Froshloaded:
Makydebbie, all I said on that thread was just for fun..

Don't take anything serious...

I'm sorry if you are pissed

makydebbie:


Nothing is funny about rape abeg.
It's not about me, it's about you learning a drunk woman isn't in her right frame to give consent so you just leave her alone.

Personally, I mostly ask out thrice and that's it. I hardly can remember anytime when I had to do a lot of chasing.

But some ladies do prefer you chase and chase and chase. So for most Nigerian men, they go all the way. I know a few ladies have told me I just wanted to have sex with them, and wasn't serious cos I didn't continue chasing.

You are you. Some women love the chase. So it isn't about men leaving the conversation when women are talking about it. Men also have experiences to share.

Obsession and consent are two separate things. You attempted to tie a man's continuous chasing of a woman to consent or so. And I am saying it's doesn't correlate.

I remember you, Poco, the Hawk and I had a time we bantered a lot. Poco and I are really cool, offline and online. I am cool with the Hawk. Surprised you are still holding onto that. It wasn't that serious.

makydebbie:


Hy Zicoraads I think the other thread has been locked or something.

I've always rebuked ladies for doing the chase thing because it sends mixed signals to men. I've always encouraged ladies to stop making men chase them to avoid misinterpretation.

I still stand by my word because mostly women are victims of these things, show me one man amdd I'll show you hundred women, so when the victims are talking we can only learn. When a fat woman is talking about fatphobia, I cannot say anything on it because I'm skinny and I don't experience fatphobia, I'm not a victim, I can only listen and learn. I don't know if you still get me it's all about reading the room.


Obession and consent work in hand. If there's no consent then we can call it obsession so I think you were wrong there. The absence of consent makes it harassment and obsession.


It's not really a thing for me but I remember every account that trolled me so getting mentions from them gives me ptsd and me wondering what you're about to tell me since I've known you for trolling me.

zicoraads:

I mostly kiss and make up afterwards, hardly ever take it that serious. I remember engaging you on your birthday post, where you posted about exiting teaching to go back to school, no? That was long after we bantered right? In my mind, it never happened. I apologize if you felt different and still do.

I still can't wrap my head around the word 'consent' and my asking you consistently to go out with me or even have a relationship with me. Harassment? Totally yes.

I have read a lot of laws both locally and internationally on the question of consent and I haven't seen anywhere that the word is used in relation to asking a woman out.

I have seen harassment, but not consent. To my own understanding and what I think is generally acceptable, consent relates to sexual activity.

Constantly asking out in such a way that it becomes a problem is harassment. Which is why when a lady reports, a restraining order is often granted. But when you report sexual harassment, the question of consent is usually asked and if none was given, then the accused is often sentenced according to the offence of rape.

I will be happy to see a different view, if you have any journal or essay to refute what I know relates to consent.