vaxx:
Nigeria is not a zoo.....pls stop painting my father land black......it is we the individual that are turning against the fundamental law of God(love)....



Who religion don EPP?

Religion don help the world as a society....some of the first societies to arise were based solely around a common religion. Without religion, it would have been extremely unlikely for humans to find any cultural common ground. Most early tribal peoples would have driven each other to extinction based on the belief that one group must be superior than the other. Religion provided the belief that humans are under a deity, and therefore equal (In the case of most religions).

Religion don help nigeria greatly...many benefits in our society exist today due to prevalent of religion...it provides a sense of unity for communities and most religions provide charity services at no expense to the state or the tax payer. Churches, Mosques, temple, and other forms of voluntary institutions are simply more able to provide aid to those in need than individuals or governments.

musicwriter:

That's how you got your Christianity and Islam spread from Europe and Arabia, respectively. These two religions are responsible for killing more people than deaths of first and second world war put together.

ScepticalPyrrho:

You don't believe in a personal God? And...
You're a deist?

These are contradicting statements.

KingEbukasBlog:
2. Japan

In 2009, an official survey showed that over half the Japanese families had a "butsudan" or Buddhist altar in their homes. A 2009 data from the Agency of Cultural Affairs stated that there were 89 million Buddhists in Japan. In 2011, Usa Today reported that 90% of the Japanese identified as Buddhist or Shinto or a combination of both.


Population: 127 million (2016)

superhumanist:


People are right when they say that you do not read before you comment. Japanese will follow 2 opposite religions just for cultural sake.

They are not religious. Shintoism and buddhism are two different religions, how then can one practise both?

Japanese are not religious- they are born shinto, have buddhists rites and then have christian weddings Culture not religion

KingEbukasBlog:


The Shinto religion has been part of the Japan since ancient times even up till now before Buddhism and other religions came along . Some see the Shinto religion as a lifestyle which does not require membership and not an organized religion that's why they came out as non-religious . The same issue with Confucianism and Christianity . Some consider these religions as a way of life and consider themselves as non-religious . This is why Wikipedia labelled less than 40 percent of the Japanese population as religious or part of organized religion .

In Japan alone , Shinto has 81,000 shrines and 85,000 priests in the country

superhumanist:

Shintoism and buddhism are two different religions, how then can one practise both?

KingEbukasBlog:
Please beware of false information on this forum by atheists

1. China

According to Yang and Hu (2012) , 55.5% of the adult population (15+) of China, or 578 million people in absolute numbers, believe and practice folk religions, including a 20% who practice ancestor religion or communal worship of deities .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_folk_religion#Demographics

And this is just the population that deals with traditional religions in China like Han folk religion and Confucianism . The remaining population comprises of Christians , Muslims , Buddhist and other religions

In the same China , by 2030, China's total Christian population, including Catholics, would exceed 247 million, placing it above Mexico, Brazil and the United States as the largest Christian congregation in the world, he predicted.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html

superhumanist:



Sir, please learn to read before you post. 247 million to a billion is 24%. China is irreligious and its communist party is irreligious. China will always be majorly irreligious. Your post does not negate the original point in the op. Or are you unseriously trying to argue that china is more christian or will be more christian than irreligious?

Sir please, kindly think before you post.

superhumanist:



Sir, please learn to read before you post. 247 million to a billion is 24%.

KingEbukasBlog:


You can conflate the two especially when they are in harmony with each other . Just the same way that as a Christian I've come some very interesting beliefs in Taoism like the wei wu , a way of showing calmness and not carried away by turbulence and letting things work themselves out by doing nothing . Just like the bible tells you to show sangfroid when you are in a difficult position because God is with you .

superhumanist:


Sir, are you a specialist in lies? Shintoism and Buddhism are very different.

superhumanist:


Sir, are you a specialist in lies? Shintoism and Buddhism are very different.

JackBizzle:


Kingebukasblog does not read any fact contrary to his opinions. The fact is that Japanese people follow religion culturally. They are not religious.

How can a person be born shinto, marry with church wedding and buried with buddhist rites?

Leave the fool to argue that Japanese are religious.

superhumanist:



What they say about him is true. He is even trying to lie that Buddhism and Shintoism are in harmony. They both have any contradictory beliefs

I'll let him deceive himself. Even his quote does not support him.

musicwriter:


The bolded part is exactly the opposite!. To give you the Christianity you cherish so much, Europeans had to go across the globe converting people to Christianity by force, and killing people who refused to convert. That's what the crusades were all about. They had crusades 1, crusades 2,crusades 3, to 9. After that it was the inquisitions. It was the same thing, converting people by force and killing anybody who didn't believe what they believe.

Islam did that also.

That's how you got your Christianity and Islam spread from Europe and Arabia, respectively. These two religions are responsible for killing more people than deaths of first and second world war put together.

KingEbukasBlog:


You have a snippet of a Japanese website that clearly stated that they are in harmony and that there Japanese people who identify as both Shintoists and Buddhists . I gave you an example with one of Taoism's beliefs that appears to be congruent with a Christian belief to show how some religious beliefs can be in harmony .

Very close-minded and delusional I see . Deists are usually logical and mentally fluid but you are a direct opposite of who they are . I think you are an atheist who purports himself as a deist .

superhumanist:



Sir, I believe that you are a mature man who shouldn't be dishonest and so, why are you doing this? Is it because I didnt want to bother correcting your huge lies?

Okay, I will correct you once and for all. Here is the full quote of the source you posted which both contradicts you and shows how you omitted the part that says that Japanese are not religious-

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6141327_japanesereligion_jpeg2f807a2f521a61d75a77db2863772634


Why would you omit that second paragraph if you are not lying by omission?

superhumanist:
With my above post, kingebukasblog, do you still want to claim that japanese are religious when even your own source says that "Religion does not play a big role in the everyday life of most Japanese people today"?


Hoisted with your own petard

vaxx:
if you could understand my post.I stated religion provided the dogma that each one of us as imduvidal are under a deity and therefore equal as human....


I am a traditionalist, therefore I am not inclusive In your theory...

superhumanist:



Sir, I believe that you are a mature man who shouldn't be dishonest and so, why are you doing this? Is it because I didnt want to bother correcting your huge lies?

Okay, I will correct you once and for all. Here is the full quote of the source you posted which both contradicts you and shows how you omitted the part that says that Japanese are not religious-

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6141327_japanesereligion_jpeg2f807a2f521a61d75a77db2863772634


Why would you omit that second paragraph if you are not lying by omission?

JackBizzle:



Did you even see where he said that you are an atheist pretending to be a deist? Kingebukasblog's lies have now reached mind-reading! He has this obsession with deists because he cant defend his christian god and so, he argues for a deist god.


Shame

KingEbukasBlog:



1.Goalpost shifting spotted . The argument was on if the Japanese were both Buddhists and Shintoists. And the source clearly noted that most Japanese are either Shintoists , Buddhists or both .

2.I also explained why Japanese don't consider themselves as religious



Your irrationality and close-mindedness exposed again

superhumanist:


-60% of the population of Japanese are atheists but 155% are religious as people follow 2 or more religions culturally.
http://www.religionfacts.com/japan

JackBizzle:



A traditionalist? Your religion did nothing to stop the white man from enslaving us. Religion is a waste mennnnn

superhumanist:


A deist believes in god but not a personal god. I believe that there is a mighty being that created the universe but he or she is not petty enough to be concerned with the actions of puny humans

vaxx:
if you could understand my post.I stated religion provided the dogma that each one of us as imduvidal are under a deity and therefore equal as human....


I am a traditionalist, therefore I am not inclusive In your theory...

superhumanist:



My brother, let us not lie to ourselves. Religion is a problem and not a solution as far as Nigeria is concerned. The way we practice religion in Nigeria is just too much.

Go and see christians in Europe. They mind their business. They mostly do not tithe. Churches there dont disturb peace with loudspeakers and they pay tax. They are very discreet with miracles. They actually do proper charity that helps (not just giving bags of rice).

lindabon:


Not completely true my dear. I live in the UK, and there is a church close to me that disturbs oo. But guess what, its a Nigerian Church.

ScepticalPyrrho:

Why would you believe it's a mighty being and not beings?

I believe your line of thought is still influenced by your former belief.

When you say it is a being what picture of it do you have in mind?

If a being created this existence, how did it exist in the first place?

You need to take your scepticism a little further, if your intent is to be objective.

Is this universe part of the being or not? If not...
Where did it get the materials from?
If yes? Can we say there is a being or we are the being?
If we are the being, is it still right to say "there is a mighty being"?

Being a deist is just a safe landing... You can still get a little further, till you realize that every position about the universe appeals to our nature to know, and there is no known answer, but mere speculations. This is where it gets twisted, and I see no shame in admitting that we are ignorant of the facts no matter the belief which we end up accepting.