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Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by ManMountain(m): 5:08pm On Jan 03
PrecisionFx:





This isn't about bitterness, it's straight up facts, Nigeria will remain the same as long as u people keep sugar coating our problems.

The question you should ask yourself is whether the power supply is getting better or worse to pre-2015 level

To me it is only a wicked and deceitful person that will be blind to the progress in the sector
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 6:00pm On Jan 03
obailala:

@LordAdam, this is 2018, don't you think it's too early to begin raining insults at people while you expose your ignorance?

POWER SECTOR SPEND
Firstly, cant you hear how incoherent you sound?... You first claimed OBJ wasted $16billion, then you claimed GEJ didn't spend much on the power sector, and then you stated again that GEJ only spent money to complete existing projects. If I may ask, what existing projects did GEJ complete (if not for the numerous projects previously started by OBJ with the $16 billion)?... Can't you see how hypocritical and ridiculous you sound in your desperate attempt to demonize OBJ and sanctify GEJ?... Whilst OBJ may have mismanaged the $16 billion, the fact remains that he commenced all the NIPPs and most of the expensive heavy equipment, turbines etc. were already procured and were rotting away in the ports with the funds meant for their clearing and installation squandered/looted. GEJ like you said only picked up from where OBJ stopped.

But then, you emphatically stated that GEJ spent nothing on the power sector, but below are some reports which claims he spent over $8 billion (still to no avail exactly just like OBJ), I did not create these reports so you have no right to call me stupid.

https://www.businessdayonline.com/fg-spends-8-26bn-on-power-sector-inaugurates-nipp-olorunsogo-ogun/
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/power-sector-senate-probes-obj-yaradua-jonathan/
http://thenationonlineng.net/jonathans-dark-power/

Can you show me where I said GEJ spent nothing?

It seems you are daft? If I said he spent nothing, then what money did he spend on "completing existing power plants, boosting transmission capacity, and rural electrification."

Or is the NIPP not part of "existing power plants"? None of the pages you quoted said $8.5b. If you had said over $8b, I'd not have asked you to provide a quote.

If OBJ did most of the hard work like you claimed, why did Yar'Adua in only 2 years have to spend $5b on the same project? OBJ started the NIPP in 2004, a year after his re-election. He had already spent most of that $16b in his first tenure. It was in 2005 that the Electric Power Sector Reform Act called for the unbundling of PHCN.

And how is it that "most of the expensive heavy equipment, turbines etc. were already procured and were rotting away in the ports" for the NIPP were actually imported in 2003, one whole year before the NIPP was conceived. http://shipsandports.com.ng/nebo-takes-delivery-of-248-phcn-containers-abandoned-for-10-years/. Later if I insult you, you'll say it's uncalled for.

All OBJ did was start a very expensive project that other administrations had to complete or risked being called out for discontinuation of projects when we didn't have electricity. Yar'Adua didn't want to pay, that's why funding was halted for more than one year. If all you could find about GEJ's electricity expenses was on this same expensive, glorified NIPP project that he was compelled to finish, then it shows how bereft of common sense you are.

POWER GENERATION
You posted a link to the NESO website (https://nsong.org), but if you were half as smart or meticulous as you brag, you should have at least opened the website you supplied to verify my claims before jumping to make a fool of yourself in public and calling me names. Below is the report of peak and minimum power generation just a week to handover and on the handover day showing generation dropping to below 2000mw


Below is a news report on the week of handover to that same effect:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html

So now that I have provided some evidence to back-up my claim, who do you think is actually being stupid and should shut-up between us both??

Yet in the same page you quoted, this was the first part of the article:

Power output had dropped from a recent peak of 4,500MW on April 3, to 2,800 as of March 30.

The ministry said on the eastern axis, Shell Gas, Alakiri plants were shut down.

Other affected power plants include National Integrated Power Plants (NIPPs) – Egbin, Olorunshogo 1 & 11, Omotosho 1& 11, Geregu I & 11, Ihonvor and Sapele on the western axis and Alaoji on the eastern end.

The Permanent Secretary, Federal Ministry of Power, Godknows Igali, raised the alarm over the worsening power generation across the country during a meeting with Vice-President Namadi Sambo in Abuja.

Mr. Igali and the Minister of Power, Chinedu Nebo, had briefed the Vice President on the current state of the power generation, transmission and distribution in the country.

He said the ongoing strike by the Petroleum and Natural Gas Senior Staff Association of Nigeria (PENGASSAN) and the National Union of Petroleum and Natural Gas (NUPENG), which began on Tuesday, was responsible for the worsening supply.

The workers are protesting the transfer of the rights of the Oil Mining Lease (OML) 42 to two indigenous companies, saying the move would affect the fortunes of Nigerian Petroleum Development Company (NPDC) and its staff.

He said “on the eastern axis Shell Gas, ALAKIRI has also been shut down. This has led to the several power plants being stranded and shutdown”.
“This includes EGBIN, OLORUNSHOGO I & 11, OMOTOSHO 1& 11, GEREGU I & 11, IHONVOR and SAPELE (NIPP) on the western axis and ALAOJI on the eastern end,” the permanent secretary said.

He said besides pipeline vandalism which has continued to have very negative impact on the power supply in the country, the ongoing strike by the labour unions in the oil and gas sector has added additional toll.

“The overall effect is that power supply which had started picking up steadily since the beginning of the week following repairs of various vandalised portions of the ELP Line and the Trans-Forcados Gas Pipelines, has fallen to all-time-unprecedented low of 1,327m was at 1.00 p.m. May22, 2015,” Mr. Igali said.

“With the strike, which has gone on for one or two days, there is a dramatic turn in the level of power supply in the country, with the level going down to the all-time low level of 1,327 megawatts (MW),” he said.

“So, if you look at it from 4,800 MW level it was until recently, there is a dramatic turn, the loss is terrible,’’ he said.

He warned that the situation could get worse if the strike continues, although he expressed the hope that the ongoing discussions between the Federal Ministry of Petroleum Resources, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation and, the labour unions, would end amicably.

You see how mischievous you are?

It was at a peak of 4,500MW on April 2015 and you are saying because of the strike that took it below 2,000MW in only ONE month, then it means GEJ did nothing in the power sector? See how stup*d that sounds?

And by the way peak power on First of January, 2018 is 4,685.30 MW. So are you telling me Buhari has added only 185MW in over 2 years?

Are you normal at all?

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by obailala(m): 6:30pm On Jan 03
LordAdam16:

Can you show me where I said GEJ spent nothing?

It seems you are daft? If I said he spent nothing, then what money did he spend on "completing existing power plants, boosting transmission capacity, and rural electrification."

Or is the NIPP not part of "existing power plants"? None of the pages you quoted said $8.5b. If you had said over $8b, I'd not have asked you to provide a quote.

If OBJ did most of the hard work like you claimed, why did Yar'Adua in only 2 years have to spend $5b on the same project? OBJ started the NIPP in 2004, a year after his re-election. He had already spent most of that $16b in his first tenure. It was in 2005 that the Electric Power Sector Reform Act called for the unbundling of PHCN.

And how is it that "most of the expensive heavy equipment, turbines etc. were already procured and were rotting away in the ports" for the NIPP were actually imported in 2003, one whole year before the NIPP was conceived. http://shipsandports.com.ng/nebo-takes-delivery-of-248-phcn-containers-abandoned-for-10-years/. Later if I insult you, you'll say it's uncalled for.

All OBJ did was start a very expensive project that other administrations had to complete or risked being called out for discontinuation of projects when we didn't have electricity. Yar'Adua didn't want to pay, that's why funding was halted for more than one year. If all you could find about GEJ's electricity expenses was on this same expensive, glorified NIPP project that he was compelled to finish, then it shows how bereft of common sense you are.
OMG! you are such a shameless human to have even considered such a pointless and embarrassing response. Any human with an iota of self respect should have just remained silent. What is the difference between $8.5bn and $8.26bn?

Off my head, I mentioned that GEJ spent $8.5 billion on the power sector. You instantly jumped on me like a ferocious lion, dismissed my statement and labeled me a 'stupid liar'. I returned after a simple google search providing evidence that the specific figure spent was $8.26 billion, only for you to come back now and say "I should have said over $8 billion". How shamelessly despicable can a human possibly be? undecided

And then you go further once again to run your fingers blabbing about how the $16 billion spent by OBJ was a total waste, but the 'over $8billion' spent by GEJ was prudently used. You even dared to mention that 248 containers of power system equipment stuck in the ports were cleared by Nebo in 2014 (several more were even cleared recently in 2017), but you still fail to acknowledge that these were part of the $16 billion sunk in by OBJ?... What sort of shameless hypocritical bigot are you? undecided

Yet in the same page you quoted, this was the first part of the article:
Of course every human with a functioning brain knows there was a reason why the power dropped to such low levels, same way there are also explainable reasons why the power drops intermittently till date. I don't remember mentioning anywhere that there wasn't a reason for the drop; only thing I mentioned was that there was a major power system collapse which saw power dropping below 2000mw at the time of handover. So what on earth are you blabbing about?.. Why don't you just shut-up and run along? angry


You see how mischievous you are?

It was at a peak of 4,500MW on April 2015 and you are saying because of the strike that took it below 2,000MW in only ONE month, then it means GEJ did nothing in the power sector? See how stup*d that sounds?

And by the way peak power on First of January, 2018 is 4,685.30 MW. So are you telling me Buhari has added only 185MW in over 2 years?

Are you normal at all?

-Lord
Once again, nowhere did I say the generation level was permanently below 2000mw, I only said the power dropped below 2000mw on the week before handover. If you do not have the most elementary English language comprehension skills, but rather choose to jump around ignorantly insulting people like an attack dog, then I'm sorry, I cant help you.

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Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 6:40pm On Jan 03
bigass:


You may defend GEJ till infinity but we were alive when he ruled. Electricity was not better. He handed over of our electric asset to the most incompetent fools. For 5years the discos can not meter everybody they can not change all the moribund equipment within the system.

Yar'Adua invited a Canadian firm--CPCS Transcom Ltd--to advice on unbundling PHCN. In 2010, GEJ reinvited them to provide more advice.

In 2013, he commenced the process. Nnamdi Sambo was fully in charge of the privatization process and the BPE and all other lawfully-empowered government agencies and stakeholders were involved in the process. To the best of my knowledge, I haven't heard or read of any conceited group saying the PHCN privatization did not follow due process.

I'm not saying the process was perfect, but it beats having a redundant PHCN under whose stead no new engineer was employed in 20 years and who were the people who left $5b worth of equipment in limbo for over a decade.

And about the metering and changing of moribund equipment, you are not intelligent enough to debate why these hiccups have not been resolved. So, I'm not going to enlighten you. I've got better things to do.

But here's a Nov. 2017 article on the fact that there are no existing metering regulations -- https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/business-news/248529-fashola-gives-nerc-november-deadline-issue-electricity-metering-regulation.html.

PHCN privatization is a work in process and isn't complete yet. Moreover, for an heavily convoluted sector like that, there were always going to be kinks that need to be ironed out. Metering and funding for the moribund projects are some of those.

I can tell you for a fact that no DISCO would take a loan at the present 22% interest rate to "change all moribund euipment" when the average profit margin is 8-10%.

When you begin to read more rather than type trash, I'd take you seriously.

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 6:54pm On Jan 03
obailala:
OMG! you are such a shameless human to have even considered such a pointless and embarrassing response. Any human with an iota of self respect should have just remained silent. What is the difference between $8.5bn and $8.26bn?

Off my head, I mentioned that GEJ spent $8.5 billion on the power sector. You instantly jumped on me like a ferocious lion, dismissed my statement and labeled me a 'stupid liar'. I returned after a simple google search providing evidence that the specific figure spent was $8.26 billion, only for you to come back now and say "I should have said over $8 billion". How shamelessly despicable can a human possibly be? undecided

Maybe you should cross-check figures before posting them. I know I do.

And you're yet to show me where I said GEJ spent nothing. Since you have comprehension problems.

And then you go further once again to run your fingers blabbing about how the $16 billion spent by OBJ was a total waste, but the 'over $8billion' spent by GEJ was prudently used. What sort of shameless hypocritical bigot are you? You need serious help! undecided

It's not blabbing when I provide links and facts to back my arguments, whereas you're either typing out of your a** or making unsubstantiated statements.

Yar'Adua spent $5b on NIPP in 2 yers. GEJ spent $8b on NIPP in 5 years. Maybe you should help me find out how much OBJ spent on the NIPP in 2 years.

Right now, the NIPP is like the refineries.

I maintain that the bulk of OBJ's $16b spending was not on the NIPP, like you erroneously assumed. And I backed it up with facts.

The bottom line is that if OBJ hadn't constituted the NIPP, Yar'Adua wouldn't have to spend that $5b, and GEJ wouldn't have had to spend $8b (if they did, it would have been on more useful things like rural electrification and improving transmission capacity). And I bet Buhari is spending his own billions on the same NIPP. Because like the refineries, the NIPP na person ATM. Yet OBJ would have clearly spent above $10b regardless of the NIPP. So who among the three was wasteful?

I don't know why it's hard for you to think critically. I know you're capable of doing so, but for reasons best known to you, you choose not to.

Of course every human with a functioning brain knows there was a reason why the power dropped to such low levels, same way there are also explainable reasons why the power drops intermittently till date. I don't remember mentioning anywhere that there wasn't a reason for the drop; only thing I mentioned was that there was a major power system collapse which saw power dropping below 2000mw at the time of handover. So what on earth are you blabbing about?.. Why don't you just shut-up and run along? angry

So why did you bloody mention that GEJ handed over 2000MW if you weren't trying to be mischievous?

Do you hear yourself?

You know there was a reason why it fell to 2000MW. You know it was usually around 4500MW under GEJ. Yet you felt the need to mention that on the week of the handover, it fell to below 2000MW without stating the reason why. Does that not reek of political meandering?

Once again, nowhere did I say the generation level was permanently below 2000mw, I only said the power dropped below 2000mw on the week before handover. If you do not have the most elementary English language comprehension skills, but rather choose to jump around ignorantly insulting people like an attack dog, then I'm sorry, I cant help you.


My simple question is that why did you have to mention that it dropped below 2000MW on the week before handover without stating the reason why? Even more importantly, why did you have to share that information, without being objective to explain why, in the same post that you were accusing GEJ of being corrupt and wasteful?

Or do you think you're conversing with a kid?

I've told you. This is a new year. Leave those your stupid*ty and political mischief in 2017.

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 7:13pm On Jan 03
deomelo:




You people must really think Nigerians are stupid, dumb, reterdded, have amnesia or memory loss.

You can cut and dice your meaningless rubbish anyway you like, but we know we gave the PDP/Jona 16 years and $20 billion to give us stable electricity, but all they did was stole the $20 billion and gave us continued darkness in return, we basically spent 16 continued years in darkness, lost 16 years and our $20 billions in private bank accounts.

Jona wasn't any different, he was part of the same crooked, corrupt and incompetent PDP government that kept us in darkness even after your so-called privatization and selling off valuable government power assets to his and PDP cronies for cheap, they didn't have power business experience and zero funds to invest and improve their operations.

The only reason we are doing better today is because of the competent people we have running and making strategic decisions in the power ministry and other government agencies working in tandem and in sync across the board to make sure we stay on track and keep moving forward.

Jona left the same MWs and inefficient power system he met with zero improvements, but we've moved past that and in less than 3 years and we have fully efficient agencies capable collaborating and addressing serious outages within hours with minimum disruptions.

1. They addressed the problem in record time.

2. The collaborated across several agencies to get it done.

3. The issued a timely public service announcement to clearly explain and articulated what happened, how they address the situation and ultimately the most import thing, calming public fears and anxieties.


These acts should be normal in Nigeria, but never have been till now which we find very refreshing, it says a lot about the people running the system at this point, it says a lot about their competence, dedication, and sense of duty and savvy public relations skills.


There's absolutely no need to keep boring us with the PDP and GEJ because Nigerians gave them 16 years and $20 billion to solve our power crisis, but they failed and left us in darkness, but in less than 3 years and without $20 billion power funds, we are seeing dramatic change across the board not only in improved power supply but also in the competence and positive attitude of the people running the system.


You can bore us with all the worthless essays your heart desire, but we are not going back to the dark ages your PDP uncles left for us to endure.



Oga, even if I'm mad, I wouldn't debate sh*t with you.

At least I know obailala problem is bias and selective reporting, although he has the capacity to reason. Bigass wouldn't read to save his/her life. Your own is that you simply do not have the capacity to think for yourself. Your brain is underdeveloped. I'm pretty sure you have a single-digit IQ, and that's me being generous.

If I climbed to your ego, it'd take me years to fall to your IQ. So anywhere you see my post, jump am pass.

You're saying there are dramatic changes, yet the range of electricity generation has been the same since 2014 till date. The average number of annual grid collapses has been the same since 2014 till date.

If you are saying a tweet to explain the first collapse of this year is "competence and positive attitude" for the first time in more than 2 years, forgive me for being skeptic until it happens consecutively for at least a dozen other times this year before I agree with you.

Because at least since 2014, the TCN has been giving updates about every collapse, like the CBN gives quarterly update about the rates since forever. Saying a tweet shows competence pretty much buttresses my point that your brain is underdeveloped.

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by obailala(m): 7:32pm On Jan 03
LordAdam16:


Maybe you should cross-check figures before posting them. I know I do.

And you're yet to show me where I said GEJ spent nothing. Since you have comprehension problems.
Huh?!
Cross-check what nonsense?... What's the different between 'over $8bn', $8.26bn vs $8.5bn? Instead of simply admitting your simple error and moving on to something else, you keep churning out this nonsense like a girl child desperate to win an argument?

By the way, go back and read my first response again; this time, try and read it slowly and apply your elementary school comprehension skills and maybe you will comprehend what I said without repeating your above silly question about GEJ spending nothing. I will help remind you below:
obailala:

POWER SECTOR SPEND
Firstly, cant you hear how incoherent you sound?... You first claimed OBJ wasted $16billion, then you claimed GEJ didn't spend much on the power sector...... (you obviously were blind to the word 'much')

.....But then, you emphatically stated that GEJ spent nothing on the power sector, but below are some reports which claims he spent over $8 billion..... (you obviously expect me to break everything down to kindergarten level for you right?... You are ignorant of the use of hyperboles to lay emphasis right?)


It's not blabbing when I provide links and facts to back my arguments, whereas you're either typing out of your a** or making unsubstantiated statements.

Yar'Adua spent $5b on NIPP in 2 yers. GEJ spent $8b on NIPP in 5 years. Maybe you should help me find out how much OBJ spent on the NIPP in 2 years.

Right now, the NIPP is like the refineries.

I maintain that the bulk of OBJ's $16b spending was not on the NIPP, like you erroneously assumed. And I backed it up with facts.

The bottom line is that if OBJ hadn't constituted the NIPP, Yar'Adua wouldn't have to spend that $5b, and GEJ wouldn't have had to spend $8b (if they did, it would have been on more useful things like rural electrification and improving transmission capacity). And I bet Buhari is spending his own billions. Yet OBJ would have clearly spent above $10b. So who among the three was wasteful?

I don't know why it's hard for you to think critically. I know you're capable of doing so, but for reasons best known to you, you choose not to.
So the bone of contention to you is now NIPP?... You are now trying to say the NIPPs are useless and a bad idea simply because OBJ started them right?... And by the way, I'm still struggling to see where I mentioned that the $16bn spent on the power sector was spent on NIPP alone. What on earth is wrong with you? Are you on drugs or what? angry


So why did you bloody mention that GEJ handed over 2000MW if you weren't trying to be mischievous?

Do you hear yourself?

You know there was a reason why it fell to 2000MW. You know it was usually around 4500MW under GEJ. Yet you felt the need to mention that on the week of the handover, it fell to below 2000MW without stating the reason why. Does that not reek of political meandering?



My simple question is that why did you have to mention that it dropped below 2000MW on the week before handover without stating the reason why? Even more importantly, why did you have to share that information, without being objective to explain why, in the same post that you were accusing GEJ of being corrupt and wasteful?

Or do you think you're conversing with a kid?

I've told you. This is a new year. Leave those your stupid*ty and political mischief in 2017.

-Lord
Did power supply drop below 2000mw or not?... YES or NO! So what exactly has your silly arguments all evening been all about?
I simply responded to a person who threw a jab at Fashola/Buhari over the temporary failure in the power grid last night; the person ascribed the temporary failure to Buhari being a certificateless illiterate and I pointed out to her that the same power failure also happened even at the handover week of the last PhD holder president. And then you ignorantly jump into my mentions like a lost sheep with all manner of obscenities. After making a fool of yourself, it is only now that your brain tells you to ask why I had to mention the system collapse in the first place? ... What sort of nagging old wife are you? undecided

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Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 8:13pm On Jan 03
obailala:
Huh?!
Cross-check what nonsense?... What's the different between 'over $8bn', $8.26bn vs $8.5bn? Instead of simply admitting your simple error and moving on to something else, you keep churning out this nonsense like a girl child desperate to win an argument?

You did not say "over $8b." And $8.26b is not $8.5b.

Cross-check your figures before posting them or you'll be called out. Very simple.

By the way, go back and read my first response again; this time, try and read it slowly and apply your elementary school comprehension skills and maybe you will comprehend what I said without repeating your above silly question about GEJ spending nothing. I will help remind you below:

Dumbito, is this not part of the same post?

But then, you emphatically stated that GEJ spent nothing on the power sector, but below are some reports which claims he spent over $8 billion (still to no avail exactly just like OBJ), I did not create these reports so you have no right to call me stupid.

And then I asked where did I state GEJ spent nothing, and then you went on a shameful tirade.

Now who has comprehension problems?

So the bone of contention to you is now NIPP?... You are now trying to say the NIPPs are useless and a bad idea simply because OBJ started them right?... And by the way, I'm still struggling to see where I mentioned that the $16bn spent on the power sector was spent on NIPP alone. What on earth is wrong with you? Are you on drugs or what? angry

Your madness don enter new gear.

GEJ spent over $8b on NIPP in 5 years -- https://www.businessdayonline.com/fg-spends-8-26bn-on-power-sector-inaugurates-nipp-olorunsogo-ogun/

Yar'Adua spent over $5b on NIPP in 2 years -- https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/power-sector-senate-probes-obj-yaradua-jonathan/

OBJ spent over $6b on the same NIPP in 2 years.

Note that they are the same links you provided.

Now let me ask you, if three successive governments spent over $19b on one project (and a fourth one is still spending) and the project isn't complete yet, is that project a good idea? I don't know what your problem is. Why are trying so hard to be s*lly?

Yar'Adua and GEJ had already zeroed their mind to privatize PHCN, but they had to meet the power generation commitments started by OBJ. Buhari is also meeting the same commitments. The NIPP is a white elephant project. So again I ask, who is more wasteful?


Did power supply drop below 2000mw or not?... YES or NO! So what exactly has your silly arguments all evening been all about?
I simply responded to a person who threw a jab at Fashola/Buhari over the temporary failure in the power grid last night; the person ascribed the temporary failure to Buhari being a certificateless illiterate and I pointed out to her that the same power failure also happened even at the handover week of the last PhD holder president. And then you ignorantly jump into my mentions like a lost sheep with all manner of obscenities. After making a fool of yourself, it is only now that your brain tells you to ask why I had to mention the system collapse in the first place? ... What sort of nagging old wife are you? undecided

Since you have trouble comprehending, the question is why did you have to mention the drop during the handover week, without stating the reason?

Your entire post reeked of "it happened under GEJ, so keep shut about it happening under PMB," but you didn't give any perspective. How hard would it have been for you to explain why the collapse is usual, and use GEJ or Yar'Adua or OBJ's time as an example.

Your post was more about demonizing GEJ and his efforts in the electricity sector than explaining why the collapse under PMB was not unusual.

If you can't be objective abstain from making cynical jabs.

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by bigass(f): 10:00pm On Jan 03
LordAdam16:


You did not say "over $8b." And $8.26b is not $8.5b.

Cross-check your figures before posting them or you'll be called out. Very simple.



Dumbito, is this not part of the same post?



And then I asked where did I state GEJ spent nothing, and then you went on a shameful tirade.

Now who has comprehension problems?



Your madness don enter new gear.

GEJ spent over $8b on NIPP in 5 years -- https://www.businessdayonline.com/fg-spends-8-26bn-on-power-sector-inaugurates-nipp-olorunsogo-ogun/

Yar'Adua spent over $5b on NIPP in 2 years -- https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/power-sector-senate-probes-obj-yaradua-jonathan/

OBJ spent over $6b on the same NIPP in 2 years.

Note that they are the same links you provided.

Now let me ask you, if three successive governments spent over $19b on one project (and a fourth one is still spending) and the project isn't complete yet, is that project a good idea? I don't know what your problem is. Why are trying so hard to be s*lly?

Yar'Adua and GEJ had already zeroed their mind to privatize PHCN, but they had to meet the power generation commitments started by OBJ. Buhari is also meeting the same commitments. The NIPP is a white elephant project. So again I ask, who is more wasteful?




Since you have trouble comprehending, the question is why did you have to mention the drop during the handover week, without stating the reason?

Your entire post reeked of "it happened under GEJ, so keep shut about it happening under PMB," but you didn't give any perspective. How hard would it have been for you to explain why the collapse is usual, and use GEJ or Yar'Adua or OBJ's time as an example.

Your post was more about demonizing GEJ and his efforts in the electricity sector than explaining why the collapse under PMB was not unusual.

If you can't be objective abstain from making cynical jabs.

-Lord

Common get off it. GEJ was defeated and he's not coming back. Stop comparing PMB with GEJ . Compare PMB with what standard is supposed to be. Criticise him but stop comparing him with GEJ.
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by deomelo: 10:18pm On Jan 03
LordAdam16:


Oga, even if I'm mad, I wouldn't debate sh*t with you.

At least I know obailala problem is bias and selective reporting, although he has the capacity to reason. Bigass wouldn't read to save his/her life. Your own is that you simply do not have the capacity to think for yourself. Your brain is underdeveloped. I'm pretty sure you have a single-digit IQ, and that's me being generous.

If I climbed to your ego, it'd take me years to fall to your IQ. So anywhere you see my post, jump am pass.

You're saying there are dramatic changes, yet the range of electricity generation has been the same since 2014 till date. The average number of annual grid collapses has been the same since 2014 till date.

If you are saying a tweet to explain the first collapse of this year is "competence and positive attitude" for the first time in more than 2 years, forgive me for being skeptic until it happens consecutively for at least a dozen other times this year before I agree with you.

Because at least since 2014, the TCN has been giving updates about every collapse, like the CBN gives quarterly update about the rates since forever. Saying a tweet shows competence pretty much buttresses my point that your brain is underdeveloped.

-Lord





Stop boring me with your ignorant ipob essays, peddle that trash elsewhere.
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by obailala(m): 12:40am On Jan 04
LordAdam16:


You did not say "over $8b." And $8.26b is not $8.5b.

Cross-check your figures before posting them or you'll be called out. Very simple.
Shut up and stop fooling yourself further. Accept that you goofed and just shut up already.

Dumbito, is this not part of the same post?

And then I asked where did I state GEJ spent nothing, and then you went on a shameful tirade.

Now who has comprehension problems?
Quit this your by-force daftness, even an infant or an idiot knows some money was definitely spent on the power sector, I dont have to explain the use of a hyperbole to a grown adult. Within the same context where I mentioned "GEJ spent nothing", I had earlier used "GEJ didnt spend much" and that should be clear enough for any sane adult to comprehend my point. I know you are educated, so use your brain and stop quoting me to repeat this nonsense about "GEJ spending nothing" vs "GEJ not spending much."

Your madness don enter new gear.

GEJ spent over $8b on NIPP in 5 years -- https://www.businessdayonline.com/fg-spends-8-26bn-on-power-sector-inaugurates-nipp-olorunsogo-ogun/

Yar'Adua spent over $5b on NIPP in 2 years -- https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/power-sector-senate-probes-obj-yaradua-jonathan/

OBJ spent over $6b on the same NIPP in 2 years.

Note that they are the same links you provided.

Now let me ask you, if three successive governments spent over $19b on one project (and a fourth one is still spending) and the project isn't complete yet, is that project a good idea? I don't know what your problem is. Why are trying so hard to be s*lly?

Yar'Adua and GEJ had already zeroed their mind to privatize PHCN, but they had to meet the power generation commitments started by OBJ. Buhari is also meeting the same[b] commitments. The NIPP is a white elephant project[/b]. So again I ask, who is more wasteful?
So because 3 Nigerian presidents in 16 years squandered over $19billion on NIPPs and couldnt effectively boost Nigeria's power generation, your brain now interprets it that NIPPs are bad projects?... And all this senselessness is just in a desperate bid to demonize OBJ for initiating the NIPPs and exonerate GEJ for spending over $8bn with no clear results?... Did someone sacrifice your brain to some diabolic deity?


Since you have trouble comprehending, the question is why did you have to mention the drop during the handover week, without stating the reason?

Your entire post reeked of "it happened under GEJ, so keep shut about it happening under PMB," but you didn't give any perspective. How hard would it have been for you to explain why the collapse is usual, and use GEJ or Yar'Adua or OBJ's time as an example.

Your post was more about demonizing GEJ and his efforts in the electricity sector than explaining why the collapse under PMB was not unusual.

If you can't be objective abstain from making cynical jabs.

-Lord
Your daftness is truly on steroids. I was gracious enough to clearly explain the reason why I mentioned the power grid failure in the week of handover, but you probably did not bother reading my last response, or you were just too compulsively daft to comprehend what I was saying. I'm sorry, I wouldn't be responding to this your stupid question again, if you need that answer, you can seek the services of your primary 2 nephew/neice or child to read and explain to you what I wrote in my last response to you.

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Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 1:11am On Jan 04
obailala:
Shut up and stop fooling yourself further. Accept that you goofed and just shut up already.

How about you take your own advice?

Confirm your figures before posting it as gospel truth. How is that so difficult to do, that you have to be so recklessly adamant?

Quit this your by-force daftness, even an infant or an idiot knows some money was definitely spent on the power sector, I dont have to explain the use of a hyperbole to a grown adult. Within the same context where I mentioned "GEJ spent nothing", I had earlier used "GEJ didnt spend much" and that should be clear enough for any sane adult to comprehend my point. I know you are educated, so use your brain and stop quoting me to repeat this nonsense about "GEJ spending nothing" vs "GEJ not spending much."

Trash!

Are you going to show me where I said GEJ spent nothing or not?

Don't misquote me, then try to lecture me on literary devices when I call you out on your st*pidity.

So because 3 Nigerian presidents in 16 years squandered over $19billion on NIPPs and couldnt effectively boost Nigeria's power generation, your brain now interprets it that NIPPs are bad projects?... And all this senselessness is just in a desperate bid to demonize OBJ for initiating the NIPPs and exonerate GEJ for spending over $8bn with no clear results?... Did someone sacrifice your brain to some diabolic deity?

I asked a very simple question you've refused to answer. If three successive governments spent over $19b on one project (and a fourth one is still spending) and the project isn't complete yet, is that project a good idea?

Answer the question and stop foaming in your mouth.

Your daftness is truly on steroids. I was gracious enough to clearly explain the reason why I mentioned the power grid failure in the week of handover, but you probably did not bother reading my last response, or you were just too compulsively daft to comprehend what I was saying. I'm sorry, I wouldn't be responding to this your stupid question again, if you need that answer, you can seek the services of your primary 2 nephew/neice or child to read and explain to you what I wrote in my last response to you.

I'll repeat myself, since it appears it got lost on you the first time.

"If you can't be objective abstain from making cynical jabs."

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by obailala(m): 1:20am On Jan 04
LordAdam16:


How about you take your own advice?

Confirm your figures before posting it as gospel truth. How is that so difficult to do, that you have to be so recklessly adamant?



Trash!

Are you going to show me where I said GEJ spent nothing or not?

Don't misquote me, then try to lecture me on literary devices when I call you out on your st*pidity.



I asked a very simple question you've refused to answer. If three successive governments spent over $19b on one project (and a fourth one is still spending) and the project isn't complete yet, is that project a good idea?

Answer the question and stop foaming in your mouth.



I'll repeat myself, since it appears it got lost on you the first time.

"If you can't be objective abstain from making cynical jabs."

-Lord
I've honoured this stupidity with enough responses already. Go back to my previous responses for any answers you seek.. Be gone!
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by deomelo: 1:31am On Jan 04
obailala:
I've honoured this stupidity with enough responses already. Go back to my previous responses for any answers you seek.. Be gone!



you really should have ignored that troll and internet nuisance, he'll troll you to death and keep you going in circles with the same repetitive dumb, unintelligent and ignorant essays.

I have zero tolerance for that troll.
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by obailala(m): 1:42am On Jan 04
deomelo:


you really should have ignored that troll and internet nuisance, he'll troll you to death and keep you going in circles with the same repetitive dumb, unintelligent and ignorant essays.

I have zero tolerance for that troll.
Seriously, I just realised I've been attempting to explain the same things to him over and over again all day, but it seems like he keeps ignoring all my responses and he returns with the same dumb questions again.
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by HeWrites(m): 4:02am On Jan 04
Talkwell:
He. Writes fmodify lone yof cyour aolder posts and post the name then add spacing in between each letter to prevent a mention for her cheesy



I've seen the person b4 but I've forgotten the acct

The first 5 letters I added to dat to this quote is her moniker
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 8:27am On Jan 04
obailala:
I've honoured this stupidity with enough responses already. Go back to my previous responses for any answers you seek.. Be gone!

Skimping on answering simple questions. How typical of a dumb-a$$.

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by LordAdam16: 8:49am On Jan 04
bigass:


Common get off it. GEJ was defeated and he's not coming back. Stop comparing PMB with GEJ . Compare PMB with what standard is supposed to be. Criticise him but stop comparing him with GEJ.

There is no such thing as "what standard is supposed to be" in Nigeria.

We aren't ever going to have the Mandelas, Lees, and Dengs. Our current political system can't produce nor support such visionaries. And even though we have the Iweals, Dukes, Adesinas, and Ribadus that could theoretically perform better than our past (and present) leaders, there is ZERO guarantee that they too would not be bogged down by the ethnicity, sycophancy, religious, and a dozen other interests and factors that had thwarted the efforts of previous leaders.

For example, as much as PMB is an Islamist, the lack of a proper response to the Fulani militia madness is partly because he doesn't care, and partly because that could put him at loggerheads with the core of his supporters who are Islamic fundamentalists and mostly Hausa-Fulani. With 2019 around the corner, and the South belatedly fed up with him, I'd wager PMB is not ready to commit political suicide regardless of how many people die.

Ditto for GEJ. After the debacle that was Boko Haram, with the push against the war from the Northern corridor, and the saboteurs he had to deal with, he wasn't willing to start off another round of merry-go-round with the Fulani militia, lest it be affirmed as him being anti-Fulani. The Fulani militia killed over 1000 people in 2014.

There's no Presidential candidate currently that'd do anything tangible about the menace, not until it leads to a major crisis. Not Buhari, not Atiku, not Kwankwaso, not Dankwambo, not even Fayose. In a sane country, this wouldn't be so.

And that is the primary reason why I'd compare Buhari or whoever comes after him with the most advanced democratic leader we've had in 60 years. He may not be coming back, but he's set the bar everyone after him must cross to prove their mettle.

If you have a problem with that, you can either take a bow or use a bloody rope to do the needful. I'm not writing to impress anyone.

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by obailala(m): 9:33am On Jan 04
LordAdam16:


Skimping on answering simple questions. How typical of a dumb-a$$.

-Lord
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by Talkwell: 12:35pm On Jan 04
HeWrites:


The first 5 letters I added to dat to this quote is her moniker
Wehdone

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Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by StrawberryGloss(f): 12:52pm On Jan 04
jumaian:

Are you living in a remote village? Or where exactly?

Hi?
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by PrecisionFx(m): 9:19pm On Jan 04
deomelo:




This is not about us sugar quoting anything, it's more about your own dark state of mind and bitterness and anger against Nigeria and basic human progress.

Your sad, pathetic and evil wishing posts are right here on NL and they say a lot about you and your bitter, angry and bigoted state of mind.

Stop denying who you are, what you are and what you wish against Nigeria as a country.






""Your sad, pathetic and evil wishing posts are right here on NL and they say a lot about you and your bitter, angry and bigoted state of mind""

Looooooooooooooooooool.
Pls show me my evil wishing posts on nairaland. grin
Re: Federal Ministry Of Power's Statement On The Blackout On The National Grid. by PrecisionFx(m): 9:22pm On Jan 04
ManMountain:


The question you should ask yourself is whether the power supply is getting better or worse to pre-2015 level

To me it is only a wicked and deceitful person that will be blind to the progress in the sector

Pls show me any energy generation structure or power plants that buhari has built n commissioned since may 2015

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