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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:29am On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:




You will never learn and I pity you and your country.

I asked a simple question and you keep twisting things.

Does Angola and Algeria generate more revenue from oil than Nigeria?

Why is their budget and revenue higher than that of Nigeria?

Answer the question?

The problem might be that, Naija's economy is over dependant on oil and thus they need to diversify.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:35am On Nov 30, 2015
cryWorld Bank once warned that Nigeria oil reserves will end in 40 years but it seems it will end sooner than later.

Nigeria's oil reserves in danger of depletion.

http://thenationonlineng.net/dangers-of-nigerias-depleting-oil-reserves/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:38am On Nov 30, 2015
mzilakazi:



Whatever you wrote here does not make sense at all.

-Nigeria's economy is also underperforming.
-There are more job losses in Nigeria because of falling oil prices which is also said to trade at $25 a barrell in 2016. Nigeria has effectively joined SA on its economic woes. Fact!!
-SA remains no:2 economy in Africa. Egypt is No:3

I wonder who is feeding you this wrong information.

Thank you.
You're not suppose to be on this forum. Your illiteracy-cum-imbecility is sheer world class.

First off, oil doesn't make good employment so job loss due to oil price crash is sheer ignorance on your part.

2nd , Nigeria's economy is growing although not at the rate of 2014. It is growing 2/3 %. South Africa isn't stagnant. IT IS SHRINKING BY 1.3%!!!!


3RD, oil make up less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP. I really feel pity for you genuinely.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:48am On Nov 30, 2015
lezz:



3RD, oil make up less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP. I really feel pity for you genuinely.


lezz:

3RD, oil make up less than 20% of Nigeria's GDP. I really feel pity for you genuinely.

Bwahaha! Nigeria depends on oil for a whopping [size=20pt]90%[/size] of its foreign income and another whopping [size=20pt]75%[/size] of government revenue. Which is why the Naira has had to be devalued, due to the hurtful oil prices. Your national budget assumes an oil price of at least USD70 odd or so. With the oil price where it is, you have a huge deficit. You currently are struggling with fuel shortages as well, which means that you can't even power your generators. Effectively, Nigeria has no energy right now, which in the long run, means you are at least 100 years behind the industrialisation levels that South Africa has reached. Let alone having a globally integrated economy. In short, Nigeria is stuffed.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:04am On Nov 30, 2015
DieVluit:





Bwahaha! Nigeria depends on oil for a whopping [size=20pt]90%[/size] of its foreign income. Which is why the Naira has had to be devalued, due to the hurtful oil prices. Your national budget assumes an oil price of at least USD70 odd or so. With the oil price where it is, you have a huge deficit. You currently are struggling with fuel shortages as well, which means that you can't even power your generators. Effectively, Nigeria has no energy right now, which in the long run, means you are at least 100 years behind the industrialisation levels that South Africa has reached. Let alone having a globally integrated economy. In short, Nigeria is stuffed.
Another unteachable Zulu bursts forth in a show of impulsive rantings.


Oil makes make up 90% of government income and not the economy or GDP or cash flow. Learn the difference. If the Nigerian economy is oil dependent, the economy would have crashes since over a year now. But as it is, it is still outgrowing south Africa. The devaluation of naira will help our export in an ironic way, dummy. That's one of China's secret for a very long time.

Your high rand has done nothing for you. It adds to your inflation and makes your good to lack competitiveness outside your shores.


Your "globally integrated" economy hasn't recovered from the economic meltdown some years ago when others have started picking up.


Is it the reason all of Africa is outgrowing you?

Oh, and there are no energy crisis in Nigeria, fuel is back after a rumoured marketing gimmick got the price up.


And you, you mean to tell me about your industries when 1 in 4 south Africans don't work?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:21am On Nov 30, 2015
lezz:

Oil makes make up 90% of government income and not the economy or GDP or cash flow.

You are an idiot. If oil makes 90% of Nigeria's foreign earnings, and if Nigeria imports most of the things that it needs, including refined fuel, where do you think it will get its forex from if the oil prices are where they are? Of course, you will devalue the Naira. Of course, you will have to fight crazy inflation. Of course, there will be less money in the hands of every Nigerian. Of course, South Africa will then overtake (and South Africa has overtaken) you on the list of Africa's richest. In short, individual Nigerians are getting poorer and Nigeria is stuffed. A globally integrated economy requires forex power. Nigeria does not have that. You are weak.

And yes, you continue to face fuel scarcity.---> http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/194084-how-to-end-fuel-scarcity-marketers-tell-nigerian-government.html

And yes, South Africa is the most industrialised nation on the continent. Nigeria is one of the least industrialised nations on the continent. You are a giant weak feet of clay. You are weak.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 9:46am On Nov 30, 2015
DieVluit:


You are an idiot. If oil makes 90% of Nigeria's foreign earnings, and if Nigeria imports most of the things that it needs, including refined fuel, where do you think it will get its forex from if the oil prices are where they are? Of course, you will devalue the Naira. Of course, you will have to fight crazy inflation. Of course, there will be less money in the hands of every Nigerian. Of course, South Africa will then overtake (and South Africa has overtaken) you on the list of Africa's richest. In short, individual Nigerians are getting poorer and Nigeria is stuffed. A globally integrated economy requires forex power. Nigeria does not have that. You are weak.

And yes, you continue to face fuel scarcity.---> http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/194084-how-to-end-fuel-scarcity-marketers-tell-nigerian-government.html

And yes, South Africa is the most industrialised nation on the continent. Nigeria is one of the least industrialised nations on the continent. You are a giant weak feet of clay. You are weak.
Your dememcy has reached its last stages. Nigeria has more billionaires than South Africa.

South Africa's poverty rate is 40 -45%
Nigeria is 33%.

Your unemployment is 25%
Mine is 9%
Your wealth distribution is 10% rich/90% poor.

That's why all your companies are fleeing here.

And NIGERIA'S ECONOMY is still growing. South Africa isn't growing, it isn't stagnant either , it is _fucking SHRINKING like a broken tree branch cut off from its roots.


All your industries are becoming monuments of unproductivity and waste.


South Africa is so defenceless economically and militarily. Only a reality-maladjusted village fool like you will come here singing this broken song when NIGERIA has overtaken you while fighting bokoharam for 6 years!!!

_fucking destitute of a newt


South Africa is an over hyped crappie crap with tiny 50 million population overtaken by AIDS.

Your demise is inevitable.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:00am On Nov 30, 2015
lezz:
Your dememcy has reached its last stages. Nigeria has more billionaires than South Africa.

South Africa's poverty rate is 40 -45%
Nigeria is 33%.


Voodoo economics from a Nigerian village idiot. Seeing as you brought it up:

Nigeria's poverty ratio at last count - a whoping [size=20pt]53.5%[/size] (simply put, more than half of your people are kak poor. That's more poor people than South Africa's entire population).

South Africa at last count - [size=20pt]16.6%[/size]

http://povertydata.worldbank.org

The rest of your post is no-response-required drivel that has already been cancelled out by preceding posts.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:39am On Nov 30, 2015
ABUJA — In a bid to recover stolen defence cash running into trillions of Naira, the Defence Headquarters might have started recalling no fewer than 20 Generals said to have been involved in the purchase of arms and ammunition for the country.

Competent military sources told Vanguard last night that the suspected top military officers were being detained at a military facility in Abuja and would soon be made to face the music for their roles in fleecing the nation.

Similarly, the sources hinted that key military, naval and air force officers, who had retired within the last three months, were also being recalled to face an investigating panel probing the purchase of arms for the nation since 2009 with a view to ascertaining their roles in the missing defence funds.

According to one of the sources, who spoke in confidence to our correspondent yesterday, the investigative panel, which was raised by the Chief of Army Staff, is headed by a Brigadier General, whose name was not also disclosed for security reasons.

According to a source, “I can tell you that the current leadership of the Defence institution in Nigeria has zero tolerance for corruption given the need to give Nigeria a new lease of life. All those suspected to have diverted any money meant for the armed forces are being recalled to explain their roles in arms purchase.

“As we speak, some Generals currently serving are under detention at a military facility in Abuja while some who had retired but held sensitive appointments relating to arms and logistics procurement have been recalled by an investigating panel.”

It was learnt that some of the detained top military officers might have connived with some national security officers to divert huge sums of money set aside for the procurement of vital equipment and platforms for the armed forces by acknowledging receipt of such items when none had been supplied.

The Presidency is said to have ordered the military authorities to take immediate steps to recover stolen funds allocated to them.



Panel report

This followed the report of a panel raised by President Muhammadu Buhari on August 31 this year to look into defence budget and recommend the way forward for Nigeria.

In turning in its interim report, the panel raised the alarm that certain individuals saddled with the task of arms procurement for Nigeria, made away with huge sums and left the army to fight with bare hands.

The panel said that extra budgetary interventions collated by the committee was N643.8 billion while the foreign currency component was $2.2 billion.

The report indicated that the amounts excluded grants from the state governments and funds collected by the Directorate of State Services and the Police.

The statement said the committee observed that in spite of this huge financial intervention, very little was expended to support defence procurement.



Failed contracts

The committee also observed that of 513 contracts awarded at $8,356,525,184.32; N2,189,265,724,404.55 and 54,000.00 Euros, 53 were failed contracts amounting to $2,378,939,066.27 and N13,729,342,329.87 respectively.

According to the statement, the committee also noted that the amount of foreign currency spent on failed contracts was more than double the one billion dollars loan that the National Assembly approved for borrowing to fight the insurgency in the North East.

It stated that the committee also discovered that payments to the tune of N3.850 billion were made to a single company by the former NSA without documented evidence of contractual agreements or fulfilment of tax obligations to the Federal Government.

The statement said: “Further findings revealed that between March 2012 and March 2015, the erstwhile NSA, Lt. Col. Sambo Dasuki (retd) awarded fictitious and phantom contracts to the tune of N2,219,188,609.50; $1,671,742,613.58 and 9,905,477.00 Euros.

“The contracts, which were said to be for the purchase of four Alpha Jets, 12 helicopters, bombs and ammunition were not executed and the equipment were never supplied to the Nigerian Air Force, neither are they in its inventory.

“Even more disturbing was the discovery that out of these figures, two companies, were awarded contracts to the tune of N350,000,000.00; $1,661,670,469.71 and 9,905,477.00 Euros alone.

“This was without prejudice to the consistent non-performance of the companies in the previous contracts awarded.

“Additionally, it was discovered that the former NSA directed the Central Bank of Nigeria to transfer $132,050,486.97 and 9,905,473.55 Euros to the accounts of Societe D’equipmente Internationaux in West Africa, United Kingdom and United States of America for un-ascertained purposes, without any contract documents to explain the transactions.”
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/missing-cash-defence-hqtrs-detains-generals-recalls-others/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:45am On Nov 30, 2015
Nigerians Growing Poorer For First Time Since 1999 - Businessday

Nigerians are growing poorer for the first time since the return to democracy in 1999 as an economic slowdown combines with still high population growth rates to curb income per capita. Average incomes in Nigeria will fall by about 18 percent in 2015 to $2,550 per annum, from over $3,000 in 2014.

https://businessdayonline.com/2015/11/nigerians-growing-poorer-for-first-time-since-1999/

Passingshot now who has destroyed Nigeria between PDP's 16 years and APC's 6 months?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:45am On Nov 30, 2015
lezz:
Your dememcy has reached its last stages. Nigeria has more billionaires than South Africa.

South Africa's poverty rate is 40 -45%
Nigeria is 33%.

Your unemployment is 25%
Mine is 9%
Your wealth distribution is 10% rich/90% poor.

That's why all your companies are fleeing here.

And NIGERIA'S ECONOMY is still growing. South Africa isn't growing, it isn't stagnant either , it is _fucking SHRINKING like broken a tree branch cut off from its roots.


All your industries are becoming monuments of unproductivity and waste.


South Africa is so defenceless economically and militarily. Only a reality-maladjusted village fool like you will come here singing this broken song when NIGERIA has overtaken you while fighting bokoharam for 6 years!!!

_fucking destitute of a newt


South Africa is an over hyped crappie crap with tiny 50 million population overtaken by AIDS.

You demise is inevitable.



Indeed I am now certain that you are a lunatic.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:46am On Nov 30, 2015
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/30/blair-and-bush-went-to-war-in-iraq-despite-south-africas-wmd-assurances

Blair and Bush went to war in Iraq despite South Africa's WMD assurances

New book God, Spies and Lies details Mbeki’s attempts to stop invasion
SA experts worked with Saddam in 1980s; Mandela also tried to warn Bush

God, Spies and Lies, by South African journalist John Matisonn, describes how then president Thabo Mbeki tried in vain to convince both Blair and President George W Bush that toppling Saddam Hussein in 2003 would be a terrible mistake.

Mbeki’s predecessor, Nelson Mandela, also tried to convince the American leader, but was left fuming that “President Bush doesn’t know how to think”.

The claim was this week supported by Mbeki’s office, which confirmed that he pleaded with both leaders to heed the WMD experts and even offered to become their intermediary with Saddam in a bid to maintain peace.

South Africa had a special insight into Iraq’s potential for WMD because the apartheid government’s own biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programme in the 1980s led the countries to collaborate. The programme was abandoned after the end of white minority rule in 1994 but the expert team, known as Project Coast, was put back together by Mbeki to investigate the US and UK assertion that Saddam had WMD – the central premise for mounting an invasion.

Mbeki, who enjoyed positive relations with both Blair and Saddam, asked for the team to be granted access.

“Saddam agreed, and gave the South African team the freedom to roam unfettered throughout Iraq,” writes Matisonn, who says he drew on sources in Whitehall and the South African cabinet. “They had access to UN intelligence on possible WMD sites. The US, UK and UN were kept informed of the mission and its progress.” [...] Read more http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/30/blair-and-bush-went-to-war-in-iraq-despite-south-africas-wmd-assurances

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:49am On Nov 30, 2015
Nigerias poverty rate is 70% of the total population and not 33% as wrongly claimed by loose but Lezz.

Unemployment rate is 28%.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/05/new-govt-inheriting-70-poverty-28-unemployment/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:56am On Nov 30, 2015
World bank ranks Nigeria as the third most poorest country on poverty index.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/04/440695/

These are some of the news lezz will never want to read. Credible news from world bank.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 11:01am On Nov 30, 2015
DieVluit:



Voodoo economics from a Nigerian village idiot. Seeing as you brought it up:

Nigeria's poverty ratio at last count - a whoping [size=20pt]53.5%[/size] (simply put, more than half of your people are kak poor. That's more poor people than South Africa's entire population).

South Africa at last count - [size=20pt]16.6%[/size]

http://povertydata.worldbank.org

The rest of your post is no-response-required drivel that has already been cancelled out by preceding posts.

You are a fool and you just exposed yourself.

From what you posted your poverty is increasing
Even when your GDP was stronger than what you have today From 2008 - 2011 while Nigeria poverty rate was was same from 2003- 2009 calculated with old gdp(ppp) dummy.

Your link used old figures of 2003 - 2009 to calculate Nigeria's poverty rate while 2008 - 2011 was used for South Africa.

Our gdp is currently three time the figures used so look
for something current.
Nigeria's poverty rate is even lesser that 33% currently fool.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:05am On Nov 30, 2015
The world critises Nigeria for doctoring their unemployment rate data.

Africa check analyses Nigeria's doctored data which is criticized by the world. I wonder who on earth will ever endorse Nigeria's collected statistics.


https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-how-nigerias-unemployment-rate-is-calculated/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:17am On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:


You are a fool and you just exposed yourself.

From what you posted your poverty is increasing
Even when your GDP was stronger than what you have today From 2008 - 2009 while Nigeria poverty rate was was same from 2003- 2011 calculated with old gdp(ppp) dummy.

Our gdp is currently three time the figures used so look
for something current.
Nigeria's poverty rate is even lesser that 33% currently fool.



Nigeria's poverty is a whooping 70%. I don't know why you should lie so much when various sources and world bank proved it?


http://www.ruralpovertyportal.org/country/home/tags/nigeria
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 11:19am On Nov 30, 2015
mzilakazi:




Nigeria's poverty is a whooping 70%. I don't know why you should lie so much when various sources and world bank proved it?

Why don't you post the world Bank source here.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:36am On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:


Why don't you post the world Bank source here.

I start you first with CIA data.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2046.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 11:43am On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:


You are a fool and you just exposed yourself.

From what you posted your poverty is increasing
Even when your GDP was stronger than what you have today From 2008 - 2011 while Nigeria poverty rate was was same from 2003- 2009 calculated with old gdp(ppp) dummy.

Your link used old figures of 2003 - 2009 to calculate Nigeria's poverty rate while 2008 - 2011 was used for South Africa.

Our gdp is currently three time the figures used so look
for something current.
Nigeria's poverty rate is even lesser that 33% currently fool.

There is no better source than the WORLD BANK for poverty numbers. At last count (if you understand English), those are the numbers.

So, feel free to post your own "correct source". You have no link in your post, so you're effectively mouthfarting today. My numbers stand.

And your nominal GDP is USD 500 approx. So, please stop talking rubbish.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 11:47am On Nov 30, 2015
mzilakazi:


I start you first with CIA data.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2046.html

You just killed yourself.

Nigeria 2010 estimate 70%

South Africa 2012 estimate 35%.

Nigeria gdp is currently about 3 times the data that was used then. Our current poverty rate is 33% while South Africa's poverty rate is about 40% as of Las year dummy.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 11:49am On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:


You just killed yourself.

Nigeria 2010 estimate 70%

South Africa 2012 estimate 35%.

Nigeria gdp is currently about 3 times the data that was used then. Our current poverty rate is 33% while South Africa's poverty rate is about 40% as of Las year dummy.

You have zero sources to support you hallucinations. So, please stop vomiting on the page. Nigeria's nominal GDP is approx $500 bn. Poverty rates are as posted by me, from the World Bank source.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 11:53am On Nov 30, 2015
DieVluit:


You have zero sources to support you hallucinations. So, please stop vomiting on the page. Nigeria's nominal GDP is approx $500 bn. Poverty rates are as posted by me, from the World Bank source.

No its currently $574 bn. Against $160 that was used in 2010.

Yours was $386 bn then and is currently close to $300 bn.

Verify you poverty rate here please.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2046.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:57am On Nov 30, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:02pm On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:


You just killed yourself.

Nigeria 2010 estimate 70%

South Africa 2012 estimate 35%.

Nigeria gdp is currently about 3 times the data that was used then. Our current poverty rate is 33% while South Africa's poverty rate is about 40% as of Las year dummy.

Who told you that sudden growth of economy works magic to uplift people from poverty. Go and ask China why is it still having the largest poor population on earth despite their huge GDP.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 12:04pm On Nov 30, 2015
mzilakazi:
SA poverty headcount and Nigeria's. World Bank

South Africa.
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/ZAF

Nigeria.
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/country/NGA

Poverty rate in South Africa is about 40% fact.

I commented on this before. They even used 2009 data fore Nigeria which keeps us at 53% we are in 2015 with a gdp of almost $600 billion not 2009 of less than $170 billion.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:04pm On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:


No its currently $574 bn. Against $160 that was used in 2010.

Yours was $386 bn then and is currently close to $300 bn.

Verify you poverty rate here please.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2046.html


Nigeria's GDP as in current fell below $510 billion due to devaluation of currency. Many people do not consider that devaluation of currency shrinks GDP size.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 12:06pm On Nov 30, 2015
mzilakazi:


Who told you that sudden growth of economy works magic to uplift people from poverty. Go and ask China why is it still having the largest poor population on earth despite their huge GDP.
mumu even a 3year old will answer that.

China has a population of over 1 billion people compare to USA with just 300 million people.

Did you go to school at all.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 12:09pm On Nov 30, 2015
DieVluit:



Voodoo economics from a Nigerians village idiot. Seeing as you brought it up:

Nigeria's poverty ratio at last count - a whoping [size=20pt]53.5%[/size]

South Africa at last count - [size=20pt]16.6%[/size]

http://povertydata.worldbank.org

The rest of your post is no-response-required drivel that has already been cancelled out by preceding posts.
Let me show you, since Zulus must be taught everything. I love pictures. So i will take you back to your kindergarteen class. Please stop quoting ANC stats for me. _fuck's the matter with you?

Being the last slaves of humanity doesn't mean you shouldn't learn fast and catch up to the rest of us. You overgrown ,obese , nauseating toad.

South Africa isn't called the world's most unequal country for nothing. Foolish, demented ANC-zombie.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 12:09pm On Nov 30, 2015
mzilakazi:



Nigeria's GDP as in current fell below $510 due to devaluation of currency. Many people do not consider that devaluation of currency shrinks GDP size.

Is its a dull zulu that will teach IMF that?

Our economy is still growing even with devaluation of Naija.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:10pm On Nov 30, 2015
Ibro105:


Poverty rate in South Africa is about 40% fact.

I commented on this before. They even used 2009 data fore Nigeria which keeps us at 53% we are in 2015 with a gdp of almost $600 billion not 2009 of less than $170 billion.

World bank says is 16% per headcount. Stop giving us stats of Makoko university.

Sudden growth of GDP does not work wonders to fight poverty instantly. GDP value is just numbers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Ibro105: 12:14pm On Nov 30, 2015
mzilakazi:


Who told you that sudden growth of economy works magic to uplift people from poverty. Go and ask China why is it still having the largest poor population on earth despite their huge GDP.

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