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I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 1:32pm On Jan 03
Even the section on Nairaland , you need to swear an oath, but christians are mumu people and we can be trampled upon anyhow , I wrote a post on facebook I will share it here :
This may look like bigotry but if you read carefully and drop all forms of sentiments wether ethic or religious , you would see I am saying the truth .

I am disappointed in MOST of my muslim brothers here, I have seen none of you except Balogun Ridwan Adetayo (whom I have utmost respect for,bless you bro) comment or stand against this rubbish going on not just in Nigeria but all over the world .

I am also disappointed in MURIC ,the leader is more concerned about which holiday federal government is giving to christains and crying foul,ignoring the injustice going on around the country. (correct me if I am wrong).

About a year or two ago a RCCG evangelist was murdered in Abuja, just because she was seen as an "infidel" disturbing their peace (correct me if I am wrong) she had a husband and children , no body was brought to book (correct me again if I am wrong).Yet muslims especially the hausas /fulanis can walk freely anywhere they like , even right through a christian crusade, even if you lay your mat to pray in front of a church no one would lay a finger on you .The worse is you would be asked or forced to leave the premises without a scratch .Can I say the same about a mosque ?, in May 2017 a man was killed also in Abuja, he was f**"cking killed for urinating outside a mosque , out f**"cking side !!!.You might claim he was ignorant and he knew the "consequences",is this your definition of a religion of peace ?

I am not relating violence to only muslims , after all a christain man opened fire in the US recently killing many people .

But can you with your church, sorry mosque mind , kindly go through the statistics of sucide killings and truthfully say what platform or religion most of these people used as a source of motivation ?

But they are always picking on and killing christains , because "they cant do anything" "they would only pray thats it" "they would only call on their Jesus and drink his blood(An Imam said this in a naming ceremony near my house and so many uprintable trash). just imagine the massacre that would have occured if an alfa was killed for preaching islam in a christain community , or an aboki killed for urinating near a church .Naija would have ended by now .

This poo has to stop, if you claim its not in line with your doctrine , then f**"cking say something , f**"cking talk ! .I am angry !!!, innocent people die everyday .

Before you try to tell me I dont know what I am saying , I was very little but I have a crazily retentive memory . I remember around 2001 when we were in the north around sabon geri in Kano(I hope I got the spelling right ), I can still remember the fear that gripped me when my family and I were almost burnt alive in a bus because our driver made a mistake and hit a smaller car causing a fatal accident , and they wanted to take more lives on purpose , because someone made a mistake of taking lives , what is the logic in that ?.Where is the peace in that , where is the humanity !!!

i remeber when my mum was warned very well that if she dare pass beside (not inbetween oo) she would be lynched when they are having their afternoon praayer (and they blocked the entire f**"cking road that leads to the market ) and my sisters and i were hungry at home . I was little but I remember.

My dad spent almost half his life growing up in the north , if i start compiling stories from him we wont leave here .

If you claim this is a religion of peace , we need to see more action on your end , especially you so called educated lots .

If you fold your arms and can sleep at night , while people who call themselves your brothers kill and maim for very absurd reasons then you have no heart and pratice no peace .

If people who do all these call themselves your brothers and you dont come out to speak against this evil done by people who affiliate themselves with your religion then what you are doing is not peace .

oooo I have a lot more to write , should i start mentioning Boko Haram ?, the hundreds if not thousands that have died ?, you would want to claim its politically inspired .I asked a muslim friend once what he thinks about all these , the f**"cktard said he has nothing to say , he couldnt even say it was wrong, even if it was just for pretence ,logically he supported it in a way .

The same f**"cktard claims Jesus is a prophet in Islam , what the f**"ck did you smoke brah ?.

I know there are still good ones among you , who place humanity before anything .I hate calling christianity a religion because its not, but my religion places people first including so called infidels and sinners , infact its more concerned about their spiritual and physical welfare.

So the good lots among you like Balogun Ridwan Adetayo (who has already spoken up)who care about human life ,should speak up.

This has to end.
And if you dont care,I say this with no regret. f**"ck YOU .
But I still pray your hearts change , and your minds be reformed .
My heart and prayer goes out to all those who have lost families and loved ones.
Once again f**"ck YOU if you feel comfortable with all these evil going on without speaking up.

For the record, if Christians tried this trash , I would have bashed them even more, recently CAN has been doing and saying some stupid poo I will write about you people soon .

If you feel I hurt your religion in any way , I apologize , I just cant see evil and keep quiet ,I just cant see the truth and choose to tell a lie .
I am also in no way trying to paint myself perfect .
We need to see more of the peace you claim to represent , it can start by you speaking up

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by delishpot: 1:47pm On Jan 03
Islam forbids other Muslims form speaking against a Muslim who fight unbelievers in Allah's name. They will only complain if a Muslim kills another. Then they will boldly protest and say this is not Islam, but as long as they are killing, enslaving or destroying places of worship of other gods except Allah, NO single Muslim would speak against them. If they do, you can be sure that they are a minority and are probably hated by the majority of the sect.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by greatnaija01: 1:49pm On Jan 03
The anger of muslims shows how much they fear being exposed as false. If Christians take similar measures, there would be WAR.

But the END is all that matters, a god who needs defenders is not real. a god who claims to have created all mankind BUT does not love even unbelievers is actually false.

A god who threatens or rules his minions with FEAR and BRUTALITY against even those with slightest varying views is not god but a goat.

THIS IS SAD but naija can condone rubbiiissshh

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 1:50pm On Jan 03
delishpot:
Islam forbids other Muslims form speaking against a Muslim who fight unbelievers in Allah's name. They will only complain if a Muslim kills another. Then they will boldly protest and say this is not Islam, but as long as they are killing, enslaving or destroying places of worship of other gods except Allah, NO single Muslim would speak against them. If they do, you can be sure that they are a minority and are probably hated by the majority of the sect.
Can you imagine !

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 1:52pm On Jan 03
greatnaija01:
The anger of muslims shows how much they fear being exposed as false. If Christians take similar measures, there would be WAR.

But the END is all that matters, a god who needs defenders is not real. a god who claims to have created all mankind BUT does not love even unbelievers is actually false.

A god who threatens or rules his minions with FEAR and BRUTALITY against even those with slightest varying views is not god but a goat.

THIS IS SAD but naija can condone rubbiiissshh

Its really sad cry
People as in real human beings die everyday , we cant feel the heat because we are down south and we only read it in the news

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Sleekydee(m): 1:54pm On Jan 03
Islam hs issues. simple

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jan 03
Come and force us to speak. Your write up is full of hatred

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 2:04pm On Jan 03
Elmuaz:
Come and force us to speak. Your write up is full of hatred
Biko, tell me how its full of hatred , point to one hate speech .Just one
You left the subject matter and you are trying to fish out what is non-existent
Do you realise that actual humans are dying ?, this is not a Hollywood movie, real people with real families are dying .
Children are loosing their mothers and fathers , parents are loosing their children .
I even puposely excluded the Imams and traditional rulers that marry force underage children into marriage (is this hate speech too ?)
Oga , I am trying not to say anything that would hurt you
Dont you have a heart ?

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by cleatoris: 2:06pm On Jan 03
Elmuaz:
Come and force us to speak. Your write up is full of hatred
Islam is sustained by evil.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by cleatoris: 2:12pm On Jan 03
Donald3d:
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I even puposely excluded the Imams and traditional rulers that marry force underage children into marriage (is this hate speech too ?)
Oga , I am trying not to say anything that would hurt you
Dont you have a heart ?
The constant cravings to commit terror to please his god has eaten up his Islamic heart.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Saaruman(m): 2:17pm On Jan 03
delishpot:
Islam forbids other Muslims form speaking against a Muslim who fight unbelievers in Allah's name. They will only complain if a Muslim kills another. Then they will boldly protest and say this is not Islam, but as long as they are killing, enslaving or destroying places of worship of other gods except Allah, NO single Muslim would speak against them. If they do, you can be sure that they are a minority and are probably hated by the majority of the sect.
You know them. That is how they play TAQIYA over mumu Christians in the zoo.
I said this several times and I will say it again; The only way to put these violent people in their rightful place is for Christians to revert back to Jewish law: An Eye for an Eye".

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by mujahid777(m): 2:19pm On Jan 03
greatnaija01:
The anger of muslims shows how much they fear being exposed as false. If Christians take similar measures, there would be WAR.

But the END is all that matters, a god who needs defenders is not real. a god who claims to have created all mankind BUT does not love even unbelievers is actually false.

A god who threatens or rules his minions with FEAR and BRUTALITY against even those with slightest varying views is not god but a goat.

THIS IS SAD but naija can condone rubbiiissshh

Don't insult Yahweh o




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EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows
down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave
may be beaten to death with no punishment for
the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die
too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side,
and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
the camp, and slay every man his brother, and
every man his companion, and every man his
neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if
they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before
your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you,
which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a
punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the
flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers
and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An
example is given in JG 11:30-39 )
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great
plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven
days because she and Aaron had spoken against
Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had
gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at
the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open
and swallow up the men and their households
(including wives and children) because the men
had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250
men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700
people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the
Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill
many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites
slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until
there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses,
take all the heads of the people, and hang them
up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the
tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of
Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the
Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women
and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all the
Midianite male children and "... every woman who
has known man ...." (Note: How would it be
determined which women had known men? One
can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the
Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to
be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to
"utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those
whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women"
from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no
delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the
flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your
God has given you."
JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing
for all the bloody endeavors to follow.
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and
children--with the edge of the sword.
JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are
stoned to death because Achan had taken a
taboo thing.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men
and women, so that there were none who
escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua
utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua
defeated the whole land ...; he left none
remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the
Lord God of Israel commanded."
JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung.
(Exceedingly cruel.)
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand
of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was
none left that breathed ...."
JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden
their hearts that they should come against Israel
in battle, in order that they should be utterly
destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be
exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."
JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.
JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats
10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.
JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues
Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his
thumbs and big toes.
JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites
Jerusalem.
JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and
Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who
inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600
Philistines with an oxgoad.
JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it
through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the
ground.
JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites,
slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring
the heads back to Gideon.
JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of
Penuel.
JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.
JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people
in the city.
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his
head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to
his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me,
so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his
servant ran him through, and he died."
JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved
daughter, his only child, according to a vow he
has made with the Lord.
JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a
man and causes him to slay thirty men.
JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the
jawbone of an ass.
JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's
eyes.
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord,
pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and
causes his own death and that of 3000 other men
and women.
JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and
unsuspecting people of Laish.
JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men
beat on the door of an old man's house
demanding that he turn over to them a male
house guest. Instead, the old man offers his
virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or
wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and
his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish
them and do with them what seems good to you;
but against this man do not do so vile a thing."
The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The
man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and
sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of
Israel.
JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of
valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and
beasts and all that they found," and set their
towns on fire.
JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of
Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and;
also the women and little ones.... every male and
every woman that has lain with a male you shall
utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred
young virgins whom they bring back for their own
use.
1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot
soldiers.
1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with
tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for
having stolen the Ark.
1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for
looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early
Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's
abode.)
1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the
Philistines.
1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his
men cut down the Ammonites.
1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the
Philistines.
1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.
1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now
go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have; do not spare them, but kill both man
and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep,
camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed
all the people with the edge of the sword."
1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before
the Lord ...."
1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry:
"Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten
thousands."
1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman
alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and
infants were included in the slaughter.)
1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.
2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.
2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.
2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth,
behead him, and take his head to David.
2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed,
their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies
hanged by the pool at Hebron.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded
him, and smote the Philistines ...."
2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having
exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren
throughout her life.
2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's
murderous conquests.)
2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the
horses.
2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.
2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David
wherever he went."
2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the
valley of salt and made the rest slaves.
2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.
2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he
can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.
2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead
for the sin that David has committed.
2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes
her, then hates her.
2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.
2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the
battle in the forest of Ephraim.
2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.
2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and
leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the
highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him,
stopped."
2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel
that kills 70,000 men.
1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.
1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.
1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.
1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating
bread and drinking water in a place where the
Lord had previously told him not to. This is in
spite of the fact that the man had subsequently
been lied to by a prophet who told the man that
an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright
to eat and drink there.
1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian
soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000
remaining Syrians.
2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and
consumes fifty men.
2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and
killed, presumably according to the will of God,
for having jeered at a man of God.
2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his
descendants forever with leprosy.
2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and
strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks
the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.
2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The
next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we
may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.
2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed.
2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is
trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that
only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands
remain.
2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded,
then sends the heads to their father.
2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.
2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he
slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he
had wiped them out, according to the word of the
Lord ...."
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the
Baal worshippers.
2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.
2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then
10,000 Edomites.
2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in
the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with
leprosy for not having removed the "high places."
2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women
who were pregnant.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.
1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people
that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with
harrows of iron, and with axes."
2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.
2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.
PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your
little ones against the stones.
PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains
hands for war and fingers for battle.
IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust
through; all who are caught will fall by the
sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."
IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young
men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the
fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare
children."
IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for
the iniquity of their fathers."
IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of
the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to
become drunk on their own blood as with wine.
JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be
buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face
of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall
be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the
beasts of the earth."
LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off
than those who die of famine; racked with
hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ...
pitiful women have cooked their own children,
who became their food ..."
EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the
sword, famine and plague. He that is far away
will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall
by the sword, and he that survives and is spared
will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon
them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the
people lie slain among their idols around their
altars, on every high hill and on all the
mountaintops, under every spreading tree and
every leafy oak ...."
EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men
outright, young men and maidens, little children
and women ...."
EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the
Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves
through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of
their first-born children.
EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both
the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall
go against all flesh.
EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and
daughters of those who were whores.
EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and
tear your breasts."
HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their
infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up."
MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their
flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh
of my people, and flay their skin from off them;
and they break their bones, and chop them in
pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the
caldron."
MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 ,
25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity
burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and
gnashing of teeth.
MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his
brother to death, and the father his child, ...
children shall rise up against their parents, and
cause them to be put to death."
MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man
against his father, a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a
man's enemies will be the members of his own
family."
MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of]
three cities who were not sufficiently impressed
with his great works.
AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though
not permanently).

....his followers continue his work,making daddy proud murdering millions in his name throughout the course of history

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by sekxyqueen(f): 2:22pm On Jan 03
educated or not...all of them are potential terrorist

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by mujahid777(m): 2:28pm On Jan 03
So what do you want us to do.Start crying

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 2:33pm On Jan 03
mujahid777:
So what do you want us to do.Start crying
I am not surprised at your reply
You openly support jihad,na your type God dey like use pass.
Before 10 years complete I prophesy you go turn pastor.My words don't go out in vain .
Jesus would fish you out

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by usba: 2:43pm On Jan 03
delishpot:
Islam forbids other Muslims form speaking against a Muslim who fight unbelievers in Allah's name. They will only complain if a Muslim kills another. Then they will boldly protest and say this is not Islam, but as long as they are killing, enslaving or destroying places of worship of other gods except Allah, NO single Muslim would speak against them. If they do, you can be sure that they are a minority and are probably hated by the majority of the sect.


Unfortunately Christians on nairaland lie more than the devil, a good number of them that is, no wonder this thread was done for them:
vedaxcool:
Major Spoiler Alert!!! smiley


. . . emmm, [size=18pt]MUSLIMS ACTUALLY CONDEMN TERRORISM, ISLAMPHOBES WISH THEY DON'T.[/size] Often atimes we hear strange words, muslims should condemn terrorism, bla bla, yet Muslims seem to be not only at the forefront of condemning terrorism but also making theological arguments invalidating terrorism. This claims often made by extremists mimics the depths of illiteracy and shallowness of bigotry, it has no basis in reality. In this thread we would have a look at major terror incidents and muslims reaction to them.

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Mustafa Mashhur, General Guide, Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt; Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, Pakistan; Muti Rahman Nizami, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, Bangladesh; Shaykh Ahmad Yassin, Founder, Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Palestine; Rashid Ghannoushi, President, Nahda Renaissance Movement, Tunisia; Fazil Nour, President, PAS – Parti Islam SeMalaysia, Malaysia; and 40 other Muslim scholars and politicians:

“The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur’an: ‘No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another’ (Surah al-Isra 17:15).”
MSANews, September 14, 2001 (via archive.org).
Arabic original in al-Quds al-Arabi (London), September 14, 2001, p. 2.

Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi, Qatar; Tariq Bishri, Egypt; Muhammad S. Awwa, Egypt; Fahmi Huwaydi, Egypt; Haytham Khayyat, Syria; Shaykh Taha Jabir al-Alwani, U.S.:
“All Muslims ought to be united against all those who terrorize the innocents, and those who permit the killing of non-combatants without a justifiable reason. Islam has declared the spilling of blood and the destruction of property as absolute prohibitions until the Day of Judgment. … [It is] necessary to apprehend the true perpetrators of these crimes, as well as those who aid and abet them through incitement, financing or other support. They must be brought to justice in an impartial court of law and [punished] appropriately. … [It is] a duty of Muslims to participate in this effort with all possible means.”
Statement of September 27, 2001.

Shaykh Muhammed Sayyid al-Tantawi, imam of al-Azhar mosque in Cairo, Egypt:
“Attacking innocent people is not courageous, it is stupid and will be punished on the day of judgement. … It’s not courageous to attack innocent children, women and civilians. It is courageous to protect freedom, it is courageous to defend oneself and not to attack.”
Agence France Presse, September 14, 2001

Abdel-Mo’tei Bayyoumi, al-Azhar Islamic Research Academy, Cairo, Egypt:
“There is no terrorism or a threat to civilians in jihad [religious struggle].”
Al-Ahram Weekly Online, 20 – 26 September 2001 (via archive.org).

Muslim Brotherhood, an opposition Islamist group in Egypt,
said it was “horrified” by the attack and expressed “condolences and sadness”:
“[We] strongly condemn such activities that are against all humanist and Islamic morals. … [We] condemn and oppose all aggression on human life, freedom and dignity anywhere in the world.”
Al-Ahram Weekly Online, 13 – 19 September 2001 (via archive.org).


Shaykh Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, spiritual guide of the Hizbullah movement in Lebanon, [/b]said he was “horrified” by these “barbaric … crimes”:
“Beside the fact that they are forbidden by Islam, these acts do not serve those who carried them out but their victims, who will reap the sympathy of the whole world. … Islamists who live according to the human values of Islam could not commit such crimes.”
Agence France Presse, September 14, 2001

[b]‘Abdulaziz bin ‘Abdallah Al-Ashaykh, chief mufti of Saudi Arabia:

“Firstly: the recent developments in the United States including hijacking planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood, constitute a form of injustice that cannot be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts. Secondly: any Muslim who is aware of the teachings of his religion and who adheres to the directives of the Holy Qur’an and the sunnah (the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad) will never involve himself in such acts, because they will invoke the anger of God Almighty and lead to harm and corruption on earth.”
Statement of September 15, 2001 (via archive.org).

‘Abdulaziz bin ‘Abdallah Al-Ashaykh, chief mufti of Saudi Arabia:
“You must know Islam’s firm position against all these terrible crimes. The world must know that Islam is a religion of peace and mercy and goodness; it is a religion of justice and guidance…Islam has forbidden violence in all its forms. It forbids the hijacking airplanes, ships and other means of transport, and it forbids all acts that undermine the security of the innocent.”
Hajj sermon of February 2, 2004, in “Public Statements by Senior Saudi Officials Condemning Extremism and Promoting Moderation,” May 2004, page 10 (via archive.org).

Shaikh Saleh Al-Luheidan, Chairman of the Supreme Judicial Council, Saudi Arabia:
“As a human community we must be vigilant and careful to oppose these pernicious and shameless evils, which are not justified by any sane logic, nor by the religion of Islam.”
Statement of September 14, 2001, in “Public Statements by Senior Saudi Officials Condemning Extremism and Promoting Moderation,” May 2004, page 6 (via archive.org).

Shaikh Saleh Al-Luheidan, Chairman of the Supreme Judicial Council, Saudi Arabia:
“And I repeat once again: that this act that the United states was afflicted with, with this vulgarity and barbarism, and which is even more barbaric than terrorist acts, I say that these acts are from the depths of depravity and the worst of evils.”
Televised statement of September 2001, in Muhammad ibn Hussin Al-Qahtani, editor, The Position of Saudi Muslim Scholars Regarding Terrorism in the Name of Islam (Saudi Arabia, 2004), pages 27-28.

Shaykh Muhammad bin ‘Abdallah al-Sabil, member of the Council of Senior Religious Scholars, Saudi Arabia:
“Any attack on innocent people is unlawful and contrary to shari’a (Islamic law). … Muslims must safeguard the lives, honor and property of Christians and Jews. Attacking them contradicts shari’a.”
Agence France Presse, December 4, 2001

Council of Saudi ‘Ulama, fatwa of February 2003:
“What is happening in some countries from the shedding of the innocent blood and the bombing of buildings and ships and the destruction of public and private installations is a criminal act against Islam. … Those who carry out such acts have the deviant beliefs and misleading ideologies and are responsible for the crime. Islam and Muslims should not be held responsible for such actions.”
The Dawn newspaper, Karachi, Pakistan, February 8, 2003 (via archive.org); also in “Public Statements by Senior Saudi Officials Condemning Extremism and Promoting Moderation,” May 2004, page 10 (via archive.org).

Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, chairman of the Sunna and Sira Council, Qatar:
“Our hearts bleed for the attacks that has targeted the World Trade Center [WTC], as well as other institutions in the United States despite our strong oppositions to the American biased policy towards Israel on the military, political and economic fronts. Islam, the religion of tolerance, holds the human soul in high esteem, and considers the attack against innocent human beings a grave sin, this is backed by the Qur’anic verse which reads: ‘Who so ever kills a human being [as punishment] for [crimes] other than manslaughter or [sowing] corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he has killed all mankind, and who so ever saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind’ (Al-Ma’idah:32).”
Statement of September 13, 2001 (via archive.org).

Tahirul Qadri, head of the Awami Tehrik Party, Pakistan:

“Bombing embassies or destroying non-military installations like the World Trade Center is no jihad. … “[T]hose who launched the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks not only killed thousands of innocent people in the United States but also put the lives of millions of Muslims across the world at risk. … Bin Laden is not a prophet that we should put thousands of lives at risk for.”
United Press International, October 18, 2001.

Ayatollah Ali Khamene’i, supreme jurist-ruler of Iran:

“Killing of people, in any place and with any kind of weapons, including atomic bombs, long-range missiles, biological or chemical weopons, passenger or war planes, carried out by any organization, country or individuals is condemned. … It makes no difference whether such massacres happen in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Qana, Sabra, Shatila, Deir Yassin, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq or in New York and Washington.”
Islamic Republic News Agency, September 16, 2001 (via archive.org).

President Muhammad Khatami of Iran:
“[T]he September 11 terrorist blasts in America can only be the job of a group that have voluntarily severed their own ears and tongues, so that the only language with which they could communicate would be destroying and spreading death.”
Address to the United Nations General Assembly, November 9, 2001 (via archive.org).

League of Arab States:
“The General-Secretariat of the League of Arab States shares with the people and government of the United States of America the feelings of revulsion, horror and shock over the terrorist attacks that ripped through the World Trade Centre and Pentagon, inflicting heavy damage and killing and wounding thousands of many nationalities. These terrorist crimes have been viewed by the League as inadmissible and deserving all condemnation. Divergence of views between the Arabs and the United States over the latter’s foreign policy on the Middle East crisis does in no way adversely affect the common Arab attitude of compassion with the people and government of the United States at such moments of facing the menace and ruthlessness of international terrorism. In more than one statement released since the horrendous attacks, the League has also expressed deep sympathy with the families of the victims. In remarks to newsmen immediately following the tragic events, Arab League Secretary-General Amre Moussa described the feelings of the Arab world as demonstrably sympathetic with the American people, particularly with families and individuals who lost their loved ones. “It is indeed tormenting that any country or people or city anywhere in the world be the scene of such disastrous attacks,” he added. While convinced that it is both inconceivable and lamentable that such a large-scale, organised terrorist campaign take place anywhere, anytime, the League believes that the dreadful attacks against WTC and the Pentagon unveil, time and again, that the cancer of terrorism can be extensively damaging if left unchecked. It follows that there is a pressing and urgent need to combat world terrorism. In this context, an earlier call by [Egyptian] President Hosni Mubarak for convening an international conference to draw up universal accord on ways and means to eradicate this phenomenon and demonstrate international solidarity is worthy of active consideration. The Arabs have walked a large distance in the fight against cross-border terrorism by concluding in April 1998 the Arab Agreement on Combating Terrorism.”
September 17, 2001.

Dr. Abdelouahed Belkeziz, Secretary-General of the Organization of the Islamic Conference:

“Following the bloody attacks against major buildings and installations in the United States yesterday, Tuesday, September 11, 2001, Dr. Abdelouahed Belkeziz, secretary-general of the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), stated that he was shocked and deeply saddened when he heard of those attacks which led to the death and injury of a very large number of innocent American citizens. Dr. Belkeziz said he was denouncing and condemning those criminal and brutal acts that ran counter to all covenants, humanitarian values and divine religions foremost among which was Islam.”
Press Release, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, September 12, 2001.

Organization of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers:
“The Conference strongly condemned the brutal terror acts that befell the United States, caused huge losses in human lives from various nationalities and wreaked tremendous destruction and damage in New York and Washington. It further reaffirmed that these terror acts ran counter to the teachings of the divine religions as well as ethical and human values, stressed the necessity of tracking down the perpetrators of these acts in the light of the results of investigations and bringing them to justice to inflict on them the penalty they deserve, and underscored its support of this effort. In this respect, the Conference expressed its condolences to and sympathy with the people and government of the United States and the families of the victims in these mournful and tragic circumstances.”
Final Communique of the Ninth Extraordinary Session of the Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers, October 10, 2001.

Organization of the Islamic Conference, Summit Conference:
“We are determined to fight terrorism in all its forms. … Islam is the religion of moderation. It rejects extremism and isolation. There is a need to confront deviant ideology where it appears, including in school curricula. Islam is the religion of diversity and tolerance.”
Daily Star (Beirut, Lebanon), December 9, 2005.

http://www.nairaland.com/1843878/shocking-reason-why-muslims-dont

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by delishpot: 2:48pm On Jan 03
usba:
[s][/s]

Unfortunately Christians on nairaland lie more than the devil, a good number of them that is, no wonder this thread was done for them:



Okay, condemn Every Muslim that has killed any infidel in the name of Allah.


That long thing you posted up there......YINMU, is that how they show their disdain for people who they believe insult islam? Dont they troop the streets in protest? I have seen Americans marching in protest against its government presence in Iraq, they march in protest against the so called war on terror. When will we see Islam marching against BH, against ISIS etc?

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by mujahid777(m): 2:49pm On Jan 03
Donald3d:
I am not surprised at your reply
You openly support jihad,na your type God dey like use pass.
Before 10 years complete I prophesy you go turn pastor.My words don't go out in vain .
Jesus would fish you out
'turn pastor' cheesy cheesy cheesy
Why won't I support Jihad,it's the pinnacle of worship.
Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by usba: 2:49pm On Jan 03
delishpot:




Okay, condemn Every Muslim that has killed any infidel in the name of Allah.


First acknowledged that you just lied against every Muslim on the planet earth.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 2:53pm On Jan 03
mujahid777:
'turn pastor' cheesy cheesy cheesy Why won't I support Jihad,it's the pinnacle of worship.
Killing other humans is the pinnacle of peace ? I am sure Paul would have laughed this same way you are laughing

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by delishpot: 2:54pm On Jan 03
usba:
[s][/s]

First acknowledged that you just lied against every Muslim on the planet earth.


The typical game...... Chicken would grow teeth before you condemn them. LOL that I lied? grin grin grin grin when right now you have proven my point to be true? I like the deception game. I will not back down, what I said is the truth and even you are a living testimony to my post.

Condemn them and I will open a thread on NL to apologize because you would have shown me that I am truly wrong by that act.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by yanshDoctor: 2:55pm On Jan 03

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by bamidelee: 2:57pm On Jan 03
Donald3d:
Even the section on Nairaland , you need to swear an oath, but christians are mumu people and we can be trampled upon anyhow , I wrote a post on facebook I will share it here :
This may look like bigotry but if you read carefully and drop all forms of sentiments wether ethic or religious , you would see I am saying the truth .
can you pls tell me when a Muslim came here to complain that every govt offices was decorated for Christmas and new year. Xtians block Muslim's appointment during interview of course I know people being affected. Interms of admission into the University we know how xtians reduce the number of Muslim intake and lots more. So I keep on wondering why xtians like raising dusts all the time. If a xtian is President or Governor you people would shout ontop of your voices, you won't allow him to focus on governance. The issue is xtians are not tolerant at all. Who told you that those that killed the wife of rccg pastor are Muslim's.
Am repeating it here again, the incident that happened in Iwo sometimes ago, when xtians threw banger into the church where they were member and started crying Muslim's detonated bomb. If not because they were caught by people around you people would labelled Islam a bad name. I could remember press Men didn't report the story in details then Abosi. I also don't support Muric on that but when you're treating issues be specific don't generalize.
Once again Muslim's have right to Christ than anyone. Wait on till the day of ressurection.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 3:00pm On Jan 03
bamidelee:

can you pls tell me when a Muslim came here to complain that every govt offices was decorated for Christmas and new year. Xtians block Muslim's appointment during interview of course I know people being affected. Interms of admission into the University we know how xtians reduce the number of Muslim intake and lots more. So I keep on wondering why xtians like raising dusts all the time. If a xtian is President or Governor you people would shout ontop of your voices, you won't allow him to focus on governance. The issue is xtians are not tolerant at all. Who told you that those that killed the wife of rccg pastor are Muslim's.
Am repeating it here again, the incident that happened in Iwo sometimes ago, when xtians threw banger into the church where they were member and started crying Muslim's detonated bomb. If not because they were caught by people around you people would labelled Islam a bad name. I could remember press Men didn't report the story in details then Abosi. I also don't support Muric on that but when you're treating issues be specific don't generalize.
Once again Muslim's have right to Christ than anyone. Wait on till the day of ressurection.
You succeeded in twisting and turning the whole thing without talking about innocent people that die everyday, you are mentioning banger ,oga why na

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by usba: 3:05pm On Jan 03
delishpot:



The typical game...... Chicken would grow teeth before you condemn them. LOL that I lied? grin grin grin grin when right now you have proven my point to be true? I like the deception game. I will not back down, what I said is the truth and even you are a living testimony to my post.

Condemn them and I will open a thread on NL to apologize because you would have shown me that I am truly wrong by that act.

I condemn all Muslims who wrongly kill any human being in Allah's name.

I condemn all people who wrongly kill innocent people in the name God or any religion.

It shall never be well with groups who destroy human life for religion.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by mujahid777(m): 3:08pm On Jan 03
Donald3d:

Killing other humans is the pinnacle of peace ?
I am sure Paul would have laughed this same way you are laughing
What do you possibly think is going to make me turn xtian undecided...seeing Jesus like paul did
Even if you split the sun in half or you make the dead talk and command the weather(Ad-dajjal will do these and more) or I die and and find Paul trying to whip me...whatever thing you could possibly think.Nothing! I repeat nothing! can ever make me become xtian.
Only Allah guides me and only He can let me go astray.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Donald3d(m): 3:09pm On Jan 03
mujahid777:

What do you possibly think is going to make me turn xtian undecided...seeing Jesus like paul did
Even if you split the sun in half or you make the dead talk and command the weather(Ad-dajjal will do these and more) or I die and and find Paul trying to whip me...whatever thing you could possibly think.Nothing! I repeat nothing! can ever make me become xtian.
Only Allah guides me and only He can let me go astray.
OK

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by Iblad0994(m): 3:11pm On Jan 03
Donald3d:
You succeeded in twisting and turning the whole thing without talking about innocent people that die everyday, you are mentioning banger ,oga why na

I’m a Muslim and I’m sorry for all that’s happening around the world .
This are just inhuman acts perpetrated by misguided people that quote the Quran out of context walahi.

Let me ask you a question bro .

If you’re in a war and the enemies are coming after you , will you take up a sword or not ?

Don’t look those past hundreds of years as this recent generations. In those times it’s war war war, there are lot of oppressions.

So if God says in the Quran that Muslims need to take up sword and kill the disbelievers then , He is saying it based on the situation at hand which is war.

Come to think of it , if Muslims do not fight back then during the war , Islam will be wiped out and the religion won’t even be alive till this time .

Since it’s Quoted in the Quran, misguided terrorist just take that verse and use upon their fellow devilish companions and say they are fighting jihad when there is no war.

Even in the Bible yherenare lot of verses where God urge his people to fight with the sword against some kingdoms or so. I see a lot but I’m not here for that.

So what I’m saying exactly is that , all those words in the Quran are revealed to prophet muhammad (SAW) during war time , so you won’t expect God to leave them at the mercy of their enemies. That’s why God instructed them to defend themselves.

So people prey on that verses and are using that for their selfish means.

I know some Muslims are crazy, and we have like more than a billion Muslims in the world , so if all Muslims are terrorist or if the ideology of Islam is about terrorism then we all Muslim should have been agent of death but walahi that’s not it .

Thanks.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by yanshDoctor: 3:19pm On Jan 03
i have a bad news and a good news.

between America and Muslim who is the 666? its not america as you or may think, its no one else but Islam. Islam predicted that the world will be conquered for Allah and islamized through nothing else but radicalization. a war and killings (jihad) into submission. i use to doubt and laugh at the Islamic scholars and their believe in Islamic prophecy with their strong desire to fulfill it by conquering the world for Islam, until i did some research as inspired by divine.


the Bad News is that Muslims will succeed in Islamizing the world and Nigeria inclusive. Not because the rest of the world is chasing after economic interest or the churches after money, its a prophecy in the Quran and in the bible about the antiChrist that will emerged, who will torture the children of Christ and make them accept the mark of the beast forcefully. the only way the Muslim will know that everyone accept Islam is to take the word Allah on their forehead and no one shall be left.


what can you do to stop them from succeeding? nothing... its a prophecy from God that must be fulfilled through prophet Daniel.


again, who is an anti Christ? i know you are thinking america? do Americans hate Christ? no.. even though the government is not a follower of Christ, but they are not anti Christ.. America interest to the world is domination of world power to contain other countries and for their economic benefit and not for religious issues. They never hate or torture Christian into submission.


every Muslim believe that America would be destroyed and the world shall be conquered by Islam and many of them want to be part in that martyr to fulfil the Quran for Allah.


How are they going to succeed i still don't know, America might destroyed itself from war with other countries, and Muslim league might arouse against the rest of the world. but the world need to watch out.


Moses and Jesus were the two Covenants, Moses was old Covenant while Jesus the Last Covenant.


and during their birth similar things happened as it was predicted by the prophet long ago. it appeared in the Jews scribe and verifiable from the Jews testimonial.


The similar thing that happed during their birth was that both kings got the message or prophecy that their kingdom would be ruin by a new childbirth.


And they both ordered that every new born baby be killed for that year.


But mohamend claimed to be the last prophet he copied the Jewish testament and the Christian bible, they carried out heavy modification to form the Quran.


Mohamend initiated a new covenant but during his birth there were no killing of babies.

the Jews didn't end their testimonial but expecting a coming Messiah and when Jesus Christ came He ends the testimonial, can you see the relationship?


Now how can the last covenant that ended continued by mohamend after about 600 years? they called out the Jews and Christian which they normally called
"People of the Book" claimed that they tempered with the holy book.

Christians never accuse the Jews for tempering the book nor was it written that the book will be tempered. But mohamend claimed the book was tempered.

What the bible says about the false prophet?

The Islamic Creed is already VERY ANTI-CHRISTIAN.

"Allah is God, Mohamed is the last prophet.
Jesus in NOT the son of God, not divine.
God does not have a son neither a wife.
The Bible can NOT be trusted.
The Gospels were corrupted.
Christians altered the bible.
Spreading Islam by force is acceptable.
Israel must be conquered, and the Jews killed. "


And in 1 John 2:22b (New Living Translation) ...Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.

Muslims deny that Jesus is the SON of God and the Holy book was altered. But Christ never accuse the Jews of tempering with the old testament.

Who is the beast? there are two beasts in revelation 13; the first beast who is often referred to as the Antichrist. And the second beast the false prophet.

" And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. " Rev 13:16-17.


The Quran also has several passages that express concern for the Christian practice of worshipping Jesus Christ as God. It is the Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity that most disturbs Muslims. To Muslims, the worship of any historical figure as God himself is a sacrilege and heresy.


Here is what it says

"If only they [i.e. Christians] had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course, but many of them follow a course that is evil" (5:66).

"Oh People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion, nor say of God anything but the truth. Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was (no more than) a messenger of God, and His Word which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. Say not, 'Trinity.' Desist! It will be better for you, for God is One God, Glory be to Him! (Far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs" (4:171).

"The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is but a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them; how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God(Allah), and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary. Yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him! (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)" (9:30-31).




you be the judge.

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Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by delishpot: 3:19pm On Jan 03
usba:


I condemn all Muslims who wrongly kill any human being in Allah's name.

I condemn all people who wrongly kill innocent people in the name God or any religion.

It shall never be well with groups who destroy human life for religion.


Okay, what do you take to be wrong killing? That is to say, which killing is considered right by you? Let me oil my elbows to write my apology letter.
Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by usba: 3:29pm On Jan 03
delishpot:


Okay, what do you take to be wrong killing? That is to say, which killing is considered right by you? Let me oil my elbows to write my apology letter.


You are obviously a liar without honour
delishpot:



The typical game...... Chicken would grow teeth before you condemn them. LOL that I lied? grin grin grin grin when right now you have proven my point to be true? I like the deception game. I will not back down, what I said is the truth and even you are a living testimony to my post.

Condemn them and I will open a thread on NL to apologize because you would have shown me that I am truly wrong by that act.
Re: I Am Disappointed In Most Muslims ,especially The Educated Ones by badboywizzy: 3:29pm On Jan 03
I had a female collegue in sec school back then who always blocked her ears anytime i mention the name "Jesus" but i can call mohammad without any bad thought in my mind.

In the northern states, you dare not eat in public when they are fasting if not, they'll leave their daga in your belly.

A woman dare not walk in front of them while they are praying.

The worst part of it is that an hausa driver can pack his passengers at the middle of no where just to go and pray under the hot sun, blocking the road for motorist to make use of the road until they are done praying.

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