights. What happened was limited to the northern part of Nigeria.

An Igbo man was the president of Nigeria, an Igbo man was the vice presidents of Nigeria, Igbo men were and still are ministers, senators, governors permanent secretaries, managers and directors of paratatals all over the country, Igbo men are major power brokers in the same Nigeria.

All your paranoia talk just doesn't hold any water, just the same selfish and preferential treatment talk.

aloy-emeka:

Why do you keep diverting this thread?. Your initial was that the Yoruba chief is useless and should be thinking of how to evacuate his people back to Yoruba land. Since he is not here to read your suggestion and anger towards him, why not lead the crusade?. Do you need two heads to lead your people out of danger?. This goes to show the hypocrisy underlined in your suggestion here. Let them do it while I issue ordfers online. Bloody coward.

Instead of addressing the issue at hand, you are more interested in unleashing your generic animosity on Igbos by starting a vain arguement. Are Igbos the ones killing your brothers in Jos?. Go and check Nairaland history and read pages where this issue has been beatren to death. Its like the Biafra/Ojukwu saga. If you want the pages, I can exhume them and let you read at your best. I do not indulge in beating a dead horse. we are in 2010 and the Yorubas in Jos are in danger in 2010 and not in 1966. Geddit?

RichyBlacK:

Which of these principles do you disagree with?

1. All citizens are guaranteed equal rights.
2. The rights of citizens are not dependent on the geographical location they find themselves, except it explicitly stated.
3. Every citizen has the right to do business any where in the nation.
4. Citizens reserve the right to self-defense to save life and property.

Try answering this simple question.

babapupa:

Are you saying Igbo people were denied their rights before the civil war or at anytime? What's your point really?

Obviously, I didn't disagree with anything, I basically pointed out that Igbo people before and after the war were blessed with the same rights enjoyed by the westerners and northerners.

Also that just because Igbo people and Huasa people in the north weren't getting along doesn't mean they were not part of Nigeria or were denied any kind of rights. What happened was limited to the northern part of Nigeria.

And Igbo man was the president of Nigeria, an Igbo man was the vice presidents of Nigeria, Igbo men were and still are ministers, senators, governors permanent secretaries, managers and directors of paratatals all over the country, Igbo men are major power brokers in the same Nigeria.


True or false?

RichyBlacK:

So, if you do not "disagree with anything", then why are you suggesting that fellow Nigerians should abandon their property and leave their places of residence because of the criminal activities of a few miscreants?

Justcash:

Babapupa will you shut up!

Yorubas are Nigerians. They must stay in Jos whether good or bad, till death does Nigeria part. 

You guys fought to keep Nigeria one. That is very brave of the Yorubas. Oya! it is time to co-exist as one! 

Coward like you!

How did Igbo get into this topic? Abeg, leave my people alone o. We are very much in the North and West. We are ready to remain in Nigeria whether by Peace, money or guns. However We will leave the day Yorubas see the uselessness of the Entity called Nigeria.

As for Now, Yorubas must stay where they want to live in Nigeria, and be killed by the Mugus that sucked Awo's  manliness to make him betray the people that set him free from prison that the same Mugus put him in.

Nonsense!!!

Oya let's chant, "ONE NIGERIA!!!!!!!"

babapupa:


What else is new? Just another loud mouth spitting the same odious I guess.

NEXT>>>>>>.

babapupa:


Hundreds of people died because of the actions of the same few miscreants abeg.

What's your point? Are you suggesting that unarmed innocent people should confront violence because they have rights? Why do people flee areas of violence and unrest? What is the meaning of and what causes human displacement of refugees? You think they don't have rights.

Safety and protection of life and property mean anything to you? As a leader, what would you do? Tell your unarmed men, women and children to confront bloody violence because they have rights?  Are you even reading and making sense of what you're posting and asking people to do?

Justcash:

I would have been surprised if you had a good response. The best you can do is to do what typical cowards do, Run!!!!

Chant "One Nigeria!!!"

Justcash:

Babapupa will you shut up!

Yorubas are Nigerians. They must stay in Jos whether good or bad, till death does Nigeria part. 

You guys fought to keep Nigeria one. That is very brave of the Yorubas. Oya! it is time to co-exist as one! 

Coward like you!

How did Igbo get into this topic? Abeg, leave my people alone o. We are very much in the North and West. We are ready to remain in Nigeria whether by Peace, money or guns. However We will leave the day Yorubas see the uselessness of the Entity called Nigeria.

As for Now, Yorubas must stay where they want to live in Nigeria, and be killed by the Mugus that sucked Awo's d.i.c-k to make him betray the people that set him free from the prison that the same Mugus put him in.

Nonsense!!!

Oya let's chant, "ONE NIGERIA!!!!!!!"

RichyBlacK:

Alright, I agree with you that the protection of life and property is very important, however, guaranteeing such protection may come at a cost, a cost that the entities involved must be willing to pay.

Those unarmed civilians can get armed. Running away from crime is not always the best response because it emboldens the perpetrators of such crime.

Nigeria is our country, equally. We all have rights to live anywhere in Nigeria. You suggesting that people leave their business, property and jobs, instead of fighting back the criminals (even if inviting fellow Nigerians to join in the fight), is most insensitive.

Your suggestion will only worsen things.

babapupa:


You can not cut and dice safety and security of innocent people, your job as a leader is to secure their safety, not to kill them, not to jeopardize their lives by inserting them in the middle of violence, they are not the army, police, militia or para military. There are refugees during unrests for a reason, you don't tell them to stand and fight because hey have rights or you're trying to prove a point. Innocent and unarmed  people are not political or ideological fighting army.

Btw, who do your surggest arming them? The government? Who really?

babapupa:

So far according to the history of our great Nation, we have just one coward on record, I believe his name is Ojukwu. The number one cut and run expert.
We, don't run, we pick and chose our fights like reasonable people with wisdom. We didn't run away from the the Biafran army, we not only confronted them, we kicked their a.!s.s till they surrendered to a Yoruba man.
You see, it doesn't matter how many times you repeat the coward nonsense, we both know who the coward is, it's in history books and that you can not erase.
There you have it, are you satisfied now?

Sonofpeace:

for your info baba whatever Ojukwu did not run away rather he was compelled by colleagues including effiong to escape to ivory coast via biafra jet for his safety en that of the igbos.

Justcash:

The fact that you consciously suggested that the Yorubas who made Jos their home in their country (Nigeria) should run back to their villages because they are being attacked shows that you are an unrepentant coward.
Don't try to deviate the topic by looking for a way to bring Igbos into it.
My point is that Yorubas must stay in Jos. They must protect themselves and die if possible protecting themselves. The Hausa's fought in Idi araba (Remember?) Igbo's also fought in Kano and retaliated in the East to stem the frequent attacks on us  in other parts of our so called country. Yorubas must be able to do same, especially considering that they also fought to keep Nigeria as one.
Stop praising a Yoruba/Hausa army that had "Oyibo" backing and seek for a way to fight for your right without "Oyibo" backing.
There may be no D-i.c-ks for you to suck this time. Lol!
You are a Coward!

babapupa:

This is like the hundredth reason why he ran, I believe there's is another hundred out there.
Captains don't abandon ships, they are the last to leave. Ojukwu not only cowardly betrayed the people he lead to their deaths, he returned to mock their deaths by collecting pensions from the same Nigerian government he sacrificed his people's life and property for, he even asked to be paid a general's rank pensions even though he was not a General in the Nigerian army. He is out there smooching and having a good time with the same people he fought against and contributing to the on going mess.
Where is the dignity and honor?
Where is the core conviction?
What did the innocent died for?

babapupa:

Like I said, wise people pick and chose their battle, we are not zombies and we don't do follow follow. You're not making any sense.
I'd still love to know why the million igbo folks that migrated back east did not stay and fight up north. Abi den just develop weak liver after seeing thousands of Igbo people bleeding and dying?
You are not making any sense. Some Igbo leader made the right decision back then and called for Igbo people up north to move back east.
Btw, Oyibo did not back the 3rd MC that whooped you, a Yoruba man was in charged and you surrendered to him. Always remember that or I'll keep reminding you. We fight to win when it counts.

babapupa:

Dude, too bad you're no making any sense. Going back n forth with you is torture,
Next abeg,

KnowAll:

That Yoruba King in Jos is on his own, if the berom’s or is it the Hausa’s if they like they should kill him and make suya from his body it would not move a hair from my head. [size=14pt]The Igbos started this silly parallel kingship in Nigerian Towns and Cities[/size]. How can u have the Gwom Gwon of Jos as the King of the Beroms and in the same town have a Yoruba King, an Igbo King and a Seriki Hausawa in Jos. I think all these minor Kings are undermining the authority of the Gwom Gwon of Jos,  the State goverment or is it the LG Chairman that has the power should disband this rival Kings from parading themselves as Kings  henceforth.


Is there an Hausa King in Oyo Town or an Igbo King in Ile-Ife the Ooni or the Alaafin would not allow such nonsense in their domain.


Secondly Yoruba’s believe in hierarchical Kingship not all Kings are the same. There are 1st class Kings and second class Kings, so also there are Baales who are not King but literally it means “ Father of the Land “. A King in Yoruba land wears a crown, this Idiots who travelled to other peoples land and start calling themselves King who Crowned them. Do they have any historical linage to this unknown or unheard throne if they do where is the proof.

They should not even attempt to call themselves Baale of the Yorubas in Jos because that would interpret to the Yoruba’s being landowners in Jos which would put them in a direct conflict with the locals. The Yorubas in Jos who came there as some kind of artisan or the other either as a driver, tailor, carpenter, bricklayer or businessman should face their businesses squarely and desist from getting themselves involve from this anomaly created by the Kingless Igbos.

Yorubas can have a Yoruba Society or club in Jos with a Chairman or President but King is a No-No and a no go area.

KnowAll:

That Yoruba King in Jos is on his own, .

Justcash:

Babapupa:


1. You simply can't defend your view, and deny that you are a coward.


Stand and fight  like the people that you claimed to defeat.
coward!!!