engrchykae:
just imagine Mr fashola we use to look up to as a president in the making.the apc party provided a free madness platform for once moderate politicians.
Fashola and Rochas comes to mind.
From heros to zeros

Don't blame Fashola for all the stupidity, politics, tribalism, corruption and incompetence at the national level, hey succeeded in Lagos State because the house of assembly in Lagos did not deny him funds, they did not delay his budgets till the end of the year, they did not slash his budgets for stupid reasons like they do at the national level because they are all lagosians and they have the same positive attitude I terms of progress and development of their State, he did not have to deal with national politics, tribalism, bigotry and stupidity at the national level by useless politicians with different agendas from other parts of Nigerian.

ken2baba:
why would they employ clueless individuals that can hardly comprehend nor understand the situation of the country they live in.

Check those doing the hiring themselves na.

deomelllo:




Don't blame Fashola for all the stupidity, politics, tribalism, corruption and incompetence at the national level, hey succeeded in Lagos State because the house of assembly in Lagos did not deny him funds, they did not delay his budgets till the end of the year, they did not slash his budgets for stupid reasons like they do at the national level because they are all lagosians and they have the same positive attitude I terms of progress and development of their State, he did not have to deal with national politics, tribalism, bigotry and stupidity at the national level by useless politicians with different agendas from other parts of Nigerian.

its simply means that true federalism is the only answer to development in this part of the world

ivandragon:



lol...

is today slow readers day?


Adeosun made the statement in September which is what I obviously referred to...

so what's your headache?


all these jumping jacks that keep butting in discussions they have no idea of...

Your assertion was that Fashola was lying because Adeosun said money was released to him.

This is what you said
"the lying liar has forgotten that Adeosun said N90b was released to his ministry in September 2017."

You called him a liar when he didn't lie.

Who is the slow reader?

engrchykae:
its simply means that true federalism is the only answer to development in this part of the world

More like regionalism or total breakup.

AZeD1:

Your assertion was that Fashola was lying because Adeosun said money was released to him.

He or she was playing bait and switch with his own flawed facts and lame logic.

porka:


Check those doing the hiring themselves na.

Birds of a feather

We know the truth bro, no matter wetin dem come up with

usba:
[s][/s]

Another uninformed critique of Buhari seeking likes desperately from fellow ignoramus. So it is the executive that passes budget? Please educate yourself self first on basic matters of understanding the roles of the executive and legislative rather than disgracefully showcasing your ignorance.

The legislative don't just pass budget but make sure it is visible. Nigeria case is dat d executive just bring unrealistic paper called budget and d legislative will now be fishing out d loop holes in d budget making it look like d legislative are delaying in passing d budget.

This is IMO.

deomelllo:


Do they do procurement formalities, tax ID check and contract terms for old projects that have gone through the same process before the contracts were awarded in the first place?

Obviously, the man was talking about new capital projects, this is common sense, read, comprehend and use your brain sometimes before the embarrassing yourself on the internet.


And even if you are talking about no old capital projects in general, you are still wrong because Lagos Ibadan Express is a capital project and it is ongoing like many all over Nigeria.


Stop arguing like a baby.

Another totally aimless fellow from their stable is here with baseless logic.

So Mr Adult Procurement Officer, tell us how it is done in your ministry.

Old projects don't need any form of documentation before they are paid for, huh?

No procurement formalities are needed, no assessment of the job done, no performance benchmarking, nothing?

Once you hear procurement formalities, you just use "common sense" to assume it must be for new projects.

Also tell us...

What was the performance level of capital projects in 2016?

How many of the capital projects in 2016 budget were new?

Did the Lagos-Ibadan expressway project start with 2016 budget?

How many of the project in 2017 is a new capital project and not a continuation of the previous budget's votes?

The question is why did your ministry record zero performance in the capital projects in 2017.

Doesn't it occur to you that Fashola was beating about the bush with his procurement formalities, tax identity mumbo jumbo.

The senators he was addressing were not so carried away by empty rhetorics like you.

Their next question showed just that.

The report says Fashola was unable to answer.

A member of the committee , Senator Barnabas Gemade had asked why the ministry (Works ) had zero performance of capital projects in 2017.

The minister , however , blamed it on the late passage of the 2017 budget .

Fashola said , “ The 2017 budget was passed in June. The procurement law requires a procurement plan which took till September. In following this law, the first release was in August. Most of the projects were going through procurement formalities such as tax identity , contract terms , even construction companies went on holidays . So , there were so many things.”

Chairman of the committee , Senator Kabiru Gaya , then asked about the amount of projects that were not procured in 2017 since there was a rollover of projects from 2016.

Fashola was unable to respond to the question , stating that even the Director of Planning in the ministry could not give a definite answer. He , however , pleaded with the committee to bring a detailed report later .

ivandragon:



since you can't read, direct your question to the minister of finance who said she released N90b to Fashola from the 2017 budget...

you as op can't even understand what you Post.

Fashola said they can't make use of the money release on September because the budget was pass in June.

[s]

porka:



Another totally aimless fellow from their stable is here with baseless logic.

So Mr Adult Procurement Officer, tell us how it is done in your ministry.

Old projects don't need any form of documentation before they are paid for, huh?

No procurement formalities are needed, no assessment of the job done, no performance benchmarking, nothing?

Once you hear procurement formalities, you just use "common sense" to assume it must be for new projects.

Also tell us...

What was the performance level of capital projects in 2016?

How many of the capital projects in 2016 budget were new?

Did the Lagos-Ibadan expressway project start with 2016 budget?

How many of the project in 2017 is a new capital project and not a continuation of the previous budget's votes?

The question is why did your ministry record zero performance in the capital projects in 2017.

Doesn't it occur to you that Fashola was beating about the bush with his procurement formalities, tax identity mumbo jumbo.

The senators he was addressing were not so carried away by empty rhetorics like you.

Their next question showed just that.

The report says Fashola was unable to answer.

[/s]

Fashola said the country could not finance new projects every year due to its enormous nature.

The minister stated right there in the original article why there are no new projects, emphasis on the word NEW. All FG projects via works ministry are capital projects so you are still not making any sense.


Again, if you are still insisting that the minister was talking about old or existing capital projects, Lagos Ibadan express is a CAPITAL PROJECT and it is still ongoing..

Fashola inspects work on Kaduna-Abuja highway

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/223302-abuja-airport-closure-fashola-inspects-work-kaduna-abuja-highway.html

Feb 2017



Existing capital project in 2017 and we've seen pictures of his zonal tours all over the country inspecting ongoing capital projects so if you are not current, feel free to slap yourself.


And your ignorant rubbish about old projects going though procurement and certification process was just retaarded and ignorant because there is no such thing, maybe inside your house.


It is not by force to keep acting mentally ignorant and redundant.

Mcreloaded:
Did I read that it takes 24 months to construct 5km of road
Engineers in the house please how true is that

really unbelievable!!

critic9ja:

God bless you, educate the dullards up there please. Fashola is trying his best i am very sure, there are just too many conditions to satisfy which are beyond his powers. if only we can wake up and challenge those at fault.

nonsense!!

Fashola has turned out to be a failure.An abject and unqualified failure.Zero capital projects in 2017..what hapened to the money allocated and released for capital projects? Incompetence and corruption..bane this administration.

agaba77:
Fashola has turned out to be a failure.An abject and unqualified failure.Zero capital projects in 2017..what hapened to the money allocated and released for capital projects? Incompetence and corruption..bane this administration.

Another can't read and comprehend ipob...You people come a dime a dozen.

buhariguy:
you as op can't even understand what you Post.

Fashola said they can't make use of the money release on September because the budget was pass in June.

so no capital project was executed or paid for in 2017?


even existing capital projects were not paid for?


& if he couldn't utilise the funds, had it been returned to FG coffers?


you chaps are so dense...

AZeD1:

Your assertion was that Fashola was lying because Adeosun said money was released to him.

This is what you said
"the lying liar has forgotten that Adeosun said N90b was released to his ministry in September 2017."

You called him a liar when he didn't lie.

Who is the slow reader?

so no capital project was executed or paid for in 2017?


even existing capital projects were not paid for?


& if he couldn't utilise the funds, had it been returned to FG coffers?


the Senate asked about PERFORMANCE of the budget, even the rolled over ones.

& yes he is lying, for reasons best known to him. what was N90b used for? at least he should either be able to point to how/where the money was spent or show it has been returned.

most of you don't know what it means to be accountable...

deomelllo:



He said the budget was approved in the middle of 2017 and much have to be done by law before contracts get of the ground.

Budgets are not approved in January or at the beginning of the year, they are debated and and politics, tribalism and incompetence across the board delays budgets.


This was nothing to do with the finance minister, you should be asking the house if assembly because it is not fashola's job or the job of the finance minister to pass budgets and make funds available for use. If budgets are not passed till the end of the years, then fashola can not so anything and the finance minister can not release any money.

so no capital project was executed or paid for in 2017?


even existing capital projects were not paid for?


& if he couldn't utilise the funds, has it been returned to FG coffers?


these are issues of accountability. even the supposed rolled over allocations, he couldn't provide answers & you are here defending incompetence...

late budgets or not, the simple question is, if zero performance was recorded for works, then where is the N90b released for capital projects?

& if the N90b has been spent, how & where?


you are providing excuses now, tomorrow you will say you want government to be more accountable to the people...

agaba77:
Fashola has turned out to be a failure.An abject and unqualified failure.Zero capital projects in 2017..what hapened to the money allocated and released for capital projects? Incompetence and corruption..bane this administration.

that is the simple question. what happened to the N90b released for Works... new or old projects where is the money...

all the NAss requires is a breakdown. tell them how the capital budget for year 2017 was spent. the members said zero performance, so if the capital budget performance is zero, what was the money given to Fashola used for? simple.


but trust dumb folks to turn it into tribal slurs & shifting blame on the NAss as if this is the first time budgets have been approved later than normal...

agaba77:
Fashola has turned out to be a failure.An abject and unqualified failure.Zero capital projects in 2017..what hapened to the money allocated and released for capital projects? Incompetence and corruption..bane this administration.

that is the simple question. what happened to the N90b released for Works... new or old projects where is the money...

all the NAss requires is a breakdown. tell them how the capital budget for year 2017 was spent. the members said zero performance, so if the capital budget performance is zero, what was the money given to Fashola used for? simple.


but trust dumb folks to throw in tribal slurs & shifting blame on the NAss as if this is the first time budgets have been approved later than normal...

[s]

ivandragon:


so no capital project was executed or paid for in 2017?


even existing capital projects were not paid for?


& if he couldn't utilise the funds, has it been returned to FG coffers?


these are issues of accountability. even the supposed rolled over allocations, he couldn't provide answers & you are here defending incompetence...

late budgets or not, the simple question is, if zero performance was recorded for works, then where is the N90b released for capital projects?

& if the N90b has been spent, how & where?


you are providing excuses now, tomorrow you will say you want government to be more accountable to the people...

[/s]




1. No new capital projects started in 2017 based on the reasons the minister sited.

2. Ongoing capital projects have already been paid for, so there's no reason to turn around and pay all over again in. Or do you actually think the FG pay contractors for the same work done every year because the projects are ongoing into the next year?

19.02.2017

Babatunde Fashola, the Minister of Power, Works and Housing, has said scarcity of fund is not the major challenge to the completion of ongoing Federal Government’s road projects.
Fashola spoke to reporters on Saturday in Port Harcourt after an inspection tour of ongoing road projects in the South-South zone.

“There is no problem of paucity of fund on this road again; this road is now a function of man hours.

“If you have all the money needed to construct this road, you would not finish it today.

“So let us understand that these roads are built long and wide, and so will take years to be completed because roads are connecting several states.

“As we are building, it will get better but funding is not going to be a problem on this road again because we make sure that the contractor are paid,” he said.



http://www.pulse.ng/news/local/fashola-scarcity-of-funds-not-major-challenge-to-projects-completion-minister-id6246725.html

3. That was back in feb 2017, meaning the project was paid for already before 2017 so why pay again in 2017


4. They don't have to pay for any project in 2017 because they've been paid for with 2016 budget and nothing was started in 2017 because the budget was approved almost at the end of 2017.



Your reason and process facts like a 2-year-old and you are trying too hard to prove that you are really a 2-year-old kid.

deomelllo:
[s][/s]




1. No new capital projects started in 2017 based on the reasons the minister sited.

2. Ongoing capital projects have already been paid for, so there's no reason to turn around and pay all over again in. Or do you actually think the FG pay contractors for the same work done every year because the projects are ongoing into the next year?




3. That was back in feb 2017, meaning the project was paid for already before 2017 so why pay again in 2017


4. They don't have to pay for any project in 2017 because they've been paid for with 2016 budget and nothing was started in 2017 because the budget was approved almost at the end of 2017.



Your reason and process facts like a 2-year-old and you are trying too hard to prove that you are really a 2-year-old kid.

lol...


you are clutching at straws...


what was the N90b minister of finance said was released used for?

simple question, you are running round in circles. are you Fashola's sidekick?


can you tell us what N90b was spent on or was it returned to government coffers or is it warehoused somewhere?


all you chaps supporting nonsense are doing so at the expense of your thinking faculties. people are asking where the money went to, you are ranting about 2016 funded projects, same projects the Fashola could not even defend.


by the way, crossing other people's comments shows how closed minded you are, existing in your unique world of senseless prattle...

oya, cross out these comments to prove that your brain cannot accommodate more than 1 line of reasoning at a time...

ivandragon:



so no capital project was executed or paid for in 2017?


even existing capital projects were not paid for?


& if he couldn't utilise the funds, had it been returned to FG coffers?


you chaps are so dense...

did fashola tell you any money is missing

ivandragon:



so no capital project was executed or paid for in 2017?


even existing capital projects were not paid for?


& if he couldn't utilise the funds, had it been returned to FG coffers?


the Senate asked about PERFORMANCE of the budget, even the rolled over ones.

& yes he is lying, for reasons best known to him. what was N90b used for? at least he should either be able to point to how/where the money was spent or show it has been returned.

most of you don't know what it means to be accountable...

Lol at the bold part.

You really have no idea how government works.

AZeD1:

Lol at the bold part.

You really have no idea how government works.

You clearly don't or else you won't be defending nonsense.

Keballl:


You clearly don't or else you won't be defending nonsense.

Yeah , the 90b was paid to Fashola's personal account, so he has to return it.

AZeD1:

Yeah , the 90b was paid to Fashola's personal account, so he has to return it.

Off course, Since Fashola "doesn't sign cheques" he can never be accountable for budgetary allocations under his portfolio.

The nonsense we see on nairaland daily.

Keballl:


Off course, Since Fashola "doesn't sign cheques" he can never be accountable for budgetary allocations under his portfolio.

The nonsense we see on nairaland daily.

Has the 2018 budget being signed?

AZeD1:

Has the 2018 budget being signed?

A very stupid question.

oh no work was excuted but money was appropriated. ..it should be returned...simple or has it been diverted?

Keballl:


A very stupid question.

Because you are your friend have no clue as to how Government works.
Let me help you out,

Since the 2018 budget hasn't been signed, Nigeria is still officially in the 2017 budget cycle.
Money released for a particular year would stay with the Ministry/MDA till the end of the budget cycle before it can be returned or in most times be rolled over.

AZeD1:

Because you are your friend have no clue as to how Government works.
Let me help you out,

Since the 2018 budget hasn't been signed, Nigeria is still officially in the 2017 budget cycle.
Money released for a particular year would stay with the Ministry/MDA till the end of the budget cycle before it can be returned or in most times be rolled over.

You know absolutely nothing.. At the end of every year all unused funds are mopped up. One of the reasons why MDA Perm. Secs. /Directors before the advent of TSA were balling real hard spending every budgetary allocations in their reach to avoid "waste" according to them.

Go and sit down boy and stop defending nonsense.