SA to return $15 million confiscated botched arms deal money to the newly elected government of Nigeria because of their special relationship to Buhari.


http://m.mg.co.za/article/2015-04-09-jacob-zumas-cash-plan-to-schmooze-nigeria

Let's hope Dokubos threat to go back to the creeks doesn't materialise, that will spell total destruction of Nigeria.

I wonder what were the weapons that were supposed to be
bought in SA during the 11million dollar saga meant for, we know Dokubo was one of the people said to be present in the jet detained in SA.

Were they preparing for a Buhari presidency.

Anyway, let's hope things don't turn ugly.

Niger Delta Militant Leader Ateke, Has A Massage For Buhari

Ex-militant and leader of the Niger Delta Vigilante (NDV), Ateke Tom, has said former militant leaders in the Niger Delta region are ready to work with the President-Elect, General Muhammadu Buhari.

Ateke, who disclosed this while speaking in pidgin english to newsmen at Okochiri in Rivers State, urged Gen. Buhari to invite leaders of genuine militant camps to discuss on how to move the region forward.

In his words, “I am here to congratulate Buhari for his victory. We will want good leadership; we thank God that Buhari is now our President and we pray God Almighty to give him wisdom to rule our country. Since Buhari is now our President, we want him to meet with the core leaders of the Niger Delta struggle; I mean the real leaders in the struggle.

“He should call the real leaders and talk to them. Let us discuss on our needs. He should also not forget the Amnesty Programme, because we know what we fought for and that was why they gave us Amnesty. We did not get the Amnesty Programme from the backyard. So, let him keep to the programme. Let the Amnesty Programme function well and we will like it. We are ready to work with Buhari.”

The former militant leader said none of the former agitators in the region will go back to the creeks.

Ateke said, “Some people are saying they want to go back to the creek, or they want to blow up pipelines; no, I, Ateke Tom will not be part of that, we don’t need all those things and nobody will go back to the creeks. I have a say in the Niger Delta and I am one of the top fighters; so nobody will go back to the creeks. I advice the youths not to follow anybody back to the creeks.

“We should not say because there is change of government and Buhari is now the President, and somebody wants to go back to the creeks; what are you going there to do? So, let nobody follow anybody to the creeks. What we want is that let Buhari meet us and treat us well.”

http://naijaurbanonline.com/niger-delta-militant-leader-ateke-message-buhari/buhari-ateke-tom-naijaurbanonline/

osystein:
Ibrahim Index of African Governance

nuff said. SA is head and shoulders above Naija when it comes to governing.

1 Mauritius81.7+1.3
2 Cabo Verde76.6+1.3
3 Botswana76.2+1.3
4 South Africa73.3+0.5
5 Seychelles73.2+2.7
6 Namibia70.3+1.1
7 Ghana68.2+1.6
8 Tunisia66.0+2.2
9 Senegal64.3+4.6
10 Lesotho62.3+3.8
11 Rwanda60.4+4.6
12 São Tomé & Príncipe59.7+4.4
13 Zambia59.4+3.1
14 Morocco58.8+2.9
15 Tanzania58.2-1.7
16 Malawi57.6+1.9
17 Kenya57.4+4.1
18 Benin56.7-3.5
19 Uganda56.1+1.0
20 Algeria54.4+1.4
21 Burkina Faso53.3-1.7
22 Mozambique52.2-2.2
23 Gambia51.6-0.9
24 Swaziland51.5+1.3
25 Sierra Leone51.1+3.9
26 Egypt51.1-8.0
27 Gabon51.0+2.0
28 Mali49.5-5.7
29 Niger49.4+5.5
30 Comoros49.3+0.3
31 Liberia49.3+3.4
32 Ethiopia48.5+2.1
33 Madagascar48.2-1.1
34 Cameroon47.6+1.5
35 Djibouti46.8+0.7
36 Togo46.4+2.8
37 Nigeria45.8+0.6
38 Burundi45.3-0.1
39 Mauritania44.5+0.8
40 Côte d'Ivoire44.3+7.8
41 Congo43.4+3.1
42 Guinea43.3+6.5
43 Libya42.1-7.4
44 Angola40.9+0.3
45 Equatorial Guinea38.4+0.1
46 Zimbabwe38.0+5.4
47 Democratic Republic of Congo
34.1+0.8
48 Guinea-Bissau33.2-6.8
49 Chad32.3+2.5
50 Eritrea29.8-2.8
51 Central African Republic24.8
-6.2
52 Somalia8.6+0.5

Who in their right mind would even dare compare ZA to Nigeria in Governance terms .Nigeria has ALOT of catching up to do in that regard. but then again as highly ranked as ZA it is faced by troubles(just like any other society) but those troubles by no means mean that they are badly(badly in a wider African context and the index proves so) managed as people might lead themselves to believe on this thread.The ANC government isint perfect but it is getting the job done and South Africans being as vocal as they are they will NOT settle for less from their government and they will continuously complain and object to ANY drop in standards and that has given an impression that ZA 'is' or 'belongs' at the bottom of the list.

Msauza:


It is a fact that SA has the best defence industry in Africa. If you don't know that look at Sipri to see which African country is in the top 20 arms exporter.

Defence industry is manufacturing, not exporting. You are talking about overseas sales instead of industrial production.

The biggest and best defence industry in Africa is Egypt, but their military is so big and powerful with millions of soldiers, that they absorb all their defence manufacturing into their armed forces and nothing left for export.

Egypt has manufactured about 1,000 main battle tanks, but South Africa has NEVER manufactured even 1 piece.

Egypt manufactured jet fighter engines but South Africa does not.

Egypt has manufactured over 10,000 guided missiles but South Africa is still 10 times far behind in numbers produced.

Egypt manufactures modern long range ballistic missiles designed locally at home and built at home, South Africa does not have any functioning ballistic missile in it's arsenal and has NOT produced a modern ICBM in history.

The best and biggest defence industry in Africa is that of Egypt, but they don't go on internet and boast like the empty barrel called South Africa

FACT !!
.

Admiral16:


Who in their right mind would even dare compare ZA to Nigeria in Governance terms .Nigeria has ALOT of catching up to do in that regard. but then again as highly ranked as ZA it is faced by troubles(just like any other society) but those troubles by no means mean that they are badly(badly in a wider African context and the index proves so) managed as people might lead themselves to believe on this thread.The ANC government isint perfect but it is getting the job done and South Africans being as vocal as they are they will NOT settle for less from their government and they will continuously complain and object to ANY drop in standards and that has given an impression that ZA 'is' or 'belongs' at the bottom of the list.

What all these ratings show is how much potential Naija has, if we're already so strong despite the poor governance and infrastructure problems, no one will touch Naija when both of those are rectified.

agaugust:


Defence industry is manufacturing, not exporting. You are talking about overseas sales instead of industrial production.

The biggest and best defence industry in Africa is Egypt, but their military is so big and powerful with millions of soldiers, that they absorb all their defence manufacturing into their armed forces and nothing left for export.

Egypt has manufactured about 1,000 main battle tanks, but South Africa has NEVER manufactured even 1 piece.

Egypt manufactured jet fighter engines but South Africa does not.

Egypt has manufactured over 10,000 guided missiles but South Africa is still 10 times far behind in numbers produced.

Egypt manufactures modern long range ballistic missiles designed locally at home and built at home, South Africa does not have any functioning ballistic missile in it's arsenal and has NOT produced a modern ICBM in history.

The best and biggest defence industry in Africa is that of Egypt, but they don't go on internet and boast like the empty barrel called South Africa

FACT !!
.

It is only agaugust in his right mind in Africa who would not accept that SA has the best and most advanced defence industry in Africa. Egypt is not even an industrial country per set, it is still in the process of industrialising their country.


Arms experts declared SA as the most advanced defence industry in the global South and Africa.



http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/12/south-africas-arms-industry-advanced-global-south/

osystein:


What all these ratings show is how much potential Naija has, if we're already so strong despite the poor governance and infrastructure problems, no one will touch Naija when both of those are rectified.

True about that..Nigeria with its huge population has a lot of potential no denying that.But 'change' always meets resistance and overhauling will be no easy task.People benefiting from the loopholes of the system wont easily give up

Agaugust must just give me the equivalent of Egyptian arms company for the following:


112 Aerospace and defence companies database.


http://www.asdsource.com/source_advancesearch2.asp?pos=1&Keyword=&OrganisationType=&MainMarkets=&MainProducts=&Country=South%20Africa&letter=&MP=&MPt=

@Naijapikingidi

please seize from posting false info here, it'll be deleted.
That unfortunate video was not xenophobic violence, but vigilantism against local criminals, not foreigners
as claimed.
I don't see the point in posting these gruesome videos here, when there are worse from Naija.

Viral video shows vigilantism, not xenophobia - police
www.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Viral-video-shows-vigilantism-not-xenophobia-police-20150411

Now where are the South African foul-mouths and leprous-fingers!
VICE on NA's behalf deals a TKO. Una no fit talk again?



NA strolling!

NaijaPikinGidi:
Now where are the South African foul-mouths and leprous-fingers!
VICE on NA's behalf deals a TKO. Una no fit talk again?



NA strolling!

Give us the website of that so that we can scrutinize it.

Henry120:


I know that.

@Henry, you might be right with the SU-30 prediction, since we are getting off the shelf ones, minimum of 8 I read on Beegs blog.

Tops, we should get visual confirmation in about 3 weeks.

agaugust:


Defence industry is manufacturing, not exporting. You are talking about overseas sales instead of industrial production.

The biggest and best defence industry in Africa is Egypt, but their military is so big and powerful with millions of soldiers, that they absorb all their defence manufacturing into their armed forces and nothing left for export.

Egypt has manufactured about 1,000 main battle tanks, but South Africa has NEVER manufactured even 1 piece.

Egypt manufactured jet fighter engines but South Africa does not.

Egypt has manufactured over 10,000 guided missiles but South Africa is still 10 times far behind in numbers produced.

Egypt manufactures modern long range ballistic missiles designed locally at home and built at home, South Africa does not have any functioning ballistic missile in it's arsenal and has NOT produced a modern ICBM in history.

The best and biggest defence industry in Africa is that of Egypt, but they don't go on internet and boast like the empty barrel called South Africa

FACT !!
.

SA produced ICBM with the help of Israel even before Egypt started thinking about them.

SA is undoubtedly most developed arms manufacturers in Africa, and Egypt does not even come any closer nor Nigeria. We have over hundred Defence industries, Monkey; and Egypt does not even have over five defence industries.

Msauza:



Give us the website of that so that we can scrutinize it.

You should have asked Patches to give you the link.

Those comments have taken such a brutal squeeze on your pain-points ... you this fake Enugu man ... Yet even if you are told your own native name you'll still always remain such a confused child of no nation.

I recommend you start with Part3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcEqAUIUY0

osystein:
@Naijapikingidi

please seize from posting false info here, it'll be deleted.
That unfortunate video was not xenophobic violence, but vigilantism against local criminals, not foreigners
as claimed.
I don't see the point in posting these gruesome videos here, when there are worse from Naija.

Viral video shows vigilantism, not xenophobia - police
www.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Viral-video-shows-vigilantism-not-xenophobia-police-20150411

Groping in the darkness of mind for some credibility! That is South Africa and a show of South Africa's inhumanity to humankind. No doubt about it.

Go ahead delete if you can.

NaijaPikinGidi:


Groping in the darkness of mind for some credibility! That is South Africa and a show of South Africa's inhumanity to humankind. No doubt about it.

Go ahead delete if you can.

That video is by far more better than the grievous acts committed by BH in humanity.

NaijaPikinGidi:


Groping in the darkness of mind for some credibility! That is South Africa and a show of South Africa's inhumanity to humankind. No doubt about it.

Go ahead delete if you can.

Well, those videos are gruesome, and ofcos they have nothing to do with xenophobia.

I know this forum, somebody will probably reply with an even more gruesome video from naija, and the thread will turn into a shithole.

pls keep the thread clean.

XENOPHOBIA SOUTH AFRICA (PLC)

=========
http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2015/xenophobiasouthafrica/index.html

osystein:


Well, those videos are gruesome, and ofcos they have nothing to do with xenophobia.

I know this forum, somebody will probably reply with an even more gruesome video from naija, and the thread will turn into a shithole.

pls keep the thread clean.

I wanted to respond with hundreds of thousands gruesome videos of Nigeria. Anyway, I leave it there because some people might not even be able to sleep after seeing them.

Henry120:


Nigeria has a rapidly growing infrastructural sector, and the country within the last 4 years has paved/built enough roads, that in length is half of planet earth.

Nigeria is also home to Africa's most Ambitious projects Eko-Atlantic city and Centenary city. Our Rail project was also named in one of the world's Top 10 projects largest projects.

Julius berger a Nigerian construction company is Africa's largest construction company.

South Africans won't google search those ones o, it's only Makoko and Ajegunle they will deliberately google find as if the slums in South Africa have disappeared yesterday
.
.

agaugust:


South Africans won't google search those ones o, it's only Makoko and Ajegunle they will deliberately google find as if the slums in South Africa have disappeared yesterday
.
.

RDP is clearing slums in SA like a wild fire. I saw from 2012 almost all the slums around Soweto have gone through thin air.

Which African navies are really capable??

EVarn:
Training and experience walk hand in hand,but on a scale of preference,experience beats training.
There are heavily trained field soldiers who freeze when they see battle.Battle simulations are quite different from real life combat,on the practice ground,the biggest fatality you can sustain is a nose bleed,broken bone,wounded pride and serious tongue lashing from your disgruntled superior.but is real combat,failure means death.That is why many soldiers,even though they've got training,tend to loose nerve in the middle of real action.Trainers can only teach the troops and hope for the best.
But experience is a rare attribute needed for a formidable armed force.Even without preliminary training,once you've got the experience,you've got the training needed.

Nice reply there bro.

Learning on the job like many technicians do without going to special schools. The white man calls it HANDS ON SKILLS AND CAPABILITY
.

osystein:


Well, those videos are gruesome, and ofcos they have nothing to do with xenophobia.

I know this forum, somebody will probably reply with an even more gruesome video from naija, and the thread will turn into a shithole.

pls keep the thread clean.

No doubt your comment above is a cowardly call to your blockhead brothers to go diggin' ... but ever seen a Nigerian back down from such a threat? Deal with your Xenophobic facts.

NaijaPikinGidi:


No doubt your comment above is a cowardly call to your blockhead brothers to go diggin' ... but ever seen a Nigerian back down from such a threat? Deal with your Xenophobic facts.

So, deal with your genocidal facts.

agaugust:


South Africans won't google search those ones o, it's only Makoko and Ajegunle they will deliberately google find as if the slums in South Africa have disappeared yesterday
.
.

You know why i shared these photos with you?

MikeCZAR:
whatever you're still behind.

It is sad when you Nigerian celebrate things we have been doing since the 80s.....

.....Thanks to 300 years uninterrupted white minority rule in South Africa

.

NaijaPikinGidi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlcEqAUIUY0

Views from the world over!! I hope our blockhead South Africans can now understand that khaki no be leather!! It takes an unbiased VICE (video) news reporting from our NE frontlines to demolish all the wrong perceptions, hate-mongering and propaganda peddled against Nigeria and the NA.

All I owe you is more of the outpouring of praises for Africa's top conventional War and COIN specialist Army - the NA.

They say we are "badasss" fighters!

Shaun sir !

Even Israeli army is now saluting Nigerian army o !

We did what NATO failed to do in Afghanistan for 13 years o !
.

Admiral16:
Which African navies are really capable??

Egypt
Algeria
Morocco
Nigeria
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.
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.
.
.
.
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South-Africa.
Kenya
Namibia

xwolverine:


@Henry, you might be right with the SU-30 prediction, since we are getting off the shelf ones, minimum of 8 I read on Beegs blog.

Tops, we should get visual confirmation in about 3 weeks.

I was been sarcastic bro. I cannot confirm anything. We've been "here" many times before.

jl115:

Firstly in not one of the pics I posted did I see 850 troops,did you?

I saw Max 60 troops and 6apc, the base as u could see was clean and proffesional, don't know why you are saying its defended poorly

Your FOB has 850 troops.
Your FOB is poorly secured and only has 6 APC's.
The Nigerian base in Sudan is 10 times better protected, I posted images.

Plus the Nigerian military in Sudan also has Super-puma and MI-17 Helicopters.

I'm saying it is poorly guarded because it is, I also stated my reasons.

A country that manufactures APC's can't afford to equip it's troops in the CAR and Sudan. That's pathetic.