kay29000:
It is a very complicated topic. Let me share my experience. I went to see a girl... It was already set in our minds that we were going to have sex. So, when I got there, we started off immediately. After a few seconds, she asked me to stop and begged me to leave. I was vexed, and I left. She called me on the phone and apologized, saying she was doing something like that for the first time, and felt somehow. But she then said I should have tried to maybe play with her/smooch her a little, maybe she would have gotten in the mood.

So, a few days later, she called again. And I specifically told her I ain't down for bullshiit. Hope you are sure this is what you want this time? She said yes. So, I went to her apartment again. She always turns the light off before I enter. She was already naked when I entered, and I started off with the position she said was her favorite (doggy), and then, after two minutes she asks me to stop again. So I remembered what she told me on the phone, and I slow down and try to smooch her boobs, that's how the girl said, "I'll shout rape o! I told you to stop." I jejeli stopped, wore my clothes, left her house and told her via a message I didn't want to have anything to do with her again.

Women are really complicated.

Lmao . Just imagine.

uk10:
there was a topic brought to nairaland about a man being raped by 3 women,and u women were busy finding it funny and claiming that he enjoyed it

Mynd44:

So you are saying consent by coercion is consent?

TSOM:
If you make sensually suggestive comments at or about a female who isn't into you or isn't edging you on actively or passively, you are sexually harassing her.

A lot of male Nairalanders are guilty of this. A female comments and the next is, " You look beautiful. You would be sweet in bed o. I'll fûck you till you cûm..." Such perversion.

The sad thing is, female Nairalanders ( Romancelanders, especially) revel in this and later complain about being regard as nothing more than sexual objects.

Mynd44:
Is there a need to call this "men's corner" or other forms of couch group counselling sessions? Lets just gist and talk.

I mentioned "men's corner" because men are the most likely to rape and more than 90% of rape cases have involved men being the aggressor.

From http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rape,



So basically consent right? But is it all about consent?

Imagine a lady comes to visit you and at 1am, you ask her for sex. She turns you down and you threaten to throw her out knowing well that she has nowhere to go at that time and she is also in danger if she does and because of that, she agrees, is that consent?

Imagine the Manager asking one of the receptionists for sex with the receptionist knowing well that she is at risk of losing her job so she agrees. Is that consent?

Your girl visits you, you make those romantic moves but she was not all for it and says no so you "lockup" two hours later, you take her out, buy her drinks and when you are both home, you have sex with her, she probably even took your shirt off for you but is that consent?

You are a civil servant and someone wants a file submitted but you tell her to come see you in the photocopy room first, she agrees but is that consent?

We as men need to do better. We need to drop the bullshit and rise about it.

A girl is walking down the road and you and your friends turn it into a chance to make unsavory noises cos you think they are compliments…but isnt that harassment?

You have convinced yourself that women say no but mean yes. Bruh, dont play that game……no does not and will not mean yes. Even silence does not mean yes. Because she is wet is not even mean consent. What's the worst that can happen if you dont have sex when turned on?


Can we discuss this more? Lets be better for our women and maybe the world will be a lil bit better

Sagamite:


This is a prevalent issue taking place in the UK, where stupid c*nt SJWs and Liberals are bastardising the meaning of "harassment" to suit their nonsense anti-men (misandry) activities as usual.

These morons have turned putting a hand on a woman you know's knees as "sexual harassment", but of course if she puts a hand on your knee it is not. Moronic bastards!

Here is the hierarchy of how it should work in the law for your benefit:

1) Rape - The act of non-consensually putting your sex organ in (or on) the 3 sexual orifices (mouth, anus and pussssssy) of someone else.

2) Sexual Assault - The act of non-consensually touching the sex organs and primary attraction tools of someone else.

3) Sexual Harassment - The repeated act of unwanted sexual proposition after the intended target has clearly expresses their lack of interest/annoynace, worse still, if there is a threat of consequences if they don't acquiesce.

4) Inappropriate behaviour - The act of (i) non-consensually touching someone sexually (in parts that are not their sex organs or attraction tools) repeatly, (ii) exposing ones self to another person who you have no prior consensual intimacy with or (iii) talking sexually to a person who is not interested, and who you have no prior consensual intimacy with, in a PROFESSIONAL setting.

5) Unwanted advances - The act of attempting to (i) woo someone by approaching them verbally, (ii) woo someone by touching them non-aggressively in a non-sexual organ part of their anatomy ONCE or (iii) sexually propositioning them until the point they express firm lack of interest/annoyance

No 1 to 3 should be criminal offences.

For No 4, the naked bit (4ii) should be a light criminal offence while the other 2 should be a caution at best if needed.

No 5 is not a criminal offence and part of life everyone should get used to, otherwise they are free to commit suicide.

Both men and women should be guilty of all if they occur. Not only men as some c*nts would want it to be.

Ikillfools:
Jesus! so you're saying I and Lezz have been sexually harassing ladies here? wow!

If she replies with "LOL", " You're such a flirt", "You're so good with words you can make any woman swoon" or something in that region, she's tacitly given you consent actively or passively. Then it isn't sexual harassment.

But if she replies with "Leave me alone", " I am not interested" or she ignores you and, still, you continue making sexually suggestive comments about her , you are sexually harassing her.

A lot of Nairaland males are guilty of the second. The blunt truth of it.

Mynd44:

This is wrong on all levels. Is she responsible for his sexual frustration?

Mynd44:

But why should you because you gave a gift think you are entitled to sex? Why no say you can't give?

Afritop:

Of course she is not but she should not intentionally dare him.
3 YEARS AGO AN HALF NAKED MAD MAN RAPED A LADY IN PUBLIC BECAUSE OF THAT

pocohantas:
I would only consider the use of force to have sex as rape, this force includes using drugs on the victim.

The women who traded sex for jobs and favours, have no case to me. I'll call that sexual harrassment, but when she gives in, I don't count it as rape.

bekpo:



She's saying rubbish, is she not his wife? Is it not her duty to consummate her marriage? What's d essence of marriage if couples r not ready to consummate their marriage?

pocohantas:
I would only consider the use of force to have sex as rape, this force includes using drugs on the victim.

The women who traded sex for jobs and favours, have no case to me. I'll call that sexual harrassment, but when she gives in, I don't count it as rape.

TSOM:

If she replies with "LOL", " You're such a flirt", "You're so good with words you can make any woman swoon" or something in that region, she's tacitly given you consent actively or passively. Then it isn't sexual harassment.

But if she replies with "Leave me alone", " I am not interested" or she ignores you and, still, you continue making sexually suggestive comments about her , you are sexually harassing her.

A lot of Nairaland males are guilty of the second. The blunt truth of it.

Mynd44:

Can we say it is wrong to call all men potential rapists when we men question what women wear based on assault? We say a woman wears a skimpy top hence she asks for it or tempts the man.


We say why are women outside after a certain hour cos we know it is not safe.......isn't that implying that no woman is safe?

pocohantas:
I would only consider the use of force to have sex as rape, this force includes using drugs on the victim.

The women who traded sex for jobs and favours, have no case to me. I'll call that sexual harrassment, but when she gives in, I don't count it as rape.

Mynd44:

We are all for rasong better sons ma'am but how about the present generation of women who have to deal with this women? Isnt it good if these men can unlearn the things this patriarchal society has taught them and learn to be better husbands, partners, lovers, fathers, brothers, uncles and humans.

That's the point of this thread. How men can be better

Ikillfools:
Okay. regarding the second point, I'm guilty as charged. but only one female i've made such remark on and she rebuffed me, MizMyColi.

but still, if it's as you say, one can't make a remark about a lady without being accused of sexually harassing her. like a lady have a big butt, and you compliment her, she rebuffed you... I mean, you're saying the truth for pete's sake.

sometimes it's never easy with women. like it's never easy at all.

MhisTahrah:
Wife not sex object.Sex is not a right that comes with marriage.It is not a wife's duty.

...She can't open her legs simply because her husband wants it. She doesn't give up her right to say yes or no the day she gets married.

...Wives do not belong to their husbands.Sex should be based on consent.

...However wives should under no circumstances withold sex from their husbands except there is a genuine reason for this.And even when she does,you have no right to rape her.

Mynd44:

Can we say it is wrong to call all men potential rapists when we men question what women wear based on assault? We say a woman wears a skimpy top hence she asks for it or tempts the man.

We say why are women outside after a certain hour cos we know it is not safe.......isn't that implying that no woman is safe?

Mynd44:
Is there a need to call this "men's corner" or other forms of couch group counselling sessions? Lets just gist and talk.

I mentioned "men's corner" because men are the most likely to rape and more than 90% of rape cases have involved men being the aggressor.

From http://www.dictionary.com/browse/rape,



So basically consent right? But is it all about consent?

Imagine a lady comes to visit you and at 1am, you ask her for sex. She turns you down and you threaten to throw her out knowing well that she has nowhere to go at that time and she is also in danger if she does and because of that, she agrees, is that consent?

Imagine the Manager asking one of the receptionists for sex with the receptionist knowing well that she is at risk of losing her job so she agrees. Is that consent?

Your girl visits you, you make those romantic moves but she was not all for it and says no so you "lockup" two hours later, you take her out, buy her drinks and when you are both home, you have sex with her, she probably even took your shirt off for you but is that consent?

You are a civil servant and someone wants a file submitted but you tell her to come see you in the photocopy room first, she agrees but is that consent?

We as men need to do better. We need to drop the bullshit and rise about it.

A girl is walking down the road and you and your friends turn it into a chance to make unsavory noises cos you think they are compliments…but isnt that harassment?

You have convinced yourself that women say no but mean yes. Bruh, dont play that game……no does not and will not mean yes. Even silence does not mean yes. Because she is wet is not even mean consent. What's the worst that can happen if you dont have sex when turned on?


Can we discuss this more? Lets be better for our women and maybe the world will be a lil bit better

TSOM:

Well, why every woman sort of uses sexual appeal as a requisite for reiterating her feminity, some women do not want to be regarded as just sexual objects or judged with the sensuality they supposedly exude.

When you repeatedly sexualize them, in essence , you are saying "Your boobs and bum are the only things about you I find interesting; not your intelligence or intuition or your kindness and stoic character. Just your boobs and bum, nothing more."

Daeylar:


They love presenting this argument but don't see where it shows men as weak or unable to control themselves,

But the moment women use it against them and call them weak, they at up in arms


Even if a woman is naked does not give anyone the right to rape her.

Daeylar:


They love presenting this argument but don't see where it shows men as weak or unable to control themselves,

But the moment women use it against them and call them weak, they at up in arms


Even if a woman is naked does not give anyone the right to rape her.