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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:50pm On Jan 29, 2015
andrewza:


Does Nigeria even keep proper record of murders, road deaths and rapes. He'll do you even have had many cars has us.



Nope, Nigeria does not keep records of anything.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:53pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Your own source says US hired mercenaries from many countries, not only South Africa, and it includes mercenaries from Fiji and Colombia, if a tiny Fiji Island Nation is ranked along with South Africa....Yiu should bury your head in the sand of shame grin grin


"US tax dollars aren't just going to South AFrican killers. They're going to mercenaries from Fiji, Nepal, Colombia and who knows where else.

Indeed, While Fiji, Nepal, Colombia and other nations supply large contingents of guards to the U.S. war effort somewhat openly"
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SA mercenaries were more than any other mercenaries in all US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even getting paid more than US troops.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:54pm On Jan 29, 2015
FighterPilot:



Beware of China, it will suck your blood dry.

Yet you Southies boast here that South Africa is proudly a member of BRICS manufacturing nations along with the same China that you ridicule, means your BRICS group of 5 nations is a gathering of junk manufacturers grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:56pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Yet you Southies boast here that South Africa is proudly a member of BRICS manufacturing nations along with the same China that you ridicule, means your BRICS group of 5 nations is a gathering of junk manufacturers grin
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Being partners does not mean we should patronise their products. Instead we've helped them in many projects.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:58pm On Jan 29, 2015
patches689:


If they are undergoing duties related to their service how are they dead?

Nigeria has no missile armed frigates alive

Who has the strongest navy in sub-Saharan Africa?

This thread is STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA....not sub sahara....So Egypt, Algeria, Morocco have the best 3 navies in Africa.

SAN cannot patrol and catch one single pirate in Mozambique, all your frigates and submarines are broken down except one each.

Strongest is relative, SAN cannot match NN in maritime security enforcement, nobody is shooting missiles at sea in the world today
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:59pm On Jan 29, 2015
patches689:


We have 4 frigates for war

SAN has only one Frigates for war today

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:02pm On Jan 29, 2015
patches689:


Taliban only controlls 4 districts out of 373
http://www.cfr.org/afghanistan/taliban-afghanistan/p10551

NATO won

Its time for the Afghan army to fight its own war

NATO is withdrawing with 50% of Afghanistan under Taliban control grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:04pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


This thread is STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA....not sub sahara....So Egypt, Algeria, Morocco have the best 3 navies in Africa.

SAN cannot patrol and catch one single pirate in Mozambique, all your frigates and submarines are broken down except one each.

Strongest is relative, SAN cannot match NN in maritime security enforcement, nobody is shooting missiles at sea in the world today
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There are no pirates in Mozambique - because we are there

The status of Frigates and Subs is not permanent - its just at this point in time the maintenance of 2 other frigates has overlapped.

Sometimes 1 is operational, sometimes 2 and every now and then 3. Depends on what the Navy plans to have operational for its needs.

And again, SAN is not only composed of frigates.

And, in terms of warfighting ability, NN is centuries behind the SAN
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:05pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


SAN has only one Frigates for war today

And that will change tomorrow.

We have 4 frigates in service

Facts are facts
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:05pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


NATO is withdrawing with 50% of Afghanistan under Taliban control grin grin
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4 out of 373 = 50%

Lol, there is that Nigerian education you brag about again!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:06pm On Jan 29, 2015
patches689:


It simply says taht South Africans were present

- it doesnt say SANDF
- it doesnt say in what capacity (students or instructors)


Nigerian military college, we instruct there !

Report says South African COIN operatives....your officers in charge of your COIN operations were trained by Nigerian army experts

Source clearly says :

A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:08pm On Jan 29, 2015
andrewza:


Does Nigeria even keep proper record of murders, road deaths and rapes. He'll do you even have had many cars has us.

Google it, Nigeria keeps records, 774 police stations collect report from each of the 774 Local Governments including villages
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:09pm On Jan 29, 2015
FighterPilot:


Nope, Nigeria does not keep records of anything.

Prove it !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:09pm On Jan 29, 2015
Nigeria must pay huge sum of money if they really want to use the services of the best mercenaries in the world (South Africa).

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:11pm On Jan 29, 2015
FighterPilot:


Being partners does not mean we should patronise their products. Instead we've helped them in many projects.

About 80% of products in South African nation are made in China ! You are Chinese economic colony grin

https://www.uea.ac.uk/documents/439774/0/Edwards+Jenjkins+SALDRU.pdf/82f05bfc-bf8b-4af1-b843-bb522695c6d6
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:12pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


SAN has only one Frigates for war today

Define ready for war. If it war then we have 2. SAN runs on very strict standards. According to civlian standards just about all our ships are sea worthy. But to us we need the primary system and all the back ups working. If one bilge allarm is broken the ship can't deploy. All the engines, pumps, genorators, extra have to work for us to deploy. This high standard is of course can be ignored if the situation is dire enough.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:13pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Nigerian military college, we instruct there !

Report says South African COIN operatives....your officers in charge of your COIN operations were trained by Nigerian army experts

Source clearly says :

A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.


I really pity that single SA who went for a course in Nigerian military college. However, the source said other countries were merely invited to come and help with ideas and information.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:13pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


About 80% of products in South African nation are made in China ! You are Chinese economic colony grin

https://www.uea.ac.uk/documents/439774/0/Edwards+Jenjkins+SALDRU.pdf/82f05bfc-bf8b-4af1-b843-bb522695c6d6
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Did you even read the artical you just posted?

They are talking about China pushing our products off the shelves of other countries in sub-saharan African

Your incompetence is astounding
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:14pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


SAN has only one Frigates for war today

Tomorrow they will be four.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:20pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


About 80% of products in South African nation are made in China ! You are Chinese economic colony grin

https://www.uea.ac.uk/documents/439774/0/Edwards+Jenjkins+SALDRU.pdf/82f05bfc-bf8b-4af1-b843-bb522695c6d6
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China is merely being used for production by Europe countries. Majority of what they produce are in fact not Chinese products.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 5:23pm On Jan 29, 2015
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agaugust:


Google it, Nigeria keeps records, 774 police stations collect report from each of the 774 Local Governments including villages
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774 for 160+ million people?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:34pm On Jan 29, 2015
andrewza:
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774 for 160+ million people?

Nope, some local governments have 50 police stations. Size of the local governents vary, some have 1 million people some have 10,000 people.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:37pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Google it, Nigeria keeps records, 774 police stations collect report from each of the 774 Local Governments including villages
.


Nigeria keeps stats of only what they want to keep.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:40pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, some local governments have 50 police stations. Size of the local governents vary, some have 1 million people some have 10,000 people.

Nigerian police stations are very tiny, some are just the size of a one room apartment.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:45pm On Jan 29, 2015
The Chadian troops have helped recover Nigerian town from BH, something which Nigerian troops have been failing to do.


http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31038579

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:46pm On Jan 29, 2015
patches689:


Did you even read the artical you just posted?

They are talking about China pushing our products off the shelves of other countries in sub-saharan African

Your incompetence is astounding

Nope, your own illiteracy is staggering grin grin

The article talks about Chinese products flooding into South Africa and killing your weaker economy, your people love to use made in China grin

I quote from the article :

3. Chinese‐South Africa Trade Flows
3.1 Growth and Structure of Chinese‐South Africa Trade

Trade between South Africa and China has grown dramatically since China joined the WTO in 2001.  

South African imports from China increased from less than $1.1 billion in 2001 to $14.2 billion in 2011.

Throughout the period, South Africa has run a trade deficit with China which tended to increase over time, as shown in Figure 1


Chinese products are now colonizing South African cities all over your country grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:53pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, your own illiteracy is staggering grin grin

The article talks about Chinese products flooding into South Africa and killing your weaker economy, your people love to use made in China grin

I quote from the article :

3. Chinese‐South Africa Trade Flows
3.1 Growth and Structure of Chinese‐South Africa Trade

Trade between South Africa and China has grown dramatically since China joined the WTO in 2001.  

South African imports from China increased from less than $1.1 billion in 2001 to $14.2 billion in 2011.

Throughout the period, South Africa has run a trade deficit with China which tended to increase over time, as shown in Figure 1


Chinese products are now colonizing South African cities all over your country grin
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Do you even know what a trade deficit is?

Let me explain:

- they buy 1 thing from us
- we buy 2 things from them

We now have a trade deficit of 1.

It has nothing to do with what you are saying you troglodyte

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:15pm On Jan 29, 2015
FighterPilot:


Nigerian police stations are very tiny, some are just the size of a one room apartment.
imfene,some american police stations are also the size of a retail kiosk.it all depends on the size,location and population of the local community they are overseeing.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:35pm On Jan 29, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:39pm On Jan 29, 2015
EVarn:
imfene,some american police stations are also the size of a retail kiosk.it all depends on the size,location and population of the local community they are overseeing.

But they look neat though.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:46pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, your own illiteracy is staggering grin grin

The article talks about Chinese products flooding into South Africa and killing your weaker economy, your people love to use made in China grin

I quote from the article :

3. Chinese‐South Africa Trade Flows
3.1 Growth and Structure of Chinese‐South Africa Trade

Trade between South Africa and China has grown dramatically since China joined the WTO in 2001.  

South African imports from China increased from less than $1.1 billion in 2001 to $14.2 billion in 2011.

Throughout the period, South Africa has run a trade deficit with China which tended to increase over time, as shown in Figure 1


Chinese products are now colonizing South African cities all over your country grin
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Exactly which products are colonizing us. Made in China does not translate into suggesting that the brand is from China.

Adidas, Nike or Puma know very well that China has manpower and you only have to pay them cheap to produce your product faster than a lightning.

Unfortunately for me, I.have nothing in my house that is a China product, other than a European company producing their products using Chinese cheap labour.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:57pm On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:






So why is your own South African source not telling lies? SANDF has denied knowledge of it, and Nigerian army has denied knowledge of it tongue

"The SA National Defence Force on Monday said it was unaware of former South African soldiers being deployed to Nigeria to help destroy terrorist group Boko Haram.

"I do not know where Beeld gets this thing from. Ask them," SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said.

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/01/27/sandf-unaware-of-soldiers-in-nigeria


"When contacted yesterday, the Nigeria Defence spokesman Major General Chris Olukolade said, "It is well known that terrorism being an international and trans/cross border menace calls for the involvement of all well meaning countries all over the world."

He added that: "In this case I'm only aware of partner countries whose activities have been mainly in the form exchange of ideas and support to ongoing training activities."

Olukolade also said: "The conduct of Nigeria's counter terrorism campaign remains exclusively an all Nigerian troops affairs. This is the much I know and can discuss."

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201501281248.html/

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That's true SANDF know nothing about them because they are free citizens who are not contracted to work for SANDF. They do not account to SANDF so why should they make their whereabout known to SANDF? Mercenary service is banned in SA, of course they wouldn't want everyone to know about their destination. However, the beeld newspaper which always uncover secret operations in SA reported about the whereabouts of SA mercenaries. They are now exposed.

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