Mujtahida:

I agree with you on Gbile and the rest you have mentioned.
The church has always sought to substitute itself for Christ. This is the era of christless Christianity. It takes a deeply spiritual Christian to notice what's going on. Majority are blind, tragically blind to the monstrous fraud and deception going on in the churches.

My brother carry on the work. I have left Christianity. I am only saying all I have said so that those who regard themselves as Christians will realise what's going on.

If you are interested go online and read preaching Christ by Charles mcllvaine at www. gracegems. com and go to www.austinsparks.net (warning: if you are not strong please don't read Austin Sparks)

miketayo:


but he dodged the message and targeted the messenger.. Shows daddy freeze has a point.. Pastor Enoch just fall my hand big time with this video

HsLBroker:
Daddy Freezer, you see your life, where is that meme

NwaAmaikpe:



This man is a blatant liar guilty of blasphemy

God asked him to listen.

The way these pastors call their intuition or conscience 'God' makes me sick

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I think Pastor Adeboye was not replying to Freeze. The OP just twisted the whole stuff, Pastor Adeboye was replying to a post of another fellow and not Freeze. The OP just twsited the whole thing to gain traffic

SageTravels:


Clapp for yourself.

Maybe you don't know Jesus did not use a phone talk more about registering as a nairander. why don't you follow Jesus footstep by doing exactly what he does?



Just wondering where you kept your sense. Goan read 1 John 4:1

The things of God is not for a Kanal man like u and Freeze. thats why He said John 4:24

The Bible which is God's word is not a dictionary. Even Devil Can quote Bible front and Back without mistakes.

If you claim to be a Christian, you should have a Discerning Spirit working perfectly in you. You don't need Freeze to tell you what to do

Adeebiwa09:


Lolx yes sir I love your disclaimer but haven know what I know I don't think any body in the world not even an angel can persuade me otherwise. Meanwhile what do you mean by you have left Christianity

Mrnairalandd:
Daddyfreeze didn’t say that, this man lied to his congregation when he didn’t know how to defend their scam.

I stopped paying tithe the day i saw my Bishop first son of my age driving the best car and living in opulence. I am not saying they should live in poverty but if millions of people are making contributions towards these churches week in week out, i think there should be a Housing, food and other essential provisions for the homeless, widows, widowers, orphans, social responsibilities like roads instead of flying all over the world and building universities.

I asked myself, is this stupidity or smartness on my part?

I look at the white people who brought this religion to Africa, i realised that they don’t give F about religion and their continent is far more prosperous than Africa where poverty reigns supreme.


I went further to ask myself this question, if these white folks could ignored all the God’s commandments in the bible and Quran and remained the most powerful and prosperous Nations on earth despite all their stance on homosexuality and others, i better have a rethink about religion which i did.

Another question that begged for answers then was, why did God who created heaven and earth abandoned Africans when His gospel was being preached. Why did He leave it for Europeans and Arabs to bring these religions to our continent cos i think it should have been made automatically universal instead of continental.

CampuChan:
Even his church members didn't believe the lies.

Adeboye didn't talk about owning fleets of aircraft, instead he lied about Daddyfreeze.
Daddyfreeze never said churches should use tithe money to buy alcohol.
His anger is towards billionaire Pastors. The ones who enjoy opulent lifestyles but tell their congregants their reward is in heaven.

Jesus Christ was not wearing gold shoes even though we knew he could. Jesus lived a simple life unlike our millionaire pastors.

Easier for a poor and repentant thief to enter into heaven than these multi millionaire pastors, their heaven is already here on earth.

They will tell you to donate half your salary promising you that God would repay you tenfold.

And I asked them: How much tithes did Dangote, Mark Zuckerberg Bill Gate pay to become so wealthy?
God would bless you if you obey him not if you pay tithes. Money means nothing to God.

divineappo:
where is this house located? i mean the house u avertised, which state, and which area ?

kingkakaone:

Is the house for sale at that same price?
if yes, then...
where's this building located?

Mujtahida:

Please don't get my warning on Austin Sparks wrong. Not at all. I mean that he's so Christ centered in his teachings that if you are not strong, if you are a christless Christian you will not finding his teaching easy on your palates. Please try and read him. He's in the same mould as Watchman Nee, Charles Spurgeon (please read Spurgeon I beg you) A W Tozer, Christopher Blumhardt etc

On leaving Christianity? Hahahaha hahahaha. I can't go into that here. Let's not derail the thread. Cheers

ibolomo:

and who told you Jesus never wore "gold shoes" while he was on earth?
I mean, his clothes were so fine that the soldier's had to cast lots to ascertain who would inherit them, not minding how bloodied they were.
there are several examples in scripture of rich people who were righteous.
I'm in no way exonerating the super billionaire pastors who flaunt wealth, they are also wrong.
And the new doctrine of giving that is circulated in the Body of Christ right now is mostly erroneous and a result of covetousness both on the part of the pastors and the congregation.
The balance is that people even though rich (including pastors), shouldn't count the riches as something to hold on to for relevance.

Rockyrocky:


If you drop religious sentiments and listen to them rationally, all these men of god talk is nonsense.

XXLDICK:
He was definitely not referring to Freeze because Freeze never made such statement.

One thing about this pastors is that they will never address this tithe issue once and for all, they will just keep beating around the bush


Every sane mind knows that tithing as a Christian is wrong
God bless you for this .. I just highlighted this place in my bible for another block head or pastorprenier that will want to argue with me



Modified: I just made a little research and Freeze made a comment similar to that and he was purposely quoted out of context by dubious Adeboye. I just lost more respect for the man.


And Freeze was right.

Deuteronomy 14: 25 and 26.


22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.

Bunmiaji:
may God Almighty in his infinite mercy forgive you

hadaydhollarpo:
[q2t b898bb8vhgguote author=aribisala0 post=62129788] What is wrong with poverty and so great about being rich in Christian teaching??
.Did Jesus advocate wealth? Was he rich?

every child of God has the power to claim riches in as much as it does not affect their relationship with God. The bible stated clearly by His stripes we were healed, He become poor as I may might be rich. These words are meant for those who believe and can claim it . It is biblical as long as it does not determine your relationship with God.

Slaveman343:
See how you left your God and are worshipping a man.

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I think Pastor Adeboye was not replying to Freeze. The OP just twisted the whole stuff, Pastor Adeboye was replying to a post of another fellow and not Freeze. The OP just twsited the whole thing to gain traffic

Osashalom:

You are very confused. God have mercy on you

jstriker442:


I doff my hat for this. Where do you reside my friend, u need a cold bottle of anything you wish. Bless you

Bunmiaji:
may God Almighty in his infinite mercy forgive you

TCF1980:
Nice one there.

Going further away from Deutronomy, the Israelites went haywire and doing their things their own way without giving the 10% to the House of the Lord any longer afterward leading to the duties of the Levites being merchandised. Remember, Moses didn't include Aaron's household to own fields...

And it came to pass that people now summon the Levites (Priest) to conduct offering/sacrifices meant for the high places in their respective homes which was then against the laws but for the 'sake of man must wack', the priests succumbed as there was no food any longer in the house. Hence, Malachi's lamentation.

Secondly, Israel of old were agrarian society and most of their crops are annuals than perennials. If it were to be monthly harvests, perhaps, Deutronomy 14:25 - 26 must have been written to suit the situation...

Old testament is 99% Jewish Custom/tradition and their general wellbeing...

CampuChan:
Even his church members didn't believe the lies.

Adeboye didn't talk about owning fleets of aircraft, instead he lied about Daddyfreeze.
Daddyfreeze never said churches should use tithe money to buy alcohol.
His anger is towards billionaire Pastors. The ones who enjoy opulent lifestyles but tell their congregants their reward is in heaven.

Jesus Christ was not wearing gold shoes even though we knew he could. Jesus lived a simple life unlike our millionaire pastors.

Easier for a poor and repentant thief to enter into heaven than these multi millionaire pastors, their heaven is already here on earth.

They will tell you to donate half your salary promising you that God would repay you tenfold.

And I asked them: How much tithes did Dangote, Mark Zuckerberg Bill Gate pay to become so wealthy?
God would bless you if you obey him not if you pay tithes. Money means nothing to God.

XXLDICK:
He was definitely not referring to Freeze because Freeze never made such statement.

One thing about this pastors is that they will never address this tithe issue once and for all, they will just keep beating around the bush


Every sane mind knows that tithing as a Christian is wrong




Modified: I just made a little research and Freeze made a comment similar to that and he was purposely quoted out of context by dubious Adeboye. I just lost more respect for the man.


And Freeze was right.

Deuteronomy 14: 25 and 26.


22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.

maximunimpact:
yahoo++ boys

NwaAmaikpe:



This man is a blatant liar guilty of blasphemy

God asked him to listen.

The way these pastors call their intuition or conscience 'God' makes me sick