talkeverytime:
In today's world where there is lack of respect for spiritual authority and so much bad talks and accusation about men of God, people find it difficult to refer to a particular person as their pastor or man of God probably for the fear of being deceived or duped by the Pastor or being seen as a weak fellow for having "a Pastor".


It should be noted that for the case of this discussion, the word Pastor is used as a generic word for the five fold ministry (Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors and Evangelists).
Now, I've heard a lot of people say things like "I don't need a Pastor to tell me what God says", "I can read the Bible for myself", "God can talk to me anywhere and anytime, I don't need any MOG". Some have even gone as far as labeling all Pastors entrepreneurs and fraudsters. The question I will like to ask you is why did God give us these ministry gifts if we do not need them? In Ephesians 4 verse 11, the Bible says ;
"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers" KJV
So did God just give us these gifts that we do not need? No, we need them obviously and that's why he gave them to us. He told us the reason for giving them in the following verses. Ephesians 4 verse 12 - 14
"[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
[13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ
[14]That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; " KJV
I'm going to break down these reasons simpler for you to understand.

You need a "Pastor" to teach you.

I've explained that I'm using the word Pastor for the five fold ministry in this article, so I believe it shouldn't be a problem anymore.
Now you may say you can read the Bible and learn for yourself, I agree with you. In fact, you should read the Bible and know the word for yourself. But that doesn't replace the part of the Pastors, they are specially ordained by God for this purpose and there is an anointing upon their lives to carry it out.

You need someone to monitor your growth.

Yes, you do. Even though not all Pastors perform this properly but it's part of their job. They act like fathers to see to your well-being, your spiritual well-being particularly. Your spiritual well-being controls the physical, so once you perfect it there, you'll perfect it in other areas. So the Pastor watches you grow spiritually and detects when you're not making progress like you should do.

For correction .

This supports the point above. Your Pastor is there to correct you when you miss it. Once he detects that you're doing the wrong thing or not doing something right, he comes in.

You need a Pastor to inspire and motivate you.

You can say this is the work of a motivational speaker. Calm down. What I mean is you need someone to inspire you to do the things of God and to grow spiritually. That is what the Pastor should do with his teaching and his lifestyle.

You need a Spiritual Head to guide you.

There are just sometimes we need guidance. Yes, we have the HolySpirit to guide and direct us. But remember, one of the end reasons God gave us these five fold ministry is that "we should not be tossed to and fro" . It means these offices are required to keep us in a straight path. And you also need someone that represents you on the altar. You should not just pay your tithes to anyone and everyone. Take it to the Church (the church you attend; that is you must have a particular church) and give it in your church, that's where the blessing lies.

To protect you

Yes, your Pastor "keeps" you, through prayers, his word and prophecy over your life and his teachings. The fourteenth verse of Ephesians 11 suggests that Christians can be deceived by the cunning craftiness of men. This five fold ministry helps to prevent that and protect you.
So prayerfully seek for a church and join. Follow the leader attentively, it may be a Pastor, Prophet, Teacher, Apostle or Evangelist. They are all ordained for us.
This is where I'll stop for today. Please feel free to agree or disagree. Drop your comments


Source: http://www.talkeverytime.com/2017/09/6-reasons-you-need-pastor-in-your-life.html

lilmax:
we read the same bible, so I don't need a pastor

psp2pc:
I need Jesus not Pastor.

ironheart:
My bible did not tell me i need pastors. I only look up to Jesus the author and finisher of my faith

lovelygurl:




What more do I want in life

Let's ride on jare

ATIKUisCOOL:
Bros...
You don't need no Pastor in your life.
Pastors are mortals and humans.
All you need in your life is GOD!!!
Take note m

Pataricatering:
Pastors from experience are generally more criminal than their flock ! Most christians are quite decent people same can't be said abiut most pastors ! Remove tithing and see how pastors will reduce .

RapportNaija:


Think of it as some form of "mentorship", and you can clearly see the OP 6 reasons... Yes, we need God in our lives, but if it was just that, God would not have sent Moses, Noah, Jesus, and all other prophets to guide people on Earth!

Think, learn to read and think clearly!

OtemSapien:
Lol. I understand the topic to mean SIX REASON WHY YOU NEED A SCAMMER IN YOUR LIFE.

I wonder how a homosapien would need a pastor in his life when the word pastor itself has degenerated into the words 'womanizor' 'thief' etc, such that we now have Thief Big Joshua, Womanizor Suleiman, Thief Adebole, Thief Oledepo and co.

MhizzAJ:
I don't need a pastor to inspire and motivate me

Some of them are very selfish and careless

They are just humans...They aren't perfect either

I pray to God before reading the Bible...so i don't need a specially ordained 'Man of God' to interpret the word to me...

talkeverytime:
In today's world where there is lack of respect for spiritual authority and so much bad talks and accusation about men of God, people find it difficult to refer to a particular person as their pastor or man of God probably for the fear of being deceived or duped by the Pastor or being seen as a weak fellow for having "a Pastor".


It should be noted that for the case of this discussion, the word Pastor is used as a generic word for the five fold ministry (Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors and Evangelists).
Now, I've heard a lot of people say things like "I don't need a Pastor to tell me what God says", "I can read the Bible for myself", "God can talk to me anywhere and anytime, I don't need any MOG". Some have even gone as far as labeling all Pastors entrepreneurs and fraudsters. The question I will like to ask you is why did God give us these ministry gifts if we do not need them? In Ephesians 4 verse 11, the Bible says ;
"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers" KJV
So did God just give us these gifts that we do not need? No, we need them obviously and that's why he gave them to us. He told us the reason for giving them in the following verses. Ephesians 4 verse 12 - 14
"[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
[13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ
[14]That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; " KJV
I'm going to break down these reasons simpler for you to understand.

You need a "Pastor" to teach you.

I've explained that I'm using the word Pastor for the five fold ministry in this article, so I believe it shouldn't be a problem anymore.
Now you may say you can read the Bible and learn for yourself, I agree with you. In fact, you should read the Bible and know the word for yourself. But that doesn't replace the part of the Pastors, they are specially ordained by God for this purpose and there is an anointing upon their lives to carry it out.

You need someone to monitor your growth.

Yes, you do. Even though not all Pastors perform this properly but it's part of their job. They act like fathers to see to your well-being, your spiritual well-being particularly. Your spiritual well-being controls the physical, so once you perfect it there, you'll perfect it in other areas. So the Pastor watches you grow spiritually and detects when you're not making progress like you should do.

For correction .

This supports the point above. Your Pastor is there to correct you when you miss it. Once he detects that you're doing the wrong thing or not doing something right, he comes in.

You need a Pastor to inspire and motivate you.

You can say this is the work of a motivational speaker. Calm down. What I mean is you need someone to inspire you to do the things of God and to grow spiritually. That is what the Pastor should do with his teaching and his lifestyle.

You need a Spiritual Head to guide you.

There are just sometimes we need guidance. Yes, we have the HolySpirit to guide and direct us. But remember, one of the end reasons God gave us these five fold ministry is that "we should not be tossed to and fro" . It means these offices are required to keep us in a straight path. And you also need someone that represents you on the altar. You should not just pay your tithes to anyone and everyone. Take it to the Church (the church you attend; that is you must have a particular church) and give it in your church, that's where the blessing lies.

To protect you

Yes, your Pastor "keeps" you, through prayers, his word and prophecy over your life and his teachings. The fourteenth verse of Ephesians 11 suggests that Christians can be deceived by the cunning craftiness of men. This five fold ministry helps to prevent that and protect you.
So prayerfully seek for a church and join. Follow the leader attentively, it may be a Pastor, Prophet, Teacher, Apostle or Evangelist. They are all ordained for us.
This is where I'll stop for today. Please feel free to agree or disagree. Drop your comments


Source: http://www.talkeverytime.com/2017/09/6-reasons-you-need-pastor-in-your-life.html

MhizzAJ:
I don't need a pastor to inspire and motivate me

Some of them are very selfish and careless

They are just humans...They aren't perfect either

I pray to God before reading the Bible...so i don't need a specially ordained 'Man of God' to interpret the word to me...

AvatarMode:

I doubt if you do. Its better you don't speak when you know nothing of a matter. At least some of us will still regard you as being wise.
If you are interested at all,
see Ephesians 4: 11- 15. Keep rejecting what JESUS has given to you. One of you is wiser, and it is not you. So one is unwise- it has to be you.

talkeverytime:
In today's world where there is lack of respect for spiritual authority and so much bad talks and accusation about men of God, people find it difficult to refer to a particular person as their pastor or man of God probably for the fear of being deceived or duped by the Pastor or being seen as a weak fellow for having "a Pastor".


It should be noted that for the case of this discussion, the word Pastor is used as a generic word for the five fold ministry (Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors and Evangelists).
Now, I've heard a lot of people say things like "I don't need a Pastor to tell me what God says", "I can read the Bible for myself", "God can talk to me anywhere and anytime, I don't need any MOG". Some have even gone as far as labeling all Pastors entrepreneurs and fraudsters. The question I will like to ask you is why did God give us these ministry gifts if we do not need them? In Ephesians 4 verse 11, the Bible says ;
"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers" KJV
So did God just give us these gifts that we do not need? No, we need them obviously and that's why he gave them to us. He told us the reason for giving them in the following verses. Ephesians 4 verse 12 - 14
"[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
[13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ
[14]That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; " KJV
I'm going to break down these reasons simpler for you to understand.

You need a "Pastor" to teach you.

I've explained that I'm using the word Pastor for the five fold ministry in this article, so I believe it shouldn't be a problem anymore.
Now you may say you can read the Bible and learn for yourself, I agree with you. In fact, you should read the Bible and know the word for yourself. But that doesn't replace the part of the Pastors, they are specially ordained by God for this purpose and there is an anointing upon their lives to carry it out.

You need someone to monitor your growth.

Yes, you do. Even though not all Pastors perform this properly but it's part of their job. They act like fathers to see to your well-being, your spiritual well-being particularly. Your spiritual well-being controls the physical, so once you perfect it there, you'll perfect it in other areas. So the Pastor watches you grow spiritually and detects when you're not making progress like you should do.

For correction .

This supports the point above. Your Pastor is there to correct you when you miss it. Once he detects that you're doing the wrong thing or not doing something right, he comes in.

You need a Pastor to inspire and motivate you.

You can say this is the work of a motivational speaker. Calm down. What I mean is you need someone to inspire you to do the things of God and to grow spiritually. That is what the Pastor should do with his teaching and his lifestyle.

You need a Spiritual Head to guide you.

There are just sometimes we need guidance. Yes, we have the HolySpirit to guide and direct us. But remember, one of the end reasons God gave us these five fold ministry is that "we should not be tossed to and fro" . It means these offices are required to keep us in a straight path. And you also need someone that represents you on the altar. You should not just pay your tithes to anyone and everyone. Take it to the Church (the church you attend; that is you must have a particular church) and give it in your church, that's where the blessing lies.

To protect you

Yes, your Pastor "keeps" you, through prayers, his word and prophecy over your life and his teachings. The fourteenth verse of Ephesians 11 suggests that Christians can be deceived by the cunning craftiness of men. This five fold ministry helps to prevent that and protect you.
So prayerfully seek for a church and join. Follow the leader attentively, it may be a Pastor, Prophet, Teacher, Apostle or Evangelist. They are all ordained for us.
This is where I'll stop for today. Please feel free to agree or disagree. Drop your comments


Source: http://www.talkeverytime.com/2017/09/6-reasons-you-need-pastor-in-your-life.html

saraki2019:
anyone buried without the acknowledgement will go to hell
WHY YOU don't need jesus
“I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24).
Jesus selected Jewish disciples, spoke in Jewish synagogues and the Jewish temple, and traveled mostly in Jewish areas. His mission, in fulfillment of the Jewish prophets, was to the Jewish people.
“a Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, ‘Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly’” (Matthew 15:22).
This Gentile woman recognized Jesus as the Messiah (“Son of David”), but “Jesus did not answer a word” (verse 23). As the woman kept up her appeals, Jesus finally responded, but His words seemed to hold little hope: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel” (verse 24)
Jesus’ concern for Israel was shown in the instructions to the twelve disciples as He sent them out on their first preaching mission. “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles,” He said, “and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matt 10:5-6).
and is lam comfirmed it
And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic." quran 61:6

this is why we africans and the other races do not jesus or christainity
we need islam sent to the whole of the world
the qur'an confirms it
(oh muhammad) We have not sent thee, save as a mercy unto all beings. quran (21:107)

talkeverytime:

To protect you

Yes, your Pastor "keeps" you, through prayers, his word and prophecy over your life and his teachings. The fourteenth verse of Ephesians 11 suggests that Christians can be deceived by the cunning craftiness of men. This five fold ministry helps to prevent that and protect you.
So prayerfully seek for a church and join. Follow the leader attentively, it may be a Pastor, Prophet, Teacher, Apostle or Evangelist. They are all ordained for us.
This is where I'll stop for today. Please feel free to agree or disagree. Drop your comments


Source: http://www.talkeverytime.com/2017/09/6-reasons-you-need-pastor-in-your-life.html

OtemSapien:
Lol. I understand the topic to mean SIX REASON WHY YOU NEED A SCAMMER IN YOUR LIFE.

I wonder how a homosapien would need a pastor in his life when the word pastor itself has degenerated into the words 'womanizor' 'thief' etc, such that we now have Thief Big Joshua, Womanizor Suleiman, Thief Adebole, Thief Oledepo and co.

BluntBoy:


First, you are getting a lot of things wrong.

The term Man of God has now become an exclusive appellation for pastors. This is totally wrong. A man or woman of God is one who walks before God and is blameless. This person does not need to be a religious leader within a corporate religious body. All he needs to do is to love God sincerely and how can you love God sincerely? It is by loving the Poor (the least of your brethren). God is Love. You don't need titles to love God.

Also, everyone needs everyone in the Church. We are all priests united by the Eternal priesthood of Christ who is the Chief Priest. Christ is the only one who is indispensable. You don't need the protection of your pastors or someone to represent you on a Man-made altar. All those are traditions of men which ended with the Blood shed on the cross of Calvary.

To better understand the Church, read extensively on the Early Church.

Topgainer:

Pastorpreneurs fighting back with all kinds of logic. Who told you that the Jewish Temple = Church, regarding tithe? Which type of Biblical tithe (Abraham spoils of war or the Jewish Agricultural produce) are they to bring to your Church.
Sorry, I had to quote all. It is exactly the rubbish people subscribe to that has made a lot of men robots in the hands of cleverer men, who manipulate and control every inch of breathing space the conquered could have. They control people's homes, work, income (most important), relationships, movements, career choices and ultimately peoples will. Jesus is the only spiritual head a christian should have, He alone inspires, motivates, protects and preserves.

I am yet to understand the sudden surge of miscreants looking for who to call them Papa and Daddy.

The wrongest part of your twisted interpretation of the bible passage is the segregation of 'us and they'. If you understand that the Pastor, Prophet, Teacher, Apostle or Evangelist are categories the totality of us fall into with each complementing the other, you will stop spreading that King (Pastor, Papa-Daddy) and the slaves ( the gullibles that need a Pastor) doctrine. The five fold ministry is given to believers and in a healthy gathering of the believers everyone must fall into a category, without 'Paparing and Daddifying' one brother out of many.
If your notion of needing a Pastor does not accomodate that the Pastor needs you that is a teacher, an evangelist, a prophet or an Apostle to the extent that you share in all good things as much as he is entitled to, then your teachings negates that of Christ. It is then the idolatrous worship of gods of men, the pastor enterpreneurs you talked of and their branch managers.

udeh3:


IN the old testament or church, we had leaders or priest such as ELI, SAMUEL, JOSHUA, ELIJAH, etc

The list can go on. No one is perfect, that is true, but it's God that gives perfection by His empowerment

Even after that death of Jesus, the disciples continued to be leaders and priest, mentors, etc We also had Peter, how come in Act 10 God had to send Peter to Cornelius？Even the bible stated that Cornelius was a godly man, he gives alms, pray, gives sacrifice, but needs Jesus, and Peter presence was needed, I can say here that Peter did the work of a Pastor. We had Paul, Timothy, etc

Please note that the 5 fold ministry is not a talent but a GIFT

BluntBoy:


Read these verses:

We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil. (Hebrews 5:11–14)

Many of you have been Christians for years, but still can't tell your left from your right. That is why you feel insecure spiritually. You think you must go to Oyedepo and the others to learn about the basics of the Word over and over again. And truthfully, how many of these pastors even want you to become independent of them? They would rather you remain under them and even serve their children when they die. All we have are mighty churches filled with baby Christians. Christians who will hardly be able to survive the Antichrist when he comes. Instead of building up strong Christians, we are building up mighty cathedrals and turning pastors into gods of men.

Here is another verse:

For when a one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men? 1 (Corinthians 3:4)

Those are the sort of baby Christians you get when you encourage Christians to depend on pastors. You get Christians who live only by the dictates of their Papa and Daddy GO. Christians who are too scared to examine the teachings of their teachers. Christians who elevate their Papa and Daddy GO to the place of God thereby usurping the true and only Pastor (Christ) in their lives.

The plan of God is that we be born of the Spirit, grow and become mature. How can a Christian mature spiritually when his teacher only teaches him how to be financially successful by tithing? Was that the responsibility of the elders in the Early Church? When did elders become motivational speakers when their responsibility was to guide the saints through the Word with the aid of the Holy Spirit, to feed the flock with the Word? How can Christians grow when the teacher is more concerned about building the biggest church auditorium, flying the most expensive jets and building universities up and down? How does preaching about tithes make a Christian grow spiritually?

Finally, like I wrote in my first post to you, no one is indispensable in the Church. We all need to be subject to one another, not to someone who calls himself a pastor.

and be subject to one another in the fear of Christ. (Ephesians 5:21)

udeh3:


What exactly is your point, the last time I checked, you have deviated from the topic to emotions. From my reply to your quote, I never mentioned the name of any MOG

A pastor is one who feeds the flocks and taking oversight functions 1 Pet 5:2. Of cause, I'm not saying that there are no person using the name of God to enrich themselves, the scripture and God is aware of that. Why not allow God be the judge, let the pastors carryon with their functions and you do yours

Even if you must educate any, learn to do it in love and not being insultive

May God help us all