agaugust:


[size=13] Nope, Zimbabwe invented V-Hull shaped mine resistant vehicles, proudly Rhodesian.

So, you South Africans stole Zimbabwean invention and you want to claim you invented MRAP ?

No, you are glories thieves, Zimbabwe is smarter than you

South Africans have been telling lies to the whole world again o !

Zimbabwe invented MRAP !

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopard/ [/size]

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The Hippo APC entered service before the Leopard....Go look it up!

patches689:


Gay white boys colonized you with ease.

So, if you were dominated by gays for allmost 800 years... what does that make you?

800 years? where? colonized with ease? lies you whiteboys are only tough with guns and as we can see in sport you white boys aint sh.it youre weak and pathetic i feel sorry for you

jln115:

The Hippo APC entered service before the Leopard....Go look it up!

"Go look what up?", the leopard is the world's first APC with a V-shaped hull.

Henry120:


All vehicles with a V-shaped hull trace their origin to a Rhodesian vehicle.

"The MRAP design was first introduced in specialized vehicles in the 1970s built by and for the Rhodesian Army."

Nope the Hippo was the first MRAP!

jln115:

Nope the Hippo was the first MRAP!

You South-Africans are lost!

Henry120:

"Go look what up?", the leopard is the world's first APC with a V-shaped hull.

Nope the Hippo was!

mzilakazi:


Sometimes don't you see the importance of doing some research about the demographics of South Africa before you can put your dirty fingers on your keyboard. You are downgrading the credibility of Nairaland. People look up to this forum to use as their source of information and now you are here with your campaign of misleading people.

Here are the credible data.


Black African 76.8%
White 9.1%
Coloured 8.9%
Indian or Asian 2.5%

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_South_Africa


The economy of South Africa is controlled by South African government. It remains the only democratically elected government tasked to regulate the economy.

you think being dominated by 9% of your country is better than 5%? and you people breed like flies and that data is already old you zulus are a disgrace to Africa

Henry120:


You South-Africans are lost!

Hippo APC:

"This Mk1-M series based on the 1970 Bedford chassis, replaced the “R” series of which 150 (1974) were produced for the South African Police, and were used in South West Africa /Namibia. A further 120 were manufactured for the SADF. The vehicle was withdrawn from service in 1978. To date South Africa is the leading manufacturer of mine protected vehicles. Vehicle displayed is waiting for refurbishing."

http://www.saarmourmuseum.co.za/lesakeng.html

agaugust:


[size=13] Nope, Zimbabwe invented V-Hull shaped mine resistant vehicles, proudly Rhodesian.

So, you South Africans stole Zimbabwean invention and you want to claim you invented MRAP ?

No, you are glories thieves, Zimbabwe is smarter than you

South Africans have been telling lies to the whole world again o !

Zimbabwe invented MRAP !

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopard/ [/size]

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That's a big lie. Buffel even was introduces before Leopard and was largely used in Rhodesian bushwar far more than Leopard.



http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1080.html

jln115:

The Hippo APC entered service before the Leopard....Go look it up!

We already looked it up and found that history records Zimbabwe Rhodesia as first inventor of V-Hull and MRAP in the whole world.

Who cares about service date? We are talking about date and origin of original invention.

Zimbabwean brain invented MRAP, history records that you Southies traveled to beg and borrow the invention from Zimbabwe.

MRAP and V hull is product of Zimbabwean brain.

"After the unfortunate death of a close relative in a land-mine incident in 1974, inventor Ernest Konschel began exhaustive research on land-mine damaged vehicles and mine craters, ultimately designing and producing the first in a series of dedicated monocoque construction mine resisting vehicles, the Leopard.

(Monocoque meaning the body forms the chassis or frame of the motor vehicle, as opposed to a purpose made chassis).

This design is a forerunner to many of the mine resistant vehicles developed and used in Southern and Central Africa from that time to the present."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopard/

South Africa glory thief art thou

CASE CLOSED


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jln115:

Hippo APC:

"This Mk1-M series based on the 1970 Bedford chassis, replaced the “R” series of which 150 (1974) were produced for the South African Police, and were used in South West Africa /Namibia. A further 120 were manufactured for the SADF. The vehicle was withdrawn from service in 1978. To date South Africa is the leading manufacturer of mine protected vehicles. Vehicle displayed is waiting for refurbishing."

http://www.saarmourmuseum.co.za/lesakeng.html

Nope, the leopard which was produced in 1974 is the first APC with a V-shaped hull.

The V-shaped hull is Rhodesian.

Henry120:


Nope, the leopard which was produced in 1974 is the first APC with a V-shaped hull.

Leopard was designed in 1974 and produced in 1975, the Hippo was produced in 1974! a year before the leopard.

agaugust:


We already looked it up and found that history records Zimbabwe Rhodesia as first inventor of V-Hull and MRAP in the whole world.

Who cares about service date? We are talking about date and origin of original invention.

Zimbabwean brain invented MRAP, history records that you Southies traveled to beg and borrow the invention from Zimbabwe.

MRAP and V hull is product of Zimbabwean brain.

"After the unfortunate death of a close relative in a land-mine incident in 1974, inventor Ernest Konschel began exhaustive research on land-mine damaged vehicles and mine craters, ultimately designing and producing the first in a series of dedicated monocoque construction mine resisting vehicles, the Leopard.

(Monocoque meaning the body forms the chassis or frame of the motor vehicle, as opposed to a purpose made chassis).

This design is a forerunner to many of the mine resistant vehicles developed and used in Southern and Central Africa from that time to the present."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopard/

CASE CLOSED glory thief art thou
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"This Mk1-M series based on the 1970 Bedford chassis, replaced the “R” series of which 150 (1974) were produced for the South African Police, and were used in South West Africa /Namibia. A further 120 were manufactured for the SADF. The vehicle was withdrawn from service in 1978. To date South Africa is the leading manufacturer of mine protected vehicles. Vehicle displayed is waiting for refurbishing."

http://www.saarmourmuseum.co.za/lesakeng.html

Thus the Hippo APC was produced a whole year before the Leopard!!

CASE CLOSED

jln115:

Leopard was designed in 1974 and produced in 1975, the Hippo was produced in 1974! a year before the leopard.

The Leopard Security Vehicle is an unusual land-mine protected APC used by the Rhodesian Government and civilian population during the Rhodesian Bush War. It offered basic but necessary protection against mine attack through the use of a V-hull.

DesignEdit


Leopard displayed in the Imperial War Museum North, Manchester, UK

View from rear, showing passenger entrance door, steps up, engine compartment and fuel tank at extreme rear.
The Leopard was designed in 1974 by Ernest Konschel.

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jln115:


"This Mk1-M series based on the 1970 Bedford chassis, replaced the “R” series of which 150 (1974) were produced for the South African Police, and were used in South West Africa /Namibia. A further 120 were manufactured for the SADF. The vehicle was withdrawn from service in 1978. To date South Africa is the leading manufacturer of mine protected vehicles. Vehicle displayed is waiting for refurbishing."

http://www.saarmourmuseum.co.za/lesakeng.html

Thus the Hippo APC was produced a whole year before the Leopard!!

CASE CLOSED

Ah ! Glory thief o ! Your own source did NOT say South African Hippo was the first, it does NOT say so !

Zimbabwe produced the Leopard in 1974, and South Africa went to them to copy it. The Leopard is recorded in world history as the fore-runner of all Southern African MRAPs, the Rhodesians built it in 1974 and that same year South Africa went to Zimbabwe Rhodesia to copy the Zim's invention for transfer to South Africa for production under a new name !

"After the unfortunate death of a close relative in a land-mine incident in 1974, inventor Ernest Konschel began exhaustive research on land-mine damaged vehicles and mine craters, ultimately designing and producing the first in a series of dedicated monocoque construction mine resisting vehicles, the Leopard.

(Monocoque meaning the body forms the chassis or frame of the motor vehicle, as opposed to a purpose made chassis).

This design is a forerunner to many of the mine resistant vehicles developed and used in Southern and Central Africa from that time to the present."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopar

PHOTO : Zimbawean Leopard MRAP invention imported into South Africa for copying, displayed by Technical team at South African National Museum of Military History inside South Africa !
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Henry120:


Nope, the leopard which was produced in 1974 is the first APC with a V-shaped hull.

The V-shaped hull is Rhodesian.

Nope your own source says it was first produced in 1975 and designed in 1974.

agaugust:


Ah ! Glory thief o ! Your own source did NOT say South African Hippo was the first, it does NOT say so !

Zimbabwe produced the Leopard in 1974, and South Africa went to them to copy it. The Leopard is recorded in world history as the fore-runner of all Southern African MRAPs, the Rhodesians built it in 1974 and that same year South Africa went to Zimbabwe Rhodesia to copy the Zim's invention for transfer to South Africa for production under a new name !

"After the unfortunate death of a close relative in a land-mine incident in 1974, inventor Ernest Konschel began exhaustive research on land-mine damaged vehicles and mine craters, ultimately designing and producing the first in a series of dedicated monocoque construction mine resisting vehicles, the Leopard.

(Monocoque meaning the body forms the chassis or frame of the motor vehicle, as opposed to a purpose made chassis).

This design is a forerunner to many of the mine resistant vehicles developed and used in Southern and Central Africa from that time to the present."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopar

PHOTO : Zimbawean Leopard MRAP invention imported into South Africa for copying, displayed by Technical team at South African National Museum of Military History inside South Africa !
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Dude you can say the same thing over and over again, its not going to change the fact that the Hippo was first produced in 1974 and the leopard was produced in 1975.

Henry120:


The Leopard Security Vehicle is an unusual land-mine protected APC used by the Rhodesian Government and civilian population during the Rhodesian Bush War. It offered basic but necessary protection against mine attack through the use of a V-hull.

DesignEdit


Leopard displayed in the Imperial War Museum North, Manchester, UK

View from rear, showing passenger entrance door, steps up, engine compartment and fuel tank at extreme rear.
The Leopard was designed in 1974 by Ernest Konschel.

OK? so now you agree it was designed in 1974 and produced in 1975?

jln115:

OK? so now you agree it was designed in 1974 and produced in 1975?

It was designed and produced in 1974.

Henry120:

It was designed and produced in 1974.

Wrong. Since when did you see something like a car designed and produced the same year? Dummy.

Henry120:

It was designed and produced in 1974.

No.

"Year of Manufacture: 1979. (Produced from 1975 to 1979 - all Marks)."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopard/

THE HIPPO, THE MRAP THAT USED TO BE FEARED BY THE BLACK POWER IS THE FIRST MRAP IN THE WORLD.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippo_APC

jln115:

No.

"Year of Manufacture: 1979. (Produced from 1975 to 1979 - all Marks)."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopard/

[size=20]Yes, manufactured in 1979[/size]
The Leopards, in fact never saw much of the action in the Rhodesian bushwar, the South African Buffel were the ones which were largely used.

mzilakazi:
THE HIPPO, THE MRAP THAT USED TO BE FEARED BY THE BLACK POWER IS THE FIRST MRAP IN THE WORLD.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippo_APC

You want to change to Wikipedia now ?

Okay, thank you for the suicide move
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"The Leopard was designed in 1974 by Ernest Konschel. It pre-dates and is similar in concept to the South African Buffel. This Rhodesian vehicle predates the South African 'Buffel' by several years. Many Rhodesian-designed vehicles were shipped to South Africa for trial and reverse engineering , giving rise to the first generation of South African monocoque mine proof vehicles."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_security_vehicle

Finally proved :

1. Zimbabwe Rhodesia invented world's first MRAP and V-Hull in 1974

2. South African went to import it from Zimbabwe and reverse-engineered it same year to produce South Africa's first generation MRAPs

3. Zimbabwe showed South Africa how to make MRAP and V-Hull

4. South Africa is a glory thief making false claims that they invented MRAP technology !

CASE CLOSED FINALLY

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I STILL LOVE MY CASSPIR

agaugust:


You want to change to Wikipedia now ?

Okay, thank you for the suicide move
[size=13pt]
"The Leopard was designed in 1974 by Ernest Konschel. It pre-dates and is similar in concept to the South African Buffel. This Rhodesian vehicle predates the South African 'Buffel' by several years. Many Rhodesian-designed vehicles were shipped to South Africa for trial and reverse engineering , giving rise to the first generation of South African monocoque mine proof vehicles."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_security_vehicle

Finally proved :

1. Zimbabwe Rhodesia invented world's first MRAP and V-Hull in 1974

2. South African went to import it from Zimbabwe and reverse-engineered it same year to produce South Africa's first generation MRAPs

3. Zimbabwe showed South Africa how to make MRAP and V-Hull

4. South Africa is a glory thief making false claims that they invented MRAP technology !

CASE CLOSED FINALLY

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SA invented MRAP technology, whether you like it or not. The government of SA was faced with threats of mines and IEDs from ANC rebels and they were forced to come up with a solution.


We don't change wikipedia, Hippo is the oldest MRAP in the entire world. In fact it was designed in the late 1960s, Wiki is seems to be wrong. It entered service in 1974 with SADF and it was used to harrass ANC's black power. It is very notorious specifically for such things


When leopard was busy designed HIPPO was already in action. Leopard, however never made it. Rhodesian government still imported HIPPOs and BUFFELS from South Africa.

agaugust:


You want to change to Wikipedia now ?

Okay, thank you for the suicide move
[size=13pt]
"The Leopard was designed in 1974 by Ernest Konschel. It pre-dates and is similar in concept to the South African Buffel. This Rhodesian vehicle predates the South African 'Buffel' by several years. Many Rhodesian-designed vehicles were shipped to South Africa for trial and reverse engineering , giving rise to the first generation of South African monocoque mine proof vehicles."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_security_vehicle

Finally proved :

1. Zimbabwe Rhodesia invented world's first MRAP and V-Hull in 1974

2. South African went to import it from Zimbabwe and reverse-engineered it same year to produce South Africa's first generation MRAPs

3. Zimbabwe showed South Africa how to make MRAP and V-Hull

4. South Africa is a glory thief making false claims that they invented MRAP technology !

CASE CLOSED FINALLY

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Yes it predates the Buffel NOT the Hippo!

http://newobserveronline.com/black-population-in-south-africa-has-increased-by-920-in-100-years/

mzilakazi:


Sometimes don't you see the importance of doing some research about the demographics of South Africa before you can put your dirty fingers on your keyboard. You are downgrading the credibility of Nairaland. People look up to this forum to use as their source of information and now you are here with your campaign of misleading people.

Here are the credible data.


Black African 76.8%
White 9.1%
Coloured 8.9%
Indian or Asian 2.5%

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_South_Africa


The economy of South Africa is controlled by South African government. It remains the only democratically elected government tasked to regulate the economy.

All this emotional horseshit just to correct some demographics? Zulus are well over 80% of the population. But I get your sentiments: the lower the population of zulus, the less redundant and docile they'll appear. So you say 79% for Zulus but I say 85%. In essence most coloured south Africans are more or else Zulus (black south Africans). They are often blacks mixed with white or other races who are by affiliation, social status and economic class, zulus. This describes most of you half bred Zulus on this forum. Whites often always considers any stain in their race a contamination in all countries that has mixed races.
Whites are also 8% in South Africa and not your 9.1%

Ok, so who owns and runs the economy,? You say the government. Isn't that a dumb, simplistic answer. Everyone knows the Boers/ Afrikaner runs and owns the economy. Zulus can't even feed themselves. In 2015 Zulus still practice subsistent farming not even enough to feed and store up. 6% Afrikaner/white produce the whole food for local consumption and export for south Africa. This group run your defence department, financial/stock market, large firms and corporations. Zulus still wait for handouts and mandatory employments as black birthrights. Mind you south Africa is the only country where majority ethnic group are backed by statutory compulsory employment as if they're in the minority.

What's the cry about Nairaland I heard you say. Whipping up sentiments . South Africans are on an ego massage trip here and have made this thread more argumentative and empty fabricated rhetorics with little fact.http://www.indexmundi.com/south_africa/demographics_profile.html

WHEN ANOTHER SOUTH AFRICAN, MR ERNEST KONSCHEL WAS BUSY DESIGNING HIS LEOPARD IN ZIMBABWE, THE HIPPOS WERE ALREADY IN ACTIVE SERVICE WITH SADF AND SAP.


The “Hippo” was the first mine protected vehicle produced in South Africa, built on a modified Bedford truck (1961) chassis. These vehicles were an interim solution and were not popular with the troops, being slow and cumbersome. Although not favoured, the vehicles fulfilled their task. This Mk1-M series based on the 1970 Bedford chassis, replaced the “R” series of which 150 (1974) were produced for the South African Police, and were used in South West Africa /Namibia. A further 120 were manufactured for the SADF. The vehicle was withdrawn
from service in 1978. To date South Africa is the leading manufacturer of mine protected vehicles. Vehicle displayed is waiting for refurbishing.


http://www.saarmourmuseum.co.za/lesakeng.html

The hippo is undoubtedly the first MRAP in the world.

lezz:
All this emotional horseshit just to correct some demographics? Zulus are well over 80% of the population. But I get your sentiments: the lower the population of zulus, the less redundant and docile they'll appear. So you say 79% for Zulus but I say 85%. In essence most coloured south Africans are more or else Zulus (black south Africans). They are often blacks mixed with white or other races who are by affiliation, social status and economic class, zulus. This describes most of you half bred Zulus on this forum. Whites often always considers any stain in their race a contamination in all countries that has mixed races.
Whites are also 8% in South Africa and not your 9.1%

Ok, so who owns and runs the economy,? You say the government. Isn't that a dumb, simplistic answer. Everyone knows the Boers/ Afrikaner runs and owns the economy. Zulus can't even feed themselves. In 2015 Zulus still practice subsistent farming not even enough to feed and store up. 6% Afrikaner/white produce the whole food for local consumption and export for south Africa. This group run your defence department, financial/stock market, large firms and corporations. Zulus on wait for handouts and mandatory employments as blacks. Mind you south Africa is the only country where majority are backed by statutory compulsory employment as if they're in the minority.

What's the cry about Nairaland I heard you say. Whipping up sentiments . South Africans are on an ego massage trip here and have made this thread more argumentative and empty fabricated rhetorics with little fact.

Oh!! you speak of Zulus, they make only about 12% of South Africa's population and in total including all Black's they make way less than 80%.

Stats of 2011.

http://www.southafrica.info/about/people/population.htm#.VZbc8jPRY8o

Coloureds are coloureds and they cannot even speak Zulu. I will give pictures of coloured family.

You should tell me if any of those people look anything like Igbo in Nigeria.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2009/12/to-be-coloured-in-south-africa-means-being-all-of-the-above/#.VZbZqjPRY8o

jln115:

Yes it predates the Buffel NOT the Hippo!

Zimbabwean Leopard MRAP predates ALL MRAPs in this world, Buffel, Buffalo, Hippo, all MRAPs.

"After the unfortunate death of a close relative in a land-mine incident in 1974, inventor Ernest Konschel began exhaustive research on land-mine damaged vehicles and mine craters, ultimately designing and producing the first in a series of dedicated monocoque construction mine resisting vehicles, the Leopard.

(Monocoque meaning the body forms the chassis or frame of the motor vehicle, as opposed to a purpose made chassis).

This design is a forerunner to many of the mine resistant vehicles developed and used in Southern and Central Africa from that time to the present."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopar


No source says South Africa invented MRAP a d V hull, sources prove Zimbabwe Rhodesia as the world's only inventor of MRAP.

Stop telling lies, stop stealing other countries glory, fear God once in a while Mr. Thief !
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