enilove:


How can you drop the law and look unto Jesus ?

very simple accepting to the depth of your soul that the law condemns and doesn't justify ,,, that its originally for the worst sinners so that they will be accountable to God, and knowing that even if you were perfect regarding the law like

Paul said "concerning the righteousness by the law I was blameless" but still he had to accept Christ ... Paul called the righteousness by the law self righteousness Phil 3;6-9

if Paul needed to accept Christ ,,,, then his own righteousness is like a curse ... its like Cain's sacrifice , who brought sacrifice to God from the ground which God has cursed .
so self righteousness is bringing righteousness to God from ourselves which God has condemned in Adam --- for in Adam we all sinned, and the wages of sin is death, and also in Adam all are condemned then definitely if I bring my own righteousness I will be condemned like Cain ....


so in other words looking unto Jesus means going to God asking for his spirit , continual fellowship with him in obedience love holiness for without holiness no man shall see God ,, , but holiness isn't keeping the law, holiness is living to God,,,,

if holiness were keeping the law which God knows wouldn't justify us ,, then Christ died in vain

Yes we are not under the law but under grace. You have to drop the law and follow the commands of Jesus Christ. To know His command you have to read the Bible.

Love God and Love your neighbor is the new command. If you love God, you will follow the commands of His son and if you love your neighbour you will not envy, jealous, kill, commit adultery......

◄ John 13:34 New International Version

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

Ferisidowu:


very simple accepting to the depth of your soul that the law condemns and doesn't justify ,,, that its originally for the worst sinners so that they will be accountable to God, and knowing that even if you were perfect regarding the law like

Paul said "concerning the righteousness by the law I was blameless" but still he had to accept Christ ... Paul called the righteousness by the law self righteousness Phil 3;6-9

if Paul needed to accept Christ ,,,, then his own righteousness is like a curse ... its like Cain's sacrifice , who brought sacrifice to God from the ground which God has cursed .
so self righteousness is bringing righteousness to God from ourselves which God has condemned in Adam --- for in Adam we all sinned, and the wages of sin is death, and also in Adam all are condemned then definitely if I bring my own righteousness I will be condemned like Cain ....


so in other words looking unto Jesus means going to God asking for his spirit , continual fellowship with him in obedience love holiness for without holiness no man shall see God ,, , but holiness isn't keeping the law, holiness is living to God,,,,

if holiness were keeping the law which God knows wouldn't justify us ,, then Christ died in vain

Yes. Holiness is the Holy Spirit living in you, which produces the character of Jesus.

Ferisidowu:


very simple accepting to the depth of your soul that the law condemns and doesn't justify ,,, that its originally for the worst sinners so that they will be accountable to God, and knowing that even if you were perfect regarding the law like

Paul said "concerning the righteousness by the law I was blameless" but still he had to accept Christ ... Paul called the righteousness by the law self righteousness Phil 3;6-9

if Paul needed to accept Christ ,,,, then his own righteousness is like a curse ... its like Cain's sacrifice , who brought sacrifice to God from the ground which God has cursed .
so self righteousness is bringing righteousness to God from ourselves which God has condemned in Adam --- for in Adam we all sinned, and the wages of sin is death, and also in Adam all are condemned then definitely if I bring my own righteousness I will be condemned like Cain ....


so in other words looking unto Jesus means going to God asking for his spirit , continual fellowship with him in obedience love holiness for without holiness no man shall see God ,, , but holiness isn't keeping the law, holiness is living to God,,,,

if holiness were keeping the law which God knows wouldn't justify us ,, then Christ died in vain

View my post below.... It might help

https://www.nairaland.com/4249732/what-jesus-done-case

JesusSonOfGod:



View my post below.... It might help

https://www.nairaland.com/4249732/what-jesus-done-case

thanks a lot God bless

Oracle16:

Yes. Holiness is the Holy Spirit living in you, which produces the character of Jesus.

thanks God bless you ... you guys may also share things with us has God has thought you in Providence

Ferisidowu:


very simple accepting to the depth of your soul that the law condemns and doesn't justify ,,, that its originally for the worst sinners so that they will be accountable to God, and knowing that even if you were perfect regarding the law like

Paul said "concerning the righteousness by the law I was blameless" but still he had to accept Christ ... Paul called the righteousness by the law self righteousness Phil 3;6-9

if Paul needed to accept Christ ,,,, then his own righteousness is like a curse ... its like Cain's sacrifice , who brought sacrifice to God from the ground which God has cursed .
so self righteousness is bringing righteousness to God from ourselves which God has condemned in Adam --- for in Adam we all sinned, and the wages of sin is death, and also in Adam all are condemned then definitely if I bring my own righteousness I will be condemned like Cain ....


so in other words looking unto Jesus means going to God asking for his spirit , continual fellowship with him in obedience love holiness for without holiness no man shall see God ,, , but holiness isn't keeping the law, holiness is living to God,,,,

if holiness were keeping the law which God knows wouldn't justify us ,, then Christ died in vain

Does that mean you cannot sin because the Holy Spirit is living in you?

enilove:



Does that mean you cannot sin because the Holy Spirit is living in you?

NO! It means, you have to be spiritually minded. Staying connected with the Holy Spirit. Not grieving the Holy Spirit and allowing Him lead and direct us.

When we mistakenly fall into sin, we don't have to waste time in asking for mercy. You no longer have to sacrifice any animal to be cleansed just like it was under the law, but repent of it and ask for forgiveness.


Galatians 5 :22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Romans 8 :13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

1 Peter 1 :
New Living Translation

God the Father knew you and chose you long ago, and his Spirit has made you holy. As a result, you have obeyed him and have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. May God give you more and more grace and peace.


◄ 2 Peter 1:3
New International Version

His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.

◄ Hebrews 4:16
New International Version

Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Oracle16:



NO! It means, you have to be spiritually minded. Staying connected with the Holy Spirit. Not grieving the Holy Spirit and allowing Him lead and direct us.

When we mistakenly fall into sin, we don't have to waste time in asking for mercy. You no longer have to sacrifice any animal to be cleansed just like it was under the law, but repent of it and ask for forgiveness.


Galatians 5 :22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Romans 8 :13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

1 Peter 1 :
New Living Translation

God the Father knew you and chose you long ago, and his Spirit has made you holy. As a result, you have obeyed him and have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. May God give you more and more grace and peace.


◄ 2 Peter 1:3
New International Version

His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.

◄ Hebrews 4:16
New International Version

Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Is it not Gods laws that makes you to be aware you have sinned ?
Where there is no law there is not sin.

The grace expects us to keep the laws and do more :

Matthew 5:18-22 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

This verse 22 is called what? Is that not a law , with higher standard ?
Grace does not mean the laws are not to be followed , it gives us the power to overcome them by the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us.
The Holy Spirit will empower you and caution . He will remind you of those laws . This is grace, empowerment. But if you commit any of those sins , you can quickly as for forgiveness, that is grace.
Before grace until you sleep with a woman and have carnal knowledge of her , you have not committed adultery but with the advent or period of grace , looking at a woman with lust, is a sin , that is law and higher expectation of holiness.

Grace says to be angry with anyone without a reason is murder , b4 grace until you kill b4 you are deemed a murderer.

You must keep some laws but not those sacrifices of blood .

Jesus said so. He said our righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees.
The Pharisees are keepers of the law and counted for them as righteousness .Jesus ( giver of grace ) now said our righteoness must exceed those of Pharisees.

Word of Jesus is final .

enilove:



Is it not Gods laws that makes you to be aware you have sinned ?
Where there is no law there is not sin.

The grace expects us to keep the laws and do more :

Matthew 5:18-22 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

This verse 22 is called what? Is that not a law , with higher standard ?
Grace does not mean the laws are not to be followed , it gives us the power to overcome them by the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us.
The Holy Spirit will empower you and caution . He will remind you of those laws . This is grace, empowerment. But if you commit any of those sins , you can quickly as for forgiveness, that is grace.
Before grace until you sleep with a woman and have carnal knowledge of her , you have not committed adultery but with the advent or period of grace , looking at a woman with lust, is a sin , that is law and higher expectation of holiness.

Grace says to be angry with anyone without a reason is murder , b4 grace until you kill b4 you are deemed a murderer.

You must keep some laws but not those sacrifices of blood .

Jesus said so. He said our righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees.
The Pharisees are keepers of the law and counted for them as righteousness .Jesus ( giver of grace ) now said our righteoness must exceed those of Pharisees.

Word of Jesus is final .

keeping the law cannot make you righteous, it only exposes your sinfulness.
How was Abraham made righteous was it by faith or by law?
A Christian does not have his own righteousness.

Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

enilove:



Is it not Gods laws that makes you to be aware you have sinned ?
Where there is no law there is not sin.

The grace expects us to keep the laws and do more :

Matthew 5:18-22 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

This verse 22 is called what? Is that not a law , with higher standard ?
Grace does not mean the laws are not to be followed , it gives us the power to overcome them by the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us.
The Holy Spirit will empower you and caution . He will remind you of those laws . This is grace, empowerment. But if you commit any of those sins , you can quickly as for forgiveness, that is grace.
Before grace until you sleep with a woman and have carnal knowledge of her , you have not committed adultery but with the advent or period of grace , looking at a woman with lust, is a sin , that is law and higher expectation of holiness.

Grace says to be angry with anyone without a reason is murder , b4 grace until you kill b4 you are deemed a murderer.

You must keep some laws but not those sacrifices of blood .

Jesus said so. He said our righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees.
The Pharisees are keepers of the law and counted for them as righteousness .Jesus ( giver of grace ) now said our righteoness must exceed those of Pharisees.

Word of Jesus is final .

I use to think it this way before now. I was a serious member of MFM until April this year, I was praying and something happened. My understanding of scriptures changed all of a sudden,any way thats a long story.

MFM is a true Christian Church, but mark my word, when you grow in the knowledge of the word of God, you won't be worshiping there. I will advise you to pray consistently pray for knowledge. Most of the doctrine of MFM are man made, they are not biblical.

The righteousness Jesus meant was not our personal righteousness, but the righteousness of God.

Yes Jesus said our righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees, but this righteousness does not come by our own effort, it does not come from keeping the law, it comes as a gift. It's a gift we receive when we become born again. It is not possible to attain such righteousness by keeping the law, it is a gift we receive from God through our faith in Jesus Christ and not by keeping the law.

NO matter how I try to explain to you, this argument will not end, but I pray God open your knowledge to understand. Meanwhile let me explain the little I can.

Romans 10:4
Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes,

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


This might not convince you but let me stop here. Just pray for understanding.

enilove:



Is it not Gods laws that makes you to be aware you have sinned ?
Where there is no law there is not sin.

The grace expects us to keep the laws and do more :

Matthew 5:18-22 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

This verse 22 is called what? Is that not a law , with higher standard ?
Grace does not mean the laws are not to be followed , it gives us the power to overcome them by the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us.
The Holy Spirit will empower you and caution . He will remind you of those laws . This is grace, empowerment. But if you commit any of those sins , you can quickly as for forgiveness, that is grace.
Before grace until you sleep with a woman and have carnal knowledge of her , you have not committed adultery but with the advent or period of grace , looking at a woman with lust, is a sin , that is law and higher expectation of holiness.

Grace says to be angry with anyone without a reason is murder , b4 grace until you kill b4 you are deemed a murderer.

You must keep some laws but not those sacrifices of blood .

Jesus said so. He said our righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees.
The Pharisees are keepers of the law and counted for them as righteousness .Jesus ( giver of grace ) now said our righteoness must exceed those of Pharisees.

Word of Jesus is final .

"Righteousness is not Right behavior, but Righteousness produces Right behavior"

Righteousness is a gift we receive through faith (when we become born again) and not by works. We must live right because we already have the Righteousness of God as a gift through our faith in Christ Jesus.

Please, take time to read this scriptures below ;

Romans 9:30-32, Romans 10:10, Romans 3:31, Romans 3:20, Romans 3:22-24, Romans 3:27-28, Romans 10:4, 2 Timothy 1:9, Phillipians 3:9, Ephesians 2:8-9......

The law is good but the problem is the human nature.
The human nature is completely sinful and rebellious.
Sin was passed upon all men by Adam, it is a sickness that destroys the soul, the law on the other hand only enlighten us about this sickness but not the solution.
The solution to sin was provided by God when he sent Jesus to die for our sin so that if any man believes, put his 100% trust and rely on him on him would not perish but have everlasting life.
By faith in Jesus we become 100% righteous and become holy, and by living according to his word we are preserved in him.
This is the gospel in a nutshell.

enilove:



Is it not Gods laws that makes you to be aware you have sinned ?
Where there is no law there is not sin.

The grace expects us to keep the laws and do more :

Matthew 5:18-22 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

This verse 22 is called what? Is that not a law , with higher standard ?
Grace does not mean the laws are not to be followed , it gives us the power to overcome them by the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us.
The Holy Spirit will empower you and caution . He will remind you of those laws . This is grace, empowerment. But if you commit any of those sins , you can quickly as for forgiveness, that is grace.
Before grace until you sleep with a woman and have carnal knowledge of her , you have not committed adultery but with the advent or period of grace , looking at a woman with lust, is a sin , that is law and higher expectation of holiness.

Grace says to be angry with anyone without a reason is murder , b4 grace until you kill b4 you are deemed a murderer.

You must keep some laws but not those sacrifices of blood .

Jesus said so. He said our righteousness must exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees.
The Pharisees are keepers of the law and counted for them as righteousness .Jesus ( giver of grace ) now said our righteoness must exceed those of Pharisees.

Word of Jesus is final .

Let me help post those scriptures here . .

Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;


Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 3:27 New International Version

Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith.
28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law

Oracle16:



Let me help post those scriptures here . .

Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;


Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 3:27 New International Version

Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith.
28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law

Weldone! Proclaim more the grace of the Living God in Christ the Lord.

Oracle16:



Let me help post those scriptures here . .

Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;


Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 3:27 New International Version

Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith.
28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law

You are very wrong.

What is the law ? Is this verse below a law or not?

Matthew 5:27-28 KJV
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: [28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

I had been busy for a while ... I'm really happy the brethren had continued ... I will answer those which I had not answered or which were skipped

bloodofthelamb:


Weldone! Proclaim more the grace of the Living God in Christ the Lord.

Grace does not mean lawlessness.
Accepting Jesus as the saviour is faith . That faith in him grants you grace to make heaven provided you continue to live a holy life.
Refusal to accept his death and relying on the keeping of the laws is lack of faith and no grace.

So , grace without obeying the laws or commandment of God is forfeiture of grace and gift of hell.

The Bible says :
Romans 6:15-16 KJV
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Grace grants you the Holy Spirit to overcome temptation and run from sin by obeying the moral laws.

this is a letter or word of exhortation to the brethren who accept justification by faith, enilove can also profit from it... wait till I finish it ... I will tell you all when I'm done ,save your questions till when I tell you that am done pls ( God bless)


JUSTIFICATION is to be diversely taken in the Scripture. Sometimes it is taken for the justification of persons. Sometimes for the justification of actions. And sometimes for the justification of the person and action too. Sometimes it is taken for the justification of persons, and that:

1. As to justification with God—when a man stands clear, quit, free, or, in a saved condition before him, in the approbation of his holy law , Sinners Justified by Imputation of Righteousness of Christ My intention is to treat of justification, as it sets a man free or quit from sin, the curse and condemnation of the law in the sight of God, in order to eternal salvation. And that I may with the more clearness handle this point before you, I will lay down and speak to this proposition— That there is no other way for sinners to be justified from the curse of the law in the sight of God, than by the imputation of that righteousness long ago performed by, and still residing with, the person of Jesus Christ. The terms of this proposition are easy; yet if it will help, I will speak a word or two for explication.

1. By a sinner, I mean one that has transgressed the law; for “sin is the transgression of the law” (1 John 3:4)

. 2. By the curse of the law, I mean that sentence, judgment, or condemnation which the law pronounceth against the transgressor (Gal. 3:10).

3. By justifying righteousness, I mean that which stands in the doing and suffering of Christ when he was in the world (Rom. 5:19).

4. By the residing of this righteousness in Christ’s person, I mean, it still abides with him as to the action, though the benefit is bestowed upon those that are his.

5. By the imputation of it to us, I mean God’s making of it ours by an act of his grace, that we by it might be secured from the curse of the law.

6. When I say there is no other way to be justified, I cast away to that end-the law, and all the works of the law as done by us. Thus I have opened the terms of the proposition

Now, What sin and the curse is, stand clear in all men’s sight, unless they be atheists, or desperately heretical. I shall therefore in few words, clear the other four. First, justifying righteousness is the doing and suffering of Christ when he was in the world. This is clear, because we are said to be “justified by his obedience” (Rom. 5:19);
by his obedience to the law. Hence he is said again to be the end of the law for that very thing—“Christ is the end of the law for righteousness,” etc. (Rom. 10:4). The end, what is that? Why, the requirement or demand of the law. But what is it? Why, righteousness, perfect righteousness (Gal. 3:10). Perfect righteousness, what to do? That the soul concerned might stand spotless in the sight of God (Rev. 1:5). Now this lies only in the doings and sufferings of Christ; for “by his obedience many are made righteous”; wherefore as to this Christ is the end of the law, that being found in that obedience, that becomes to us sufficient for our justification. Hence, we are said to be made righteous by his obedience; yea, and to be washed, purged, and justified by his blood (Heb. 9:14; Rom. 5:18, 19

Secondly, that this righteousness still resides in and with the person of Christ, even then when we stand just before God thereby, is clear, for that we are said when justified to be justified “in him”—“In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified.” And again, “Surely, shall one say, in the Lord have I righteousness,” etc. And again, “Of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who is made unto us of God righteousness” (Isa. 45:24, 25; 1 Cor. 1:30


Mark, the righteousness is still “in him,” not “in us”;(though some don't like this, yet it's the truth) even then when we are made partakers of the benefit of it, even as the wing and feathers still abide in the hen when the chickens are covered, kept, and warmed thereby. For as my doings, though my children are fed and clothed thereby, are still my doings, not theirs, so the righteousness wherewith we stand just before God from the curse still resides in Christ, not in us. Our sins when laid upon Christ were yet personally ours, not his; so his righteousness when put upon us is yet personally his, not ours. What is it, then? Why, “he was made to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him” (2 Cor. 5:21). Thirdly, it is therefore of a justifying virtue only by imputation, or as God reckoneth it to us; even as our sins made the Lord Jesus a sinner?—Godforbid , sin, by God’s reckoning of them to him. It is absolutely necessary that this be known of us; for if the understanding be muddy as to this, it is impossible that such should be sound in the faith; also in temptation, that man will be at a loss that looketh for a righteousness for justification in himself, when it is to be found nowhere but in Jesus Christ. The apostle, who was his crafts-master as to this, was always “looking to Jesus,” that he “might be found in him” (Phil. 3:6-, knowing that nowhere else could peace or safety be had..

And indeed this is one of the greatest mysteries in the world—namely, that a righteousness that resides with a person in heaven should justify me, a sinner, on earth. Fourthly, therefore the law and the works thereof, as to this must by us be cast away; not only because they here are useless, but also they being retained are a hindrance. That they are useless is evident, for that salvation comes by another name (Acts 4:12). And that they are a hindrance, it is clear, for the very adhering to the law, though it be but a little, or in a little part, prevents justification by the righteousness of Christ (Rom. 9:31, 32). What shall I say? As to this, the moral law is rejected, the ceremonial law is rejected, and man’s righteousness is rejected, for that they are here both weak and unprofitable (Rom. 8:2, 3; Gal. 3:21; Heb. 10:1-12). Now if all these and their works as to our justification are rejected, where but in Christ is righteousness to be found? Thus much, therefore, for the explication of the proposition—namely, that there is no other way for sinners to be justified from the curse of the law in the sight of God than by the imputation of that righteousness long ago performed by, and still residing with, the person of Jesus Christ. Now, from this proposition I draw these two positions— First, That men are justified from the curse of the law before God while sinners in themselves. Secondly, That this can be done by no other righteousness than that long ago performed by, and residing with, the person of Jesus Christ

What Is the Mysterious Act of Redemption?

That which I call, and that rightly, the mysterious act of our redemption, is Christ’s sufferings as a common, though a particular person and as a sinner, though always completely righteous. That he suffered as a common person is true. By common, I mean a public person, or one that presents the body of mankind in himself. This a multitude of Scriptures bear witness to, especially that fifth chapter to the Romans, where by the apostle he is set before us as the head of all the elect, even as Adam was once head of all the world. Thus he lived, and thus he died; and this was a mysterious act. And that he should die as a sinner, when yet himself did “no sin, nor had any guile found in his mouth,” made this act more mysterious (1 Pet. 1:19; 2:22; 3:18). That he died as a sinner is plain—“He hath made him to be sin. And the Lord laid upon him the iniquity of us all” (Isa. 53). That, then, as to his own person he was completely sinless is also as truly manifest, and that by a multitude of Scriptures. Now, I say, that Christ Jesus should be thus considered, and thus die, was the great mystery of God. Hence Paul tells us, that when he preached “Christ crucified,” he preached not only the “wisdom of God,” but the “wisdom of God in a mystery,” even his “hidden wisdom,” for, indeed, this wisdom is hidden, and kept close from the “fowls of the air” (1 Cor. 1:23; 2:7, 8; Job, 28:20, 21). It is also so mysterious, that it goes beyond the reach of all men, except those to whom an understanding is given of God to apprehend it (1 John 5:20). That one particular man should represent all the elect in himself, and that the most righteous should die as a sinner, yea, as a sinner by the hand of a just and holy God, is a mystery of the greatest depth. How We Are Concerned in This Mysterious Act of Redemption And now I come secondly to shew you how the elect are concerned therein; that is, in this mysterious act of this most blessed One; and this will make this act yet more mysterious to you

enilove:


Grace does not mean lawlessness.
Accepting Jesus as the saviour is faith . That faith in him grants you grace to make heaven provided you continue to live a holy life.
Refusal to accept his death and relying on the keeping of the laws is lack of faith and no grace.

So , grace without obeying the laws or commandment of God is forfeiture of grace and gift of hell.

The Bible says :
Romans 6:15-16 KJV
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. [16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Asking a sinner to live a holy life is like asking a lion to feed on grass like a sheep...

preaching and asking a sinner not to sin through laws is like you asking a bird not to fly... What a sinner needs is a recreation, which only faith in CHRIST can wrought. Laws won't do you or me any good.

bloodofthelamb:


Asking a sinner to live a holy life is like asking a lion to feed on grass like a sheep...

preaching and asking a sinner not to sin through laws is like you asking a bird not to fly... What a sinner needs is a recreation, which only faith in CHRIST can wrought. Laws won't do you or me any good.

You are wrong.
There are more than 200 millions of Christians world wide who have faith in Jesus but are habitual sinners.

Just like take time and understand what I am saying.

I accept we all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and be Baptised in the Holy spirit, but we must by the power of the Holy Spirit live a holy life.
To live a holy life , you must obey God's commandments.

I am wrong?

Now, then, we will speak of this first, as to how Christ prepared himself thus mysteriously to act.
1. He took hold of our nature. I say, he took hold of us, by taking upon him flesh and blood. The Son of God therefore, took not upon him a particular person, though he took to him a human body and soul; but that which he took was, as I may call it, a lump of the common nature of man, and by that, hold of the whole elect seed of Abraham (Heb. 2:16): “For verily he took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham.” Hence he, in a mystery, became us, and was counted as all the men that were or should be saved. And this is the reason why we are said to do, when only Jesus Christ did do. As for instance— First, When Jesus Christ fulfilled the righteousness of the law, it is said it was fulfilled in us, because indeed fulfilled in our nature: “For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh; God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us,” etc. But because none should appropriate this unto themselves that have not had passed upon them a work of conversion, therefore he adds, “Who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” For there being a union between head and members, though things may be done by the head, and that for the members, the things are counted to the members, as if not done only by the head. The “righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us”; and that truly, because fulfilled in that common nature which the Son of God took of the Virgin. Wherefore, in this sense we are said to do what only was done by him; even as the client doth by his lawyer, when his lawyer personates him; the client is said to do, when it is the lawyer only that does; and to overcome by doing, when it is the lawyer that overcomes; the reason is, because the lawyer does in the client’s name. How much more then may it be said we do, when only Christ does; since he does what he does, not in our name only, but in our nature too; “for the law of the spirit of life in Christ (not in me) has set me free from the law of sin and death” (Rom. 8:1-3); he doing in his common flesh what could not be done in my particular person, that so I might have the righteousness of the law fulfilled in me, my flesh assumed by Christ; though impossible to be done, because of the weakness of my person. The reason of all this is, because we are said to be in him in his doing, in him by our flesh, and also by the election of God. So, then, as all men sinned when Adam fell, so all the elect did righteousness when Christ wrought and fulfilled the law; for “as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” Secondly, As we are said to do by Christ, so we are said to suffer by him, to suffer with him. “I am crucified with Christ,” said Paul. And again; “Forasmuch, then, as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind; for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin” (1 Pet. 4:1, 2). Mark how the apostle seems to change the person. First he says, it is Christ that suffered; and that is true; but then he insinuates that it is us that suffered, for the exhortation is to believers, “to walk in newness of life”; and the argument is, because they have suffered in the flesh: “For he that hath suffered in the flesh, hath ceased from sin; that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God” (Gal. 2:20). We then suffered when Christ suffered; we then suffered in his flesh and also our “old man was crucified with him” (Rom. 6:6); that is, in his crucifixion; for when he hanged on the cross, all the elect hanged there in their common flesh which he assumed, and because he suffered there as a public man. Thirdly, As we are said to suffer with him, so we are said to die, to be dead with him; with him, that is, by the dying of his body: “Now, if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him” (Rom. 6:. Wherefore he saith in other places, “Brethren, ye are become dead to the law by the body of Christ”; for indeed we died then to it by him. To the law—that is, the law now has nothing to do with us; for that it has already executed its curse to the full upon us by its slaying of the body of Christ, for the body of Christ was our flesh, upon it also was laid our sin. The law, too, spent that curse that was due to us upon him when it condemned, killed, and cast him into the grave. Wherefore, it having thus spent its whole curse upon him as standing in our stead, we are exempted from its curse for ever; we are become dead to it by that body (Rom. 7:4), it has done with us as to justifying righteousness. Nor need we fear its damning threats any more; for by the death of this body we are freed from it, and are for ever now coupled to a living Christ. Fourthly, As we are said thus to be dead, so we are said also to rise again by him— “Thy dead men” (saith he to the Father) “shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise.” And again; “After two days he will revive us, and in the third day we shall live in his sight” (Isa. 26:19; Hos. 6:2). Both these Scriptures speak of the resurrection of Christ, of the resurrection of his body on the third day; but behold, as we were said before to suffer and be dead with him, so now we are said also to rise and live in God’s sight by the resurrection of his body; for, as was said, the flesh was ours; he took part of our flesh when he came into the world; and in it he “suffered, died, and rose again” (Heb. 2:14). We also were therefore counted by God in that God-man when he did this; yea, he suffered, died, and rose as a common head. Hence also the New Testament is full of this, saying, “If ye be dead with Christ.” “If ye be risen with Christ.” And again; “He hath quickened us together with him” (Col. 2:20; 3:1; and 2:13). “We are quickened together with him.” “Quickened,” and “quickened together with him.” The apostle hath words that cannot easily be shifted or evaded. Christ then was quickened when he was raised from the dead. Nor is it proper to say that he was ever quickened either before or since. This text also concludes that we—to wit, the whole body of God’s elect—were also quickened then, and made to live with him together. True, we also are quickened personally by grace the day in the which we are born unto God by the gospel; yet before that we are quickened in our head; quickened when he was raised from the dead; quickened together with him. Fifthly, Nor are we thus considered—to wit, as dying and rising, and so left. But the apostle pursues his argument, and tells us that we also reap by him, as being considered..

I'm done for now.... seeing that there's an issue at hand

solite3:
The law is good but the problem is the human nature.
The human nature is completely sinful and rebellious.
Sin was passed upon all men by Adam, it is a sickness that destroys the soul, the law on the other hand only enlighten us about this sickness but not the solution.
The solution to sin was provided by God when he sent Jesus to die for our sin so that if any man believes, put his 100% trust and rely on him on him would not perish but have everlasting life.
By faith in Jesus we become 100% righteous and become holy, and by living according to his word we are preserved in him.
This is the gospel in a nutshell.

From your second to your last paragraph, what is the meaning of living according to his word......?
Are you not talking about the commandments of God?

The Bible says:

James 2:10-14,21-26 KJV
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point , he is guilty of all. [11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. [12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. [13] For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. [14] What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? [22] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? [23] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. [24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. [25] Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? [26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

enilove:



You are very wrong.

What is the law ? Is this verse below a law or not?

Matthew 5:27-28 KJV
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: [28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Like I stated, I will not explain further because you will not understand. The Holy Spirit will give you understanding if you ask. Try praying consistently with Jeremiah 33 :3, tell God you want to know Him more, He will let you understand and show you things that will make you marvel. I am still growing, but I know better than praying 'die by fie' or thinking I need deliverance even when I already have been redeemed and now have the Holy Spirit living in me.

Brother, just ask God, He will open your understanding. It's the Holy Spirit that will teach you. God bless you bro

enilove:


You are wrong.
There are more than 200 millions of Christians world wide who have faith in Jesus but are habitual sinners.

Just like take time and understand what I am saying.

I accept we all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and be Baptised in the Holy spirit, but we must by the power of the Holy Spirit live a holy life.
To live a holy life , you must obey God's commandments.

I am wrong?

Paul said shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid....

you seem not to understand,, no one is saying that you don't obey the law, we are saying that you shouldn't see as justifying or as something you should rest on ,,, or be happy because you are keeping , instead let your boasting be in God,,,,

our self righteousness is in contrast with Christ's righteousness ,, either you are justified by Christ righteousness or you are condemned .. .

let me ask you did you receive the holy spirit by obeying the law??

a Muslim devoid of the spirit can keep the law, when he sin he can offer bulls .. but he will never be justified by that ,,,,

then our conclusion is that if we aren't justified by keeping the law, then it's otherwise useless for justification ,,

rather we are justified by God in grace through faith and are given the holy spirit to help us live to God ,,,, and not to the law....

enilove:


You are wrong.
There are more than 200 millions of Christians world wide who have faith in Jesus but are habitual sinners.

Just like take time and understand what I am saying.

I accept we all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and be Baptised in the Holy spirit, but we must by the power of the Holy Spirit live a holy life.
To live a holy life , you must obey God's commandments.

I am wrong?

let me know what you think about law

does it justify??

is it useless for Justification??

do we get to heaven by it?

enilove:


You are wrong.
There are more than 200 millions of Christians world wide who have faith in Jesus but are habitual sinners.

Just like take time and understand what I am saying.

I accept we all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and be Baptised in the Holy spirit, but we must by the power of the Holy Spirit live a holy life.
To live a holy life , you must obey God's commandments.

I am wrong?

Any so called Christian who continue to live in sin without repentance does not have the Holy Spirit living in him. It is the Holy Spirit that empowers one to overcome sin, but that does not mean the person might not fall into sin at all, if he does, he feels bad and repents of it and ask for forgiveness, because He already has the power of God in Him.

This is why this scripture says..

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9".

◄ Hebrews 4:16
New International Version

Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

Some of you really need to unlearn what you have been taught for year. Teachings that have imbeded traditions of men are the most to do away with and unlearn.

Who taught you there's moral, ceremonial and sacrificial laws?

The law is a one package that was delivered as a whole and that's why breaking one is breaking all.

So when Paul the Apostle taught believers are not to follow the law of Moses, was he only talking about 10 commandments or sacrificial or ceremonial law? No! He was talking about the whole. The whole law including the 10 commandments IS abolished for those who are in Christ

You don't need the 10 commandments to tell you to do the right thing or not, you need the holy spirit that works within your conscience and renewed mind. There was no 10 commandments before Joseph flew from Potiphar wife, there was no commandments before Enoch walked with God, Noah was a just man, Job etc

enilove:


You are wrong.
There are more than 200 millions of Christians world wide who have faith in Jesus but are habitual sinners.

Just like take time and understand what I am saying.

I accept we all need to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and be Baptised in the Holy spirit, but we must by the power of the Holy Spirit live a holy life.
To live a holy life , you must obey God's commandments.

I am wrong?

First, no Spirit filled believer is an habitual sinner... Head knowledge of the Saviour, does not make us a christian.

I agree with your last paragraph. We bear fruit well pleasing to GOD through the precious Spirit of God.