Nobody is against regulation , the problem here is that Nigerian government is not credible and provide no service to their citizens , they cannot even regulate themselves ..you cannot even compare Nigeria to a civilized country ..
by the way NGO pays taxes in UK and America when they reach a certain threshold , for example is if a pastor is earning above 25000 pounds the income is taxed ,evident charitable projects are not taxed ..donations to help the poor e.g. food banks are not taxed

benji93:

I am sorry, but your reasoning is not definite too, who do you call
a tax payer? Did you just call the payments church members make to their churches contribution?

Yes it is contribution
It is not payment for any goods.

Do u have a more definite reasoning?

ooshinibos:


Nobody is against regulation , the problem here is that Nigerian government is not credible , they cannot even regulate themselves ..you cannot even compare Nigeria to a civilized country ..by the way NGO pays taxes in UK and America when they reach a certain threshold , for example is if a pastor is earning above 25000 pounds the income is taxed ,evident charitable projects are not taxed ..donations to help the poor e.g. food banks are not taxed

The Nigerian government's incompetence isn't relevant. You might as well proscribe SON, or NAFDAC, or every other regulatory agency because Nigerian government "cannot even regulate themselves". And you're coming to my point that churches that are supposed to be NGO's shouldn't be allowed unfettered profits. Nigeria has some of the richest pastors in the world because this environment is ripe for maximum exploitation by churches.

felixomor:

Yes it is contribution
It is not payment for any goods.

Do u have a more definite reasoning?

Churches do not solicit tithes as "contributions". They solicit tithes basically as their entitlements and evoke the imagery of "robbery" (as their favourite Malachi quote states) for any members who do not pay and also promote tithes as some kind of covenant (basically a personal investment) that would reap rich harvests for payers. It's basically a compulsive, overwhelming arm-twisting scam.

Fleewpeed:
Why will a non-profit organisation pay tax

Hehehehehe!

Obi1kenobi:


Churches do not solicit tithes as "contributions". They solicit tithes basically as their entitlements and evoke the imagery of "robbery" (as their favourite Malachi quote states) for any members who do not pay and also promote tithes as some kind of covenant (basically a personal investment) that would reap rich harvests for payers. It's basically a compulsive, overwhelming arm-twisting scam.

There are several people who go to church and dont pay nada.
So your "entitlement" narrative lacks reason.

these are simply your own opinion borne out of anti church sentiments. It doesn't change the fact on ground.

PrecisionFx:



An earning is an earning, An income. is an income.


In developed nations every earning or income is taxed.

That is not true at all. In pretty much every country in the world non-profits and religious organizations are never taxed. The personal income of the people that work there can be taxed but the organization itself is exempt from taxes.

felixomor:

There are several people who go to church and dont pay nada.
So your "entitlement" narrative lacks reason.

these are simply your own opinion borne out of anti church sentiments. It doesn't change the fact on ground.

Not in most new generation churches. Dem go don shame you tire. I once visited a Pentecostal church that my aunt took my dad to before his eye surgery. The money those people ensured they took from our pockets........I went to that church just once and on my only day there, the pastor made sure she basically shamed me into making a pledge for their church development fund. It's delusional pretending these things don't happen. I'm not some stranger from Afghanistan. I've lived in Nigeria all my life and know a thing or two about how churches operate and fleece their flock.

Obi1kenobi:


Not in most new generation churches. Dem go don shame you tire. I once visited a Pentecostal church that my aunt took my dad to before his eye surgery. The money those people ensured they took from our pockets........I went to that church just once and on my only day there, the pastor made sure she basically shamed me into making a pledge for their church development fund. It's delusional pretending these things don't happen. I'm not some stranger from Afghanistan. I've lived in Nigeria all my life and know a thing or two about how churches operate and fleece their flock.

And then you used your aunty's church to make sample and conclude for the whole Nigeria.
Abegi

felixomor:

And then you used your aunty's church to make sample and conclude for the whole Nigeria.
Abegi

No. I used my entire experience with churches in Nigeria as a basis. I only listed that as an example of the antics churches get up to. You're the one burying your head in the sand about what is evident reality.

hopefulLandlord:
Religious belief is an invisible security blanket for insecure individuals.

Closeted minds will continue to allow brainwashing and indoctrination by religious leaders that there is a 'god', and there was a 'jesus', in order that the people with closed minds allow themselves to be controlled so that the various Corporations (churches) remain profitable as the tax-free money continues to roll in.

I'm still baffled that with so much advance in tech, a lot of people still refuse to drop things that are obsolete no longer useful.

Fleewpeed:
Why will a non-profit organisation pay tax

why will a non governmental organization run a private university? and also running at an higher fees not making it accessible to the poor member.

Obi1kenobi:


The Nigerian government's incompetence isn't relevant. You might as well proscribe SON, or NAFDAC, or every other regulatory agency because Nigerian government "cannot even regulate themselves". And you're coming to my point that churches that are supposed to be NGO's shouldn't be allowed unfettered profits. Nigeria has some of the richest pastors in the world because this environment is ripe for maximum exploitation by churches.

off course the Nigerian government competence is relevant , very relevant , for example , for civilized countries were NGOs are regulated , the government there provides a service to NGOs for examples , tax credits , tax exempts , gift aid donations etc , this gives the government credible authority to investigates the NGOs accounts ..and they do so .
In Nigeria , the churches or NGOs fend for themselves ,no government input whatsoever , so that's why the government cant regulate or tax them , its very simple Obi1kenobi

Obi1kenobi:


The Nigerian government's incompetence isn't relevant. You might as well proscribe SON, or NAFDAC, or every other regulatory agency because Nigerian government "cannot even regulate themselves". And you're coming to my point that churches that are supposed to be NGO's shouldn't be allowed unfettered profits. Nigeria has some of the richest pastors in the world because this environment is ripe for maximum exploitation by churches.

you make me laugh Obi1kenobi , Government cant even regulate Nairaland and they want to regulate NGOs , you got to be kidding me

yes

Desyner:
Your subtle trap is detected. Jesus command his follower to pay and not the Church body. Two different things. And Jesus' commandment does not apply to muslims mr man.

Jesus commanded his followers, is the pastor not a follower of christ. Is he not heading the property of christ, so i see no reason why the church can't pay. Mind u,wen we call the church, we mean the pastors pls. It is the law of the land.

Obi1kenobi:


[s]No. I used my entire experience with churches in Nigeria as a basis. I only listed that as an example of the antics churches get up to. You're the one burying your head in the sand about what is evident reality[/s].

There is only one big reality here
Your anti church sentiments will never go any where taxing the church.
Live with it.

Fleewpeed:
Why will a non-profit organisation pay tax

there is a serious need to redefine the term "non- profit organization"

Pacecar:

Jesus commanded his followers, is the pastor not a follower of christ. Is he not heading the property of christ, so i see no reason why the church can't pay. Mind u,wen we call the church, we mean the pastors pls. It is the law of the land.

Is the church a property of the pastor ?
So 'pastor = church' ? I hope 'BH = muslims' also?

Yes.
Nigeria pastors are criminals accept TB JOSHUA .
Government deserve to collect tax from them.

They Are not for profit, they dont declare profit any money they collect is solely to spread the gospel around the world but you can tax their workers via income tax and you will still reap billions of naira. Also, their businesses like schools, banks are taxable but Nigeria as a whole is virgin territory for taxation.

Not only churches, all religious institutions including mosques should be taxed......95% tax, there should also be an agency to regulate religious institutions the way CBN regulates banks. Such regulations should include compulsory quarterly financial audits

ooshinibos:

off course the Nigerian government competence is relevant , very relevant , for example , for civilized countries were NGOs are regulated , the government there provides a service to NGOs for examples , tax credits , tax exempts , gift aid donations etc , this gives the government credible authority to investigates the NGOs accounts ..and they do so .
In Nigeria , the churches or NGOs fend for themselves ,no government input whatsoever , so that's why the government cant regulate or tax them , its very simple Obi1kenobi

u dont even understand what u are talking about. How can u talk of tax credit when no tax is being charged

obstead200:
u dont even understand what u are talking about. How can u talk of tax credit when no tax is being charged

it just an example of services that he Government can make available to NGOs like in the civilized countries, for example Nigerian government charges VAT on some of the goods sold in Nigeria , that can provide tax exemption for NGOs this will give them the credibility to check the accounts of NGO ..right now Nigerian government is offering no services to NGO or even their own citizens and that's why NGOs are not accountable to them .. .
obstead200 you have to think outside the box before you can understand what's we are saying here o :-)

bakbayus:
Why do the Government imposes tax? I want to believe dat, its simply because they don't want any institution to be bigger or richer than the Country.

Very wrong answer.

sogud:


ur qtion sound stupid...... wat concern d house of God wit tax, dos d hse of God luk lyk an office or wer pple wrk to earn monthly salary..u beta go n ask for forgiveness b4 u lay curse on ursef.....Haba nxt tym t
ink wel b4 postin rubbish on nairalannd...
u re d typ dat lyk inflictin prob on churches..
Bewarn

It obviously look like an office. Some have receptions. Lol!

Champele:
It obviously look like an office. Some have receptions. Lol!

hahaha reception u must fill form

charlsecy:
Very wrong answer.

tenx boss kindly enlighten me. By d way love d maturity in ur response

obstead200:
there is a serious need to redefine the term "non- profit organization"

true that

felixomor:
The people donating money to church have already payed tax.
You cant tax contribution of tax payers who have already payed tax.

Try to reason it properly. Ok

I paid tax. I wonder why I pay tax on a bottle of beer, and why the beer seller pays tax too?!

church money is to spread the gospel to unbelievers, that is the problem. church money is to spread tales that a virgin gave birth and jesus is coming soon! You cant tax them but you can make what they do unconstitutional and thereby disband them