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nigerian satellites the most advanced, rules all africa from outer space, watching the whole world from abuja

[img]http://martianchronicles.files./2010/03/spy-satellite-300x300.jpg[/img]

South Africas newly built space station in partnership with Russia.

http://en.rian.ru/science/20130403/180426943.html

Augustine Again: ......

the great ATR-42 Surveyor maritime patrol aircraft of nigerian air force....and 'oracle' above the oceans

[img]http://3.bp..com/-jV8HqT8KiSM/T0YWGYntBEI/AAAAAAAAMUg/IADBoDE2-G4/s400/ATR-42MP%252BAlessandro%2BBuffa.jpg[/img]

NAVAL BLOCKADE : SOUTH AFRICA VS NIGERIA


@saengine in light font
@agaugust in bold font



I'm only seeing this now. Ok let me make my own assumptions..


i am your teacher, say thank you to me for teaching you how to simulate combat with assumptions first


nigerian builds a shield of empty old fishing trawlers, barges, and ships to block all navy bases and harbours from south african navy exocet anti-ship missiles and as decoy to confuse type 209 submarines torpedoes....You have created a bottleneck. Why would you do something so silly? If your navy ships need to leave their base in a hurry, they will now probably have to leave in single file. Making them nice targets for Exocet. Taking them out one by one. In an emergency you won't have time to completely removed this blockade you set up.


all nigerian navy warships will never move out from that trawler protection shield, that is why i built the defensive line to cover them. the nigerian navy is not a f00l


the nigeria army at night moves 675 towed artillery guns D-30, OTO Melara Mod 56, and Yugoslav M-56-2 to target each south african warships ratio 170:1, that is 170 artillery guns firepower against 1 warship"


South African Navy will not be within 11km of your coast. Hence rendering your OTO Melara Mod 56 guns useless. 675 - 200 = 475 guns left. The South African Navy will not be within 16km of the Nigerian coast, making your D-30 guns useless. 475 - 200 = 275 guns left. Sitting at 19km away from the Nigerian coast, the shells falling from your M56 guns will cause a friendly splash of water, cooling the faces of the hard working South African sailors. The 675 D-30, Melara and M56 are completely useless with SA Frigates at 19km from your coast. So 675 = 0.


sorry your technical data of nigerian artillery ranges are very wrong, 200 units D-30 artillery range is 21km, 77 Bofors Haubit artillery range is 27km. 50 palmaria artillery range is 30km, 48 archer artillery range is 60km so that covers all nigerian continental shelf ocean territory of 22km maximum and far beyond into part of EEZ waters extension.

the farther away south africa's 4 warships stay from the nigerian coast, the more useless the blockade, you cannot use 3 warships to do the same job nigerian navy does with over 300 warships and fast attack boats over a coast of 50,000 sq km it is absolutely impossible, or are the south african warships flying air spirits ? your ships speed is that of an animal horse running on land, and south african ships are 100% visible and exposed on open sea waters with not trees or mountains to cover them, south african warships are at a big dis-advantage and exposed to be seen and be hit by shells



nigerian army at night moves 100 heavy mobile artillery archer, palmaria, and bofors to target each south african warship ratio 25:1. Now that your cheaper artillery is out of range. We take to the air. Each Valour class frigate can carry one Rooivalk helicopter, with a one or two naval modifications. But we only use 3 Rooivalk and one Super Lynx 300. Carrying a maximum load of 16 Mokopa missiles (8 under each wing), our pilots go on the hunt for your artillery at night. To get the maximum range from your artillery, you place them near your coast and not far inland. At 6 km from your coast, we can pick your artillery off one by one. One sortie of 3 Rooivalk will destroy half of your arsenal. At 6km from your coast we are also far enough from any Roland surface to air missiles you might have near by, and also close enough to our frigates in order for them to provide point defence with Umkhonto SAM. Your artillery will be nothing but sitting ducks. Each frigate would carry enough Mokopa missiles to destroy your artillery.



[b] careless mistake, all south african slow speed and low flying helicopters will be shot down by Roland or Type 90 air defences, even jets cannot survice nigerian air defence, now you waste all your helicopters, especially when nigerian radar detects your helicopters in flight, it is time for the nigeria's superior F-7 jets to fly and shoot down all south african helicopters from BVR range 7km air to air engagement.

jets are far superior to helicopters in air to air combat due to 7 times faster F-7 jet speed, 3 times higher altitude, and full load of air to air missies on F-7 while south african slow speed Rooivalk helicopters are busy loaded with 16 anti-tank missiles they will not be allowed to fire when F-7 jet shows up as a full interceptor role jet fighter. valour frigates will not be able to help its helicopters by firing umkhonto missiles against F-7 jets due to the 15km short range of the SAM umkhonto and the great risk of 'friendly fire' hitting its own Rooivalk helicopters by mistake when nigerian F-7 jets are in the same airspace with them, the all the south african Rooivalk helicopters will be shot down by F-7 jets.

you just made a worse mistake by flying out helicopters with zero Gripen jet protection.

in my own simultaion i did not expect south african navy to use ordinary helicopters against a powerful military like nigeria. in any case, the Rooivalk cannot use their mokopa missiles at 6km from nigerian coast and escape Roland SAM 8km range.

also, Rooivalk will not find the artillery and hit target from 6km, they need close range like 3km visual assistance to ensure they hit artillery guns and not something else like army trucks or civilian truck and industrial metals in the open because radar is s.tupid, it just goes after metals and cannot tell difference between carterpillar digger long neck and artillery gun.

nigeria is not Togo republic i keep telling you guys, you had a wrong impression of nigeria on pages 1 to 12 of this thread/topic. please update your knowledge now. [/b]


All this time our frigates are not sitting still. They are employing defensive maneuvers to make it difficult for you. The information the ATR-42 maritme patrol aircraft provides your artillery units may be correct when it is received. But your gunners will be firing almost all their shells into the water, because of our evasive maneuvers.



[b] south african warships will need to reduce moving around because fuel will be wasted and you are 5,000km away from home, you move too much you run out of fuel. south african warships are too slow, maximum speed is less than 1km per minute, nigerian artillery shells are too fast at muzzle velocity about 50km per minute.

also no matter how south african warships maneuver the nigerian satellites will lock on them and track them. outer space satellites can see a bicycle at the door of a bungalow house on planet earth and identify it clearly as a bicycle, a ship is bigger than thousands of bicycles.

the 3 nigerian satellites are the very advanced technology types that south africa does NOT have, and nigeria is superior to all african countries in satellite spy and track technology.

with 3 satellites imaging every minute and rolling the images together in a motion picture format it gives a similar effect to real time location of all south african warships and is relayed at the speed of telephone communication to artillery below combined with perfect GPS ocean position tracking and positioning every minute of the slow moving fuel wasting warships

QUOTE :

"The Federal Government has revealed that it will soon start using satellites to monitor the movement of suspected terrorists and their locations in the country.

Nigerian satalites NG- Sat 2 and NG-Sat X are high resolution satellites capable of giving high quality images from space.

The Director General of the National Space Research and Development Agency (NASRDA), Dr Seidu O. Mohammed said Nigeria will also use communications satellites and global positioning systems GPS to monitor every neighbourhood."

weblink source : http://www.informationng.com/2012/05/nigeria-to-use-satellites-to-monitor-suspected-terrorists.html



Now let me introduce you to the great super-modern ATR-42 Surveyor world class maritime patrol aircraft of nigeria that totally out-classes south african out-dated cucumber shaped year 1950 old Dakota maritime patrol aircraft


"The ATR 42 Surveyor, also known as the ATR 42 MP, is a derivative of proven ATR 42 aircraft developed to conduct maritime patrol missions and coastal surveillance.

It can load the wide spectrum of equipment required to conduct that kind of missions such as radar, FLIR, TV camera, Electronic Support Measures (ESM), Communications and Navigation systems. In addition, bubble panoramic windows have been provided to the Surveyor for optimal visual observation of the environment.

The ATR 42 Surveyor can remain on station for up to 8 hours at 200 nautical miles from its base airfield. To do so, the aircraft cruises at low loiter speed which facilitates target detection and tracking while it can change to higher speed at any time. The Italian Coast Guard uses ATR-42 to protect Italy's Economic Exclusive Zone (EEZ)"

weblink source : http://www.deagel.com/AEWandC-ISR-and-EW-Aircraft/ATR-42-Surveyor_a000090003.aspx

the nigerian surveyor has a target search and tracking radar, and TV real-time camera, plus a night vision all weather forward looking infar-red camers FLIR, its tracking range of 330km is safe enough away from the valour ships umkhonto SAM 15km short range, for the ATR-42 to stay in air for many hours to both monitor valour frigates maneuvers and record/relay in real time all the GPS locations to artillery commanders and also correct/re-direct artillery gun fire for great accuracy.

no navy warships in the world can hide and play games around nigerian coastal waters, nigerian military is far too advanced for that kind of tactics.

hundred of artillery firing at the ships is brilliantly intelligent, artillery commanders are very smart, they know your slow speed ship will try to maneuver so the spread the shells like a large fishing net all around the ships, some far behind , some far in front, some to left, some to right. wherever your warships turn to escape there is a rain of artillery shells everywhere around them, no place to hide in open sea, valour frigates will be placed in center of the shelling by artillery shells spread widely over them like a spiders web. you have never seen war of artillery mastery and you dont know battle field tactics.

you were not even expecting attack artillery from nigeria, you were waiting for NNS THUNDER and NNS ARADU which are safe inside niger dock off the sea, now on interland docks you dont know artillery rate of fire, 3 shells to 9 shells per minute, from 200 guns alone over 1,000 artillery shells per minute and 2,000 artillery shells in 2 minutes will rain all over and spread all around 4 south african warships in a surprise attack. in war history, no ships have ever survived that kind of very heavy bombardment in rapid fire mode. [/b]


All this time our Super Lynx 300 is passing information about your stationary artillery guns to our Frigates. At a rate of 80 rounds a minute we bombard your position from 20km away. 4 Frigates demolish your positions.


the Super Lynx will face the same shot down by nigerian F-7 jets. its like Cat vs Alsatian Dog combat.

all 4 south africa valour frigates have only a total of 4 main guns with range of only 16km maximum, to use these few you make mistake of coming closer to just 16km away from nigeria coast and expose to more nigerian artillery, the warships enter into a worse danger and will be sunk faster to sea bottom.

no country in all africa can penetrate nigeria's coastal defenses, all the enemy ships will be sunk to sea bottom like the four unlucky south african navy valour frigates end their careers, and may their souls R.I.P , amen.


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you need brainess before you can teach any thing


so effectively the SAN wins because you will block access to your own ports for us.

since when did nigeria get V-Lap, base bleed or GPS guided rounds, since when did nigeria get the archer system. Anserw these questions that i asked some time ago.

the mokape out ranges the type 90 and roland so will be perfectly safe.

the helicopters will be able to operate at night and fly low to avoid detection. and the frigats can come far closer than you like, see point on your guns far shorter range.

why do they need to come in that close do you have any idea how powerfully the optics on the frigates and helicopters are

why would full be a problem drakensberg will be just behind them ready to provide all the supplies they need.

your satellites do not have the ability to track targets and provided real time data to the guns. I have expanded there limitations to you before

actually only 2 of the nigerian sats have cameras and SA also has a observation Satellite.
and the data they give is not real time so it is pointless.

you have 2 MPA and that is not enough for a 24/7 surveillance on all of our ships it all so is unable to provide real time data to the guns.

and there is nothing stopping us to fire a G5 from the fwrd hello deck of the drakensberg.



some points you for got or neglected

You have no means of providing real time data to your guns any information will be relayed and not up to date by the time they fire, the valour can hid the IR signature and are a small radar target that will be able to jam the radar and radio of your 2 MPA aircraft.
The radar of the frigate can pick up and track the shells fired by your guns, thus allowing accurate evasion since those shell will travel to slow and from to great a distance to be a threat.
You forgot completely about drakensberg and the G5 that can be fired from it,s fwrd helo deck (weather depending and will need some reinforcement, or how it can refuel and resupply the frigates and sub.
you have not explained how nigeria will pull of the logistical feat of moving at max 590 guns (not 800) all the personal,ammunition, food, extra extra to the coast
you have not explained how 2 MPA aircraft will maintain a 24/7 watch
you have not explained how the guns will get this information has real time data.
you have not explained where nigeria got archer arty systems or high tech rounds

Augustine Again: .

nigerian satellites the most adavnced, rules africa from outer space.

[img]http://martianchronicles.files./2010/03/spy-satellite-300x300.jpg[/img]

only they were built in china and UK and SA has it,s own satlights

http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/secrecy-surrounds-satellite-images-of-the-car-1.1522258#.UbRGbPmmjTA

South Africa’s space agency has taken satellite images of the Central African Republic (CAR) for the SANDF, but officials

are unwilling to divulge reasons for such a move.

In a written reply to Parliament, Minister of Science and Technology Derek Hanekom last week confirmed the SA National Space Agency (Sansa) supplied images to “various government departments and entities of state, including but not limited to the SANDF”, but said the provision of such images was confidential.

Hanekom was responding to a written question by DA MP Junita Kloppers-Lourens about whether Sansa had supplied satellite images of the CAR to the SANDF, the minister of defence or the president between December 1 and March 31.

Kloppers-Lourens also asked for details of any such images.

South African troops deployed in the CAR were attacked by rebels in March, and 13 were killed.

“In the case of the SANDF, the stakeholder provides Sansa with the co-ordinates of the desired image, and therefore the accurate geographic location of the area of interest could be better responded to by the SANDF,” said Hanekom.

He added that Sansa did not supply images to the minister or the president.

The Star

Fighter Pilot: South Africas new built space station in partnership with Russia.

http://en.rian.ru/science/20130403/180426943.html

it is a tiny half useless project and NOT a space satellite, it is an earth ground located station NOT a space sation you d_umb g_oat. your universities in south africa gave you poor eduaction, people are talking space satellite you are posting telescope on earth. thats how you failed exam in school and say the teacher didnt like you because you compete with him for girlfriend.

read your own source above, i quote


"MOSCOW, April 3 (RIA Novosti) - The space tracking station that is being built in South Africa as part of Russia’s astrophysical project RadioAstron can only be used with the radio telescope, Federal Space Agency Roscosmos said on Wednesday.

Earlier in the day some media reported that next year Russia would be able to receive telemetry from other spacecraft with the help of the South African station.

The agreement that was signed in South Africa provides for cooperation in astrophysical research under the RadioAstron project."

So the ground-based tracking station will work only in the interest of this particular project."

nigeria remains the champion of african real satellites in space, for ever, amen.

Augustine Again:

it is a tiny half useless project and NOT a space satellite, it is an earth ground located station NOT a space sation you d_umb g_oat. your universities in south africa gave you poor eduaction, people are talking space satellite you are posting telescope on earth. thats how you failed exam in school and say the teacher didnt like you because you compete with him for girlfriend.

read your own source above, i quote


"MOSCOW, April 3 (RIA Novosti) - The space tracking station that is being built in South Africa as part of Russia’s astrophysical project RadioAstron can only be used with the radio telescope, Federal Space Agency Roscosmos said on Wednesday.

Earlier in the day some media reported that next year Russia would be able to receive telemetry from other spacecraft with the help of the South African station.

“The agreement that was signed in South Africa provides for cooperation in astrophysical research under the RadioAstron project.

So the ground-based tracking station will work only in the interest of this particular project."

point is no one is paying attention to the nigerian space agency

andrewza:

you need brainess before you can teach any thing


so effectively the SAN wins because you will block access to your own ports for us.

since when did nigeria get V-Lap, base bleed or GPS guided rounds, since when did nigeria get the archer system. Anserw these questions that i asked some time ago.

the mokape out ranges the type 90 and roland so will be perfectly safe.

the helicopters will be able to operate at night and fly low to avoid detection. and the frigats can come far closer than you like, see point on your guns far shorter range.

why do they need to come in that close do you have any idea how powerfully the optics on the frigates and helicopters are

why would full be a problem drakensberg will be just behind them ready to provide all the supplies they need.

your satellites do not have the ability to track targets and provided real time data to the guns. I have expanded there limitations to you before

actually only 2 of the nigerian sats have cameras and SA also has a observation Satellite.
and the data they give is not real time so it is pointless.

you have 2 MPA and that is not enough for a 24/7 surveillance on all of our ships it all so is unable to provide real time data to the guns.

and there is nothing stopping us to fire a G5 from the fwrd hello deck of the drakensberg.

some points you for got or neglected

You have no means of providing real time data to your guns any information will be relayed and not up to date by the time they fire, the valour can hid the IR signature and are a small radar target that will be able to jam the radar and radio of your 2 MPA aircraft.
The radar of the frigate can pick up and track the shells fired by your guns, thus allowing accurate evasion since those shell will travel to slow and from to great a distance to be a threat.
You forgot completely about drakensberg and the G5 that can be fired from it,s fwrd helo deck (weather depending and will need some reinforcement, or how it can refuel and resupply the frigates and sub.
you have not explained how nigeria will pull of the logistical feat of moving at max 590 guns (not 800) all the personal,ammunition, food, extra extra to the coast
you have not explained how 2 MPA aircraft will maintain a 24/7 watch
you have not explained how the guns will get this information has real time data.
you have not explained where nigeria got archer arty systems or high tech rounds

nigerian military forces will now watch all south african air force aircraft, missiles in the air and all south african army soldiers on the ground, as well as all south african navy warships on the oceans from above them in outer space like a television, and far beyond range out of reach of any south african weapon attack

nigeria has technological superiority over south africa and all other african nations from cape town to cairo, in strategic and tactical spying, reconnaissance and 24 hour monitoring/tracking and intelligence information, with 3 modern high power and high image quality space satellites and these new nigerian army domestically manufactured high-tech spy balloons newly launched into outer space to stay at about 300,000km above the earth.

winning a war is not all about manufacturing weapons with ranges extra 10km longer than other countries, war involves both ammunition and information.


http://thenationonlineng.net/new/news/army-devises-new-balloons-to-tackle-insecurity/


also, Nigeria's national coastal defence alignment built by Israel, gave the naval array coastal radars and command-and-control centers.

10 naval radar stations built along the coastline. two command-and-control centres at the Nigerian Navy's Western Command Lagos, and at the Eastern Command in Calabar. A national command-and-control centre is at navy headquarters in Ojo, Lagos.

All centers receive real-time surveillance information of the entire nigerian territorial oceans from lagos to calabar 24 hours daily.



@andrewza you are asking all over again exactly the same questions i spent my time to answer in detail in all my 3 posts on naval blockade...see why @patriot4 complains that you irritate people with either your slow understanding or deliberate twisting of truth like a snake.

sorry if you cannot locate the amswers to your questions in my 3 long posts on naval blockade, give the posts to your son to help you read and intertprete. its almost 6am in my world, i have to go to church soon. i will not repeat those answers again, the public readers can judge all south african posts versus mine.

Augustine Again:


@andrewza you are asking all over again exactly the same questions i spent my time to answer in detail in all my 3 posts on naval blockade...see why @patriot4 complains that you irritate people with either your slow understanding or deliberate twisting of truth like a snake.

sorry if you cannot locate the amswers to your questions in my 3 long posts on naval blockade, give the posts to your son to help you read and intertprete. its almost 6am in my world, i have to go to church soon. i will not repeat those answers again, the public readers can judge all south african posts versus mine.

i faule to see how my question were answered. If they where it is just a quto away. But they where not so i have to ask them again and i will ask for the source that gave incorrect information on the T-craft

Augustine Again:

it is a tiny half useless project and NOT a space satellite, it is an earth ground located station NOT a space sation you d_umb g_oat. your universities in south africa gave you poor eduaction, people are talking space satellite you are posting telescope on earth. thats how you failed exam in school and say the teacher didnt like you because you compete with him for girlfriend.

read your own source above, i quote


"MOSCOW, April 3 (RIA Novosti) - The space tracking station that is being built in South Africa as part of Russia’s astrophysical project RadioAstron can only be used with the radio telescope, Federal Space Agency Roscosmos said on Wednesday.

Earlier in the day some media reported that next year Russia would be able to receive telemetry from other spacecraft with the help of the South African station.

The agreement that was signed in South Africa provides for cooperation in astrophysical research under the RadioAstron project."

So the ground-based tracking station will work only in the interest of this particular project."

nigeria remains the champion of african real satellites in space, for ever, amen.

Why should we worry about satelites which we already have in space. Space tracking station has always been South Africas long dream.

South Africas SUNSAT was launched in 1999 and ten years later second satellite (Sumbandila Sat) was launched.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_National_Space_Agency

andrewza: http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/secrecy-surrounds-satellite-images-of-the-car-1.1522258#.UbRGbPmmjTA

South Africa’s space agency has taken satellite images of the Central African Republic (CAR) for the SANDF, but officials

are unwilling to divulge reasons for such a move.

In a written reply to Parliament, Minister of Science and Technology Derek Hanekom last week confirmed the SA National Space Agency (Sansa) supplied images to “various government departments and entities of state, including but not limited to the SANDF”, but said the provision of such images was confidential.

Hanekom was responding to a written question by DA MP Junita Kloppers-Lourens about whether Sansa had supplied satellite images of the CAR to the SANDF, the minister of defence or the president between December 1 and March 31.

Kloppers-Lourens also asked for details of any such images.

South African troops deployed in the CAR were attacked by rebels in March, and 13 were killed.

“In the case of the SANDF, the stakeholder provides Sansa with the co-ordinates of the desired image, and therefore the accurate geographic location of the area of interest could be better responded to by the SANDF,” said Hanekom.

He added that Sansa did not supply images to the minister or the president.

The Star

No use posting this. They will ignore it, because they can't counter it. If the SANDF has satellite imagery of CAR, its 150% possible that they have satellite imagery and information about Nigeria and its military installations if need be.

This is the basic logic of Agagaust that I have noticed. If Nigeria doesn't have something then they are most definitely developing it in secret. If South Africa doesn't publicly have something, there is no way we have it. There is no way we are secretly developing it, its impossible. He thinks every single South African defence program can be found on the internet.

Nigerian police force deploys personnel to mali

saengine:

No use posting this. They will ignore it, because they can't counter it. If the SANDF has satellite imagery of CAR, its 150% possible that they have satellite imagery and information about Nigeria and its military installations if need be.

This is the basic logic of Agagaust that I have noticed. If Nigeria doesn't have something then they are most definitely developing it in secret. If South Africa doesn't publicly have something, there is no way we have it. There is no way we are secretly developing it, its impossible. He thinks every single South African defence program can be found on the internet.

It is 200% possible that nigeria has satellite imagery and information on south Africa's military installations as we type.

The basic logic of south africans, and in particular @andrewza is if nigerian military hardware isn't found on his own net. Then it never exists, despite have in seen multiple links to prove that this particular equipment exists or exists in multiple variants. Case in point, BTR-3 and SAMs

Augustine Again:

bros i am still waiting for them to show me how the Gripen will hit Roland, i wont use Akash or TRACON or new nigerian produces 70km missiles, i will show them how 30 year old yugolsav SAM-3 shot down the much more modern american stealth jet fighters and F-16 in Bosnia war.

israeli air force is maybe the best in the world or second best, F00LISH egypt and co-arabs air defense missiles and guns shot down over 100 israeli air force jets in combat. air defense does not respect the new age of any jet fighter or the pilot, it is the worst nightmare of any air force.

israel is afraid of iran and syria's air defence and those are mostly not modern air defences at all.

america refused to fly jets and attack yugoslavia's army until certain things were done, USAF commnders said "yugoslav air defence is old, but still american jets will be shot down".

the Gripen will never hit the Roland without coming into its 18km radar or safe electro-optical with its 8km missile and that will be the end of those Gripen jets.

practicals of real war here today sir, i am going to render those Gripens useless today...and they only stay in the air for maximum 15 minutes, worse range than F-7 they ridicule.

Grippen combat radius 800km at speed 1,200km is 45mins from take off, to climb, travel to enemy territory, search/locate target, tarvel return to base and land, major weakness of over-rated Gripen jet is very poor range in real combat

Now fool this comment shows you not in the military.What is combat range and what we call ferry range.


Now 4 Grippens flew from AFB Waterkloof to Ethebbe, Uganda in late April with IRST-Missiles, A-Datars and other stand off full complement weapons including 24 Pavyway's, with only drop tanks(I already gave a link to this).

Can u @Aguagust tell mer what the distance between SA and Uganda is and how long SAAF will take to reach Ethebbe airbase which is over 3500KM away, 15min as you claim.

The gripens has over 3000km ferry range yet you claim it can only stay in the air for 15min. What the hell are you smoking


Now the Gripen's BVR rating and overall systems is far better then even the SU-27/30 yet. You talk about your Mig-21/F-7.;P The gripens and its newly member the latest Gripen NG is the only current fighter which can take on the Eurofighter Typhoon, and please even the Pakistani SU-30MK is no match even with its upgrades, its BVR is still no match.

Don't come here and talk about Israel who last had a true one on air combat in the 1970's and who only pick on nations without S-300 systems like Sudan and Palestine.


Mr have you ever heard of the RSA-III, which had the range in 1986 to reach Moscow and Washington when launched from SA.

You come here and talk about your 70km missile which your previous links said it still under development, yet you wanna compare yourself to the only African nation who ever possessed ICBM's and who still has the capability to launch a 4000km rocket whenever the need may arise, way before even Pakistan had nukes.


Please go sleep.

saengine:



This is the basic logic of Agagaust that I have noticed. If Nigeria doesn't have something then they are most definitely developing it in secret. If South Africa doesn't publicly have something, there is no way we have it. There is no way we are secretly developing it, its impossible. He thinks every single South African defence program can be found on the internet.

To be honest this description sounds/reads a lot, a whole lot like @Andrewza and not @agaugust. It fits, best describes @Andrewza's online persona.


This was the same way, we went back and fort about the AK-47 in nigerian service. We told @andrew and @syndergp, multiple times that the AK-47 might been widely in use in the army, but that is were it stops. Only the army deploys the AK-47/AKM in huge numbers.

We said to them the police use upgraded variants of the AK74, called the AK-74L (pictured above), GALIL- ACE and the TYPE-56c

The navy deploy the baretta CX4 storm carbine for her ratings and CTAR-21

The airforce the TAR-21, FN-parafal and AK-47

The DSS, FN-F2000, CTAR-21,FN-P90 and UZI-PRO.

The same way, we have gone over and over and over, over the same issues despite showing picture evidence and links to proof.

saengine:

No use posting this. They will ignore it, because they can't counter it. If the SANDF has satellite imagery of CAR, its 150% possible that they have satellite imagery and information about Nigeria and its military installations if need be.

This is the basic logic of Agagaust that I have noticed. If Nigeria doesn't have something then they are most definitely developing it in secret. If South Africa doesn't publicly have something, there is no way we have it. There is no way we are secretly developing it, its impossible. He thinks every single South African defence program can be found on the internet.

which is funny since i know of projects and systems that have made no mention on the news.

Henry120:

It is 200% possible that nigeria has satellite imagery and information on south Africa's military installations as we type.

The basic logic of south africans, and in particular @andrewza is if nigerian military hardware isn't found on his own net. Then it never exists, despite have in seen multiple links to prove that this particular equipment exists or exists in multiple variants. Case in point, BTR-3 and SAMs

When have i denied the BTR3, and show me proof nigeria has gotten those indian SAMs when they only just entering producstion

Henry120:


To be honest this description sounds/reads a lot, a whole lot like @Andrewza and not @agaugust. It fits, best describes @Andrewza's online persona.


This was the same way, we went back and fort about the AK-47 in nigerian service. We told @andrew and @syndergp, multiple times that the AK-47 might been widely in use in the army, but that is were it stops. Only the army deploys the AK-47/AKM in huge numbers.

We said to them the police use upgraded variants of the AK74, called the AK-74L (pictured above), GALIL- ACE and the TYPE-56c

The navy deploy the baretta CX4 storm carbine for her ratings and CTAR-21

The airforce the TAR-21, FN-parafal and AK-47

The DSS, FN-F2000, CTAR-21,FN-P90 and UZI-PRO.

The same way, we have gone over and over and over, over the same issues despite showing picture evidence and links to proof.

And the army is the one who will do most of the fighting, so it does not really matter what they use now does it.

And may I please please ask, why are all these simulations based on SA attacking Nigeria. Why not Nigeria attacking SA? I think we all know the answer to that

For some reason people may not have liked the frank reality of my comments and decided to get me banned. So I'll repost with a few

I don't know why Agaugust should worry further about restating our superior military knowledge and strategy to our South African friends who adamantly remain blinded by self-delusion and a baseless sense of supremacy. It is common knowledge that SA's high security zones and national keypoints are easily breachable by anyone, talkless of the highest bidder! The Gupta Jet landing fiasco at an Airforce base is still fresh to the world and all South Africans.

Let me complement Agaugust's simulation by saying ... No pilots ... no air power. Nigeria actually will not wait for Gripen planes to be deployed out of 2 Squadron Makhado Air Force Base in Limpopo. The Gripens and their pilots will never be able to take to the skies!! Our strategy will be to premptively decapitate your resources or personnel without causing collateral damage.

As such all that needs to be done is to have Nigerian Army SF commandos infiltrate the porous Makhado Base on a red mission to recee, secure, capture and "take out" your Gripen pilots. Of course we are capable!! And without a doubt the war would have been lost by SA before it ever begins. We know all of SA's national key points and we know what to do when the time comes. The Nigerian Armed Forces are supremely advantaged in the current situation where it's strike capacity and capabilities in modern warfare are underestimated by South Africa especially. Save for my sharing this strategy, there would be no way of countering such a surprise move by the NA SFs. Our satelite intel capabilities have been reasonably well showcased here on this thread.

The Nigerian Army is in your bare face! Brains and brawns combine better than mere brawns. So let things be. Shiny weapons and loud mouths will not hold ground against a Nigerian Armed Forces -- highly potent in war intel, and tactics than what the world knows or can truthfully acknowledge.

I am still restrained. But thanks, [b]Messrs Agaugust, Henry120, Donian007, et al, for sustaining this thread and forcing our SA friends to learn and to acknowledge fellow Africans in a more respectful way.
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To the mouthy Kwames, AwoduaGyans, and Mbuisis on this thread, you all are at liberty to continue in your sustained efforts to slander Nigeria. Nigeria isn't Ghana or Kenya. It is so shameful to see you basking in false satisfaction derived from the crumbs of your SA masters/benfactors whereas your countries of origin remain spineless entities in Africa's scheme of affairs.

QED

Henry120: With nigeria's 62 billion dollars in foreign reserves, it would be one hell of dog fight. As the airforce would hasten and upgrade her purchase 20 sukhoi-30MKK's and 24JF-17thunder block II. 13 F-7ni, 12 hongdu L-15 falcons, 10 upgraded alpha jets.

All assumptions made if a war between both countries occur within 6months.

Stop this $62bn because its a pipe dream unless you want investors run away from Nigeria or want a stock market crash.


By the way where has the $62bn came from last time I checked it was $50bn where has this Benin state witch craft came from to boost it to $62bn.

With a military budget of less then $4bn(smaller then SANDF) how the hell will you manage 20 sukhoi's and 150000 soldiers or more.


Those alpha's is useless it can only be useful against militants like B.oko Boys, not against conventional forces.


From purchasing aircraft to the date of having pilots fully competened takes atleast two years, so go play your ignorance on a arcade game.


If war occurs SA has the technological know how and expertise including the existing military industrial base to built anything from aircraft to ships and infantry systems if the need be to do such.

Now @Henry from signing a deal to delivert of hardware takes years(your Type-56 is proof of it) and by the way in combat the Gripen is way above the SU-30, that's why Russia is now replacing them with SU-35's, no new SU-27/30 have been built since 2011 so you will be getting second hand planes as usual, and for your info there's only two nations who fly the JFT-17 today no other country has it yet, and its not superior to the Gripen Jas-39D or the Gripen NG which is a counter to the F-35 and SU-35's.


I know you patriotic but a little more sense and logic has never killed anybody.

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saengine: And may I please please ask, why are all these simulations based on SA attacking Nigeria. Why not Nigeria attacking SA? I think we all know the answer to that

LMFAO!!!

saengine: And may I please please ask, why are all these simulations based on SA attacking Nigeria. Why not Nigeria attacking SA? I think we all know the answer to that

Listen fool, that's because we are not an aggressor nation. Our defence doctrine and procurement is specifically tailored for self-defence.

Hahahaha, lmfao, now let's laugh at your stu*pi*dity

Henry120:

Listen fool, that's because we are not an aggressor nation. Our defence doctrine and procurement is specifically tailored for self-defence.

There's no better comedian than a Nigerian.

patriot4:
These guys are so arrogant, they think they know us better than we know ourselves.

My broda, bottomline IGNORANCE AND SENSELESSNESS

saengine: And may I please please ask, why are all these simulations based on SA attacking Nigeria. Why not Nigeria attacking SA? I think we all know the answer to that

since you dont know what is called national defense policy, you can google it and educate yourself.

nigerian national defence policy is officially for defense focus, not aggression and attack

check most nigerian weapons, they are mostly defensive. good air defense, good patrol and reconnaisance, good coastal water patrol and protection, etc. get some more education about national policy and strategy, google it.

did south africa attack nigeria in that simulation ? no, your submarine stayed like a drowned fish under water, your warships ran away far from the coastline for fear of nigerian artillery fire-power, your air force had no jet aircraft to fly into nigeria, your army could not dare to land one single soldier on the shore of nigeria....do you call that an attack ?

do you have a dictionary ? check the meaning of attack. south africa in that simulation was actually hiding away from nigerian land, no courage to enter, that is a coward in simple common sense.

Fighter Pilot: There's no better comedian than a Nigerian.

there is no better F00L than a south african.

Henry120:

Listen fool, that's because we are not an aggressor nation. Our defence doctrine and procurement is specifically tailored for self-defence.

Hahahaha, lmfao, now let's laugh at your stu*pi*dity

So basically if you even dared try do it, you would be vapourised? Oh ok thanks. The main role of every defence force around the world is to protect the citizens of that particular country from an outside threat, so don't try make Nigeria sound special. But an ability must exist to be the aggressor if need be.

andrewza:



They represent the majorty of BH or even BH in genrial. Did the lead of BH not ask for internastiol help.

Ur foolishness is beyond imagination. First u say foreigners aint involved, we proved u wrong, now u knw foreigners r involvd , u say bcux bh calld 4 help. U r a fool. NOW AN EYEOPENER: Check d date of d second weblink it says , 200foreigners arrested 26/01/2012, now when did Shekau call 4 help. Go find out and compare or drown in ur stupidty.

saengine:

So basically if you even dared try do it, you would be vapourised? Oh ok thanks. The main role of every defence force around the world is to protect the citizens of that particular country from an outside threat, so don't try make Nigeria sound special. But an ability must exist to be the aggressor if need be.

Saengine you are very brilliant.

Fighter Pilot: South Africas SUNSAT was launched in 1999 and ten years later second satellite (Sumbandila Sat) was launched.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_National_Space_Agency

south african tiny satellite launched in 1999 expired about 3 years after, and is out of orbit like a lame one-legged man

second south african micro tiny satellite expired september 2012 according to your own source above.

south africa has never had a full size multi-purpose satellite, nigeria has 3 functioning with high tech



post source that clearly says south african space agency used their own satellite to photograph CAR, countries do pay other nations to help them get satellite images and send it to them because they dont have a functioning satellite, same way Ghana is paying nigeria to use our satellite get images and info sent to the Ghana space agency.

show us reliable proof of south africa's currently functioning full size multi-purpose satellite today ! south africa never hides anything, except its seleka rebels war casualties rate.